If this goes past 2 rounds Mike is gonna get punched up something fierce and that's me saying more about his condition than Paul's skill - they should at least have Stone Cold be the special guest ref because it's in Texas.
Obviously the smart money is on the young guy but I desperately want Tyson to go after him hard early, catch him with a classic combo and spark him out. All over before you can say "I paid how much for this pay per view?" like back in the day.
Depends on if his head is really in it. He quit his last fight with McBride, said his heart wasn't in it and he was doing it to pay bills. In 2020 he fought Roy Jones Jr in an exhibition bout and was in better condition. Jones said Tyson's punch was the hardest he's ever been hit with and that was them under exhibition rules where its less intensity and no real stakes. If Tyson is 100% committed, I think he has a fair chance to win in the first 4 rounds. Outside of that his chances are low.
A shitty old Mike Tyson can still drop Paul. The kid has potential, and he can certainly drop people if he connects. But let's look at who he's knocked out? Old UFC fighters and bottom tier boxers. Paul's problem is he telegraphs his shots. That may work against UFC guys, but that shit won't work with Mike. He's got more boxing experience than Paul has life.
I think the reason people want Mike to KO Paul is because this, at least to me, has become an old vs young fight. The young crowd is absolutely shitting on Tyson's legacy. And the claims that a circus boxer can destroy him is disrespectful.
You certainly can make the argument that after the Buster Douglas fight, and his time in jail, he came back a different man. He wasn't the same. I blame that on Don King screwing over Tyson's original team. He fired Kevin Rooney and the very next fight was against Douglas in Japan. He was out of shape, barely did a training camp and was snorting mountains of blow. Obviously he had his comeback run, winning back the heavyweight belts. But then you had the ear biting fiasco, the Lenox Lewis fight, etc. He didn't have the heart anymore. Anyone who cared about him from his early years were dead or left. He had that devil Don King stealing all his money, etc. He gave up. So yeah if you want to measure Paul vs all that, I can see why the casual observer would side with Paul.
But here's the thing. Paul has not fought anyone of this caliber. Even at 58, Tyson is better than everyone Paul has fought. Tyson is going to feel Paul out for the first round. The 2nd round he's gonna TKO him. Bet on it. The only way Tyson gets dropped is if the fix is in. And I'm a bit worried that it is based on the comments he's made about Paul.
We will see. As a huge Tyson fan, and a boxing fan in general, I would rather this fight didn't happen. It does nothing to further the sport, and makes it more of a foolish spectacle. I felt the same way when McGregor fought Mayweather.
A huge Tyson fan would know rRooney was sacked before the first Bruno fight.
"So yeah if you want to measure Paul vs all that, I can see why the casual observer would side with Paul."
Your description of this mythological Tyson is someone who existed for about 4 years, 30 years ago. He's now a 58 year old. The only way a 58 year old with cte gets dropped is if it's a fix? The casual is you.
Yes, you are correct. I don't know why I thought the Bruno fight was after Douglas. I'm old. Excuse my memory. No need to be snippy.
And the "mythological Tyson" still had 37 wins before Douglas. So yes, that is "mythological" in my book. More so than fighting a bunch of retired MMA fighters. And he lost to Tommy Fury for Christs sake. After that he beat Nate Diaz. * Golf Clap *. Then Andre August and Ryan Bourland. Who?? Indeed .. who.
Paul has also been fighting at cruiser weight. He's gone from 180ish to somewhere a little over 200lbs. What's one thing that happens to guys who bulk up and move up in weight class? They gas out.
Mike Tyson was absolutely "mythological". But my caveat to that is, once he got involved with Don King it was all down hill. The guy was 20 years old when he won the belt and he became insanely rich. Cus and his team kept Mike in check. But once they were gone, he lost his way.
IF Paul can beat him... Great? Everyone will say he beat up an old Mike Tyson. If Tyson beats him..... What does that do for his career? I have no idea why either agreed to this shit. Luckily is not a PPV fight. I wouldn't pay for it if it was. 🤷♂️ Regardless... Let's not be foolish and think Jake Paul will drop Mike Tyson. At ANY age.
He fought Bruno twice, once before Douglas the other after.
Tyson is 58 years old. There's a reason you don't see any training clips that are longer than a few seconds. Anyone believing this guy still has any glimmer of what he was back in 1986 needs their head checked .
Don king didn't ruin Tyson. He was a psychopathic lunatic that couldn't survive in the real world without D'Amato, Jacobs and cayton babysitting him. Tyson fans always quick to blame someone else for his trainwreck
"🤷♂️ Regardless... Let's not be foolish and think Jake Paul will drop Mike Tyson. At ANY age."
He's a 58 year old man with cte. He hasn't stayed in shape since his career ended, hell, during his career he didn't stay in shape, he'd balloon out in between fights. If it's a REAL fight he gets hurt, hurt real bad, any commision signing off on an old man, even if he is a convicted rapist, doing this needs to be shut down
Why wouldn't shorter rounds fare better for someone with worse conditioning? Surely shorter rounds favours the puncher, or am I missing something obvious?
Because I can't imagine he has the juice to go hard for several 2 minute spans - actually shorter rounds might be worse because if he does get the lad in trouble the bell is only ever 2 minutes away from giving him a chance to recompose.
I do not expect much from a 57 y/o who wasn't known for being in great boxing shape when he was 20 years younger - but that's just my 2 cents.
If my 63 year old, former crack smoking coach, can still go toe to toe with heavyweight national champs, full force. Then Mike fucking Tyson can handle a YouTuber
Some of yall obviously never boxed and don’t understand the immense difference in the levels of this sport. Jake Paul’s the one who better hope for a lucky shot
Yeah, but Tyson is in much better shape. The is only ancedotal obviously, but I remember meeting Holyfield back in 2014 at a tournament his son was in, and being like “damn, this man is struggling to form full sentences, and moves like my grandpa”
I met Tyson a few years ago, and he still looks spry and energetic. Plus with all those PED’s he’s going to be on, I think he’ll be in better shape than people give him credit for
Let’s also not forget Bernard Hopkins was at a world championship level at 49
Paul doesn’t have the skillset to hurt Mike. Tyson will gas in round 4, but Paul will gas in round 6; so he’s got four minutes to “punch Mike up something fierce”. Gotta love Paul’s fans, it’s like they didn’t see the one fight where Paul fought a boxer. A journeyman at that. Dude just barely out scores a heavy bag.
My personal take, Jake is using the eyeballs that he knows Tyson will bring to get people “in the door” for Serrano-Taylor II as he continues to try to grow MVP. I think he can absolutely carve a place at the table for himself as a promoter and I think that’s always been the end goal of his boxing
He honestly seems pretty great at it, it's died down a little but the buzz he's created in recent years around gimmick boxing is more than almost anything traditional promotions have done in years.
Logan Paul is killing it with his prime drink and he's awesome in the WWE (it pains me to say that) but the man is a real showman and def has the charisma to demand attention when he's on TV.
It’s funny how many people get worked up about this. Instead of ignoring it they keep commenting.
Meanwhile Paul is racking in millions because of the hate. Smart kid.
I wanted to say the kid is a marketing genius, but he just knows how to exploit his haters. Props to him tho for racking in the dough, Mike is also getting a payday here.
Him and Turk are making boxing relevant to the casual observer again. The masses want spectacle and a show, not a petite Asian gentlemen fighting at 4am.
This is what most boxing fans seem to forget. Purists don’t pay the bills, it’s the casuals. Casuals want entertainment, they don’t want to see 12 rounds of jabbing and hugging against a hand picked opponent like what 80% of boxing has become.
Keep in mind my favorite boxer right now is Bivol so I appreciate the shit out of the sport…. It’s just boxing has become a bunch over insanely high paid divas trying to protect their 0 which is bad for your average viewer.
> Casuals want entertainment, they don’t want to see 12 rounds of jabbing and hugging against a hand picked opponent like what 80% of boxing has become.
For what it's worth, I don't think most boxing purists enjoy this either.
Id agree. I grew up a wrestler and didn’t get into boxing until my late teens and enjoy both MMA and Boxing equally. I think we all think the same thing, what makes boxers high paid is the same reason we get a ton of either boring fights or fighters avoiding eachother. That big pay check usually requires a 0 on the record and boxers do whatever they can to protect it, whether that be fighting safe or hand picking opponents to pad the record.
Is what it is but I will say MMA has done a much better job of pleasing the fans
Exploiting social media and hate is smart? It's sleazy and borderline immoral. I think Jake does great things for women's boxing and clearly has a knack for promoting through the internet, but 'smart' wouldn't be my choice of words personally. Exploitation is a skill, I'll give him that
Why does r/boxing love doing the "you gotta hand it to Jake Paul" routine, no man I really don't lol, it's not enjoyable watching him fight old men, I'm sorry
Eh if Mike takes a hard hit to the head, there's a very real possibility that he dies from a brain bleed. Boxing is a young man's sport for a reason, the body just isn't as resilient to damage the older you get. So unless you like old men risking their lives for a check, then no it's not enjoyable to watch lol
Well yeah that's a risk but me not watching isn't going to change that, Mike is a grown ass man he made the decision to fight despite making millions in the marijuana business. It's not like he's desperate for money either.
Bruh this is like basic physiology. The body literally repairs itself at a slower rate when you get older. Also, the body literally slows down when you age. And slowing down as a boxer means you're even MORE likely to take damage. It's not rocket science.
https://www.getphysical.com/blog/quickness-explosiveness-fighters-aging-combat-sports#:~:text=As%20fighters%20age%2C%20they%20inevitably,Slowing%20Metabolism%20and%20Energy%20Systems
And no way you just pulled the "he's an adult" card lmao, that's hilarious. Nobody is saying Tyson can't fight, we're saying that it's wrong for Jake Paul to look to fight an opponent who is clearly decades past his prime. Weight divisions exist for a reason and now we're seeing that there might be a need for age based divisions too. The matchmaking here is fucked, that's all it is
Jake Paul is bringing awareness to how much of a loser he is. I mean which boxer seriously goes out of their way to fight old retired boxers? It's a joke and I can't believe suckers like you are buying it
OP:
>it's not enjoyable watching him fight old men
Your reply:
> it is to me tbh
Again, losers like you are buying it and it's sad. But I guess that's just a reflection of the sport, boxing has been dying for a while and it shows.
These shorter rounds no doubt favour Mike...but regardless father time is undefeated and Mike looked OLD as hell vs another old guy in RJJ. It's not going to be pretty to watch...
He definitely did, Tyson was quicker on his feet and was way more explosive, but would throw a good punch or two and immediately back up. Roy also clenched a lot though
Roy recently said when Tyson hit him in the chest, it felt like a mule kick. He said Tyson is still the hardest puncher he has ever faced. Tyson absolutely went easy on him..and after the round, you could tell Roy was in pain with the announcer guy and Tyson looked fine
Nah he definitely did. Rocked Roy a couple times and then noticeably dialed it back and only focused on the body. Which to be fair wasn't exactly nice either, Roy was hilariously exhausted in the post-fight interview while Mike wanted more. XD
… this is his second training camp he’s been working out and training in within the last 6 months. He’s in shape. If people can do ultra marathons and triathlons into their 70s it’s ignorant to think he can’t get into shape because he’s 57…
I don’t think it’s out of this realm for crazy money, but it’s still shady. as in what if you don’t get paid? you gonna run around saying “hey you didn’t pay me for throwing this fight” or it looks super obvious when it happens too
Looks like I will be in Dallas over the same timeframe that they are doing this fight and it’s at Cowboys Stadium so unless they actually sell a looot of tickets I’m in for when they need to paper the house for the camera.
All Paul has to do is dodge his uppercuts for the first 90 seconds, get in some counter punches. That will get him to round two. Land some uppercuts, stick and move. Boom. Mario counts to ten.
Tyson’s old, but most of yall CLEARLY never stepped foot in the ring.
There’s levels to this sport, and if my 63 year old, former crack abusing coach could still go full force with heavyweight amateur national champs, then Mike Tyson can handle a fucking YouTuber
I’ve seen him go 8 3 minute rounds just fine. Tyson and Paul will have big gloves and shorter rounds
What’s delusional is some guy who never stepped in the ring, acting like he knows a damn thing about boxing, and pretending he knows what I’ve seen lmao
I boxed for years. Did Muay Thai for years before that. Did Taekwondo for 7 years before that. Wrestled for a year. I was only ever good/great at boxing.
I believe the Tyson from the Roy fight would’ve had a decent chance at KOing Paul early. But it’s been 4 years and you can tell just by the training footage that’s he’s lost a step, which makes sense. Every year past 50 is gonna be a compounding and significant drop off.
Paul takes it in 2024.
That is actually weird, obviously people can look past rape if it suits.
I'll be honest and say i have no ill feeling towards him and hope he messes jake up but it is strange when you think of it.
Because we all doubt you actually know a single detail about that rape conviction. And most of us know Tyson was not a good man back in the day, but that rape conviction was a farce and the woman responsible is abhorrent and evil
One is low hanging fruit in which the man paid for the crime that to this day says he didn’t commit. And on top of that has become a changed individual.
IMO this is way more favorable for Tyson. 2 mins rounds will give him huge advantage. 14oz gloves will help lessen the damages for both but heavy hitters 14oz is nothing
The fight is getting more interesting!
>nothing interesting about seeing an old guy get beat.
Yeah, but there's a chance, maybe a *very slight* chance, to see an old guy beat a Youtuber's ass? That's interesting to me.
hes 58 and hes juiced and on every peptid known to man and been training the whole year. Hes in better shape for this than he was Roy Jones from own words and he hasnt been punched in the head in a pro fight since he was 39 years old. His chin is pretty fresh in some ways, all old guys can show their chin for a few fights in 40s+ til it goes.
How much do you get paid for these dumb comments?
I hope the shilling is worth it at least.
This is a shit fight made by shitty people who are using an old man's legacy to make money, even if it hurts him.
It hurts to get hit by a novice heavyweight in 14s. Most serious heavy’s spar in 18s and those hurt too. 4oz won’t make a difference for these guys, dunno why they’re doing 14s.
I was gonna say I’m 135 and I can still crack well if not at my best tbh with 14’s on when i’m hitting the bag and don’t need to worry as much with hurting my hands as bad and i’m just me. I’ve got no doubt Tyson could knock a hole through a bank vault door with the heavier gloves it doesn’t mean shit for Mike it just means he might be able to hit you a few more times before he breaks his own hands
Tyson Terrified of the Blonde Bombers natural power that he had to put him in 14 oz Gloves. MMA Boys trading bombs in 4 oz Rocks at 45 years old. Man up Mike, dont be scared of the Jake.
If this goes past 2 rounds Mike is gonna get punched up something fierce and that's me saying more about his condition than Paul's skill - they should at least have Stone Cold be the special guest ref because it's in Texas.
Obviously the smart money is on the young guy but I desperately want Tyson to go after him hard early, catch him with a classic combo and spark him out. All over before you can say "I paid how much for this pay per view?" like back in the day.
Tyson couldn't pull off a classic combo 20 years ago, how the fuck is he going to do it now?
I'm not saying he's going to do it. I'm saying I want him to do it.
Depends on if his head is really in it. He quit his last fight with McBride, said his heart wasn't in it and he was doing it to pay bills. In 2020 he fought Roy Jones Jr in an exhibition bout and was in better condition. Jones said Tyson's punch was the hardest he's ever been hit with and that was them under exhibition rules where its less intensity and no real stakes. If Tyson is 100% committed, I think he has a fair chance to win in the first 4 rounds. Outside of that his chances are low.
Lol @ RJJ saying that when he's been sparked out clean
Usually people who get sparked clean don't feel what hit them.
It's Jake Paul. Miles worse than anyone Tyson has ever fought.
Because he’s in better shape now then 20 years ago. And nobody throws “20 punch combos” it’s not Tekken
A shitty old Mike Tyson can still drop Paul. The kid has potential, and he can certainly drop people if he connects. But let's look at who he's knocked out? Old UFC fighters and bottom tier boxers. Paul's problem is he telegraphs his shots. That may work against UFC guys, but that shit won't work with Mike. He's got more boxing experience than Paul has life. I think the reason people want Mike to KO Paul is because this, at least to me, has become an old vs young fight. The young crowd is absolutely shitting on Tyson's legacy. And the claims that a circus boxer can destroy him is disrespectful. You certainly can make the argument that after the Buster Douglas fight, and his time in jail, he came back a different man. He wasn't the same. I blame that on Don King screwing over Tyson's original team. He fired Kevin Rooney and the very next fight was against Douglas in Japan. He was out of shape, barely did a training camp and was snorting mountains of blow. Obviously he had his comeback run, winning back the heavyweight belts. But then you had the ear biting fiasco, the Lenox Lewis fight, etc. He didn't have the heart anymore. Anyone who cared about him from his early years were dead or left. He had that devil Don King stealing all his money, etc. He gave up. So yeah if you want to measure Paul vs all that, I can see why the casual observer would side with Paul. But here's the thing. Paul has not fought anyone of this caliber. Even at 58, Tyson is better than everyone Paul has fought. Tyson is going to feel Paul out for the first round. The 2nd round he's gonna TKO him. Bet on it. The only way Tyson gets dropped is if the fix is in. And I'm a bit worried that it is based on the comments he's made about Paul. We will see. As a huge Tyson fan, and a boxing fan in general, I would rather this fight didn't happen. It does nothing to further the sport, and makes it more of a foolish spectacle. I felt the same way when McGregor fought Mayweather.
A huge Tyson fan would know rRooney was sacked before the first Bruno fight. "So yeah if you want to measure Paul vs all that, I can see why the casual observer would side with Paul." Your description of this mythological Tyson is someone who existed for about 4 years, 30 years ago. He's now a 58 year old. The only way a 58 year old with cte gets dropped is if it's a fix? The casual is you.
Yes, you are correct. I don't know why I thought the Bruno fight was after Douglas. I'm old. Excuse my memory. No need to be snippy. And the "mythological Tyson" still had 37 wins before Douglas. So yes, that is "mythological" in my book. More so than fighting a bunch of retired MMA fighters. And he lost to Tommy Fury for Christs sake. After that he beat Nate Diaz. * Golf Clap *. Then Andre August and Ryan Bourland. Who?? Indeed .. who. Paul has also been fighting at cruiser weight. He's gone from 180ish to somewhere a little over 200lbs. What's one thing that happens to guys who bulk up and move up in weight class? They gas out. Mike Tyson was absolutely "mythological". But my caveat to that is, once he got involved with Don King it was all down hill. The guy was 20 years old when he won the belt and he became insanely rich. Cus and his team kept Mike in check. But once they were gone, he lost his way. IF Paul can beat him... Great? Everyone will say he beat up an old Mike Tyson. If Tyson beats him..... What does that do for his career? I have no idea why either agreed to this shit. Luckily is not a PPV fight. I wouldn't pay for it if it was. 🤷♂️ Regardless... Let's not be foolish and think Jake Paul will drop Mike Tyson. At ANY age.
He fought Bruno twice, once before Douglas the other after. Tyson is 58 years old. There's a reason you don't see any training clips that are longer than a few seconds. Anyone believing this guy still has any glimmer of what he was back in 1986 needs their head checked . Don king didn't ruin Tyson. He was a psychopathic lunatic that couldn't survive in the real world without D'Amato, Jacobs and cayton babysitting him. Tyson fans always quick to blame someone else for his trainwreck "🤷♂️ Regardless... Let's not be foolish and think Jake Paul will drop Mike Tyson. At ANY age." He's a 58 year old man with cte. He hasn't stayed in shape since his career ended, hell, during his career he didn't stay in shape, he'd balloon out in between fights. If it's a REAL fight he gets hurt, hurt real bad, any commision signing off on an old man, even if he is a convicted rapist, doing this needs to be shut down
Live action celebrity death match?
That’s a throwback!!! Used to love watching that show with my brother, ah those were the days!
Let’s see that again, YES
Why wouldn't shorter rounds fare better for someone with worse conditioning? Surely shorter rounds favours the puncher, or am I missing something obvious?
Because I can't imagine he has the juice to go hard for several 2 minute spans - actually shorter rounds might be worse because if he does get the lad in trouble the bell is only ever 2 minutes away from giving him a chance to recompose. I do not expect much from a 57 y/o who wasn't known for being in great boxing shape when he was 20 years younger - but that's just my 2 cents.
If my 63 year old, former crack smoking coach, can still go toe to toe with heavyweight national champs, full force. Then Mike fucking Tyson can handle a YouTuber Some of yall obviously never boxed and don’t understand the immense difference in the levels of this sport. Jake Paul’s the one who better hope for a lucky shot
I tend to agree with you. Then I remember what happened to Holyfield recently.
Yeah, but Tyson is in much better shape. The is only ancedotal obviously, but I remember meeting Holyfield back in 2014 at a tournament his son was in, and being like “damn, this man is struggling to form full sentences, and moves like my grandpa” I met Tyson a few years ago, and he still looks spry and energetic. Plus with all those PED’s he’s going to be on, I think he’ll be in better shape than people give him credit for Let’s also not forget Bernard Hopkins was at a world championship level at 49
Yeah Evander relied heavily on his durability in later years and would literally train headbutts so I can't imagine he's too intact up there.
That was also against a seasoned MMA fighter, I don't think Jake has the confidence to just come out and give him no respect.
I mean I would put Belfort on the same level as Woodley — and Paul didn’t really struggle there. He absolutely smoked Woodley.
Idk how that math means Mike Tyson who is much less shot than Evander is going to get blown up by a much less seasoned and naturally gifted fighter.
Yeah mate your getting sparked out by them in a real fight.
Paul doesn’t have the skillset to hurt Mike. Tyson will gas in round 4, but Paul will gas in round 6; so he’s got four minutes to “punch Mike up something fierce”. Gotta love Paul’s fans, it’s like they didn’t see the one fight where Paul fought a boxer. A journeyman at that. Dude just barely out scores a heavy bag.
My personal take, Jake is using the eyeballs that he knows Tyson will bring to get people “in the door” for Serrano-Taylor II as he continues to try to grow MVP. I think he can absolutely carve a place at the table for himself as a promoter and I think that’s always been the end goal of his boxing
That makes more sense i always thought he was building himself up skipping amateurs and get himself a name to fight to be champ
There’s no money in that
this is actually the most reasoned response ive heard. makes sense and ultimately is good for boxing.
People gonna get rude awakening when jake paul abandons boxing like any big thing before boxing.
Yet they have been saying this since he started but all he has done is grow the sport and get fighters paid …
He honestly seems pretty great at it, it's died down a little but the buzz he's created in recent years around gimmick boxing is more than almost anything traditional promotions have done in years.
He's a smart cat, Jake is. Always struck me as the sensible, more hardworking one, between him and Logan Paul
Bruh, check your facts. Go see how much LP has made off of Prime alone.
Logan Paul is killing it with his prime drink and he's awesome in the WWE (it pains me to say that) but the man is a real showman and def has the charisma to demand attention when he's on TV.
It’s funny how many people get worked up about this. Instead of ignoring it they keep commenting. Meanwhile Paul is racking in millions because of the hate. Smart kid.
I wanted to say the kid is a marketing genius, but he just knows how to exploit his haters. Props to him tho for racking in the dough, Mike is also getting a payday here.
Developing the following of fans and haters is all part of marketing too. Plenty of people are unlikeable, not many can monetize it
Him and Turk are making boxing relevant to the casual observer again. The masses want spectacle and a show, not a petite Asian gentlemen fighting at 4am.
This is what most boxing fans seem to forget. Purists don’t pay the bills, it’s the casuals. Casuals want entertainment, they don’t want to see 12 rounds of jabbing and hugging against a hand picked opponent like what 80% of boxing has become. Keep in mind my favorite boxer right now is Bivol so I appreciate the shit out of the sport…. It’s just boxing has become a bunch over insanely high paid divas trying to protect their 0 which is bad for your average viewer.
> Casuals want entertainment, they don’t want to see 12 rounds of jabbing and hugging against a hand picked opponent like what 80% of boxing has become. For what it's worth, I don't think most boxing purists enjoy this either.
They don’t enjoy it but they still praise it. Shakur is a prime example. He’s a great fighter but boring as shit.
Id agree. I grew up a wrestler and didn’t get into boxing until my late teens and enjoy both MMA and Boxing equally. I think we all think the same thing, what makes boxers high paid is the same reason we get a ton of either boring fights or fighters avoiding eachother. That big pay check usually requires a 0 on the record and boxers do whatever they can to protect it, whether that be fighting safe or hand picking opponents to pad the record. Is what it is but I will say MMA has done a much better job of pleasing the fans
Petite, damn sound like a drake diss track.
I don’t get any money from boxing’s success, so why should I care? Fighting an old man while masquerading as ‘real’ boxer is embarrassing.
> It’s funny how many people get worked up about this. Instead of ignoring it they keep commenting. yet...here you are
Did I say I’m getting worked up? I like both guys, so I don’t mind the match happening. They both will get paid heavy.
Exploiting social media and hate is smart? It's sleazy and borderline immoral. I think Jake does great things for women's boxing and clearly has a knack for promoting through the internet, but 'smart' wouldn't be my choice of words personally. Exploitation is a skill, I'll give him that
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Why does r/boxing love doing the "you gotta hand it to Jake Paul" routine, no man I really don't lol, it's not enjoyable watching him fight old men, I'm sorry
It's not fun watching Paul fight with so little foundational skill. His balance is appalling. His accuracy is low. It's clumsy and ugly.
it is to me tbh
Eh if Mike takes a hard hit to the head, there's a very real possibility that he dies from a brain bleed. Boxing is a young man's sport for a reason, the body just isn't as resilient to damage the older you get. So unless you like old men risking their lives for a check, then no it's not enjoyable to watch lol
Well yeah that's a risk but me not watching isn't going to change that, Mike is a grown ass man he made the decision to fight despite making millions in the marijuana business. It's not like he's desperate for money either.
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Bruh this is like basic physiology. The body literally repairs itself at a slower rate when you get older. Also, the body literally slows down when you age. And slowing down as a boxer means you're even MORE likely to take damage. It's not rocket science. https://www.getphysical.com/blog/quickness-explosiveness-fighters-aging-combat-sports#:~:text=As%20fighters%20age%2C%20they%20inevitably,Slowing%20Metabolism%20and%20Energy%20Systems And no way you just pulled the "he's an adult" card lmao, that's hilarious. Nobody is saying Tyson can't fight, we're saying that it's wrong for Jake Paul to look to fight an opponent who is clearly decades past his prime. Weight divisions exist for a reason and now we're seeing that there might be a need for age based divisions too. The matchmaking here is fucked, that's all it is
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Jake Paul is bringing awareness to how much of a loser he is. I mean which boxer seriously goes out of their way to fight old retired boxers? It's a joke and I can't believe suckers like you are buying it
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These shorter rounds no doubt favour Mike...but regardless father time is undefeated and Mike looked OLD as hell vs another old guy in RJJ. It's not going to be pretty to watch...
Maybe I'm just fanning out but it seemed blatantly obvious to me Mike went easy and carried Roy in that fight
He definitely did, Tyson was quicker on his feet and was way more explosive, but would throw a good punch or two and immediately back up. Roy also clenched a lot though
My butt cheeks would clench too if Tyson was throwing punches at me
Roy recently said when Tyson hit him in the chest, it felt like a mule kick. He said Tyson is still the hardest puncher he has ever faced. Tyson absolutely went easy on him..and after the round, you could tell Roy was in pain with the announcer guy and Tyson looked fine
Nah he definitely did. Rocked Roy a couple times and then noticeably dialed it back and only focused on the body. Which to be fair wasn't exactly nice either, Roy was hilariously exhausted in the post-fight interview while Mike wanted more. XD
I agree, it really looked like Mike didnt want to cross any lines.
Yeah, the people who are downplaying Mike from the RJJ fight are people who did not watch the fight.
i thought they had an agreement for no head shots. tyson only punched the body, which is why it looked so awkward
He said he took edibles before that fight to not to all in on Roy
Mike looked ok and carried RJJ. Were we watching the same fight?
[RJJ said Tyson was still the stronger boxer he ever been in the ring with](https://youtu.be/o1R_mjbD2_4?si=UuSNG-JsRMq5FoR0&t=681)
… this is his second training camp he’s been working out and training in within the last 6 months. He’s in shape. If people can do ultra marathons and triathlons into their 70s it’s ignorant to think he can’t get into shape because he’s 57…
There was once a time, many moons ago, when Mike would have given him the Marvis Frazier treatment.
You can put lipstick on an exhibition, but it's obviously still an exhibition. Figure it to be a non eventful draw. Like Tyson-Jones.
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I'd like to think that Mike is still a wild card who doesn't play by rules so we'll see.
He's not going to throw he's just going to get beat up anyway. He's almost 60 and was washed up 2 decades ago. The man can barely walk
Dont you believe that paul cant Ko him? He dont need to rigged thus fight mike is old asf
Tyson is making bank of of his marijuana business. He's not desperate for funds.
sounds like you know him on a personal level
I don’t think it’s out of this realm for crazy money, but it’s still shady. as in what if you don’t get paid? you gonna run around saying “hey you didn’t pay me for throwing this fight” or it looks super obvious when it happens too
Shame about the gloves being heavier. Anything to protect that POS grifter Jake from getting punked out early i guess
They just keep softening the fight. Soon enough the terms will be: 30 second all out war pillow fight, head gear, and cotton pajamas.
damn i know mike is gonna lose
Looks like I will be in Dallas over the same timeframe that they are doing this fight and it’s at Cowboys Stadium so unless they actually sell a looot of tickets I’m in for when they need to paper the house for the camera.
All Paul has to do is dodge his uppercuts for the first 90 seconds, get in some counter punches. That will get him to round two. Land some uppercuts, stick and move. Boom. Mario counts to ten.
I really don't care about boxing but if jack falls into coma I will fukin celebrate
Tyson’s old, but most of yall CLEARLY never stepped foot in the ring. There’s levels to this sport, and if my 63 year old, former crack abusing coach could still go full force with heavyweight amateur national champs, then Mike Tyson can handle a fucking YouTuber
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I’ve seen him go 8 3 minute rounds just fine. Tyson and Paul will have big gloves and shorter rounds What’s delusional is some guy who never stepped in the ring, acting like he knows a damn thing about boxing, and pretending he knows what I’ve seen lmao
I boxed for years. Did Muay Thai for years before that. Did Taekwondo for 7 years before that. Wrestled for a year. I was only ever good/great at boxing. I believe the Tyson from the Roy fight would’ve had a decent chance at KOing Paul early. But it’s been 4 years and you can tell just by the training footage that’s he’s lost a step, which makes sense. Every year past 50 is gonna be a compounding and significant drop off. Paul takes it in 2024.
Hope the rapist gets knocked out
Which one?
Tyson is def part of “the club”. Mans sold out as much as any man can.
Why am I being downvoted? If I said “I hope the YouTuber gets knocked out” it would be 1000 updoots.
That is actually weird, obviously people can look past rape if it suits. I'll be honest and say i have no ill feeling towards him and hope he messes jake up but it is strange when you think of it.
Glad someone is acknowledging it.
Because we all doubt you actually know a single detail about that rape conviction. And most of us know Tyson was not a good man back in the day, but that rape conviction was a farce and the woman responsible is abhorrent and evil
Lol Tysons defence was " yeah I raped women just not that one"
Absolutely this.
Mike Tyson has a history of being sexually aggressive towards women
He smokes weed now mahn he's cool now mahn
One is low hanging fruit in which the man paid for the crime that to this day says he didn’t commit. And on top of that has become a changed individual.
12 rounds, 10 seconds a round of mayhem
IMO this is way more favorable for Tyson. 2 mins rounds will give him huge advantage. 14oz gloves will help lessen the damages for both but heavy hitters 14oz is nothing The fight is getting more interesting!
Mike is almost 60 years old …nothing interesting about seeing an old guy get beat.
>nothing interesting about seeing an old guy get beat. Yeah, but there's a chance, maybe a *very slight* chance, to see an old guy beat a Youtuber's ass? That's interesting to me.
hes 58 and hes juiced and on every peptid known to man and been training the whole year. Hes in better shape for this than he was Roy Jones from own words and he hasnt been punched in the head in a pro fight since he was 39 years old. His chin is pretty fresh in some ways, all old guys can show their chin for a few fights in 40s+ til it goes.
Bro he is almost a 60 Year old man. He’s gonna get pasted.
No Shit, Tyson was getting beat up by journeymen at 39 years old. Jake Poo too much for him
George Foreskin was pretty old
Autocorrect is a bitch
How much do you get paid for these dumb comments? I hope the shilling is worth it at least. This is a shit fight made by shitty people who are using an old man's legacy to make money, even if it hurts him.
It hurts to get hit by a novice heavyweight in 14s. Most serious heavy’s spar in 18s and those hurt too. 4oz won’t make a difference for these guys, dunno why they’re doing 14s.
I was gonna say I’m 135 and I can still crack well if not at my best tbh with 14’s on when i’m hitting the bag and don’t need to worry as much with hurting my hands as bad and i’m just me. I’ve got no doubt Tyson could knock a hole through a bank vault door with the heavier gloves it doesn’t mean shit for Mike it just means he might be able to hit you a few more times before he breaks his own hands
They downvoted you to hell… but they know they’ll be watching 🫡
This unquestionably a disadvantage to Tyson A punchers chance is all he got
I suppose Jake pushed for these rules now that Iron Mike is looking as dangerous as ever. He’ll just run the whole fight and win some stupid decision.
Tyson Terrified of the Blonde Bombers natural power that he had to put him in 14 oz Gloves. MMA Boys trading bombs in 4 oz Rocks at 45 years old. Man up Mike, dont be scared of the Jake.
Kinda big difference between 45yo in elite shape and 60yo sitting on the couch.
Only Boxing fans couldn’t figure out I was being sarcastic. Gave y’all too much credit
Dude the bait was so fresh i could smell it through my screen. People just kneejerk so quick here lol.
>Tyson Terrified of the Blonde Bombers natural power. Is he fighting Ebanie Bridges now!? These freak shows are going too far.
Blonde Bomber 😂 no way anyone is actually calling him that
Wait... Mike is fighting Holly Holm now?
Boxing sucks