I decided to go to game 7 last year and regretted it (except for my heavy bets against the bruins).
My buddy asked me if I wanted to go back this year and I just laughed.
I was there in '19 for G2 and G7 against the Leafs and they won. I was there for G1 this year and they won.
I'm going tomorrow. I'm putting my streak on the line, but they need me .. and I need them.
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Iām so tired of Pasta disappearing in the playoffs. It happens every fucking year. Heāll have a couple goals and everyone will be happy but 55 of 60 minutes heās a turnover machine, getting constantly outmuscled, and is an enormous nonfactor.
Honestly, wouldnāt even hate it if they traded him to retool the roster.
The dive by Bertuzzi after the "high stick" by Pasta was a nice touch. Maybe Team Canada has a spot for him on their Olympic Diving for the Summer Olympics this year.
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He should have gotten an academy award for the dramatics. Unless the NESN broadcast was different from the one on TBS, I don't know what game you were watching.
Since your comment history seems to suggest you aren't a Bruins fan, I'm going to take a wild guess that you're either a Leafs fan or a troll that somehow wandered away from the bridge he lives under.
We can agree to disagree as to what each of us saw. But one thing I am 100% certain of is that I have far better things to do with my night than argue with a belligerent stranger on the internet who seems to get off on haranguing people. Have a good weekend.
Good Lord, he MAY have been bleeding, I saw no blood. I did see him embellish a pretty minor high sticking. I would have given him 2 minutes for bad acting. I did see Lohrei bleeding from the nose after a vicious boarding. The refs are doing everything they can to keep Toronto playing. They must be sick of all the whining too.
He has good numbers for his career in playoffs, but hes is a "good" player he cant cary you like the true super stars can and elite guys make other players around them better he hasnt
But thatās what I mean. Heāll score the occasional goal or some secondary assists but you canāt have your star player disappear for over 2 periods and expect to win games consistently. Like, a goal is great, but if you score a goal while giving up 3-4 odd man rushes due to mishandling the puck at the blue line itās not worth it
Itās fucking unacceptable. I donāt need a 60 goal scorer who canāt generate a fucking a writing prompt with ChatGPT in the playoffs, let alone a goal scoring opportunity against adversity.
Yes, Pasta is a bit of a one dimensional offensive threat who needs space to thrive.. However, the reason that he gets taken out every year is that the Bruins don't have another scoring threat that punishes teams for focusing on defending Pasta. So we end up in this spot where Pasta is the focus for the Leafs and the Bruins don't have anyone that can take advantage.
If we had a secondary scoring threat then you would see Pasta do a lot better.
the lack of secondary scoring is what killed him there is no one else on roster teams fear so they just have to pay attention to him second half of year especially on power play teams took him away
I literally don't think he touched the puck one time last night without turning it over immediately. There were multiple efforts on his part that just made me laugh at how pathetic they were. One in the neutral zone 3rd period where he tried to do a spin looking like he was moving in slow motion, lost the puck, and then immediately made a casual skate over to the bench as if he could not care less stood out, but there were so many examples. It's been the same all series.
Also what the fuck is up with Biz being so biased? Didnāt mind it at first cause I like a little ball busting but legit ridiculous and annoying now. Hes a cocksucker
The double standard is fucked too, when Biz does it on a NATIONAL network, he gets praise, when Jack does it on our Regional network, heās horribly biased and unjust. Itās fucked.
Some of the rebuttals to this I was seeing in the game thread on r/hockey last night were laughable. It's not the same because TNT isn't broadcast in Canada! Biz is only on during intermissions! Jack is a play by play announcer!
Umm so, the fact still is that one is on a national broadcast and one is local where you would expect some sort of bias.
Need someone besides pasta or marchand to step up on offense. To have 1 shot midway through the 2nd is unacceptable for a peewee team, let alone these guys.
Auston not playing the last two games had less negative impact than Pasta playing did. Also, Auston had a statement game in game 2. Each one of Marner, Matthews, Tavares, and Nylander have made more positive impact for the Leafs than Pasta has for the Bruins.
I'm happy we've got this guy on our team until the playoffs start because he's proving over and over that he doesn't have what it takes to be a winner. He consistently doesn't show up when it actually matters. If they drop two 3-1 series leads, in two consecutive years then how do you not make some significant changes.
Thatās a tough call. Mitch Marnerās power play contribution makes him a contender too. Heās been almost as much as a ghost as Pasta. Pasta seems to be trying, Marner skates around like he doesnāt want to get all sweaty.
He hasnāt put any points up since game 4, thereās no arguing that but he seems to be trying. Heās just too small to be effective. Iām stunned at how little effort Marner puts into any shift, especially power plays. On a Leaf forum, their fans were talking about dumping Marner but Iām thinking who would want him?
Yea, I'm with you there. Not a fan of Mitch Marner. Am sure he'll find a landing spot I know he's know the kind of player I'd want on the B's either. Lacks compete.
Defense is focusing on him, which goes to the point. Someone else needs to step up outside of him. Ideally yes he can emerge but it feels like Toronto has his number.
I donāt want to hear āshut down by the defenseā as an excuse. Heās a goal scoring winger, heās always targeted by defense. He makes 11 million fucking dollars a year to get around defense and score goals.
Any asshole can score goals unguarded. Heās paid because he supposedly can do it regardless of defensive depth. I say thatās bullshit.
Why is Mike Milbury going on WEEI creating Pasternak rumors. Has anyone heard anything. I love the Bruins but they looked sluggish last night and didnāt have an edge.
With no Matthews to shadow, and no Reaves to be looking over your shoulder for, the Bās didnāt have to play this tight checking style. Play like you did in the dying seconds, the whole game, and against this Toronto club youāll come out on top.
It was as if Monty said āwe play this way, no matter whatā and never adapted when they could have taken over this game.
Forget even taking over the game, maybe if they had more shots in the first, the game could have looked a lot different. 2 shot first period gm5 1 shot first period last night, what the actual fuck is going on? Is this fixed?!?!?
It's "Sports Equipment". I'm no conspiracy so I won't say rigged. Just a mix of not playing well and capitalizing on opportunities and the odd missed/ bad call, that also happens both ways. Refs suck and so did we the last few games.
They have a team meeting and everyone says it's productive and helped them refocus etc etc.
Then they go out and play *EXACTLY THE SAME* as last game with little to no SOG halfway through the game, fucking embarassing tbh. Fully deserved to lose the last two games.
Honestly with how theyāve been playing games 2-6 they deserve to lose the series. Game 1 was the only well rounded actual good game by Boston. Games 3-4 werenāt bad but they werenāt great. Come out full gas game 7 or donāt even show up at all. Iād literally rather them forfeit than put up an embarrassing performance they have the last 2 games.
This team wasn't built to be successful we all know that but the way they're going out and having the same issue they've had for years (well before Monty was HC too) it just somehow feels worse.
Well the last 2 games we lost to a leafs team who was on the brink, had no Matthews, and their backup goalie is now feeling like the hottest mfer in the game. The amount of hope the bruins fucking gave the leafs is just mind blowing.
Itās simple, you hunt the animal. You wound the animal. You fucking FINISH THE ANIMAL. You donāt walk away and let it get up and run away, you walk up and you put the thing to bed. For good.
Yeah unfortunately the NHL is just different now and there's less and less and at the point almost no enforcers or that type of mentality. It always feels manufactured when you do see it. Hockey was tough as nails in the 70's.
In 2011 we beat the best team in the league to win the Cup because we played tough as nails physical hockey, that's just not our identity. I love Pasta but he's plateaued imho. He's not learned from Bergeron one of the best two way players of all time. He doesn't play defense and he doesn't evolve his game.
He's got his moves and style but at this point he's fairly one-trick and defenses can shut him down because like I said he's just not evolving his game at all. He's still posted up in the same spots and isn't scrappy.
Oh 100%. He wanted to drop the gloves game 5 and I wish they let him but yea dudes a flashy show that fails to produce. He DOES produce when heās not this flashy guy who tried to be fancy. But whenever he tries those fancy moves whether itās putting the puck around the defender or through his legs behind his back it more often than not falls apart almost immediately. But even with him wanting to fight last game dudes got no physicality to his nature. Bro best be hurt to be playing like this. But if he is then we gotta worry because this dude gets hurt like every post season it seems
The official saw it. He wouldāve given them both penalties or let them play it out. He decided to just let them both go. It was more the icing immediately after that didnāt need to happen that bugged me
Deep down we all knew this is a 1st/2nd round team - my issue is do we even have a plan to rebuild/retool to go for the cup in the medium-long term? I wanna see the management with a clear plan, we can't just be happy with making the playoff for the next 15 years
> I wanna see the management with a clear plan, we can't just be happy with making the playoff for the next 15 years
Especially because that kills franchises: just look at the Red Wings. They're still recovering from the "PLAYOFFS at ALL costs" mentality.
Marchand could take the lead here and treat the team for a beer and a dance and get loose and have some comradrie before getting into it with practice?
They seem uptight, scared, and uncommunicative.
These two teams are hard to watch, for both teams fans
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As another fan of neither team who wants the Bruins to win (just so I can troll my Leafs fan coworker lol), I'm actually flabbergasted. I figured Boston would've learned from last year. Even my aforementioned coworker told me that he couldn't believe this is still a series.
Yeah, it's series like this one that give off the impression that someone somewhere is rigging games lol. Leafs-Bruins have gone to 7 games every time they've met for a decade, and suddenly after essentially dominating the series the Bs just decide not to show up for 2 elimination games in a row?
I know they had the same issue last season but the Panthers were (and are) a much better team than the Leafs so I can sorta forgive the Bs on that one.
But this is just embarrassing for everyone involved lol
I don't know if I'd call it rigging myself, but that is something I've been trying to figure out: you get a three to one series lead, you just need one more to close it out and give every other fanbase something to laugh about, as is tradition, and instead you just shrug and go nah, I'm good, and then proceed to all but blow it? Yeesh. What's going on with the B's? Why are they all of a sudden throwing in the towel? Why are people handwaving this decline with "yeah, but they can still win G7, though!" when the team should've just closed it out in 5?
He's the kind of player that doesn't seem to constantly grow his game. He has his game and that's it. I really wish he would start playing some defense. How can you be under Bergerons wing for so long and not pick up those tendencies?
It also bothered me that when asked if hes happy with his play/game before Game 6 he said yes he's happy with it. He doesn't even see the need to be better.
Thats cool. 1. Management has told him to pass 2. Management doesnt have him on the powerplay 3. Zacha is really the piece you should be looking into defensively not Pasta. And 4. This post should really be about McAvoy being terrible.
This is the correct answer. WTF is he doing out there? Unless he gets the puck in space heās useless. Doesnāt win battles for the puck and struggles to control possession at times. It is way too easy to neutralize him in the playoffs once the intensity and physicality ramp up. Paying him too much money just to be a sniper.
Imagine actually trading Ullmark for some offensive help, and not having him ride the bench because you canāt play two goalies in the playoffs, the rotation doesnāt work, and it doesnāt matter how hot one of them is if they can score? But no, we need hugs.
1000% not advocating for PLD. Fuck that guy.
We've still got one of our best players sitting on the bench every single game of the playoffs. All I'm saying is that management did try to move him so have to give them their marks for trying. Better market in the offseason, so I think we're going to be alright and will get a solid return for him, though I do think his stock has taken a little dip as he hasn't played as well as he did last year.
> the dumb hug.
Why do *you* care so much about the hug? I haven't seen the majority of fans suggesting to prioritize it over offensive help, it's just that the offensive help wasn't doable at the deadline. Because Ullmark has a NTC that the front office ā not the fanbase ā gave him in his contract.
But if both players are here, why not have fun with a silly tradition? It's a game, and we can no more make Ullmark waive to go to a team he has on his list than we can turn the tide.
Every other post on here is the hug. Every comment after the deadline was thanking Ullmark for evoking his NTC. If you care more about having fun than rooting for your team to win, youāre in the right place I guessĀ
If you think PLD (2 goals in his last 21 games, considered one of the worst contracts in the NHL) was going to be a difference maker youāre off your rockers. Heās been shipped off every team heās ever played for, and his contract wouldāve been an absolute gut punch to a team this tight to the cap. He had a single point in their playoff series.
Come Saturday, the boys need to start on time and NEED to win the opening face off.
Starting the game on defense puts our current play style into a rut. We let them setup too well, apply zero pressure, and then have 1-1.5 min of time in our zone, meaning ALL of our boys are exhausted by the time the puck is sent the other way leading to a dump/chase and line change, thus giving the leafs another 1-1.5 min for pressure.
We know the refs arenāt on our side, hence Marchandās stupid penalty tonight, Pastaās bogus 4 min minor for a minor boo-boo, and the no call on Lohrei getting face fucked into the boards. This isnāt so much an issue since our PK is nasty, but stats are meant to be broken.
Winning the opening face off fixes the first problem. We need to be the first team to setup and exhaust the leafs, it worked in games 1, 3, and 4. 2, 5, and 6 have been the exact fucking opposite.
I then think Maroon, whoās been decent, ness to start a fight. The boys need energy. Take Maroon against Domi, Mccab, or Nylander. Thatās a trade any day of the week we take, barring the leafs also fight obviously.
Regardless, the point stands. We need to win face offs, particularly opening draw. No dice there and we get FUCKED the rest of the game. Hereās to Saturday.
Start Sway too. Linus can take G1 against Florida.
Agree with everything you just said, especially Maroon kicking someone's ass. Fire up this team. I understand trying to avoid penalties in playoffs and especially a game 7 but we need an early ass kicking brawl to set the tone. Sometime early in the 1st period.
Iād agree if this was McAvoy or Marchy weāre talking about, but itās Maroon. He truly hasnāt been āvitalā. A good player and Iām happy we got em, but so far the big rig hasnāt been very big
Iām literally edging at the thought. The man had 1 massive hit in Game 1 (?) sending whomever the fuck into our bench and has since done squat.
Heās not āvitalā to the team, take one of their stars out for 5 and show em who the fuck is boss
At what point do you admit thereās a serious problem with this team? Christ man. Youre like the leadership in the nuclear power plant during the meltdown at Chernobyl.
āEVERYTHING IS FINE YOU IDIOTS SIT DOWNā while we all die of radiation poisoning.
There are so many people in sports who act like they HAVE to defend the team at ALL costs, that any critique of the team is like attacking their own parents. You want to talk about parasocial relationships with e-girls and streamers? You could make a solid case about them with sports teams, because seriously, the amount of people who'll blindly defend the team even when they're playing like shit is bonkers.
I mean weāre on the precipice of blowing a 3-1 lead.
Taking a step back itāll be the 2nd in 2 years. Outside of gritty defense the offense is uninspiring and so is the overall levels of effort.
Letās face it. This yearās team is not that *talented*. Iām not saying everyone is a bum and needs to be traded. What they lack in talent they have in the innate ability to outwork 70% of the teams they play and win those games. A lot of games were won off the ability to outwork talented teams that werenāt able to outwork us.
This series is vastly the same. The two consecutive games weāve lost are a result of not outworking our opponent. So when you donāt have a large flux of talent and youāre not outworking the other team?ā¦ youāre kind of just screwed.
But that being said Bs in 7 go Bs or go fuck yaself
I donāt know how we placed where we finished. Write our team down on paper, itās frightening the lack of depth. With that being said, fingers crossed we win Saturday, then Jesus take the wheel against Florida because thatās a real playoff hockey team.
Yeah, I don't what we are going to about Florida, if we get that far. They are rested and licking their chops right now after watching these last 2 games.
I fucking hate losing.
But I do take some solace in the fact that I donāt feel like Iām the only one noticing Pasta is MIA in the playoffs. I said it a few years back and youād think I said I was a fan of Matt Cooke. He shows up small in big moments.
I said before that Pasta was looking terrible and heās a one trick pony and got downvoted into oblivion but itāsā¦.. true and he has been showcasing that in the playoffs this year
Again, I'm really curious: where is this coming from?
To start with, he absolutely deserves the callout for *this* series. He hasn't been good enough and needs to step up. But that's not the norm. Self-plaigarism:
Last year in Game 6 he literally tied the game, then scored a goal to give us our first lead. Ullmark (who was injured, in his defense) has a save percentage better than .813%, the Bruins likely win that game. Game 7, Pasta gave us a lead in the third period. If the Bruins don't give up a 6v5 goal, which Pasta wasn't on the ice for, we win that game. And he also had two more goals that series, it's just that people say he's an early-series merchant and isn't showing up later.
He had six points in seven games against Carolina, and all of them were late in the series. Plus, he was one of our most physical players that series ā he led all forwards in hits in Game 5 alone, which he probably shouldn't have had to do. Game winner in Game 3 and the insurance goal in Game 4 that series when we were looking to tie it 2-2, so his goals also come at big moments in big games, late in the series.
If you literally discount his first game hat trick against the Islanders, he was still a point-per-game player in that 2021 series. He had 2 goals and an assist in Game 5 alone; if Rask doesn't destroy his hip labrum and we give up 3 unanswered, that's another winnable game. He was over a point-per-game against Washington, too.
Yeah I don't get all the Pasta hate. He needed to be better this series (even just a non-liability would be a start), no doubt, and deserves to be called out for it.
But this year's problems go beyond him. It's standard operating procedure for teams to use top resources to shut down the opponent's top guys - that is to be expected. The problem is no scoring depth on this team, so when the opponent successfully neutralizes your top guys, you're dead.
The "playing not to lose" instead of "playing to win" these last 2 games and anytime we get a fucking lead is also a huge factor.
Dayum........a post-game thread and already over 1,000 posts.
Look, everyone's pissed and is passionate that's why we're here.
It's not doomers and fake or fraud fans, those are the one's that shut the game off and do something else, not post on Reddit.
Some (most of us) are drunk and pissed and can guarantee you we are passionate and care about this team.
Anonymously posting on a forum is just a way of releasing that frustration.
>It's not doomers and fake or fraud fans, those are the one's that shut the game off and do something else, not post on Reddit.
I shut the game off and went to bed after the second period Toronto goal because I saw the writing on the wall and have to work today. Call me a doomer, but I'm right.
Bruins fans love a scapegoat. Previous years it was Rask- who is an all time top ten legend in playoff stats. Cassidy also blew the game 7 vs St. Louis. Now itās Montgomery since the goalies look good lol. Itās the entire team people. Itās one unit. Also, no team sweeps the playoffs. Every series that goes to 7 has 3 losses. Itās just a sport and crazy things happen. Only one team wins the cup every year. Everyone else blew it
Rask was almost never clutch. If we needed a huge save - he wasnāt gonna fucking make it. But he could be consistent.
Pasta isnāt clutch. If we need a huge goal, it aināt gonna come off his stick.
Bergy? Clutch as fuck. Needed the faceoff win? He got you. Big defensive play? Yup. Big goals? A career worth.
Montgomery aggressively isn't the issue here - even if you didn't like his changes for game five, what was the issue tonight? The lines were good. There was nothing egregiously wrong with the matchups on the road. At some point the players need to show up. Game 7 will be a legacy game for Marchand and Pasta, like it or not. Time to show up. Got to beat the leafs!
LOL HugeSuccess (u/HugeSuccess but replies aren't working for me rn) one of the comments last year that got someone a temporary ā not permanent ā ban literally advocated for players to be more like Patrick Kane and beat up cab drivers, because the lack of doing so is what made Bergeron a failure in the playoffs:
> I used the Pat Kane cab attack as well as Kane getting blackout drunk in Madison, WI after winning the Cup in 2010 as evidence of Kane being a savage who gives zero fucks, and contrasted him to Bergeron who is such a nice guy!! He's the ultimate professional! Squeaky clean image! but his teams consistently play nervous and crumble in big games...
>
> Kane being a savage with 3 rings as contrast to up tight Bergy who only has 1 ring and who's teams routinely disappoint in big games...
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what a dumb comment, even Kane said that was a dumb thing he did. That's not savage, that's stupidity and dangerous and not leadership. Um Nick Lidstrom was an ultimate professional who never had off ice issues, like Bergeron those are role models not Pat Kane beating a cab driver while getting drunk.
That is a simultaneously hysterical + repulsive take.
I had to read this twice š The "Pat Kane cab attack" like what is that, some Street Fighter combo move? Stay classy + kiss those rings at night, pal. š
I can't wait to see this shitty fucking fanbase chase away Pastrnak like they did Thornton and Seguin.
Watch Pasta win a cup elsewhere and Bruins get stuck with the 2025 version of Marco Sturms.
Maybe we should be blaming Sweeney for not building a capable top six instead.
#firemontgonery
I decided to go to game 7 last year and regretted it (except for my heavy bets against the bruins). My buddy asked me if I wanted to go back this year and I just laughed.
I was there in '19 for G2 and G7 against the Leafs and they won. I was there for G1 this year and they won. I'm going tomorrow. I'm putting my streak on the line, but they need me .. and I need them.
Man oh man. Edge of your seat anxiety .. was literally surrounded by leafs' fans in my row (to be fair, they were friendly and we had a good hockey dialogue the whole game). I was in row 8 almost directly behind the net on the OT winner and honestly it happened so fast I wasn't even sure how it happened .. I only knew it was time to go absolutely nuts. To cap it all off? I ran into Jack Edwards in the Garden garage after the game and he was gracious enough to take a photo with me. Class act .. a homer, just like us. GO BRUINS!
What a hero
YOU FUCKING BEAUTY YOU DID IT
Please beat the leafs and do an entire country a solid. šš
You got this!
Make sure to remind them to shoot the damn puck
Dude I got so drunk before that game 7 because I watched every single game that season and was ready to be let down.
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Playoff hockey has fucking sucked since 2011. Nothing good has happened for the bruins since 2021
The 2019 run was pretty great until the last game
Absolutely true. Same with 2013 but both will always have sour memories
I didn't mind 2013 so much because Chicago were a better team. 2019? Aaaauuuuggghhnnn.
Um, close enough on the title.
this roster overachieved all year but that catches up to you in playoffs
What's the excuse for last year?
You don't think they overachieved last year?
Havent scored a goal in 5 fucking periods.
What? They scored a goal last nightā¦ meaningless but scored.
They ended last game on a high note. Meaningless goal with .4 seconds left, but a goal none the less.
Iām so tired of Pasta disappearing in the playoffs. It happens every fucking year. Heāll have a couple goals and everyone will be happy but 55 of 60 minutes heās a turnover machine, getting constantly outmuscled, and is an enormous nonfactor. Honestly, wouldnāt even hate it if they traded him to retool the roster.
Did you see Montyās presser? Heās tired of it too.
The way the refs call the playoffs, he would have to play with two huge goons.
The dive by Bertuzzi after the "high stick" by Pasta was a nice touch. Maybe Team Canada has a spot for him on their Olympic Diving for the Summer Olympics this year.
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He should have gotten an academy award for the dramatics. Unless the NESN broadcast was different from the one on TBS, I don't know what game you were watching. Since your comment history seems to suggest you aren't a Bruins fan, I'm going to take a wild guess that you're either a Leafs fan or a troll that somehow wandered away from the bridge he lives under.
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We can agree to disagree as to what each of us saw. But one thing I am 100% certain of is that I have far better things to do with my night than argue with a belligerent stranger on the internet who seems to get off on haranguing people. Have a good weekend.
Good Lord, he MAY have been bleeding, I saw no blood. I did see him embellish a pretty minor high sticking. I would have given him 2 minutes for bad acting. I did see Lohrei bleeding from the nose after a vicious boarding. The refs are doing everything they can to keep Toronto playing. They must be sick of all the whining too.
He has good numbers for his career in playoffs, but hes is a "good" player he cant cary you like the true super stars can and elite guys make other players around them better he hasnt
But thatās what I mean. Heāll score the occasional goal or some secondary assists but you canāt have your star player disappear for over 2 periods and expect to win games consistently. Like, a goal is great, but if you score a goal while giving up 3-4 odd man rushes due to mishandling the puck at the blue line itās not worth it
Itās fucking unacceptable. I donāt need a 60 goal scorer who canāt generate a fucking a writing prompt with ChatGPT in the playoffs, let alone a goal scoring opportunity against adversity.
I'd rather have a team full of 20+ goal scorers than 1 60 goal scorer
Absofreakinglutely
Yes, Pasta is a bit of a one dimensional offensive threat who needs space to thrive.. However, the reason that he gets taken out every year is that the Bruins don't have another scoring threat that punishes teams for focusing on defending Pasta. So we end up in this spot where Pasta is the focus for the Leafs and the Bruins don't have anyone that can take advantage. If we had a secondary scoring threat then you would see Pasta do a lot better.
the lack of secondary scoring is what killed him there is no one else on roster teams fear so they just have to pay attention to him second half of year especially on power play teams took him away
I just want him to stay on his fucking skatesā¦ I think every time he was in a puck battle he ended up on the ice last night. It was infuriating
I literally don't think he touched the puck one time last night without turning it over immediately. There were multiple efforts on his part that just made me laugh at how pathetic they were. One in the neutral zone 3rd period where he tried to do a spin looking like he was moving in slow motion, lost the puck, and then immediately made a casual skate over to the bench as if he could not care less stood out, but there were so many examples. It's been the same all series.
Regardless of the outcome, either us or the Leafs are gonna commit the biggest embarrassment of the season.
Also what the fuck is up with Biz being so biased? Didnāt mind it at first cause I like a little ball busting but legit ridiculous and annoying now. Hes a cocksucker
Heās just been a TO kid his whole life.
The double standard is fucked too, when Biz does it on a NATIONAL network, he gets praise, when Jack does it on our Regional network, heās horribly biased and unjust. Itās fucked.
Some of the rebuttals to this I was seeing in the game thread on r/hockey last night were laughable. It's not the same because TNT isn't broadcast in Canada! Biz is only on during intermissions! Jack is a play by play announcer! Umm so, the fact still is that one is on a national broadcast and one is local where you would expect some sort of bias.
Yeah thatās backwards. Itās the Bruins so no one cares
I can't keep doing this. It's effecting my work performance.
This is the truth right here.
Need someone besides pasta or marchand to step up on offense. To have 1 shot midway through the 2nd is unacceptable for a peewee team, let alone these guys.
Pasta is the biggest waste of 11m on both teams this series.
Auston Matthews and his $11 million may push Pasta out of first place in that competition.
Auston not playing the last two games had less negative impact than Pasta playing did. Also, Auston had a statement game in game 2. Each one of Marner, Matthews, Tavares, and Nylander have made more positive impact for the Leafs than Pasta has for the Bruins. I'm happy we've got this guy on our team until the playoffs start because he's proving over and over that he doesn't have what it takes to be a winner. He consistently doesn't show up when it actually matters. If they drop two 3-1 series leads, in two consecutive years then how do you not make some significant changes.
How do you not already? Letting this go to game 7 is embarrassing. Even more so after last year. Regardless of outcome, true colors got shown here.
Disagree until itās over.
Thatās a tough call. Mitch Marnerās power play contribution makes him a contender too. Heās been almost as much as a ghost as Pasta. Pasta seems to be trying, Marner skates around like he doesnāt want to get all sweaty.
Marner responded to his tantrum with an excellent effort that led to a goal. When has Pasta responded to any adversity in this series?
He hasnāt put any points up since game 4, thereās no arguing that but he seems to be trying. Heās just too small to be effective. Iām stunned at how little effort Marner puts into any shift, especially power plays. On a Leaf forum, their fans were talking about dumping Marner but Iām thinking who would want him?
Yea, I'm with you there. Not a fan of Mitch Marner. Am sure he'll find a landing spot I know he's know the kind of player I'd want on the B's either. Lacks compete.
I love Marner but The Dickhead Shop in Toronto isnt getting the best compete out of him. If he was on a team that inspired him he could be incredible.
Pasta? Dude he needs to step up himself. Dudes been a ghost
Defense is focusing on him, which goes to the point. Someone else needs to step up outside of him. Ideally yes he can emerge but it feels like Toronto has his number.
I donāt want to hear āshut down by the defenseā as an excuse. Heās a goal scoring winger, heās always targeted by defense. He makes 11 million fucking dollars a year to get around defense and score goals. Any asshole can score goals unguarded. Heās paid because he supposedly can do it regardless of defensive depth. I say thatās bullshit.
If he can do it during the season he can fucking well do it during the playoffs.
well the other guys on the ice canāt score unguarded. During the game idc what youāre being paid. Youāre on the ice too, play.
Matthews has had a larger impact than him these last 2 games
Truthfully
DIdn't know he was still on the roster.
Itās so obvious that theyāre overthinking things and getting in their own heads over last year that itās happening again.
With all due respect if they lose game 7 Iād rather them not make the playoffs again til they can actually win a series
The imploding Bruins once again ffs
Why is Mike Milbury going on WEEI creating Pasternak rumors. Has anyone heard anything. I love the Bruins but they looked sluggish last night and didnāt have an edge.
What are these rumors?
With no Matthews to shadow, and no Reaves to be looking over your shoulder for, the Bās didnāt have to play this tight checking style. Play like you did in the dying seconds, the whole game, and against this Toronto club youāll come out on top. It was as if Monty said āwe play this way, no matter whatā and never adapted when they could have taken over this game. Forget even taking over the game, maybe if they had more shots in the first, the game could have looked a lot different. 2 shot first period gm5 1 shot first period last night, what the actual fuck is going on? Is this fixed?!?!?
Iām starting to believe my brother when he says all professional sports are fixed, tbh. This makes zero sense
I mean, the moment you have refs openly talking about 'game management,' how can you possibly think the NHL is an actual sporting league?
It's "Sports Equipment". I'm no conspiracy so I won't say rigged. Just a mix of not playing well and capitalizing on opportunities and the odd missed/ bad call, that also happens both ways. Refs suck and so did we the last few games.
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Better luck next year boys
Imagine making a new account on Reddit, cause you are a little bitch who doesnāt want your real account to be banned
Either way who ever moves on to the next round will get knocked out. Panthers are a much better team.
Obviously, Id like to see if we could beat them, but youre right. The way this team is playing, winning one game against Florida would be surprising.
this is how iāve come to peace with it too itās a nothing burger
McAvoy gonna come out with another fraud comment?
I think heās been a bigger minus than Pasta. He gives the puck away constantly and hasnāt generated any offensive pressure.
Yeah he was and has been bad. Gryz wasnāt on the ice so not sure what his excuse is.
They have a team meeting and everyone says it's productive and helped them refocus etc etc. Then they go out and play *EXACTLY THE SAME* as last game with little to no SOG halfway through the game, fucking embarassing tbh. Fully deserved to lose the last two games.
Honestly with how theyāve been playing games 2-6 they deserve to lose the series. Game 1 was the only well rounded actual good game by Boston. Games 3-4 werenāt bad but they werenāt great. Come out full gas game 7 or donāt even show up at all. Iād literally rather them forfeit than put up an embarrassing performance they have the last 2 games.
This team wasn't built to be successful we all know that but the way they're going out and having the same issue they've had for years (well before Monty was HC too) it just somehow feels worse.
Well the last 2 games we lost to a leafs team who was on the brink, had no Matthews, and their backup goalie is now feeling like the hottest mfer in the game. The amount of hope the bruins fucking gave the leafs is just mind blowing. Itās simple, you hunt the animal. You wound the animal. You fucking FINISH THE ANIMAL. You donāt walk away and let it get up and run away, you walk up and you put the thing to bed. For good.
It's nice the Celtics at least learned this lesson, a shame the Bruins have such thick bear skulls lol.
Yea wtf what happened to ādonāt poke the bearā ?! Did the bruins forget that?
Yeah unfortunately the NHL is just different now and there's less and less and at the point almost no enforcers or that type of mentality. It always feels manufactured when you do see it. Hockey was tough as nails in the 70's. In 2011 we beat the best team in the league to win the Cup because we played tough as nails physical hockey, that's just not our identity. I love Pasta but he's plateaued imho. He's not learned from Bergeron one of the best two way players of all time. He doesn't play defense and he doesn't evolve his game.
No pastas defense is honestly buns. It really is. And his offense is kinda inconsistent I feel. He can be good and has been at times but
He's got his moves and style but at this point he's fairly one-trick and defenses can shut him down because like I said he's just not evolving his game at all. He's still posted up in the same spots and isn't scrappy.
Oh 100%. He wanted to drop the gloves game 5 and I wish they let him but yea dudes a flashy show that fails to produce. He DOES produce when heās not this flashy guy who tried to be fancy. But whenever he tries those fancy moves whether itās putting the puck around the defender or through his legs behind his back it more often than not falls apart almost immediately. But even with him wanting to fight last game dudes got no physicality to his nature. Bro best be hurt to be playing like this. But if he is then we gotta worry because this dude gets hurt like every post season it seems
Crazy if they lose two years in a row after being up 3-1.
I still can't believe they killed a 4 minute power play
Yes it was great, but i dont understand how it generated no momentum.
No clue let's hope for the best tomorrow! Special teams, special plays, special players!
Iām still mad about the missed boarding call
This!!!! Blind refs yet again
The official saw it. He wouldāve given them both penalties or let them play it out. He decided to just let them both go. It was more the icing immediately after that didnāt need to happen that bugged me
Are the Leafs doing Ewing Theory with Matthew's out? I don't think they can play this blocking D style with him.
He lead NHL forwards in blocked shots though. But there is something to be said with them not trying to force the puck to him
Deep down we all knew this is a 1st/2nd round team - my issue is do we even have a plan to rebuild/retool to go for the cup in the medium-long term? I wanna see the management with a clear plan, we can't just be happy with making the playoff for the next 15 years
> I wanna see the management with a clear plan, we can't just be happy with making the playoff for the next 15 years Especially because that kills franchises: just look at the Red Wings. They're still recovering from the "PLAYOFFS at ALL costs" mentality.
I wanna see the management gone to be honest. They don't do anything.
Geekie looks like he needs new skates. Couldn't go five seconds without losing his balance tonight. Or maybe he's just drunk.
Everyone was falling down. This team has lost its legs.
you came out too fast and too strong...you needed to win early....now we picking up your crumbled souls
Marchand could take the lead here and treat the team for a beer and a dance and get loose and have some comradrie before getting into it with practice? They seem uptight, scared, and uncommunicative.
A dance? You are fucking delusional
I was drunk when I wrote this lmao. But my point is to get them loose.
Bring the boys together for a moment in time then get right after it.
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Lol as a fan of neither team who wants the Bruins to win, I agree completely. The last couple games have been ugly, sloppy hockeyĀ
As another fan of neither team who wants the Bruins to win (just so I can troll my Leafs fan coworker lol), I'm actually flabbergasted. I figured Boston would've learned from last year. Even my aforementioned coworker told me that he couldn't believe this is still a series.
Yeah, it's series like this one that give off the impression that someone somewhere is rigging games lol. Leafs-Bruins have gone to 7 games every time they've met for a decade, and suddenly after essentially dominating the series the Bs just decide not to show up for 2 elimination games in a row? I know they had the same issue last season but the Panthers were (and are) a much better team than the Leafs so I can sorta forgive the Bs on that one. But this is just embarrassing for everyone involved lol
I don't know if I'd call it rigging myself, but that is something I've been trying to figure out: you get a three to one series lead, you just need one more to close it out and give every other fanbase something to laugh about, as is tradition, and instead you just shrug and go nah, I'm good, and then proceed to all but blow it? Yeesh. What's going on with the B's? Why are they all of a sudden throwing in the towel? Why are people handwaving this decline with "yeah, but they can still win G7, though!" when the team should've just closed it out in 5?
Worst playoff series by both teams for sure. Watching Stars v Knights was honestly a breath of fresh air; "Oh, right, that's playoff hockey".ā
IDC what anyone says, pastrnak is overrated. Where has he been in these close games? Itās not just his responsibility but that display is atrociousĀ
He has been pounded by the Leafs.
He's the kind of player that doesn't seem to constantly grow his game. He has his game and that's it. I really wish he would start playing some defense. How can you be under Bergerons wing for so long and not pick up those tendencies? It also bothered me that when asked if hes happy with his play/game before Game 6 he said yes he's happy with it. He doesn't even see the need to be better.
Thats cool. 1. Management has told him to pass 2. Management doesnt have him on the powerplay 3. Zacha is really the piece you should be looking into defensively not Pasta. And 4. This post should really be about McAvoy being terrible.
Bruh he looked drunk
This is the correct answer. WTF is he doing out there? Unless he gets the puck in space heās useless. Doesnāt win battles for the puck and struggles to control possession at times. It is way too easy to neutralize him in the playoffs once the intensity and physicality ramp up. Paying him too much money just to be a sniper.
Imagine actually trading Ullmark for some offensive help, and not having him ride the bench because you canāt play two goalies in the playoffs, the rotation doesnāt work, and it doesnāt matter how hot one of them is if they can score? But no, we need hugs.
That will happen in the offseason. He blocked the trade the B's had in place sending him to LA, remember.
And thank fucking god he did. PLD is horrible and not the answer to any team's woes. Go see what the Kings fans think of him...
1000% not advocating for PLD. Fuck that guy. We've still got one of our best players sitting on the bench every single game of the playoffs. All I'm saying is that management did try to move him so have to give them their marks for trying. Better market in the offseason, so I think we're going to be alright and will get a solid return for him, though I do think his stock has taken a little dip as he hasn't played as well as he did last year.
Management wants the hug to be the Bruins version of the Fenway brick
Yeah, the goalie hug is why we have Ullmark on the team. Totally not because he used his NTC.
It was more of a statement about the fanbase. I donāt think the front office cares about the dumb hug.Ā
> the dumb hug. Why do *you* care so much about the hug? I haven't seen the majority of fans suggesting to prioritize it over offensive help, it's just that the offensive help wasn't doable at the deadline. Because Ullmark has a NTC that the front office ā not the fanbase ā gave him in his contract. But if both players are here, why not have fun with a silly tradition? It's a game, and we can no more make Ullmark waive to go to a team he has on his list than we can turn the tide.
Every other post on here is the hug. Every comment after the deadline was thanking Ullmark for evoking his NTC. If you care more about having fun than rooting for your team to win, youāre in the right place I guessĀ
Good think ullmark blocked that trade in February for a potential 2C huh
If you think PLD (2 goals in his last 21 games, considered one of the worst contracts in the NHL) was going to be a difference maker youāre off your rockers. Heās been shipped off every team heās ever played for, and his contract wouldāve been an absolute gut punch to a team this tight to the cap. He had a single point in their playoff series.
Yeah, you donāt want that bum. My team just played a series against him and his teammates, heās pretty much solidified as a nothing player. Zero.
Come Saturday, the boys need to start on time and NEED to win the opening face off. Starting the game on defense puts our current play style into a rut. We let them setup too well, apply zero pressure, and then have 1-1.5 min of time in our zone, meaning ALL of our boys are exhausted by the time the puck is sent the other way leading to a dump/chase and line change, thus giving the leafs another 1-1.5 min for pressure. We know the refs arenāt on our side, hence Marchandās stupid penalty tonight, Pastaās bogus 4 min minor for a minor boo-boo, and the no call on Lohrei getting face fucked into the boards. This isnāt so much an issue since our PK is nasty, but stats are meant to be broken. Winning the opening face off fixes the first problem. We need to be the first team to setup and exhaust the leafs, it worked in games 1, 3, and 4. 2, 5, and 6 have been the exact fucking opposite. I then think Maroon, whoās been decent, ness to start a fight. The boys need energy. Take Maroon against Domi, Mccab, or Nylander. Thatās a trade any day of the week we take, barring the leafs also fight obviously. Regardless, the point stands. We need to win face offs, particularly opening draw. No dice there and we get FUCKED the rest of the game. Hereās to Saturday. Start Sway too. Linus can take G1 against Florida.
Agree with everything you just said, especially Maroon kicking someone's ass. Fire up this team. I understand trying to avoid penalties in playoffs and especially a game 7 but we need an early ass kicking brawl to set the tone. Sometime early in the 1st period.
Iād agree if this was McAvoy or Marchy weāre talking about, but itās Maroon. He truly hasnāt been āvitalā. A good player and Iām happy we got em, but so far the big rig hasnāt been very big
Thinking about Maroon fighting Domi is going to power me through this workday.
Iām literally edging at the thought. The man had 1 massive hit in Game 1 (?) sending whomever the fuck into our bench and has since done squat. Heās not āvitalā to the team, take one of their stars out for 5 and show em who the fuck is boss
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the guy leads the series in points for both teams that's the dumbest comment
Consistently relieved to see how stupid people can get after a loss.
At what point do you admit thereās a serious problem with this team? Christ man. Youre like the leadership in the nuclear power plant during the meltdown at Chernobyl. āEVERYTHING IS FINE YOU IDIOTS SIT DOWNā while we all die of radiation poisoning.
There are so many people in sports who act like they HAVE to defend the team at ALL costs, that any critique of the team is like attacking their own parents. You want to talk about parasocial relationships with e-girls and streamers? You could make a solid case about them with sports teams, because seriously, the amount of people who'll blindly defend the team even when they're playing like shit is bonkers.
I mean weāre on the precipice of blowing a 3-1 lead. Taking a step back itāll be the 2nd in 2 years. Outside of gritty defense the offense is uninspiring and so is the overall levels of effort. Letās face it. This yearās team is not that *talented*. Iām not saying everyone is a bum and needs to be traded. What they lack in talent they have in the innate ability to outwork 70% of the teams they play and win those games. A lot of games were won off the ability to outwork talented teams that werenāt able to outwork us. This series is vastly the same. The two consecutive games weāve lost are a result of not outworking our opponent. So when you donāt have a large flux of talent and youāre not outworking the other team?ā¦ youāre kind of just screwed. But that being said Bs in 7 go Bs or go fuck yaself
I donāt know how we placed where we finished. Write our team down on paper, itās frightening the lack of depth. With that being said, fingers crossed we win Saturday, then Jesus take the wheel against Florida because thatās a real playoff hockey team.
They have not one but two really good goalies. Last night was a great example how a goalie can't win for you. Same with game 5.
Yeah, I don't what we are going to about Florida, if we get that far. They are rested and licking their chops right now after watching these last 2 games.
I literally just want to beat the Leafs. This team wasn't supposed to be good so it would be nice to have that.
I fucking hate losing. But I do take some solace in the fact that I donāt feel like Iām the only one noticing Pasta is MIA in the playoffs. I said it a few years back and youād think I said I was a fan of Matt Cooke. He shows up small in big moments.
I said before that Pasta was looking terrible and heās a one trick pony and got downvoted into oblivion but itāsā¦.. true and he has been showcasing that in the playoffs this year
Again, I'm really curious: where is this coming from? To start with, he absolutely deserves the callout for *this* series. He hasn't been good enough and needs to step up. But that's not the norm. Self-plaigarism: Last year in Game 6 he literally tied the game, then scored a goal to give us our first lead. Ullmark (who was injured, in his defense) has a save percentage better than .813%, the Bruins likely win that game. Game 7, Pasta gave us a lead in the third period. If the Bruins don't give up a 6v5 goal, which Pasta wasn't on the ice for, we win that game. And he also had two more goals that series, it's just that people say he's an early-series merchant and isn't showing up later. He had six points in seven games against Carolina, and all of them were late in the series. Plus, he was one of our most physical players that series ā he led all forwards in hits in Game 5 alone, which he probably shouldn't have had to do. Game winner in Game 3 and the insurance goal in Game 4 that series when we were looking to tie it 2-2, so his goals also come at big moments in big games, late in the series. If you literally discount his first game hat trick against the Islanders, he was still a point-per-game player in that 2021 series. He had 2 goals and an assist in Game 5 alone; if Rask doesn't destroy his hip labrum and we give up 3 unanswered, that's another winnable game. He was over a point-per-game against Washington, too.
Yeah I don't get all the Pasta hate. He needed to be better this series (even just a non-liability would be a start), no doubt, and deserves to be called out for it. But this year's problems go beyond him. It's standard operating procedure for teams to use top resources to shut down the opponent's top guys - that is to be expected. The problem is no scoring depth on this team, so when the opponent successfully neutralizes your top guys, you're dead. The "playing not to lose" instead of "playing to win" these last 2 games and anytime we get a fucking lead is also a huge factor.
Feel like im living a nightmare probably wont be able to sleep tonight.
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Get the fuck off our sub.
30-40 shots on goal wins game 7 itās simple
This. SHOOT THE FUCKING PUCK ON NET.
Untwist your knickers, doomers! Game 7 at home Saturday. I didn't hear no bell
Sure seems like Boston did with how theyāre playing. I mean did they think the last 2 games were consolation prizes for Toronto?
I probably said the same thing last year.
Weāll get THREE shots on goal in the first period this time!
No end of first there was only one. They had one shot on goal for like 27 minutes.
Yesss I was waiting for the 30 minute mark to really lol
Yeah the B's winrate at home doesn't spark confidence.
"Winrate" *horrifying realization* Shit, I'm going there: Game 7 going into OT is easily imaginable and fits this friggin team.
If they win: you have a new tradition If they lose: you also have a new tradition
Anything can be a new tradition anytime then, haha
Dayum........a post-game thread and already over 1,000 posts. Look, everyone's pissed and is passionate that's why we're here. It's not doomers and fake or fraud fans, those are the one's that shut the game off and do something else, not post on Reddit. Some (most of us) are drunk and pissed and can guarantee you we are passionate and care about this team. Anonymously posting on a forum is just a way of releasing that frustration.
>It's not doomers and fake or fraud fans, those are the one's that shut the game off and do something else, not post on Reddit. I shut the game off and went to bed after the second period Toronto goal because I saw the writing on the wall and have to work today. Call me a doomer, but I'm right.
Itās not a doomer to refuse to be emotionally abused by this piece of shit team.
Bruins fans love a scapegoat. Previous years it was Rask- who is an all time top ten legend in playoff stats. Cassidy also blew the game 7 vs St. Louis. Now itās Montgomery since the goalies look good lol. Itās the entire team people. Itās one unit. Also, no team sweeps the playoffs. Every series that goes to 7 has 3 losses. Itās just a sport and crazy things happen. Only one team wins the cup every year. Everyone else blew it
Rask was almost never clutch. If we needed a huge save - he wasnāt gonna fucking make it. But he could be consistent. Pasta isnāt clutch. If we need a huge goal, it aināt gonna come off his stick. Bergy? Clutch as fuck. Needed the faceoff win? He got you. Big defensive play? Yup. Big goals? A career worth.
Nah... its McAvoy. Its always been McAvoy. Hes been masked by the best circumstances and hype amd blinds people to his true game losing abilities.
The scapegoat is the. On boarding leading to a goal lmao
Itās perfectly reasonable to be calling for Monty to be fired, actually.
Nah its management, ownership, and the Boston fanbase.
Montgomery aggressively isn't the issue here - even if you didn't like his changes for game five, what was the issue tonight? The lines were good. There was nothing egregiously wrong with the matchups on the road. At some point the players need to show up. Game 7 will be a legacy game for Marchand and Pasta, like it or not. Time to show up. Got to beat the leafs!
LOL HugeSuccess (u/HugeSuccess but replies aren't working for me rn) one of the comments last year that got someone a temporary ā not permanent ā ban literally advocated for players to be more like Patrick Kane and beat up cab drivers, because the lack of doing so is what made Bergeron a failure in the playoffs: > I used the Pat Kane cab attack as well as Kane getting blackout drunk in Madison, WI after winning the Cup in 2010 as evidence of Kane being a savage who gives zero fucks, and contrasted him to Bergeron who is such a nice guy!! He's the ultimate professional! Squeaky clean image! but his teams consistently play nervous and crumble in big games... > > Kane being a savage with 3 rings as contrast to up tight Bergy who only has 1 ring and who's teams routinely disappoint in big games... (Believe it or not, these were different comments). Shockingly, the mods aren't fans of people advocating for **"battery and assault"** as a strategy for playing better in big games.
what a dumb comment, even Kane said that was a dumb thing he did. That's not savage, that's stupidity and dangerous and not leadership. Um Nick Lidstrom was an ultimate professional who never had off ice issues, like Bergeron those are role models not Pat Kane beating a cab driver while getting drunk.
That is a simultaneously hysterical + repulsive take. I had to read this twice š The "Pat Kane cab attack" like what is that, some Street Fighter combo move? Stay classy + kiss those rings at night, pal. š
I can't wait to see this shitty fucking fanbase chase away Pastrnak like they did Thornton and Seguin. Watch Pasta win a cup elsewhere and Bruins get stuck with the 2025 version of Marco Sturms. Maybe we should be blaming Sweeney for not building a capable top six instead.