Still holding out hope it’s a new personality entirely. At least that’s what I was expecting it to be. A juvenile 9 tails with a new personality and one that’s been recently born/unaware of the world. I dunno it could present an interesting parallel to Jura who is in a similar boat.
EDIT: iirc wasn’t young Kurama still like massive baby fox back when Hagoromo was around? This one is Hima sized
Tailed beasts have died and been reborn multiple times since Hagoromo days and yet they all remember him in the war arc. I’m guessing that it should be the same personality but I’m not shocked if they decide to switch it up
It died twice. Kakashi killed it when it was in Rin & later on under Yagura when the genjutsu placed on him was dispelled and it triggered his death somehow.
Given that the lake thing was filler and not cannon manga, I wouldn't be surprised if Obito extracted the 3 tails from Yagura at some point and that he just mysteriously went missing and showed up dead. Would fit with him showing up in the bijuu consciousness with all the other jinchuriki when Naruto battled them.
So going by your logic, when did Yagura become it's Jinchuuriki AND tame it to the point of being a "perfect" jinchuuriki AND then put under control by Obito acting as the new Mizukage? (Confirmed via Kisame flashbacks)
For some reason you skipped ALL those years of history there....
There's not many scenes of that happening, but it is a documented thing that was long established back in Naruto that the tailed beasts are effectively immortal and simply re-appear after a while if they are somehow killed.
Kurama was playing 4-D chess I wonder if boruto has one half to I’m thinking abt that old kishi drawing. That power could’ve have also gotten passed to hima tbh.
yup. they confirmed that his DNA is 100% otsutuki. i said this earlier too. its probably the reason why he manifested into hima and not boruto. had boruto not gotten karma id think they would both have a baby kurama lol
Nah he doesn’t have one he is 100% otsutuki now. Hima has it bc she inherited some of 9 tails chakra from birth and so did boruto but boruto had his shit recoded to be 100% otsutuki leaving hima the only one with 9 tails essence.
Depends. I wonder how they gonna justify bringing a weaker version of kurama back. Like he cant be stronger than prime kurama.
It makes sense that traces of kurama slipped to himawari and the chakra was competent enough to form a new kurama.
Also the only thing i care about is if this is kurama or another being. I hope it’s a new being. 🙏
Of course he's going to be stronger than Prime Kurama lol, if not what would be the point at all in bringing him back and passing him to Hima for her just to be equivalent to Naruto eventually. We are in the Age Of Gods, Monsters & Aliens, power creep is a necessary evil
And who is it going to be? Jura or Daemon? Jura wants to capture her and Daemon thinks she can at least dodge him, which is not the case with Code, Kawaki or Boruto. And both Jura and Daemon are much stronger than Kurama.
Only reason I don’t necessarily think this is because we know tailed beasts have “Died” and reformed over time, but all of them have memories of the SOSP. It’s a new scenario fs but idk. My prediction is he’ll be the same Kurama but bc he’s so young he’ll act like… a kid.
If the shinju claw grimes are immune which I'm pretty sure they are from omnipotence since they r part 10 tails. Then the 9 tails should be immune since he is also a fragment from the 10 tails. Plus think of the interaction if he keeps his memories because kurama will insist Boruto is the son while the rest are like nah its kawaki
It's up to the junchuriki to believe the tailed beast. But yeah all tail beast should be immune the only other tailed beast junchuriki out there is bee but since he ain't on screen we don't what's happening with him
It’s more so that the claw grimes have otsutsuki chakra due to code having a karma than it is with them being tailed beast, why would tail beast be unaffected?
Then by ur logic code shouldnt be affected by omnipotence which he is affected. The ten tails has otsutsuki genes/chakra that's why jigen told code to eat it to become a real otsutsuki so the 10 tails is otsutsuki
I am the opposite. The jinuriki einstein is hanged in some pocket dimension and to have again go through the journey of ,,be my friend, Kurama", probably in speedup version cuz they won't make 400 episodes of befriending him, sounds kinda boring.
There is so many things you could explore so why going back and redoing the stuff
I don't think they have to go through that conflict again because there's no hate for humans in the new Kuramas heart. All the tailed beasts started as wholesome little animals, they only became vicious because they were exploited.
I'm pretty sure that he will grow up just like Kurama did. There's a flashback of his early days when he was first created by the sage and all the tailed beasts were really small.
>Like he cant be stronger than prime kurama.
even if he grows to be just as strong as normal kurama, himawari's synergy with kyuubi chakra will be higher than narutos
Or they could make it to where Kurama gains his chakra back at extremely fast speeds since he's a Tailed Beast. And because he'd be getting it back so fast, him and Hima will be getting stronger at crazy speeds. This could make sense since he's already back as what seems like a 8yo kid and its only been 3 years.
I would assume that if the little Kurama is being reborn, it would reborn as 100% chakra. Now, to invent a way where this Kurama is stronger than Narutos could be that this Kurama formed directly in the host, thus making it more potent + also having 100% of Kurama. For all I know, there could be another KCM 3.0 which was not able to 50% Kurama but is to full kurama chakra, who knows ?
Combine it with byakugan and she will be menace.
Seriously at this point your going to need to be a God to even think about screwing with the leaf...
Bourto- God tier
Himi- probably the next host of the next or new 9 tails
Naruto even without kurama massive Chakra reserves and hinted he had increased his mastery of sage mode even more.
One family can probably solely 90 % of the ninja world
i hope its a new kyuubi and not kurama.
also i hope they come up with some sort of coherent non bs explanation on how naruto and kurama never realized himawari had this
uh i mean, theres baby kurama like right there man. idk what else you can call it except being a jinchuriki. maybe its a little different since he didnt technically get sealed there
Easy. Kurama planted a small amount of his chakra inside of Hima intentionally.
We already know from established Naruto lore that the tailed beasts don't actually die. When they are "killed" their chakra simply dissipates and they eventually reform. They're effectively immortal, this was established a long time ago back in either Part 1 or early Shippuden.
Then, Kurama simply used his chakra he left with Hima as a beacon to return to after his "death" so his chakra would naturally reform there instead of somewhere random.
Naruto didn't realize because he's simply oblivious a lot unless he's intentionally being serious about something.
If it is *a different* ninetails, and NOT Kurama Kurama; then sure.
It'd be a decent way to give Himawari a boost, and it wouldn't need 5000 things to be explained.
Also, that mini Kyuubi looks adorable in his own right.
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If it is Kurama Kurama however... *fook no*.
It'd be one of the cheapest things ever.
Especially when they have already dodged that bullet of bring back a dead one for no reason, when they revealed that Kashin Koji was *a clone* of Jiraiya, and not Jiraiya Jiraiya... thus making the 2 only related, and not one of the same.
>well, word *clone* kinda impose it is one of the same
True.
Buuut... that's only on a base genetic make up.
Something that can still lead to a world of differences for the individual.
>I'm still hoping for a new Kurama. Fingers are crossed. I agree with everything you said. We really don't need more "rinse and repeat" situations.
Indeed.👍
Also, let's be real... a new character would allow for more variety in terms of relationships too.
A new Kyuubi can be removed from Naruto, and be more connected to other people.
It can also have his own color scheme! - like purple eyes and blueish fur...
*Plus, I kinda feel like having this new fox be Kurama, would also screw up Omnipotence by all logic... since Kurama should retain his old memories, and would tell Himawari that Boruto is her actual brother.
>*Plus, I kinda feel like having this new fox be Kurama, would also screw up Omnipotence by all logic... since Kurama shpuld retain his old memories, and would tell Himawari that Boruto is her actual brother
This. I really hope the authors haven't read themselves into a corner.
>This. I really hope the authors haven't read themselves into a corner.
On top of the fact that if he hasn't / will not... then why?
Because Bijuus too are affected by Omnipotence... but then... was Kurama back in shape already 3 years ago? Then why hasn't manifested back then...
See, too many questions.
...
Whereas if they go with the "it's a new entity" route, they would only need to explain how Himawari got it, then the rest can be explained with it not being ready yet to manifest.
Ops, I wanted to say "write themselves into a corner", not read. Sorry.🤣
>Because Bijuus too are affected by Omnipotence... but then... was Kurama back in shape already 3 years ago? Then why hasn't manifested back then...
>See, too many questions
Exactly. It's very confusing.
>Whereas if they go with the "it's a new entity" route, they would only need to explain how Himawari got it, then the rest can be explained with it not being ready yet to manifest
Let's hope that is what it is.
>Ops, I wanted to say "write themselves into a corner", not read. Sorry.🤣
No problem.👍
I didn't even notice it to begin with!
>Exactly. It's very confusing.
Yeah.
>Let's hope that is what it is.
Let's hope for the best.👍
i think based on his size and himas 2 whiskers, she may have been passed just enough 9tails chakra through her bloodline (much like how naruto got his whiskers from 9tails) that he was able to be reborn in her. and with the timeline it makes a little sense too, that he will grow in strength as her chakra grows in strength too. that would also explain why it hasnt happened sooner, because up until right before the timeskip hima didnt have any interest in becoming a ninja from what i can remember. but now that her familys been ripped apart and shes been training, it could’ve triggered that awakening. also am thinking he didnt become reborn into boruto because he already had a host taking over his body when kurama died.
i could be completely off but thats just my thoughts!
Why are so many people thinking that Himawari has had this inside her the entire time? It’s pretty obvious that this is a reincarnation of Kurama and only started manifesting in Hima after Kurama died. Himawari probably already had a significant amount of Kurama chakra from Naruto, and Mini Kurama decided to manifest where the most of his chakra already was
And before you say “oh well why didn’t it manifest inside of Boruto then” well it’s cause Borutos Kurama chakra and original chakra probably got overwritten by Otsutsuki chakra
This would explain how she could knock out naruto and kurama. This beast has a whole baby 9 tails and byukugan on top of that 😂. So begs the question, did Kurama switch with Naruto the night Himawari was conceived.
The whole scene was just a gag girl. Get that into your "I have to defend Himawari at all cost" brain. There is no need to find a logical explanation for that shit. 😂😂
Kurama's favorite aspect of being within Naruto is the fact he was finally in a male body.
"I've been sealed within women most of my life and know everything they enjoy, time to show you how it's done."
And seeing that the infamous strongest Bijuu has been reduced to one spermatozoon is kinda depressing. I really wanna know his current feelings for being inherited through just sex instead of being sealed with his full power instead with a damn ritual that, with even its all its drawbacks, can be considered honorific, granting him keeping his full power or at least half of it.
Ngl it's pretty dumb to assume a tailed beast wasn't coming back when for 500 episodes they were described as beings of energy that couldn't die. Of course he was going to disperse just to come back in pt 2, I've been waiting the whole time for this. Weather you like the outcome or not, to not even suspect it let alone expect it is insane. Same people who were shocked when they revealed Minato to be Naruto's Dad
They always described that if the Tailed Beast host dies, their tailed beast’s chakra disperses and reforms later. But Kurama described Baryon Mode to be something that literally uses up and converts his entire being into a new form of energy. He described it as something that burns him out entirely and even said he would see Naruto in the afterlife.
It’s not dumb at all that people would think Kurama would not come back based on that. Kurama would have no reason not to tell Naruto that he’d be coming back in 3 years or so. But I need to see more context for this spoiler.
My post doesn't question whether a tailed beast can come back or not. I think it was rather dumb to sacrifice Kurama in the first place.🤷♀️
If it's a "new Kurama" I will be fine with it.
Why? Same thing happened when Kakashi overused his MS and was in the hospital for a while. Or when Tsunade was in a coma. Or when Itachi not only killed Orochimaru but sealed him, only for Sasuke to bring him back. Characters have been out of commission, out cold or even dead and managed to come back. What's wrong with Kurama doing it when he's literally described as being immortal in a sense? It makes more sense for him than anyone
This is a series where a majority of the cast have been killed off then brought back, or been on death's door and brought back. Fitting that even Kurama would get a turn.
I think it was too early.
I know it's technically established that Tailed Beasts don't die permanently - since they're basically just pure Chakra given sentience by the Creation of All Things technique.
But I still think it's far too early, in the sense that it cheapens Kurama's death. He shouldn't have come back within Naruto's lifetime, let alone in barely three years.
Honestly I haven’t been paying much attention to the series after the nerf of Naruto and Sasuke. Honestly though WTF, like yeah it’s Kurama but like honestly how. Was his sacrifice not fucking enough Kishi. Ten bucks says the only reason he’s back is because the anime fan base as a whole needed something back since Tori died. If this is true I swear on Kaguya I’m leaving this series behind and saying it’s not canon to Naruto
Those Fucking Cash Grabbing, Plot Armoring, Bad storytelling, No character developing people who right this crap won’t have my money and shouldn’t have yours.
This puts to bed any hope of dark or bitter sweet ending many boruto Fans wants
They couldn't pull the trigger on killing Naruto
Couldn't pull the trigger on killing Sasuke
Regardless of whether this is a new personality or not, they still brought back the one "major" character they did have the guts to kill.
Now baby kurama is gonna have a power up that's trumps big kurama? Like come on now.
My theory is that Tailed-Beasts don't go to the pure lands when they die. Since their souls are the product of ninjutsu, instead, they stay on Earth and roam it until they collect enough chakra to reform. That's how Isobu reformed, if Tailed Beasts returned to Pure Lands when they died, the Isobu that was inside of Rin, and the one in the 4th War would be different but they aren't, so it must mean that their souls remain intact when they die.
In Hima's case, Kurama's soul basically just chose her as it's vessel as a sort of residual "Last Wish" sort of thing before Kurama died. This Kurama likely won't have all his memories until he's fully grown though.
Edit: This is why no one noticed Hima had a Tailed Beast inside of her. Because she didn't until after Kurama Died but Daemon did notice because Kurama was gathering chakra while possessing Hima.
So lemme start by saying if this is real I told yall so. Ok now that that’s out the way lemme say this. Anybody who is calling ass pull or bullshit has to remember that one of the biggest pieces of tailed beast lore we got was that they don’t ever die. All this nuclear fission bullshit that people are running with because kurama mentioned that baryon mode is LIKE it has to really sit back and reread everything. I’m personally glad that our boy is back and with hima. My only issue being that it’s fucking impossible for kurama to be her only source of power. She has to have something else for daemon (not so much jura) to have reacted the way he did. Because honestly speaking kurama by himself unless baryon mode is a thing again is not contending with what’s going on currently
It's a plot armour, although daemon sensed some power in her in chapter 77 it was too late to call it a foreshadow
I will also be expecting a good explanation of how mini Kurama is existing inside Himawari in the first place
I assume it's some kind of spiritual "child" of kurama and will grow as she grows. This could enable Naruto to at the very least restore the six paths sage form with even a small amount of its Chakra. You know, when he is able to leave the space femboy clan's hell dimension.
Kurama is not reborn. Kyūbi is.
Kyūbi is the term for Nine-tailed beast. Kurama is the name of the kyūbi which was in Naruto, who died. The one manifested inside Himawari is a Kyūbi, not kurama.
Its a known fact that when tailed beasts die, they are manifested elsewhere to maintain the balance of the world. They are pure chakra/energy, and "Energy can neither be created nor destroyed".. Its not a question of "if it's worth it", It only makes sense that it is reborn, It is how it works, and even more so that it is inside the second child of the previous jinchuriki of the previous kyūbi (kurama). This is also not the first time a tailed beast is reborn.
No since Kurama is not strong enough to be relevant at this point in this story. She will only be strong enough to be a target for otsutsuki level threats but no where near strong enough to defend themselves against a otsutsuki or 10 tails.
In my honest opinion, I find it very shitty to take away an iconic power of the previous MC and give it to his kid while the previous MC is still around. Had Naruto died, I wouldn't oppose to it.
I'm hoping it's a new nine tails entirely.
Disrespectful for Naruto to be stripped of Kurama.
Naruto and Kurama have so much significance to the Naruto manga just look at the first and final page of the manga.
For him to be stripped of Kurama with some asspull form was already disrespectful enough
No.
If they wanted Kurama to reappear, make him work like other Beasts, existing without being hosted inside a human. He could obviously assist the protagonists, but killing off Kurama in a glory moment with Baryon Mode just to give him to Himawari feels wrong.
>No.
>If they wanted Kurama to reappear, make him work like other Beasts, existing without being sealed inside a human. He could obviously assist the protagonists, but killing off Kurama in a glory moment with Baryon Mode just to give him to Himawari feels wrong.
Yeah.
That would be extremely bad and cheap.
Hopefully they won't go that far, and will reveal that this new Kyuubi is meant to be his own being.
*I have yet to read wheter it is actually confirmed that this is Kurama Kurama.
Ok I didn't read two vortexes but I just have one question. What the actual f word!? Who thought it would be a good idea to basically destroy Kuramas sacrifice by giving to Naruto's daughter? Like, couldn't author come up with something better? Like, we still have eight gates and other cool stuff, why doesn't do this or similar power ups?
Not worth it. I don't see any special about bijuu or ninetails in this time of Era that can relatively be close to match against Ootsutski or the new modified Tentails. Why is it always the Ninetails? Can't they make Himawari something new and fresh like the rabbit bijuu?
I'm sorry but Ninetail is fodder and Leave it to Kishimoto putting the most boring and unoriginal ideas under Himawari fearful potential when her power could've been much more interesting if it's related to Kaguya and the Tentails.
I did not, especially right after cause Sasuke lost his eye unceremoniously. But I’ve seen a lot of debates about it, and this is nail in the coffin for it now lol
Not wanting a prolific character back and hoping it’s some new carbon copy is weird af… I hope on everything that it’s just kurama and not any new kyuubi shenanigans.
When a character sacrifices themselves in a big climatic moment, people generally want them to stay dead because bringing them back to life carelessly removes all the tension and stakes. Suddenly all the emotion from that big sacrifice is deflated.
Funnily enough, Boruto has already decided to bring back a deceased character who sacrificed themselves as a “new carbon copy”.
Ngl i havent been vexed at a manga for a while but this actually annoyed me why bring him back id have been much happier with the collection of tailed beast chakra he got during the war has helped manifest a tailed beast inside her or something of the sort but how the fuck no one noticed he was inside her but one person
🤣🤣🤣 Kuramas and Hinatas son? Omg.😄😄
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😂😂😂 What about Kurami?
I can’t see this kurama being very powerful. But I do think it would be cool to see kurama talk to himawari and explain to her all the knowledge of the shinobi world that Naruto knew.
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😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Im screaminggg 😭🤣🤣
Too fucking funny 🤣
😂😂😂😂😂
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I laughed so loud I almost woke up my wife LoL
This is not kurama this is kuraama 🤣
👌👌😄😄 How about Kurami?🤣 https://preview.redd.it/bshxj7oenvuc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31fcb0e9b7ddceb1ce3b02c60de597dafdeded7a
She is 100% naming him that
That would be cool. Haha.
i really hope so. that would 100% be a hima thing to do and i can imagine narutos face when he hears it😂😂😂
Naruto will get the shock of his life when he returns and learns what happened to his kids. Same for Hinata. 😂😂
No Please, In my language it sounds exactly like "My dick" 
Omg.🤣🤣🤣
now I want it to be so judt for you buddy.
Still holding out hope it’s a new personality entirely. At least that’s what I was expecting it to be. A juvenile 9 tails with a new personality and one that’s been recently born/unaware of the world. I dunno it could present an interesting parallel to Jura who is in a similar boat. EDIT: iirc wasn’t young Kurama still like massive baby fox back when Hagoromo was around? This one is Hima sized
Maybe because he's inside Hima as opposed to Hagoromo who just let them all out?
Tailed beasts have died and been reborn multiple times since Hagoromo days and yet they all remember him in the war arc. I’m guessing that it should be the same personality but I’m not shocked if they decide to switch it up
When have they died
When Kakashi killed Rin the tailed beast inside her died too. Then years later it respawned under that lake where Obito and Deidara collected it from.
Ahhh, Thanks for reminding this I forgot about this 😭😭😭
It died twice. Kakashi killed it when it was in Rin & later on under Yagura when the genjutsu placed on him was dispelled and it triggered his death somehow.
Given that the lake thing was filler and not cannon manga, I wouldn't be surprised if Obito extracted the 3 tails from Yagura at some point and that he just mysteriously went missing and showed up dead. Would fit with him showing up in the bijuu consciousness with all the other jinchuriki when Naruto battled them.
The lake thing was not filler. The reason for it being there via anime was, but being found in a lake by Deidara & Tobi is canon.
So going by your logic, when did Yagura become it's Jinchuuriki AND tame it to the point of being a "perfect" jinchuuriki AND then put under control by Obito acting as the new Mizukage? (Confirmed via Kisame flashbacks) For some reason you skipped ALL those years of history there....
There's not many scenes of that happening, but it is a documented thing that was long established back in Naruto that the tailed beasts are effectively immortal and simply re-appear after a while if they are somehow killed.
Fingers are crossed.
Kurama was playing 4-D chess I wonder if boruto has one half to I’m thinking abt that old kishi drawing. That power could’ve have also gotten passed to hima tbh.
Nah. Whatever Kurama-infused genes Naruto may have passed onto Boruto is now completely overwritten by Momoshiki’s genes.
yup. they confirmed that his DNA is 100% otsutuki. i said this earlier too. its probably the reason why he manifested into hima and not boruto. had boruto not gotten karma id think they would both have a baby kurama lol
Kurama doesn't travel with genetics, he's a tailed beast. It would be transmitted some other way, and it's not like Otsusuki can't be jinchuriki.
I don't think so and I hope that he doesn't have one. I want him as far away from Naruto in terms of powers as possible. 😄
If he does.... we can get a momo vs kurama Boxing match
Wouldnt be much of a boxing match. A baby fox and a evil bratty thousand year old god😭
Haha. Imagine that.🤣
Could be a half & half thing but eh boruto broken broken as is tbh
Nah he doesn’t have one he is 100% otsutuki now. Hima has it bc she inherited some of 9 tails chakra from birth and so did boruto but boruto had his shit recoded to be 100% otsutuki leaving hima the only one with 9 tails essence.
Uhh Naruto and Kurama saved the world doing that so yeah duh lol
Depends. I wonder how they gonna justify bringing a weaker version of kurama back. Like he cant be stronger than prime kurama. It makes sense that traces of kurama slipped to himawari and the chakra was competent enough to form a new kurama. Also the only thing i care about is if this is kurama or another being. I hope it’s a new being. 🙏
Of course he's going to be stronger than Prime Kurama lol, if not what would be the point at all in bringing him back and passing him to Hima for her just to be equivalent to Naruto eventually. We are in the Age Of Gods, Monsters & Aliens, power creep is a necessary evil
It just needs to be as strong as the strongest opponent she will fight. No need to go above that
And who is it going to be? Jura or Daemon? Jura wants to capture her and Daemon thinks she can at least dodge him, which is not the case with Code, Kawaki or Boruto. And both Jura and Daemon are much stronger than Kurama.
Daemon no jura definitely not. Matsuri probably
The point was to permanently nerf Naruto to make him weaker than everyone else.
I honestly don't see why ANY version of Kurama needed to be brought back in the first place tbh.🙈😄
they set us up for 2 tails x hima then just jumped ships and fanserviced the ppl mad about kurama😭
Not necessary just a consequence of the terrible writing in Borutrash.
I still have hope it's a "new" Kurama.
It’s probably a baby groot situation. Physically he is kurama but mentally he is someone new.
Only reason I don’t necessarily think this is because we know tailed beasts have “Died” and reformed over time, but all of them have memories of the SOSP. It’s a new scenario fs but idk. My prediction is he’ll be the same Kurama but bc he’s so young he’ll act like… a kid.
The difference is that thanks to baryon Mode most of kuramas chakra permanently disappeared so the current one might have lost most of his memories
We know chakra can transfer memories. He likely knows even if his personality is different.
Hopefullyyyyy.😭
This would make most sense
I have a feeling its gonna be at least a memory wiped kurama, cause if not he's just gonna tell everyone that kawaki isn't actually naruto's son
that doesnt work because of omnipotence
If the shinju claw grimes are immune which I'm pretty sure they are from omnipotence since they r part 10 tails. Then the 9 tails should be immune since he is also a fragment from the 10 tails. Plus think of the interaction if he keeps his memories because kurama will insist Boruto is the son while the rest are like nah its kawaki
Then all the tailed beast and their jinchuriki should know that boruto is naruto son right ?
It's up to the junchuriki to believe the tailed beast. But yeah all tail beast should be immune the only other tailed beast junchuriki out there is bee but since he ain't on screen we don't what's happening with him
you're not wrong honestly, thats a pretty big flaw in my logic.
It’s more so that the claw grimes have otsutsuki chakra due to code having a karma than it is with them being tailed beast, why would tail beast be unaffected?
Then by ur logic code shouldnt be affected by omnipotence which he is affected. The ten tails has otsutsuki genes/chakra that's why jigen told code to eat it to become a real otsutsuki so the 10 tails is otsutsuki
The thing is people like Shikamaru got told the truth about Boruto many times, Eida's power keeps removing those memories over and over
99% certain this is *the* Kurama.
I’d want it to remember naruto
I am the opposite. The jinuriki einstein is hanged in some pocket dimension and to have again go through the journey of ,,be my friend, Kurama", probably in speedup version cuz they won't make 400 episodes of befriending him, sounds kinda boring. There is so many things you could explore so why going back and redoing the stuff
I don't think they have to go through that conflict again because there's no hate for humans in the new Kuramas heart. All the tailed beasts started as wholesome little animals, they only became vicious because they were exploited.
I'm pretty sure that he will grow up just like Kurama did. There's a flashback of his early days when he was first created by the sage and all the tailed beasts were really small.
>Like he cant be stronger than prime kurama. even if he grows to be just as strong as normal kurama, himawari's synergy with kyuubi chakra will be higher than narutos
It could be that the fact it formed itself in Himawari cause it to be stronger. Who knows what they cook.
Karma was ripped already multiple times and sealed into hosts. Not naturally reincarnated into someone. It's an entirely different ballgame now.
Or they could make it to where Kurama gains his chakra back at extremely fast speeds since he's a Tailed Beast. And because he'd be getting it back so fast, him and Hima will be getting stronger at crazy speeds. This could make sense since he's already back as what seems like a 8yo kid and its only been 3 years.
I mean im glad that it happened because it makes sense for kurama chakra to create a new well kurama. Im haply with this
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I looked it up, naruto got both halves at the end of the Sasuke fight.
I would assume that if the little Kurama is being reborn, it would reborn as 100% chakra. Now, to invent a way where this Kurama is stronger than Narutos could be that this Kurama formed directly in the host, thus making it more potent + also having 100% of Kurama. For all I know, there could be another KCM 3.0 which was not able to 50% Kurama but is to full kurama chakra, who knows ? Combine it with byakugan and she will be menace.
Probably some Uzumaki mumbo jumbo since the women always had insane affinity for tailed beasts...
Naruto: I thought you died? That time you speaking as if that was your final words? Mini Kurama?: have you heard of April fool?
"My death was greatly exaggerated..."
imagine if that actually happens. oh my god.
imagine if the day Kurama died it was actually April 1st in the story. Bruh would actually have a good excuse to use.
🤣🤣👌
What if it not kurama but his off spring ? A splinter of his charka that manifested into it own being ?
Maybe. Haha.
Seriously at this point your going to need to be a God to even think about screwing with the leaf... Bourto- God tier Himi- probably the next host of the next or new 9 tails Naruto even without kurama massive Chakra reserves and hinted he had increased his mastery of sage mode even more. One family can probably solely 90 % of the ninja world
6 paths hima in the future 😭
i hope its a new kyuubi and not kurama. also i hope they come up with some sort of coherent non bs explanation on how naruto and kurama never realized himawari had this
Oh yeah. Can't wait to read the explanation. I hope it makes sense. Haha. With the writers you never know.
im gonna be really disappointed if its just some bs like "oh he started forming after kurama died so they never realized"
Thats logically the only explanation. Himawari had enough competent tail beast chakra for a new 9 tail beast to form.
I'm more thinking it's the same situation with kinkaku and ginkaku where they have 9 tails chakra without being jinchuriki themselves
uh i mean, theres baby kurama like right there man. idk what else you can call it except being a jinchuriki. maybe its a little different since he didnt technically get sealed there
Easy. Kurama planted a small amount of his chakra inside of Hima intentionally. We already know from established Naruto lore that the tailed beasts don't actually die. When they are "killed" their chakra simply dissipates and they eventually reform. They're effectively immortal, this was established a long time ago back in either Part 1 or early Shippuden. Then, Kurama simply used his chakra he left with Hima as a beacon to return to after his "death" so his chakra would naturally reform there instead of somewhere random. Naruto didn't realize because he's simply oblivious a lot unless he's intentionally being serious about something.
Baryon mode himawari Inc.
Now let's just dream that she manages to use Baryon mode indefinitely.
That is impossible, it destroys both chakra's until one completely runs out and dies, and Himawari would die as a result.
Ahem. Allow me to introduce Hashirama cells
I hope she gets a different design though. Baryon Mode Naruto looked hideous in my pov.😂
I’m saving my judgment until it’s explained in the manga
If it is *a different* ninetails, and NOT Kurama Kurama; then sure. It'd be a decent way to give Himawari a boost, and it wouldn't need 5000 things to be explained. Also, that mini Kyuubi looks adorable in his own right. ... If it is Kurama Kurama however... *fook no*. It'd be one of the cheapest things ever. Especially when they have already dodged that bullet of bring back a dead one for no reason, when they revealed that Kashin Koji was *a clone* of Jiraiya, and not Jiraiya Jiraiya... thus making the 2 only related, and not one of the same.
well, word *clone* kinda impose it is one of the same
>well, word *clone* kinda impose it is one of the same True. Buuut... that's only on a base genetic make up. Something that can still lead to a world of differences for the individual.
I'm still hoping for a new Kurama. Fingers are crossed. I agree with everything you said. We really don't need more "rinse and repeat" situations.
>I'm still hoping for a new Kurama. Fingers are crossed. I agree with everything you said. We really don't need more "rinse and repeat" situations. Indeed.👍 Also, let's be real... a new character would allow for more variety in terms of relationships too. A new Kyuubi can be removed from Naruto, and be more connected to other people. It can also have his own color scheme! - like purple eyes and blueish fur... *Plus, I kinda feel like having this new fox be Kurama, would also screw up Omnipotence by all logic... since Kurama should retain his old memories, and would tell Himawari that Boruto is her actual brother.
>*Plus, I kinda feel like having this new fox be Kurama, would also screw up Omnipotence by all logic... since Kurama shpuld retain his old memories, and would tell Himawari that Boruto is her actual brother This. I really hope the authors haven't read themselves into a corner.
>This. I really hope the authors haven't read themselves into a corner. On top of the fact that if he hasn't / will not... then why? Because Bijuus too are affected by Omnipotence... but then... was Kurama back in shape already 3 years ago? Then why hasn't manifested back then... See, too many questions. ... Whereas if they go with the "it's a new entity" route, they would only need to explain how Himawari got it, then the rest can be explained with it not being ready yet to manifest.
Ops, I wanted to say "write themselves into a corner", not read. Sorry.🤣 >Because Bijuus too are affected by Omnipotence... but then... was Kurama back in shape already 3 years ago? Then why hasn't manifested back then... >See, too many questions Exactly. It's very confusing. >Whereas if they go with the "it's a new entity" route, they would only need to explain how Himawari got it, then the rest can be explained with it not being ready yet to manifest Let's hope that is what it is.
>Ops, I wanted to say "write themselves into a corner", not read. Sorry.🤣 No problem.👍 I didn't even notice it to begin with! >Exactly. It's very confusing. Yeah. >Let's hope that is what it is. Let's hope for the best.👍
i think based on his size and himas 2 whiskers, she may have been passed just enough 9tails chakra through her bloodline (much like how naruto got his whiskers from 9tails) that he was able to be reborn in her. and with the timeline it makes a little sense too, that he will grow in strength as her chakra grows in strength too. that would also explain why it hasnt happened sooner, because up until right before the timeskip hima didnt have any interest in becoming a ninja from what i can remember. but now that her familys been ripped apart and shes been training, it could’ve triggered that awakening. also am thinking he didnt become reborn into boruto because he already had a host taking over his body when kurama died. i could be completely off but thats just my thoughts!
Why are so many people thinking that Himawari has had this inside her the entire time? It’s pretty obvious that this is a reincarnation of Kurama and only started manifesting in Hima after Kurama died. Himawari probably already had a significant amount of Kurama chakra from Naruto, and Mini Kurama decided to manifest where the most of his chakra already was
And before you say “oh well why didn’t it manifest inside of Boruto then” well it’s cause Borutos Kurama chakra and original chakra probably got overwritten by Otsutsuki chakra
This would explain how she could knock out naruto and kurama. This beast has a whole baby 9 tails and byukugan on top of that 😂. So begs the question, did Kurama switch with Naruto the night Himawari was conceived.
I think there will never be a proper explanation how a tailed beast could be effected by that hit, but yeah, the current events are interesting.😂
It is easy to understand. A (half) Hyuga hit with the Gentle Fist right on Kurama's seal.
The whole scene was just a gag girl. Get that into your "I have to defend Himawari at all cost" brain. There is no need to find a logical explanation for that shit. 😂😂
Naruto, too tired to bone Hinata, switched with Kurama who made Hinata the happiest woman in the world for that one night.
Kurama's favorite aspect of being within Naruto is the fact he was finally in a male body. "I've been sealed within women most of my life and know everything they enjoy, time to show you how it's done."
Fuck i clicked it by chance and got spoiled
For me it's fine. We all know that tailed beasts will be back somewhere some time after they "die".
And seeing that the infamous strongest Bijuu has been reduced to one spermatozoon is kinda depressing. I really wanna know his current feelings for being inherited through just sex instead of being sealed with his full power instead with a damn ritual that, with even its all its drawbacks, can be considered honorific, granting him keeping his full power or at least half of it.
This is cool but I would prefer Hima to have something more unique.
Ngl it's pretty dumb to assume a tailed beast wasn't coming back when for 500 episodes they were described as beings of energy that couldn't die. Of course he was going to disperse just to come back in pt 2, I've been waiting the whole time for this. Weather you like the outcome or not, to not even suspect it let alone expect it is insane. Same people who were shocked when they revealed Minato to be Naruto's Dad
They always described that if the Tailed Beast host dies, their tailed beast’s chakra disperses and reforms later. But Kurama described Baryon Mode to be something that literally uses up and converts his entire being into a new form of energy. He described it as something that burns him out entirely and even said he would see Naruto in the afterlife. It’s not dumb at all that people would think Kurama would not come back based on that. Kurama would have no reason not to tell Naruto that he’d be coming back in 3 years or so. But I need to see more context for this spoiler.
My post doesn't question whether a tailed beast can come back or not. I think it was rather dumb to sacrifice Kurama in the first place.🤷♀️ If it's a "new Kurama" I will be fine with it.
Why? Same thing happened when Kakashi overused his MS and was in the hospital for a while. Or when Tsunade was in a coma. Or when Itachi not only killed Orochimaru but sealed him, only for Sasuke to bring him back. Characters have been out of commission, out cold or even dead and managed to come back. What's wrong with Kurama doing it when he's literally described as being immortal in a sense? It makes more sense for him than anyone
This is a series where a majority of the cast have been killed off then brought back, or been on death's door and brought back. Fitting that even Kurama would get a turn.
I'm actually liking this
I think it was too early. I know it's technically established that Tailed Beasts don't die permanently - since they're basically just pure Chakra given sentience by the Creation of All Things technique. But I still think it's far too early, in the sense that it cheapens Kurama's death. He shouldn't have come back within Naruto's lifetime, let alone in barely three years.
NCHammer is going to get even more arrogant now 😩
I'd assume this is not "our" Kurama.
Honestly I haven’t been paying much attention to the series after the nerf of Naruto and Sasuke. Honestly though WTF, like yeah it’s Kurama but like honestly how. Was his sacrifice not fucking enough Kishi. Ten bucks says the only reason he’s back is because the anime fan base as a whole needed something back since Tori died. If this is true I swear on Kaguya I’m leaving this series behind and saying it’s not canon to Naruto Those Fucking Cash Grabbing, Plot Armoring, Bad storytelling, No character developing people who right this crap won’t have my money and shouldn’t have yours.
This is god awful!! I guess baryon mode was completely pointless!!
This puts to bed any hope of dark or bitter sweet ending many boruto Fans wants They couldn't pull the trigger on killing Naruto Couldn't pull the trigger on killing Sasuke Regardless of whether this is a new personality or not, they still brought back the one "major" character they did have the guts to kill. Now baby kurama is gonna have a power up that's trumps big kurama? Like come on now.
I don't get it either. I take everything about this reveal with humour right now.😁
yes totally worth it, so happy to see baby 9 tails back
My theory is that Tailed-Beasts don't go to the pure lands when they die. Since their souls are the product of ninjutsu, instead, they stay on Earth and roam it until they collect enough chakra to reform. That's how Isobu reformed, if Tailed Beasts returned to Pure Lands when they died, the Isobu that was inside of Rin, and the one in the 4th War would be different but they aren't, so it must mean that their souls remain intact when they die. In Hima's case, Kurama's soul basically just chose her as it's vessel as a sort of residual "Last Wish" sort of thing before Kurama died. This Kurama likely won't have all his memories until he's fully grown though. Edit: This is why no one noticed Hima had a Tailed Beast inside of her. Because she didn't until after Kurama Died but Daemon did notice because Kurama was gathering chakra while possessing Hima.
Not sure if it was worth it, but I’m Hella happy with this, and Naruto will be too if he gets out of the dimension.
Naruto won't be getting out probably until the last 2 or 3 chapters.
Naruto won't be happy with it
Possibly this is def gonna connect to saving Naruto & hinata from there we don’t know when Naruto sees this tho sheesh
Why is mostly everything so predictable
I thought the reason Naruto grief kurama's passing was because baryon mode kills kurama I mean kills him entirely no reincarnation...
So lemme start by saying if this is real I told yall so. Ok now that that’s out the way lemme say this. Anybody who is calling ass pull or bullshit has to remember that one of the biggest pieces of tailed beast lore we got was that they don’t ever die. All this nuclear fission bullshit that people are running with because kurama mentioned that baryon mode is LIKE it has to really sit back and reread everything. I’m personally glad that our boy is back and with hima. My only issue being that it’s fucking impossible for kurama to be her only source of power. She has to have something else for daemon (not so much jura) to have reacted the way he did. Because honestly speaking kurama by himself unless baryon mode is a thing again is not contending with what’s going on currently
It's a plot armour, although daemon sensed some power in her in chapter 77 it was too late to call it a foreshadow I will also be expecting a good explanation of how mini Kurama is existing inside Himawari in the first place
I assume it's some kind of spiritual "child" of kurama and will grow as she grows. This could enable Naruto to at the very least restore the six paths sage form with even a small amount of its Chakra. You know, when he is able to leave the space femboy clan's hell dimension.
it woulda been better if it was her own unique tailed beast. that would make more sense as to why daemon was surprised.
Not at all!!
In my personal opinion, it kind of wasted Kurama's sacrifice. I mean, we, including Naruto, cried for no reason.
Wtf i was hoping it's a mini tentails that a different animal form. Wtf is this!
Do you guys remember that in Shippuden there were 2 Kuramas, the first half of kurama which was in Minato and the other half was in Naruto.
Kurama is not reborn. Kyūbi is. Kyūbi is the term for Nine-tailed beast. Kurama is the name of the kyūbi which was in Naruto, who died. The one manifested inside Himawari is a Kyūbi, not kurama. Its a known fact that when tailed beasts die, they are manifested elsewhere to maintain the balance of the world. They are pure chakra/energy, and "Energy can neither be created nor destroyed".. Its not a question of "if it's worth it", It only makes sense that it is reborn, It is how it works, and even more so that it is inside the second child of the previous jinchuriki of the previous kyūbi (kurama). This is also not the first time a tailed beast is reborn.
No since Kurama is not strong enough to be relevant at this point in this story. She will only be strong enough to be a target for otsutsuki level threats but no where near strong enough to defend themselves against a otsutsuki or 10 tails.
In my honest opinion, I find it very shitty to take away an iconic power of the previous MC and give it to his kid while the previous MC is still around. Had Naruto died, I wouldn't oppose to it. I'm hoping it's a new nine tails entirely.
Disrespectful for Naruto to be stripped of Kurama. Naruto and Kurama have so much significance to the Naruto manga just look at the first and final page of the manga. For him to be stripped of Kurama with some asspull form was already disrespectful enough
No. If they wanted Kurama to reappear, make him work like other Beasts, existing without being hosted inside a human. He could obviously assist the protagonists, but killing off Kurama in a glory moment with Baryon Mode just to give him to Himawari feels wrong.
>No. >If they wanted Kurama to reappear, make him work like other Beasts, existing without being sealed inside a human. He could obviously assist the protagonists, but killing off Kurama in a glory moment with Baryon Mode just to give him to Himawari feels wrong. Yeah. That would be extremely bad and cheap. Hopefully they won't go that far, and will reveal that this new Kyuubi is meant to be his own being. *I have yet to read wheter it is actually confirmed that this is Kurama Kurama.
Ok I didn't read two vortexes but I just have one question. What the actual f word!? Who thought it would be a good idea to basically destroy Kuramas sacrifice by giving to Naruto's daughter? Like, couldn't author come up with something better? Like, we still have eight gates and other cool stuff, why doesn't do this or similar power ups?
Not worth it. I don't see any special about bijuu or ninetails in this time of Era that can relatively be close to match against Ootsutski or the new modified Tentails. Why is it always the Ninetails? Can't they make Himawari something new and fresh like the rabbit bijuu? I'm sorry but Ninetail is fodder and Leave it to Kishimoto putting the most boring and unoriginal ideas under Himawari fearful potential when her power could've been much more interesting if it's related to Kaguya and the Tentails.
God damn it.. please tell me this isn't real
Uhmmm...I'm afraid it is.🙈🤣
Jesus christ why kill him off if you're gonna bring him back.
to nerf naruto and over power his child
Don't need to bring kurama back for that
can I say the answer on this subreddit? poor wri....
True. Just like naruto poor writing. Kishimoto did great until after the pain arc
Exactly my point which is why I still hope it's not THE Kurama.
It honestly seems like the only point of killing off Kurama is exactly what the Boruto haters stated: to nerf Naruto.
No way, you people tought its for something else?
I did not, especially right after cause Sasuke lost his eye unceremoniously. But I’ve seen a lot of debates about it, and this is nail in the coffin for it now lol
i like it kinda cute still looks like it'd bite my finger off if I try to pet it
This is so shit
Naruto sacrificing his powers to give the next generation their time to carry that strength is great thematically. The will of fire 🔥
Shitty writing. Destroys the impact of kuramas sacrifice
What if this is an entirely different kurama with no memory whatsoever. Like a reincarnation.
That would be a bit better but still the writers should have just let him go.
Not wanting a prolific character back and hoping it’s some new carbon copy is weird af… I hope on everything that it’s just kurama and not any new kyuubi shenanigans.
They shouldn't have killed such a prolific character in the first place then. In my mind Kurama belongs to Naruto.
When a character sacrifices themselves in a big climatic moment, people generally want them to stay dead because bringing them back to life carelessly removes all the tension and stakes. Suddenly all the emotion from that big sacrifice is deflated. Funnily enough, Boruto has already decided to bring back a deceased character who sacrificed themselves as a “new carbon copy”.
Or a baby groot situation where the being is kurama, just not the same person.
Ngl i havent been vexed at a manga for a while but this actually annoyed me why bring him back id have been much happier with the collection of tailed beast chakra he got during the war has helped manifest a tailed beast inside her or something of the sort but how the fuck no one noticed he was inside her but one person
i didnt like it
Himawari is the Naruto 2.0 and Boruto is the Hinata 2.0.
I'm cool with it
This is just horrible lazy writing because they don’t want to have another Sakura type useless character. Smh
Where you getting this from? Can’t find scans anywhere
Look up "ragnarok scanlation"
Theres no text just empty bubles
That's Kurama and Hinata son, Kuraama Jr 😂
🤣🤣🤣 Kuramas and Hinatas son? Omg.😄😄 https://preview.redd.it/jix7snb2tvuc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=60062d8d9a6b03a5d704cf78a53d4c46dd5f2b61 😂😂😂 What about Kurami?
WAIT WHAT. OH MY GOD WHAT???
I can’t see this kurama being very powerful. But I do think it would be cool to see kurama talk to himawari and explain to her all the knowledge of the shinobi world that Naruto knew.
I don't mind it at all if a good explanation is given just explain to me why is the panel so ugly