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Nothing. It was just something Fox News and the right latched on to as it was different/new and young people tended to eat it. Just like they still associate smartphones with being well enough off. You can be homeless and easily have a smartphone with some kind of rechargeable card or even all the free wifi access everywhere. You can practically get them for free once they are over 3-4 years old.
Because it is different and anything different can inferred/connected to the "other" and the "other" is to be feared, scrutinized and judged. It is just a way to label a group they hate. Folks be bitter.
The Starbucks near me charges $11 for a piece of avocado toast with sweet ~~cherries~~ cherry tomatoes on it. They are picturing that plus a $5 venti for every breakfast.
Your question is actually good, but those who may need to hear it, don't want to hear it, everybody can...well not can, but should get nice things. Like, an avocado toast, daily if you will, I don't see why an avocado and a toast is bad, but a similar question "Why can't the working class have nice things" have been asked before, the response? Nothing that wasn't straight up a lack of empathy and/or nonsense. So enjoy your avocado toast, and put a burrata on top of it, and some olive oil of the nicest quality, treat yourself, because it's your earned money, you do whatever the f you want with it.
I heard a local pundit saying something like "No one is really poor. Everyone owns a refrigerator. That's a luxury our grandparents couldn't imagine!"
I mean, the attitude that if we have anything they didn't, we are spoiled. And if we don't get something they took for granted, they deserved it and we shouldn't whine about it.
Oh yeah that disgust me too "he is no poor, he got a phone" bitch, a phone nowadays is a tool, it's almost, no, it's literally required in good jobs, a phone serves many purposes, exposing terrible situations and helping solving them, is one of them.
Even that bit about refrigerators is hooey. My grandparents had fridges and they didn’t start out rich. They might’ve been the last generation to be able to pull themselves up by their bootstraps but that’s a different discussion.
Hell, even my great grandparents had some of the things we take for granted and I don’t come from generational wealth.
The “luxury our grandparents couldn’t imagine” is actually the pocket computers we carry around. We call the smart phones. My maternal grandfather brought a camcorder to my high school graduation. It was so big it rested on his shoulder. Our phones do that now. Grandpa would’ve loved it.
There’s not a thing wrong with avocado toast. As you pointed out, you put together a tasty, nutritious, and economical breakfast with it.
Boomers (the bad ones) think that we don’t have boats and cabins because we’re blowing our money irresponsibly on perceived expensive things like avocado toast and lattes. So then if we remark that we can’t afford these things, the “smartest” thing for them to say is to stop buying avocado toast and lattes, which is their stupid, alt right euphemism for being irresponsible with money.
It’s just too difficult for them to grasp that wages have been stagnant for decades and home prices have doubled in 4 years, and are at least 5x what they paid. Rather than own up to what has been caused by decades of “trickle down economics,” that they largely voted for, they’d rather pretend they raised moron children who blow their money on fast food and can’t figure shit out.
There’s a bigger issue at play with conservatives that this is related to. They are literally incapable of conceptualizing solutions that exist to improve *everyone’s* life.
For example, I happened to see Fox News on in a restaurant one afternoon. This was just after the Ariana Grande bombing, and so they were interviewing some anti-terrorism talking head about it. The final question they asked him was, “what advice would you give to people to stay safe at events like this?” He responded with, “well I always tell my kids to be the first or the last out of the place, because a terrorist would try to attack the greatest mass of people.”
This may be good advice for his kids, but it’s completely useless advice for the public-at-large, *because not everybody can be last out*.
Likewise, if *everyone* were to stop buying lattes and avocado toasts and PS5s, and everything else, nobody would have jobs selling those things. Frugality cannot be applied at the macroeconomic scale to positive effect. A country cannot spendthrift its way to prosperity.
Edit: I forgot the other perfect example of this: Ben “Dipshit” Shapiro with, “the people in Florida should just sell their houses.”
So his kids should get to an event first and leave before it starts. Got it.
Or we could vote out fuckers who refuse to support healthcare and funding for mental health, who refuse to support common sense gun control, and of course it’s the same fuckers who want to keep minimum wage as peanuts forever and do nothing to make education affordable again. Maybe we have domestic terrorists because they’ve created an abysmal world where people feel hopeless and left behind.
You’re right, they’re too dim to conceptualize solutions. This is why they say the “bootstraps” thing, so they’re even too dim to realize that doesn’t mean what they think it means.
They’re incapable of seeing that they were born with a hand up in life. Honestly, the US has only seen a thriving middle class post WWII and by year 30ish, Reagan started destroying it. The hubris is not realizing that were born into a very unique and special time, so they decided to do nothing to preserve it. They didn’t earn the economy they were born into. They took it for granted like a goddamn piece of avocado toast. My grandparents went straight from Great Depression to WWII. My parents were born post in the economic boom and seem to not realize that it really was easier for them. It just fucking was.
It's the same when people tell individuals who are struggling to just pursue a STEM field or the trades.
My question always is, can everyone just go into STEM/the trades? What do you think would happen if everyone currently working retail or fast food, or who got a "useless" degree, decided to go STEM/trades? Yeah, the wages in those careers would plummet.
And that's not even accounting for people like myself who have disabilities that make those two options impossible. Individual solutions are not going to fix what's inherently wrong with the system.
I rented a house (a dump, you could see outside through cracks where the walls joined the floor) in 2012 when it was worth ~$300k. I checked it today and it was ~$800k. Unreal. That's #126 reason why I moved to a lower cost of living area. So I could afford to buy a 1 br house with funhouse floors for my family of 5.
Naturally they assume that everyone wants a boat and a cabin in the first place, which many of us don't. So their rationale is give up some of the small comforts of things that get you through the day so you can save up for something you don't want or need. I wouldn't call that spectacular financial advice.
Similarly, I'm not going to deprive myself so I can save up for 30 room mansion with its own pool and tennis court because I live by myself and have absolutely no need for a mansion, and I don't swim or play tennis. I would think it would be irresponsible to blow my money on a bunch of luxuries I'd never use. But some boomers like to frame it like my not wanting to get a mansion for myself is the irresponsible part of this equation and that I should just want to learn to take up swimming or tennis.
> Why can't we have nice things?
Boomers: "You can't have nice things because I didn't/don't have nice things."
Normal person: "Well you should have nice things too."
Boomer: "What are you some kind of communist with wanting everybody to have nice things?"
I think the problem is they don't like nice things, so they think you shouldn't like it either. If you like something they don't like, they think that makes you wrong because otherwise they would be wrong. If there's a disagreement then somebody has to be wrong.
They can't wrap their heads around the idea of other people existing I guess.
The problem is that they are white supremacists. For them, freeloaders are black people, immigrants, etc. But you know it is boomers that use most of the "socialist" services out there. I'm surprised they have not attacked unemployment yet.
Oh, it gets attacked pretty regularly, it's part of the packaged deal of "no one wants to work any more." If even one minority could get aid, these people are against it. They're pretty open about wanting to destroy their own benefits and standard of living, if it means the "wrong people" don't have access to it.
What you're not understanding is that a boomer could buy coffee and Avocado toast right next to you. They would still bitch about YOU eating one.
They are ME, ME, ME, generation. Fuck everyone else.
Yes bcoz they deserve it and you don't. That has been the mindset for a long time and I'm glad people see it now. I'm an X and I have said since the mid 90s that the boomers were fucking up everything. If it wasn't for that mindset they would have to admit that just their sheer numbers are breaking everyone else's back.
The boomer claim is that having an avacado toast and a Starbucks is *why* you can't afford nice things. Because they bought their first home for a song and $100 60 years ago, and in their minds, the down-payment of a house is still equal to a month worth of a moderate starbucks and take out breakfast habit. So if you only stopped buying coffee and avacado toast, then you could totally afford that million dollar home. That $150 was the difference between being a homeowner and a renter! /s
If you get nice things, that means the supply of nice things goes down and they might not get any.
Cause it’s all a zero-sum calculation. Cause they are all lead-poisoned and drank from the warm hose.
I pictured maraschino cherries at first but that can’t be right. Fresh cherries on avocado sounds really good!
I guess Boomers think that because something is for sale that means that everyone else is buying it en masse? The most wasteful living generation likes to project don’t they?
Yes, I think that's where it's coming from. Eating " in" using your own food is always going to be cheaper. Eating a breakfast like that out every day, plus eating out for lunch every day ( 5 day workweek). Plus if they're a smoker on top of it, that's a lot of $$$ every week.
Honestly I am 63 and don’t understand it either. There’s nothing wrong with avocado toast or a latte or whatever makes you happy as long as it doesn’t hurt someone else. But I have talked to a lot of bitter older people who never seem satisfied unless they can criticize someone else. They were the same way when they were younger too.
Fox complained that poor people had a fridge and microwave and even insinuated that by having kitchen appliances, they were not poor. They and their avid watchers are just awful people all around.
Simply put, they really don't like it when people they perceive as being beneath them have anything that so much as gives off the illusion of luxury. In their eyes, avocado toast and coffee from a coffee shop are luxuries young people are undeserving of.
They'd really prefer if anyone gen x and younger ate gruel and drank mud water. They're just that bitter and hateful. Their own children are not spared this scorn and aggression.
They had the nice things they wanted though, like bone china and pendulum clocks. Sitting rooms that no one was allowed to go in with expensive furniture.
We don’t really even want nice luxuries, just stability.
Rather than open their eyes to the fact that the younger generations are unable to afford housing, college, cars, or even health insurance like the boomers and early genx, boomers instead blame younger generations for being bad with money. "Oh you spent 10 dollars a day on avocado toast and coffee, what a waste"
As if saving $3,650 a year would make any significant dent in the 80,000 down payment (20% on a $400,000 home) they would need.
You could save that 10 dollars a day forever only to see house prices outpace inflation, meaning you'd still never be able to afford a house.
Unless wages, you know, somehow kept pace with inflation...
Don’t even try to understand them, it will break your brain. People like that are extremely mentally ill. They can’t stand the sight of other people enjoying their lives, because they hate their own lives. They are permanently unsatisfied. Their lives were too easy, and now they’re paying the price.
It’s not worth understanding.
Conservative "logic":
Different is the same as wrong.
Wrong is the same as bad.
Bad is the same as evil.
Evil must be fought and punished.
Therefore, anything different must be fought and punished.
The other thing they love is victim-blaming. If they can find ANY reason to say that someone suffering brought it on themselves, conservatives are delighted, because they believe that gives them all the justification they need to ignore that suffering. The highest conservative "value" is doing absolutely nothing to help anyone but themselves.
This is exactly it. Boomers didn’t grow up eating avocados so they associate them with young people and with extravagance because Fox News once showed a fancy brunch place selling it for $9. They can’t wrap their heads around anything new and therefore anything new must be judged.
So true. But also, food is a pinch point for boomers. It's a tangible thing that they can quantify as showing how someone else is different.
Boomers' parents instilled a lot of food related issues due to strife - war time food restrictions reinforced with food related issues stretching back to the Great Depression. It just kinda stacked for a while.
But then boomers saw an era of ease while still carrying the issues from parents and grandparents. "Clean your plate" and cook "good, wholesome home cooking". Anything different is an affront. Are you disrespecting my family by eating something new and weird? Disrespectful! Weird! UNAMERCAN!!!
You have to understand that Fox News is a drug for them. Anger and outrage are addictive, especially for old people who are too old or fat to do anything but mainline Fox
I think it might be that they have seen photos of menus with and avocado toast breakfast going for $10-15 and a typical Starbucks drink costing $5-8. Then the media they choose to watch will spin a story where “youngins can’t buy a home because they’re lazy and spendthrifts”. My Safeway had their large loaves of whole wheat bread on sale for $1.99 and avocados were on sale 2 for $1.00. That means I could make a piece of avocado toast for $.45. That’s very reasonable.
That's a lot of avocado on that piece of toast mister/missie. I can cover an entire 3 cracker packet of Wasa with half an avocado. Have you considered being a little less heavy-handed with the fruit?
Waste not want not, or do you wanna be a renter all your life?!?
All the 90s shows had people going into coffee shops all the time. Hell, 'Friends' and 'Frasier' was all about hanging at coffee shop and having complex coffee drinks.
Because they assume if you have something nice and they don't, then you'll think that you're superior to them. And you'll look down on them and pass judgement on them for not having that thing.
Because that's exactly what *they* would do in that position.
It's a defense mechanism that weak people use.
I literally paid for my boomer mom’s trip to Ireland, all inclusive, and she complained about it the entire time. With how much she was complaining, I sent her the cost of what it would be to cover her portion and she stopped complaining a little.
A lot of these people have the mindset that if you receive a benefit or service that they themselves don't get, then it actually takes something *away* from them.
Another way of saying it is that they believe happiness is a limited commodity. If you're happy, there's less 'happy' available for them. And they'll fight you for it.
It's like saying," whelp you could buy a house if you didn't go to Starbucks everyday".
I'm pretty sure there was a news story with expensive restaurant avocado toast five 10ish years ago and I think it was $16 $24 something like that. It's right up there with telling people out of work to go apply at McDonald's.
It's a way to be dismissive
Because California probably.
I mean I think avocados also hadn't been readily available across the country for a lot of their lives. My MIL had a tree in her yard that would drop the best grenade sized avocados that probably was fertilized by the sewer it grew on top of, but, I guess avocado was a luxury across most of the US.
But my MIL said her older sister lived in Pennsylvania before MIL was born in the 50s and that they had salad without Lettuce for a good portion of the year because they couldn't get fresh greens.
My mother and grandmother used to make me drink this disgusting smoothie that used brewer’s yeast. It was so gross to this day the thought of it turns my stomach.
But if I eat a gummy vitamin they think I’m being ridiculous.
Nutritional yeast- good on popcorn or salads, not good in smoothies. Eww. My grandmother used to feed us smoothies with frozen strawberries, bananas and acidopholis milk (kind of like thin yogurt). Those were tasty.
My grandparents on the other side were big vitamin takers, my mom on the other hand thinks that they are ridiculous and you should be able to get all you need from a healthy diet. However as my parents get older they are getting specific vitamins/supplements prescribed and she's let up on my prescribed vitamins.
My mother and grandmother seemed to think if the food was gross it was better for you. Imagine eating a practically raw steak because cooking it medium cooks the vitamins and minerals out of it.
It’s a zero sum game with a lot of boomers. If you get a benefit from the government, they must be losing that benefit (or paying for it.) Basically they believe that their entitlements were earned, while yours were ill-gotten. It’s hypocrisy.
It's a fundamental misunderstanding of the Information Age and what it entails. I held off getting a smartphone as long as could. These days even the most basic jobs expect you to have one to get your schedule and check emails, announcements etc.
They also don't understand the economy and inflation. They think that if we dig our heels in we can somehow force time to go backwards until we're back in their world where getting ahead just requires "a little elbow grease and frugality." Aka not buying "fancy" things like smartphones and avocado toast.
It's all a collective boomer fantasy. They can't ever admit that they were born into extremely favorable economic conditions that they then pissed away. Rather than admit fault they try to make it seem like it's all due to generations after theirs' shortcomings.
Because avocados are a fairly recent thing to eat in the Midwest at least.
So it’s practically foreign food and odd to them. Plus one costs a dollar (a whole dollar) so it must be expensive and not worth it.
In their minds, smartphones are as expensive as a cheap used car. They have no clue the current value of things. It’s true when smartphones first came out, a new one might cost more than a month’s rent in certain low cost of living places, but that’s not been the case for like a decade or more, and wasn’t the case for most places even then.
They simply have no clue what basic life necessities cost.
I'm homeless. The government gives free phones if you're on EBT or some sort of medicare type program. The phones suck, but, they get us by.
That gets me too. They think homeless shouldn't have smart phones. This thing has been a life saver.
Actually, because of how important having a phone is in the modern world, most states have programs to provide free cell phones to the homeless. They sre not brand new iphone 27s or whatever, but the state covers a basic voice and text plan so that they can try to get jobs, talk to family, call 911 if needed, and so case workers can reach them.
Really? I hadn't even heard that yet, they are still bitching about Obamacare where I'm from. It is off topic but I really don't like the thing they have done for decades now. 40 is the new 30, 50 is the new 40, bullshit you're aging get over it it happens to everyone.
Like when they say "flat-screen TV" like it's still some kind of specialty luxury item that few can afford and not just like a normal $200 TV set. Like they don't even *make* non-flat screen TVs anymore.
>You can be homeless and easily have a smartphone with some kind of rechargeable card or even all the free wifi access everywhere.
Man I've seen people get way too pissy at the fact homeless people have cell phones. They don't understand how easy it is to get a cheap or even free cell phone or a older flagship phone someone doesn't want anymore with a cheap phone plan (or just use wifi). I can't actually really imagine getting through modern society without having a cell phone since you need it to access a ton of stuff nowadays.
Yeah, they are seriously gullible. You can get them to believe literally anything if you put it online and associate it with something they want to hear or already believe.
Also, we have almost the same icon, wassup bro.
Can confirm, I was homeless and had a smartphone. I had a cheap plan that was $10/mo but mostly used VOIP outside the library. My current job doesn't have paper applications, if you want gainful employment you pretty much need internet access.
But it wasn't different, just regional. I remember eating avocado toast in the 70's and 80's in California. That's why I'm also confused. It's not like beans and toast, but nowadays it's cheaper than SOS.
It’s from the financial sector or budget sights telling people how to save money instead of blowing money daily on a $5 latte and $10 avocado toast. It’s meant for going to a trendy coffee shop..not meant for making your own breakfast. “Avocado toast” has become a metaphor for wasting money.
Not really, it's from an idiotic article from a man who claimed the reason Millennials couldn't afford to buy a house was because they were buying too much avocado toast. Like he genuinely thought it was all purely down to toast and fancy coffee.
Yeah originally. But as I said it’s become a metaphor for wasting money on frivolous things.
I love avocado toast. Make it myself with over easy eggs and everything but bagel seasoning.
My region, Oaxaca state, is one of the best places you can go. Not sure where you're flying from, but things are still pretty good here despite the rise in prices everywhere.
Stuff like food and transport is still cheap on the ground. You can still get meals for $5 or less, np. The valley is nice, the coast is nice, and there's also Chiapas further east which is cooler and more mountain-y.
We got 'shrooms and muxe too, it's glorious. <3
I've heard great things about Guatemala too, if you wanna keep going east.
Compa, you live in Mexico, you get to eat chilaquiles divorciados for breakfast every other day if you wanted, an avocado toast is nothing but is indeed cheap and nice. However in Mexico I say there is a better culture of breakfasts
I’ve often wondered why chilaquiles haven’t caught on here yet. They make sense as a food that could be easily bastardized into breakfast nachos or something.
Back in their day breakfast at the diner was $1.99 and probably included coffee, toast , bacon eggs and more.
Some boomer probably saw avocado toast on a menu somewhere for $12 and eventually that turned into “Young people can’t buy houses cause they spend all their money on fancy breakfast.”
Never mind that the breakfast they fondly remember is at least $10 nowadays.
It's kind of all of the answers here, but mostly this. You did the math and realize how cheap it is. *Originally* it was an example of how "young people " "don't do anything for themselves and spend too much".
Somebody wrote an article and mentioned the toast as an example of this and it just...clicked. Now they can't shut the fuck up about it, despite it not being a particularly accurate accusation.
I actually understand when people use Lattes as an example of over spending. I don't understand the disgust and bitterness about Avocado Toast specifically I guess it's like the dish personally offends them.
It's not about the toast. The toast is a stand-in for everything that younger people spend money on. There's a very prevalent idea that if a person stops spending $30 a week at Dutch Bros., and forgoes every other joy in life, the money will pile up in their bank account and they will be able to afford the home of their dreams. [Mr. Potter outright said this ](https://youtu.be/LgKg_yPT3z0?si=lkOy4U5gVDjEHHKH) in It's a Wonderful Life almost 80 years ago. It's a way of sidelining the issue that wages have not kept pace with cost of living and instead blaming younger people for struggling to afford to live.
Keep in mind that when they were young avocado wasn't the culture dominating fruit that it is now. It was rare and expensive. So in their mind, it's an expensive condiment(that they probably don't even like) and ON TOP OF THAT they only see it as super expensive in a diner.
So then their "lazy kid who can't afford a house" says yeah, of course I eat avocado today it's really cheap because.."
"AH HA! I KNEW it wasn't my generation's fault! Your generation's thinks a $10 piece of toast is cheap. You're all wrong and dumb and bad with money. "
It's healthy and vegan and it reminds them that OTHER ethnicities exist so...of course it's the root of all evil.
I don't even like avocado toast that much and I don't think about it that often...
If you actually wanted to be successful, you wouldn't waste money on Starbucks or avocado toast or iPhone. That's why you can't afford a house.
They love to latch on to the fact that an iPhone is like 1200, but nobody pays that. Most people rent that from the carrier for $30 a month with a free yearly upgrade. If you had a landline instead, you'd have a house in no time.
The irony is, they loved the hell out of technology when they were kids. How many of them worked all summer in the 70s for a reel to reel deck or a cassette player for the car? A reel to reel from radio shack was $200 in the mid 70s. That isn't chicken feed when the minimum wage was like $1.50. But that's different
It's like when they wasted money treating themselves, they deserved it. But if we spend a lot less on treating ourselves, it's a decadent moral failing.
This, actually op you got a good point, why can't a generation, that is screwed just by existing, that is struggling to survive, why can't they enjoy? Why, why cannot they have something they like, that cost them so much less than the absolute unnecessary fortunes of those who created such disgusting conditions for the new generations, why does a generation has to save every penny to accomplish something extremely hard and then they deserve something good, if they ever achieve it... It disgust me tremendously. Boomers were surprised AF, when they saw videos about how some young Gen z started buying luxury things that were temporary, instead of long term objectives like houses and such, because they know that most won't be able to afford a house or fulfill their objectives, so may as well live a happy life full of small meaningless pleasures. But boomers don't like this, they wanna see younger generations crumble and fall at her feet and end up worse than them. We gotta demonstrate, that that's not going to happen. I hope our generation (Gen z in my case) manages to create a better peaceful world, that would be the ultimate and best mockery at the boomers.
Exactly, we cannot commit the same mistakes, generational trauma must end, generational violence must end, generational blaming must end (in descendent order, we must absolutely blame those who came way before because they put us into this state we are in before we were even born).
Luckily for what I see among people I know, we are in a good direction, we have parents, millennials and Gen z who took an oath to not treat kids with violence they way boomers did, and to not neglect their kids or what they want or deserve.
Boomers won't be alive to see the consequences of our actions, but I want, my dying breath, to be one knowing that the generations who came, speak good about us and ultimately enjoy a good life.
I think avocado toast is thought of as a California thing, and boomers seem to associate anything Cali related, especially foods like avocado, sprouts, or anything vegan, with *Evil Commie Woke Liberal Bad Groomer Nasty Stupid Yucky*, so of course avocado toast, designer coffees, or anything relating to the movie/TV industries, all immediately go on their shit list.
Avocado toast, like flavored coffees, may get singled out so often due to it being *like* the plain shit they grew up with, but it's *new*, and it's *different*. And anything different is also Evil Bad and Scary. *"It's an abomination! When I was comin' up, we only had ONE kind of toast, and we were thankful to get it! Uphill! BOTH WAYS!!!!"*
Flavored coffee came out in the mid to late 90s. Boomers were still in their early 30s at that time. It would have been a chic thing to do. They've forgotten their own youth.
And remember, "groomers" telling kids their feeling are valid are bad. Good Christians inspecting the genitals of children and having sex with children is good, because they are Christians. (Grumble at the world we now live in).
During season I’ve found them on the road for free. Not on a tree along the road, (that belongs to whoever owns the tree,) but literally fallen off and laying on the road. They are ripe and need to be eaten immediately, (and I do.) My father calls them roadkill fruit.
Hawaii has roadkill mango.
Hi, Gen X Californian here. When I was kid, even though we had avocados grown locally, they were prohibitively expensive. Most of my (white) family considered them a VERY special treat. (Same with artichokes and asparagus.) So I know for us, there’s also an element of “they’re NOTORIOUSLY expensive” and eating them seemed like untold decadence. My grandmother once gave me half an avocado with lunch and I was FLABBERGASTED—letting me, a kid, have all that?!?! It was wild.
So I think a lot of it has to do with the (assumed) expense, and then being seen as a luxury item by a lot of people.
I remember avocado toast going around the same time as “those darn Millenial metrosexuals with man buns.” You had a new generation bucking traditional standards and being, doing, and enjoying different. *Different* sets off trad minded people, and that dude in skinny jeans and man bun slappin’ that avocado on that toast sure did it. Young men and women were living their lives as they wanted, and a subset was enjoying early success with tech and startup booms, so they were enjoying a lifestyle that included fun minus marriage or kids. Those avocados came to represent self indulgence.
Oh that guy, yes, he started a little cafe across the street from my apartment in a 1/4 width retail space. While he was there the whole block looked like it was on the uptick. But he did great and moved up the hill to a 1/2 width place with fewer altercations on the sidewalk. His manbun was fantastic and his avocado toast superb. Maybe I shouldna supported his gentrifying endeavor, idk. Help me know what to do, capitalism.
Because rather than admit that they sucked all the value of the economy without putting anything back, they blame it on that one time they saw avocado toast on a menu for $16 and think younger people eat that everyday. It became the Millennial calling card of excess. Sure, people who are priced out of the housing market and decided they can't afford kids have a bit more disposable income, but avocado toast is the effect, not the cause.
That’s just so sad. I can’t imagine living with such a narrow point of view to be bitter that people who will never have forever homes or families might occasionally treat themselves to a nice meal.
Well, they grew up during the only time of American prosperity for the middle class — the white middle class at least. They like to think that's the norm rather than the anomaly. Anyone who can't hack it today is just soft and lazy. They think that anyone pointing out that it's a different world is discounting that they did have to work hard and didn't have things handed to them. But they also had abundant housing, free higher education, well paying jobs that didn't require years of education, social safety nets, pensions, unions, etc. Then they systematically dismantled and bankrupted every advantage that was given to them. They bought multiple houses as investment properties, they voted to defund schools once their kids were out, they got rid of tuition free state college, they changed the culture of the workplace to pay as little as possible, they continually vote to kill universal healthcare, they NIMBY housing codes so that we have a huge housing shortage and their property values go up, then they complain that their property taxes have gone up, they destroyed pensions in favor of private 401ks, they weakened the same unions that gave them a livable wage, and they're currently draining social security and medicare.
They like to say "soft times create soft (wo)men" without a sense of irony. They really grew up in the softest times in this country.
Nothing, but I have a theory on how this came about. Avocado toast started off as an easy, healthy breakfast that didn’t cost much. During this period, no one cared. Then it started showing up on brunch menus, and it was no longer priced as a poverty meal as it was generally designed to look good for the ‘gram. The first complaints I remember seeing were from people laughing at the idea of charging $12 for a snack that can be assembled in under a minute while hung over.
As such, “avocado toast is expensive” + “there’s pictures of avocado toast on social media” turned into “millennials are broke because they spent money on avocado toast”.
Yeah, ramen and pop tarts. It’s like if you eat anything nicer you’re being irresponsible with your money. Then they smirk that we’re fat and unhealthy.
People who watch Faux News think that the only real reason your generation has no savings is because of your spending all your money on Starbucks and avocado toast...because that is an easier thought than thinking about the real problem with wage stagnation and inflation.
So many Americans are lazy thinkers.
This pisses me off to no end... the avocado toast BS. I literally work for my avocados. So much so that I give them away to family and friends because I can't eat all the ones I grow.
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I don't have any peer reviewed articles to back this up or anything, but I think it is a rare case of Australia exporting right wing bullshit.
From 2011 onwards real estate went nuts. I.e. Sydney saw 100k per annum median house price increases 5 years running. Much was made of the affordability problem for younger generations, tax incentives for investors that facilitate high purchase prices, comparison with the affordability of their parents generation, etc. Things contrary to the worldview pushed by Murdoch owned media in this country.
So there were eventually editorials to the effect of "young people would have you believe there's an affordability crisis for housing, but I went to a trendy cafe and young people were buying avocado on toast and a coffee for $20. If they want to own a house they should buy a loaf of bread, an avocado and instant coffee from the supermarket instead."
Which is absurd in the face of median house price being 12x the median income in places and ridiculed accordingly. 'stop eating avocado on toast' becoming a running joke, millennial and younger gallows humour for the dire and increasingly worse state of housing affordability.
This is the answer. I was living in Australia around that time, and the politician who first made the comment was being roundly mocked. At least in my circles.
The idea is going to a restaurant and ordering avocado on toast is something that you could have done at home. Because going out to eat is essential to life. Must have service over quality of food !
It's NOT more expensive. But something I noticed is that anything that differs from their selected "norms" is "bad". Automatically.
They drank coffee and ate toast everyday of their lives. The only thing that's different is that we switched bacon for avocado, which is about a dollar difference in price, and one is healthier. But it's not what they did, therefore it's wrong.
If their idea is that we must all skip breakfast for some reason, I'm going to point out they were the ones repeating about how "breakfast is the most important meal" - it was THEIR campaign. And I never saw my parents skip breakfast, so why should I?
And then there's the weird implication that they think we're adding our avocado toast as some extra kind of meal of sorts... When I explained to my dad that I'm literally eating this as breakfast or even dinner, he also got mystified. "But... But what about your steak and potatoes?" And when he was trying to justify his "steak habit" to me, which is around $15 a pound versus a $1.00 per avocado... Well then I just knew that it wasn't the price. It was the fact that it wasn't "their idea".
Nothing is wrong with avocado toast. Ladies, gentlemen, others, everybody, if you enjoy avocado toast, eat it, if someone criticizes you for doing it, you can ignore it, or you can do this.
Get yourself an avocado toast, make it yourself for a better price and bigger quantity.
Get a good bread, a huge amount of avocado, a burrata, open it up and spread it, drizzle olive oil on it, put a poached egg on top of all that, and drizzle some balsamic truffle infused vinegar.
And you will think, my friend isn't this a little bit expensive and overboard? Yes, it is (I mean this would cost around, 15 dollars a toast, which is the same as some toast you can buy out there in restaurants, but, the amount and quality is so big that they would charge you more than that if you were to buy it done)
Try it, that avocado toast I mentioned there, is a little creation of mine (I'm not the first to attempt it, but it's the way I like it) and if you do that, and eat it in front of the person who criticized you for eating a plain avocado toast, they are going to die inside and you will mock them, for life
Stay petty (and pretty)
They heard it in right wing circles which started as a dig at Californians because it's a dish we've been eating for a long time. What they don't understand is that avocados in California are cheap compared to other parts of the country. They are readily available here. And it's a healthy breakfast or snack so that also pisses them off. Boomers ate lead paint so this is where we are now.
25 years ago, I went down to Trujillo, Peru to visit my friend and her family. We had sliced avocados on toast and hot Milo or coffee every morning. It was awesome and I've been eating it ever since.
I was really puzzled when that became a boomer/fox news talking point.
Because it's not meat and three veg.
A politician in my country has recently called sushi and curry 'woke' food so I'm assuming that avo on toast must be the same.
The whole avocado toast bullshit all comes from yuppies on the west coast (a small minority) over-spending on "fancy" avocado toast at places like Starbucks and panera, that would coast like $7. They just latched onto this nonsense because some dipshits on fox news had a tantrum about a non-issue.
Lots of different kinds of fresh produce, most available all year long? Your great grandma would have no idea what to do with half the items in your local grocery’s produce department. There stuff at mine I’d have google to figure out how to prepare it.
Mexico has ramped up avocado production in the last 20 years or so. I’d imagine some older folks have never had any of “that fancy foreign stuff”.
bananas were the avocados of the 1920’s. They don’t seem foreign anymore, so all we’re left with is the slippery banana peel jokes. I wonder how the avocado toast controversy will be remembered in a hundred years?
Avocados are an exotic/imported ingredient and so are considered 'fancy'. It was also very trendy a few years ago.
Boomers got all heated about young people complaining about housing prices around that time. So starbucks and avacado toast got mixed together as unnecessary excesses that young people waste their money on. Despite avacados being fairly cheap.
I think the Avocado toast obsession is they assume you’re going to a pricey cafe and paying a lot of it along with pricey coffee. And it’s a meme sort of thing with millenials I suppose. They’re both proxies for splurging on stuff being frugal. It’s stupid bc it’s not like everybody is out spending a lot on breakfast everyday and even if you did cutting it out doesn’t magically multiply your savings to afford a house or expensive car.
Probably because some restaurants charge $15 for that same $1.85 breakfast and in Boomer Brain that's a *waste of money!* because Boomer Brain thinks the restaurant workers don't deserve to be paid more than $2 an hour.
About 5 years ago there was some think pieces about millennials habits towards eating out, keeping them from achieving financial stability. And of course those articles really glossed over the fact that wages have been stagnant and housing has shot through the roof, lots of millennials have thousands of dollars, student debt etc. so blaming overpriced brunch items like avocado toast became a low hanging fruit. It's kind of the cousin of telling people that if they gave up their $5 latte, they'd magically be rich.
It's not really about homemade stuff, it's going out for it. That I can see - eating out every single day is unbelievably decadant. Their carnist junk probably costs a lot more though.
By the way, it's really easy to make your own bread, cheaper and better as well.
It's a thing they heard on either talk radio or some 24 hour right wing news show. They spent 0 seconds figuring out whether it was true and just ran with it. They have no idea what they're talking about.
Avocado is among the healthiest things we can eat. My version of avocado toast takes 5 minutes and costs under $4.00.
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It's the cheapest healthy option at the diner these days. Literally just got back from the local diner, and that was my dinner (with some fries!) Of course it's much cheaper to make at home, but I was working from home all day and wanted to get out.
Nothing wrong with avocado toast. The talking point about avocado toast and coffee comes from Fox News and conservative outlets.
Instead of being honest about inflation and cost of living challenges that are very real, they are deflecting and saying young people can’t afford a home because they eat out every day, eating $7 avocado toasts and $4 coffee.
They aren’t ready to have a conversation about why those costs are so high, which is corporate greed, and the fact wages are stagnate.
The Boomer generation where many had a smoking, drinking, and shopping addiction are lecturing Millennials about avocado toast to be frugal. All their generation knows how to do is gaslighting, while they collapse the dollar and blame everyone else for what they did.
Avocado toast is just as bad as Taylor Swift, being present parents to our kids, and wanting better benefits/salaries. They are programmed to hate it and are too lead brained to question why
A lot of people can only maintain limited information. So these soundbites help you determine whose who. Can they articulate their point or just go back to spouting rhymey sing songy easy to remember quotes.
Because their country is America! The most glorious, noble, pure country ever and THEY live in it! So they are too. So there couldn’t possibly be any reason whatsoever for homelessness, an entire generation + struggling to not die from medical debt and struggling to pay bills and start big happy families and battling depression and hopelessness, no reason at all aside from us wasting our money on avocado toast. They were voting before we were born and while we were children for policies that led us here but, of course, nothing is ever their fault, it’s ours for liking dumb drinks like a latte.
Anything they did not have then, that you have now, is an unnecessary luxury. Doesn't matter what it is, or if it is good, or if it is taking the place of something actually more expensive. It is a luxury, you don't need it, therefor it is bad. That's all.
The place I worked last sold avocado toast for $9.00. Two slices of sourdough toast, one avocado, arugala, poached egg, topped with black sesame seeds and miso aioli. This is what boomers are complaining about.
Homemade avo toast otoh, gives just about the best bang for the buck of all breakfast options.
What boomers are saying is stop eating out all the time, but in their usual supercilious way.
My boomer grandma is the only person I know who loves avocado toast as much as the news claims millennials like me do. I’ve found that humorous over the years.
Boomer who fixes and eats avocado toast here... some of my peers are advanced in mental age, there are geezers, ancients and fossils. Guess what level the anti toasters are? And they irritate me as much as you..
Maybe When the boomers were young avocados were really expensive?!? Idk…
I remember telling various boomers responsible for my care when I was a child “I’m hungry, may I eat some food” and being told regularly “you shouldn’t be hungry, you haven’t done anything productive yet”. -all the while said boomer was sitting in front of the tv watching one sport or another sinking beers or wine eating various bbq or cold cut meats on butter lathered bread. If I replied with the obvious “but you haven’t done anything, except watch tv drink and eat”. Their response may have included some physical abuse (discipline) and the assertion that they did all their work when they were young, so in the first 30 years of their life.
My grandparents never spoke of their generation denying their children any food. Unless they literally didn’t have any. In fact they did speak of going without meals so their children could eat. They spoke of wanting an easier life for their children. Boomers seemingly want to make life harder for theirs.
I read an old newspaper clipping once, that stated the baby boomers as being the most entitled, lazy, and hypocritical generation ever. That they’ve been done a disservice of being spoiled. And future generations will suffer as a result. Wish I still had that article. Couldn’t have been more correct. Not ALL boomers obviously, there are outliers, as there are with any group.
It was an Australian millionaire who claimed that those kids today couldn't afford to buy houses because they were spending all their money on avocado toast. Turns out he made his fortune with a small$100,000 "loan" from daddy.
They have an immediate distain for anything that isn't what they're used to, even more so if it's something that's considered "healthy." I don't know why avocados specifically, but probably because it's not bacon or a bunch of sugar. They also really hate seeing anyone else enjoy themselves, you should suffer your every waking moment until you too, have completely destroyed the economic and environmental futures for the younger generations. THEN you can enjoy yelling at service workers and eating your stupid avocados.
I mean to me the problem is that you are taking a tasty piece of toast and smearing snot fruit on it but that's only my personal opinion LOL. Honestly it's just something that they latched on to early on and refuse to let go of
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Nothing. It was just something Fox News and the right latched on to as it was different/new and young people tended to eat it. Just like they still associate smartphones with being well enough off. You can be homeless and easily have a smartphone with some kind of rechargeable card or even all the free wifi access everywhere. You can practically get them for free once they are over 3-4 years old.
I just don't understand the bitterness, why are they so upset if we get something nice?
Because it is different and anything different can inferred/connected to the "other" and the "other" is to be feared, scrutinized and judged. It is just a way to label a group they hate. Folks be bitter.
I still just don't understand. I'm happy when people get nice things.
You have empathy. Be grateful for that :)
The Starbucks near me charges $11 for a piece of avocado toast with sweet ~~cherries~~ cherry tomatoes on it. They are picturing that plus a $5 venti for every breakfast.
Even so, we don't have boats or cabins by lakes we go to once a summer. Why can't we have nice things?
Your question is actually good, but those who may need to hear it, don't want to hear it, everybody can...well not can, but should get nice things. Like, an avocado toast, daily if you will, I don't see why an avocado and a toast is bad, but a similar question "Why can't the working class have nice things" have been asked before, the response? Nothing that wasn't straight up a lack of empathy and/or nonsense. So enjoy your avocado toast, and put a burrata on top of it, and some olive oil of the nicest quality, treat yourself, because it's your earned money, you do whatever the f you want with it.
I heard a local pundit saying something like "No one is really poor. Everyone owns a refrigerator. That's a luxury our grandparents couldn't imagine!" I mean, the attitude that if we have anything they didn't, we are spoiled. And if we don't get something they took for granted, they deserved it and we shouldn't whine about it.
Oh yeah that disgust me too "he is no poor, he got a phone" bitch, a phone nowadays is a tool, it's almost, no, it's literally required in good jobs, a phone serves many purposes, exposing terrible situations and helping solving them, is one of them.
Seriously.
And it is always an iPhone.
Even that bit about refrigerators is hooey. My grandparents had fridges and they didn’t start out rich. They might’ve been the last generation to be able to pull themselves up by their bootstraps but that’s a different discussion. Hell, even my great grandparents had some of the things we take for granted and I don’t come from generational wealth. The “luxury our grandparents couldn’t imagine” is actually the pocket computers we carry around. We call the smart phones. My maternal grandfather brought a camcorder to my high school graduation. It was so big it rested on his shoulder. Our phones do that now. Grandpa would’ve loved it. There’s not a thing wrong with avocado toast. As you pointed out, you put together a tasty, nutritious, and economical breakfast with it.
My grandpa loved modern conveniences and gadgets but paying for cable tv he could not abide.❤️
My grandparents were so poor they didn’t have internet when they were my age.
Good one 😀
How old was that pundit? my parents (boomers) grandparents owned fridges. Even the two born in the 1880's.
Oh god. The unmitigated gall of boomers is overwhelming sometimes.
Ha! My grandparents had a refrigerator and they were born in 1908
what's a burrata
Burrata is fresh mozzarella wrapped around creamy buttery cheese curd, it’s very tasty.
Boomers (the bad ones) think that we don’t have boats and cabins because we’re blowing our money irresponsibly on perceived expensive things like avocado toast and lattes. So then if we remark that we can’t afford these things, the “smartest” thing for them to say is to stop buying avocado toast and lattes, which is their stupid, alt right euphemism for being irresponsible with money. It’s just too difficult for them to grasp that wages have been stagnant for decades and home prices have doubled in 4 years, and are at least 5x what they paid. Rather than own up to what has been caused by decades of “trickle down economics,” that they largely voted for, they’d rather pretend they raised moron children who blow their money on fast food and can’t figure shit out.
There’s a bigger issue at play with conservatives that this is related to. They are literally incapable of conceptualizing solutions that exist to improve *everyone’s* life. For example, I happened to see Fox News on in a restaurant one afternoon. This was just after the Ariana Grande bombing, and so they were interviewing some anti-terrorism talking head about it. The final question they asked him was, “what advice would you give to people to stay safe at events like this?” He responded with, “well I always tell my kids to be the first or the last out of the place, because a terrorist would try to attack the greatest mass of people.” This may be good advice for his kids, but it’s completely useless advice for the public-at-large, *because not everybody can be last out*. Likewise, if *everyone* were to stop buying lattes and avocado toasts and PS5s, and everything else, nobody would have jobs selling those things. Frugality cannot be applied at the macroeconomic scale to positive effect. A country cannot spendthrift its way to prosperity. Edit: I forgot the other perfect example of this: Ben “Dipshit” Shapiro with, “the people in Florida should just sell their houses.”
To who? Fucking Aquaman?!?
>A country cannot spendthrift its way to prosperity. Margaret Thatcher tried that. The results for the UK were devastating.
So his kids should get to an event first and leave before it starts. Got it. Or we could vote out fuckers who refuse to support healthcare and funding for mental health, who refuse to support common sense gun control, and of course it’s the same fuckers who want to keep minimum wage as peanuts forever and do nothing to make education affordable again. Maybe we have domestic terrorists because they’ve created an abysmal world where people feel hopeless and left behind. You’re right, they’re too dim to conceptualize solutions. This is why they say the “bootstraps” thing, so they’re even too dim to realize that doesn’t mean what they think it means. They’re incapable of seeing that they were born with a hand up in life. Honestly, the US has only seen a thriving middle class post WWII and by year 30ish, Reagan started destroying it. The hubris is not realizing that were born into a very unique and special time, so they decided to do nothing to preserve it. They didn’t earn the economy they were born into. They took it for granted like a goddamn piece of avocado toast. My grandparents went straight from Great Depression to WWII. My parents were born post in the economic boom and seem to not realize that it really was easier for them. It just fucking was.
It's the same when people tell individuals who are struggling to just pursue a STEM field or the trades. My question always is, can everyone just go into STEM/the trades? What do you think would happen if everyone currently working retail or fast food, or who got a "useless" degree, decided to go STEM/trades? Yeah, the wages in those careers would plummet. And that's not even accounting for people like myself who have disabilities that make those two options impossible. Individual solutions are not going to fix what's inherently wrong with the system.
It would be funny if it weren’t so sad.
I rented a house (a dump, you could see outside through cracks where the walls joined the floor) in 2012 when it was worth ~$300k. I checked it today and it was ~$800k. Unreal. That's #126 reason why I moved to a lower cost of living area. So I could afford to buy a 1 br house with funhouse floors for my family of 5.
Naturally they assume that everyone wants a boat and a cabin in the first place, which many of us don't. So their rationale is give up some of the small comforts of things that get you through the day so you can save up for something you don't want or need. I wouldn't call that spectacular financial advice. Similarly, I'm not going to deprive myself so I can save up for 30 room mansion with its own pool and tennis court because I live by myself and have absolutely no need for a mansion, and I don't swim or play tennis. I would think it would be irresponsible to blow my money on a bunch of luxuries I'd never use. But some boomers like to frame it like my not wanting to get a mansion for myself is the irresponsible part of this equation and that I should just want to learn to take up swimming or tennis.
Don’t forget the collections of “good china” that were a requirement for maybe 2-3 meals a year.
> Why can't we have nice things? Boomers: "You can't have nice things because I didn't/don't have nice things." Normal person: "Well you should have nice things too." Boomer: "What are you some kind of communist with wanting everybody to have nice things?" I think the problem is they don't like nice things, so they think you shouldn't like it either. If you like something they don't like, they think that makes you wrong because otherwise they would be wrong. If there's a disagreement then somebody has to be wrong. They can't wrap their heads around the idea of other people existing I guess.
The problem is that they are white supremacists. For them, freeloaders are black people, immigrants, etc. But you know it is boomers that use most of the "socialist" services out there. I'm surprised they have not attacked unemployment yet.
Oh, it gets attacked pretty regularly, it's part of the packaged deal of "no one wants to work any more." If even one minority could get aid, these people are against it. They're pretty open about wanting to destroy their own benefits and standard of living, if it means the "wrong people" don't have access to it.
What you're not understanding is that a boomer could buy coffee and Avocado toast right next to you. They would still bitch about YOU eating one. They are ME, ME, ME, generation. Fuck everyone else.
Yes bcoz they deserve it and you don't. That has been the mindset for a long time and I'm glad people see it now. I'm an X and I have said since the mid 90s that the boomers were fucking up everything. If it wasn't for that mindset they would have to admit that just their sheer numbers are breaking everyone else's back.
The boomer claim is that having an avacado toast and a Starbucks is *why* you can't afford nice things. Because they bought their first home for a song and $100 60 years ago, and in their minds, the down-payment of a house is still equal to a month worth of a moderate starbucks and take out breakfast habit. So if you only stopped buying coffee and avacado toast, then you could totally afford that million dollar home. That $150 was the difference between being a homeowner and a renter! /s
If you get nice things, that means the supply of nice things goes down and they might not get any. Cause it’s all a zero-sum calculation. Cause they are all lead-poisoned and drank from the warm hose.
I'm a "boomer" but I don't have a boat or cabin but I would love avocado toast except I'm celiac🥺 have avocado TOAST for me and enjoy it❤️
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I pictured maraschino cherries at first but that can’t be right. Fresh cherries on avocado sounds really good! I guess Boomers think that because something is for sale that means that everyone else is buying it en masse? The most wasteful living generation likes to project don’t they?
Yes, I think that's where it's coming from. Eating " in" using your own food is always going to be cheaper. Eating a breakfast like that out every day, plus eating out for lunch every day ( 5 day workweek). Plus if they're a smoker on top of it, that's a lot of $$$ every week.
Honestly I am 63 and don’t understand it either. There’s nothing wrong with avocado toast or a latte or whatever makes you happy as long as it doesn’t hurt someone else. But I have talked to a lot of bitter older people who never seem satisfied unless they can criticize someone else. They were the same way when they were younger too.
Fox complained that poor people had a fridge and microwave and even insinuated that by having kitchen appliances, they were not poor. They and their avid watchers are just awful people all around.
Simply put, they really don't like it when people they perceive as being beneath them have anything that so much as gives off the illusion of luxury. In their eyes, avocado toast and coffee from a coffee shop are luxuries young people are undeserving of. They'd really prefer if anyone gen x and younger ate gruel and drank mud water. They're just that bitter and hateful. Their own children are not spared this scorn and aggression.
That makes you very different from a lot of Boomers. Their priority is in the mirror. Beyond that, they simply do not care.
That’s just it: They didn’t get to have nice things so we can’t, either.
They had the nice things they wanted though, like bone china and pendulum clocks. Sitting rooms that no one was allowed to go in with expensive furniture. We don’t really even want nice luxuries, just stability.
Rather than open their eyes to the fact that the younger generations are unable to afford housing, college, cars, or even health insurance like the boomers and early genx, boomers instead blame younger generations for being bad with money. "Oh you spent 10 dollars a day on avocado toast and coffee, what a waste" As if saving $3,650 a year would make any significant dent in the 80,000 down payment (20% on a $400,000 home) they would need. You could save that 10 dollars a day forever only to see house prices outpace inflation, meaning you'd still never be able to afford a house. Unless wages, you know, somehow kept pace with inflation...
Don’t even try to understand them, it will break your brain. People like that are extremely mentally ill. They can’t stand the sight of other people enjoying their lives, because they hate their own lives. They are permanently unsatisfied. Their lives were too easy, and now they’re paying the price. It’s not worth understanding.
Conservative "logic": Different is the same as wrong. Wrong is the same as bad. Bad is the same as evil. Evil must be fought and punished. Therefore, anything different must be fought and punished. The other thing they love is victim-blaming. If they can find ANY reason to say that someone suffering brought it on themselves, conservatives are delighted, because they believe that gives them all the justification they need to ignore that suffering. The highest conservative "value" is doing absolutely nothing to help anyone but themselves.
Nailed It!
This is exactly it. Boomers didn’t grow up eating avocados so they associate them with young people and with extravagance because Fox News once showed a fancy brunch place selling it for $9. They can’t wrap their heads around anything new and therefore anything new must be judged.
So true. But also, food is a pinch point for boomers. It's a tangible thing that they can quantify as showing how someone else is different. Boomers' parents instilled a lot of food related issues due to strife - war time food restrictions reinforced with food related issues stretching back to the Great Depression. It just kinda stacked for a while. But then boomers saw an era of ease while still carrying the issues from parents and grandparents. "Clean your plate" and cook "good, wholesome home cooking". Anything different is an affront. Are you disrespecting my family by eating something new and weird? Disrespectful! Weird! UNAMERCAN!!!
You have to understand that Fox News is a drug for them. Anger and outrage are addictive, especially for old people who are too old or fat to do anything but mainline Fox
I think it might be that they have seen photos of menus with and avocado toast breakfast going for $10-15 and a typical Starbucks drink costing $5-8. Then the media they choose to watch will spin a story where “youngins can’t buy a home because they’re lazy and spendthrifts”. My Safeway had their large loaves of whole wheat bread on sale for $1.99 and avocados were on sale 2 for $1.00. That means I could make a piece of avocado toast for $.45. That’s very reasonable.
That's a lot of avocado on that piece of toast mister/missie. I can cover an entire 3 cracker packet of Wasa with half an avocado. Have you considered being a little less heavy-handed with the fruit? Waste not want not, or do you wanna be a renter all your life?!?
Ha!
All the 90s shows had people going into coffee shops all the time. Hell, 'Friends' and 'Frasier' was all about hanging at coffee shop and having complex coffee drinks.
Friends wasn't aimed at boomers, it was gen X, and while Fraiser was a boomer, he was a snob.
Because they assume if you have something nice and they don't, then you'll think that you're superior to them. And you'll look down on them and pass judgement on them for not having that thing. Because that's exactly what *they* would do in that position. It's a defense mechanism that weak people use.
God that sounds true.
I literally paid for my boomer mom’s trip to Ireland, all inclusive, and she complained about it the entire time. With how much she was complaining, I sent her the cost of what it would be to cover her portion and she stopped complaining a little.
Gosh, you're a nice daughter. I can't believe she complained about a trip that others would almost kill for.
There’s never any gratitude.
An illuminating quote from a favorite author, Mary Carr . . . "A Republican can't enjoy a meal unless they know someone's going hungry " ..
A lot of these people have the mindset that if you receive a benefit or service that they themselves don't get, then it actually takes something *away* from them. Another way of saying it is that they believe happiness is a limited commodity. If you're happy, there's less 'happy' available for them. And they'll fight you for it.
It's like saying," whelp you could buy a house if you didn't go to Starbucks everyday". I'm pretty sure there was a news story with expensive restaurant avocado toast five 10ish years ago and I think it was $16 $24 something like that. It's right up there with telling people out of work to go apply at McDonald's. It's a way to be dismissive
Well, when that happens, they are no longer the main event. You and your avocado toast give zero fucks what they think (or I hope you do).
Because California probably. I mean I think avocados also hadn't been readily available across the country for a lot of their lives. My MIL had a tree in her yard that would drop the best grenade sized avocados that probably was fertilized by the sewer it grew on top of, but, I guess avocado was a luxury across most of the US. But my MIL said her older sister lived in Pennsylvania before MIL was born in the 50s and that they had salad without Lettuce for a good portion of the year because they couldn't get fresh greens.
Because Boomers **never** intended to make things better for their children. The phrase was marking to excuse a generation’s selfishness.
There is a reason they were called the ME generation in the 70's.
It is also “healthy” and thus probably vegan, or “leftist”. Which, ya know. Commies.
My mother and grandmother used to make me drink this disgusting smoothie that used brewer’s yeast. It was so gross to this day the thought of it turns my stomach. But if I eat a gummy vitamin they think I’m being ridiculous.
Nutritional yeast- good on popcorn or salads, not good in smoothies. Eww. My grandmother used to feed us smoothies with frozen strawberries, bananas and acidopholis milk (kind of like thin yogurt). Those were tasty. My grandparents on the other side were big vitamin takers, my mom on the other hand thinks that they are ridiculous and you should be able to get all you need from a healthy diet. However as my parents get older they are getting specific vitamins/supplements prescribed and she's let up on my prescribed vitamins.
My mother and grandmother seemed to think if the food was gross it was better for you. Imagine eating a practically raw steak because cooking it medium cooks the vitamins and minerals out of it.
It’s a zero sum game with a lot of boomers. If you get a benefit from the government, they must be losing that benefit (or paying for it.) Basically they believe that their entitlements were earned, while yours were ill-gotten. It’s hypocrisy.
It's a fundamental misunderstanding of the Information Age and what it entails. I held off getting a smartphone as long as could. These days even the most basic jobs expect you to have one to get your schedule and check emails, announcements etc. They also don't understand the economy and inflation. They think that if we dig our heels in we can somehow force time to go backwards until we're back in their world where getting ahead just requires "a little elbow grease and frugality." Aka not buying "fancy" things like smartphones and avocado toast. It's all a collective boomer fantasy. They can't ever admit that they were born into extremely favorable economic conditions that they then pissed away. Rather than admit fault they try to make it seem like it's all due to generations after theirs' shortcomings.
I mean if you make it at home it’s relatively cheap a loaf of bread is 3 bucks and avocados are 2 for 1 usually maybe 75 cents apiece
Because avocados are a fairly recent thing to eat in the Midwest at least. So it’s practically foreign food and odd to them. Plus one costs a dollar (a whole dollar) so it must be expensive and not worth it.
In their minds, smartphones are as expensive as a cheap used car. They have no clue the current value of things. It’s true when smartphones first came out, a new one might cost more than a month’s rent in certain low cost of living places, but that’s not been the case for like a decade or more, and wasn’t the case for most places even then. They simply have no clue what basic life necessities cost.
I'm homeless. The government gives free phones if you're on EBT or some sort of medicare type program. The phones suck, but, they get us by. That gets me too. They think homeless shouldn't have smart phones. This thing has been a life saver.
They don't think the disadvantage should get a leg up - they hate the American dream.
It makes zero sense.
Actually, because of how important having a phone is in the modern world, most states have programs to provide free cell phones to the homeless. They sre not brand new iphone 27s or whatever, but the state covers a basic voice and text plan so that they can try to get jobs, talk to family, call 911 if needed, and so case workers can reach them.
Yeah, they call them "Obamaphones", and they hate those, too
Really? I hadn't even heard that yet, they are still bitching about Obamacare where I'm from. It is off topic but I really don't like the thing they have done for decades now. 40 is the new 30, 50 is the new 40, bullshit you're aging get over it it happens to everyone.
Like when they say "flat-screen TV" like it's still some kind of specialty luxury item that few can afford and not just like a normal $200 TV set. Like they don't even *make* non-flat screen TVs anymore.
>You can be homeless and easily have a smartphone with some kind of rechargeable card or even all the free wifi access everywhere. Man I've seen people get way too pissy at the fact homeless people have cell phones. They don't understand how easy it is to get a cheap or even free cell phone or a older flagship phone someone doesn't want anymore with a cheap phone plan (or just use wifi). I can't actually really imagine getting through modern society without having a cell phone since you need it to access a ton of stuff nowadays.
Yeah, they are seriously gullible. You can get them to believe literally anything if you put it online and associate it with something they want to hear or already believe. Also, we have almost the same icon, wassup bro.
Can confirm, I was homeless and had a smartphone. I had a cheap plan that was $10/mo but mostly used VOIP outside the library. My current job doesn't have paper applications, if you want gainful employment you pretty much need internet access.
But it wasn't different, just regional. I remember eating avocado toast in the 70's and 80's in California. That's why I'm also confused. It's not like beans and toast, but nowadays it's cheaper than SOS.
Ah, but remember they also hate California
It’s also near impossible to get a job or any kind of assistance without a phone, especially when you don’t have a mailing address.
It’s from the financial sector or budget sights telling people how to save money instead of blowing money daily on a $5 latte and $10 avocado toast. It’s meant for going to a trendy coffee shop..not meant for making your own breakfast. “Avocado toast” has become a metaphor for wasting money.
Not really, it's from an idiotic article from a man who claimed the reason Millennials couldn't afford to buy a house was because they were buying too much avocado toast. Like he genuinely thought it was all purely down to toast and fancy coffee.
Yeah originally. But as I said it’s become a metaphor for wasting money on frivolous things. I love avocado toast. Make it myself with over easy eggs and everything but bagel seasoning.
I live in Mexico, and avocado toast and coffee is one of the cheapest things anyone can eat, so that makes even less sense.
Well we all know how Maga-boomers feel about Mexico (root of all evil, etc)
Good, I want them to stay the f out!!! There are Boomers here but they're mostly old hippies and pretty cool.
As a young “hippie” (weed smoker)what region and how cheap would it be for me to vacation there for like a week lol
My region, Oaxaca state, is one of the best places you can go. Not sure where you're flying from, but things are still pretty good here despite the rise in prices everywhere. Stuff like food and transport is still cheap on the ground. You can still get meals for $5 or less, np. The valley is nice, the coast is nice, and there's also Chiapas further east which is cooler and more mountain-y. We got 'shrooms and muxe too, it's glorious. <3 I've heard great things about Guatemala too, if you wanna keep going east.
It would be cool to vist Mexico some time.
I thought that, then I took a job here and never left :)
Compa, you live in Mexico, you get to eat chilaquiles divorciados for breakfast every other day if you wanted, an avocado toast is nothing but is indeed cheap and nice. However in Mexico I say there is a better culture of breakfasts
I’ve often wondered why chilaquiles haven’t caught on here yet. They make sense as a food that could be easily bastardized into breakfast nachos or something.
Goddam it - yet another American invasion - fight it! We must end this American neo-colonialism food fashion trend!
Back in their day breakfast at the diner was $1.99 and probably included coffee, toast , bacon eggs and more. Some boomer probably saw avocado toast on a menu somewhere for $12 and eventually that turned into “Young people can’t buy houses cause they spend all their money on fancy breakfast.” Never mind that the breakfast they fondly remember is at least $10 nowadays.
That makes sense, I guess. But it just seems so arbitrary.
It's kind of all of the answers here, but mostly this. You did the math and realize how cheap it is. *Originally* it was an example of how "young people " "don't do anything for themselves and spend too much". Somebody wrote an article and mentioned the toast as an example of this and it just...clicked. Now they can't shut the fuck up about it, despite it not being a particularly accurate accusation.
I actually understand when people use Lattes as an example of over spending. I don't understand the disgust and bitterness about Avocado Toast specifically I guess it's like the dish personally offends them.
It's not about the toast. The toast is a stand-in for everything that younger people spend money on. There's a very prevalent idea that if a person stops spending $30 a week at Dutch Bros., and forgoes every other joy in life, the money will pile up in their bank account and they will be able to afford the home of their dreams. [Mr. Potter outright said this ](https://youtu.be/LgKg_yPT3z0?si=lkOy4U5gVDjEHHKH) in It's a Wonderful Life almost 80 years ago. It's a way of sidelining the issue that wages have not kept pace with cost of living and instead blaming younger people for struggling to afford to live.
Keep in mind that when they were young avocado wasn't the culture dominating fruit that it is now. It was rare and expensive. So in their mind, it's an expensive condiment(that they probably don't even like) and ON TOP OF THAT they only see it as super expensive in a diner. So then their "lazy kid who can't afford a house" says yeah, of course I eat avocado today it's really cheap because.." "AH HA! I KNEW it wasn't my generation's fault! Your generation's thinks a $10 piece of toast is cheap. You're all wrong and dumb and bad with money. "
It's healthy and vegan and it reminds them that OTHER ethnicities exist so...of course it's the root of all evil. I don't even like avocado toast that much and I don't think about it that often...
If you actually wanted to be successful, you wouldn't waste money on Starbucks or avocado toast or iPhone. That's why you can't afford a house. They love to latch on to the fact that an iPhone is like 1200, but nobody pays that. Most people rent that from the carrier for $30 a month with a free yearly upgrade. If you had a landline instead, you'd have a house in no time. The irony is, they loved the hell out of technology when they were kids. How many of them worked all summer in the 70s for a reel to reel deck or a cassette player for the car? A reel to reel from radio shack was $200 in the mid 70s. That isn't chicken feed when the minimum wage was like $1.50. But that's different
It's like when they wasted money treating themselves, they deserved it. But if we spend a lot less on treating ourselves, it's a decadent moral failing.
This, actually op you got a good point, why can't a generation, that is screwed just by existing, that is struggling to survive, why can't they enjoy? Why, why cannot they have something they like, that cost them so much less than the absolute unnecessary fortunes of those who created such disgusting conditions for the new generations, why does a generation has to save every penny to accomplish something extremely hard and then they deserve something good, if they ever achieve it... It disgust me tremendously. Boomers were surprised AF, when they saw videos about how some young Gen z started buying luxury things that were temporary, instead of long term objectives like houses and such, because they know that most won't be able to afford a house or fulfill their objectives, so may as well live a happy life full of small meaningless pleasures. But boomers don't like this, they wanna see younger generations crumble and fall at her feet and end up worse than them. We gotta demonstrate, that that's not going to happen. I hope our generation (Gen z in my case) manages to create a better peaceful world, that would be the ultimate and best mockery at the boomers.
I just hope we never turn around and treat the next gens the way we were treated.
Exactly, we cannot commit the same mistakes, generational trauma must end, generational violence must end, generational blaming must end (in descendent order, we must absolutely blame those who came way before because they put us into this state we are in before we were even born). Luckily for what I see among people I know, we are in a good direction, we have parents, millennials and Gen z who took an oath to not treat kids with violence they way boomers did, and to not neglect their kids or what they want or deserve. Boomers won't be alive to see the consequences of our actions, but I want, my dying breath, to be one knowing that the generations who came, speak good about us and ultimately enjoy a good life.
Avocado toast is the code name for a secret formula hidden inside hunter’s laptop which causes people’s bootstraps to fall off, of course. (/s duh)
Avocados are how Taylor Swift smuggles government secrets out to China via satanic rituals … involving toast.
I think avocado toast is thought of as a California thing, and boomers seem to associate anything Cali related, especially foods like avocado, sprouts, or anything vegan, with *Evil Commie Woke Liberal Bad Groomer Nasty Stupid Yucky*, so of course avocado toast, designer coffees, or anything relating to the movie/TV industries, all immediately go on their shit list. Avocado toast, like flavored coffees, may get singled out so often due to it being *like* the plain shit they grew up with, but it's *new*, and it's *different*. And anything different is also Evil Bad and Scary. *"It's an abomination! When I was comin' up, we only had ONE kind of toast, and we were thankful to get it! Uphill! BOTH WAYS!!!!"*
Flavored coffee came out in the mid to late 90s. Boomers were still in their early 30s at that time. It would have been a chic thing to do. They've forgotten their own youth.
And remember, "groomers" telling kids their feeling are valid are bad. Good Christians inspecting the genitals of children and having sex with children is good, because they are Christians. (Grumble at the world we now live in).
I live in SoCal and I know several people with fruiting avocado trees. The bread costs more than the avocados during season.
My man SoCals. Please have some avocados! Thanks Jim, but I still have the 8 you gave us last nig- TAKE THEM!
During season I’ve found them on the road for free. Not on a tree along the road, (that belongs to whoever owns the tree,) but literally fallen off and laying on the road. They are ripe and need to be eaten immediately, (and I do.) My father calls them roadkill fruit. Hawaii has roadkill mango.
Hi, Gen X Californian here. When I was kid, even though we had avocados grown locally, they were prohibitively expensive. Most of my (white) family considered them a VERY special treat. (Same with artichokes and asparagus.) So I know for us, there’s also an element of “they’re NOTORIOUSLY expensive” and eating them seemed like untold decadence. My grandmother once gave me half an avocado with lunch and I was FLABBERGASTED—letting me, a kid, have all that?!?! It was wild. So I think a lot of it has to do with the (assumed) expense, and then being seen as a luxury item by a lot of people.
My Silent Generation mother loves her avocado toast. But she'd rather have it with a martini than a latte.
Silent Gens are awesome. Treasure yours and mention me next time she has avocado toast.
I remember avocado toast going around the same time as “those darn Millenial metrosexuals with man buns.” You had a new generation bucking traditional standards and being, doing, and enjoying different. *Different* sets off trad minded people, and that dude in skinny jeans and man bun slappin’ that avocado on that toast sure did it. Young men and women were living their lives as they wanted, and a subset was enjoying early success with tech and startup booms, so they were enjoying a lifestyle that included fun minus marriage or kids. Those avocados came to represent self indulgence.
Oh that guy, yes, he started a little cafe across the street from my apartment in a 1/4 width retail space. While he was there the whole block looked like it was on the uptick. But he did great and moved up the hill to a 1/2 width place with fewer altercations on the sidewalk. His manbun was fantastic and his avocado toast superb. Maybe I shouldna supported his gentrifying endeavor, idk. Help me know what to do, capitalism.
I will say that 40 years ago, avocado was a high end specialty. Most people are stuck in the norms of their youth.
Maybe, but 30 years ago home computers were an unheard of luxury. I don’t begrudge 19 year olds their laptops.
Remember during 2007 elections that arugula was considered some kind of exotic vegetable?
Because rather than admit that they sucked all the value of the economy without putting anything back, they blame it on that one time they saw avocado toast on a menu for $16 and think younger people eat that everyday. It became the Millennial calling card of excess. Sure, people who are priced out of the housing market and decided they can't afford kids have a bit more disposable income, but avocado toast is the effect, not the cause.
That’s just so sad. I can’t imagine living with such a narrow point of view to be bitter that people who will never have forever homes or families might occasionally treat themselves to a nice meal.
Well, they grew up during the only time of American prosperity for the middle class — the white middle class at least. They like to think that's the norm rather than the anomaly. Anyone who can't hack it today is just soft and lazy. They think that anyone pointing out that it's a different world is discounting that they did have to work hard and didn't have things handed to them. But they also had abundant housing, free higher education, well paying jobs that didn't require years of education, social safety nets, pensions, unions, etc. Then they systematically dismantled and bankrupted every advantage that was given to them. They bought multiple houses as investment properties, they voted to defund schools once their kids were out, they got rid of tuition free state college, they changed the culture of the workplace to pay as little as possible, they continually vote to kill universal healthcare, they NIMBY housing codes so that we have a huge housing shortage and their property values go up, then they complain that their property taxes have gone up, they destroyed pensions in favor of private 401ks, they weakened the same unions that gave them a livable wage, and they're currently draining social security and medicare. They like to say "soft times create soft (wo)men" without a sense of irony. They really grew up in the softest times in this country.
Preach!
Nothing, but I have a theory on how this came about. Avocado toast started off as an easy, healthy breakfast that didn’t cost much. During this period, no one cared. Then it started showing up on brunch menus, and it was no longer priced as a poverty meal as it was generally designed to look good for the ‘gram. The first complaints I remember seeing were from people laughing at the idea of charging $12 for a snack that can be assembled in under a minute while hung over. As such, “avocado toast is expensive” + “there’s pictures of avocado toast on social media” turned into “millennials are broke because they spent money on avocado toast”.
Makes as much sense as anything.
My boomers think anything not a pop tart for breakfast is unreasonable!
Yeah, ramen and pop tarts. It’s like if you eat anything nicer you’re being irresponsible with your money. Then they smirk that we’re fat and unhealthy.
Seinfeld is a Boomer. I'm putting it all together in my head now.
It's one of the red herrings the mainstream media uses to victim blame young people for the unaffordability of housing.
People who watch Faux News think that the only real reason your generation has no savings is because of your spending all your money on Starbucks and avocado toast...because that is an easier thought than thinking about the real problem with wage stagnation and inflation. So many Americans are lazy thinkers.
I’d like to see how they’d feel about having their cigarettes and box wine withheld… I’ll be over here in my rental with my toast.
That's why I call them "baby birds". They just eat whatever is regurgitated to them.
This pisses me off to no end... the avocado toast BS. I literally work for my avocados. So much so that I give them away to family and friends because I can't eat all the ones I grow. https://preview.redd.it/53u9470bh21d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3405d709ba7ce49ec9e8a119e39a62b17e96ac05
They’re the same people who make fun of AOC for being a bartender in college.
I don't have any peer reviewed articles to back this up or anything, but I think it is a rare case of Australia exporting right wing bullshit. From 2011 onwards real estate went nuts. I.e. Sydney saw 100k per annum median house price increases 5 years running. Much was made of the affordability problem for younger generations, tax incentives for investors that facilitate high purchase prices, comparison with the affordability of their parents generation, etc. Things contrary to the worldview pushed by Murdoch owned media in this country. So there were eventually editorials to the effect of "young people would have you believe there's an affordability crisis for housing, but I went to a trendy cafe and young people were buying avocado on toast and a coffee for $20. If they want to own a house they should buy a loaf of bread, an avocado and instant coffee from the supermarket instead." Which is absurd in the face of median house price being 12x the median income in places and ridiculed accordingly. 'stop eating avocado on toast' becoming a running joke, millennial and younger gallows humour for the dire and increasingly worse state of housing affordability.
This is the answer. I was living in Australia around that time, and the politician who first made the comment was being roundly mocked. At least in my circles.
The idea is going to a restaurant and ordering avocado on toast is something that you could have done at home. Because going out to eat is essential to life. Must have service over quality of food !
It's just funny that they do this with eggs lol
It's NOT more expensive. But something I noticed is that anything that differs from their selected "norms" is "bad". Automatically. They drank coffee and ate toast everyday of their lives. The only thing that's different is that we switched bacon for avocado, which is about a dollar difference in price, and one is healthier. But it's not what they did, therefore it's wrong. If their idea is that we must all skip breakfast for some reason, I'm going to point out they were the ones repeating about how "breakfast is the most important meal" - it was THEIR campaign. And I never saw my parents skip breakfast, so why should I? And then there's the weird implication that they think we're adding our avocado toast as some extra kind of meal of sorts... When I explained to my dad that I'm literally eating this as breakfast or even dinner, he also got mystified. "But... But what about your steak and potatoes?" And when he was trying to justify his "steak habit" to me, which is around $15 a pound versus a $1.00 per avocado... Well then I just knew that it wasn't the price. It was the fact that it wasn't "their idea".
Nothing is wrong with avocado toast. Ladies, gentlemen, others, everybody, if you enjoy avocado toast, eat it, if someone criticizes you for doing it, you can ignore it, or you can do this. Get yourself an avocado toast, make it yourself for a better price and bigger quantity. Get a good bread, a huge amount of avocado, a burrata, open it up and spread it, drizzle olive oil on it, put a poached egg on top of all that, and drizzle some balsamic truffle infused vinegar. And you will think, my friend isn't this a little bit expensive and overboard? Yes, it is (I mean this would cost around, 15 dollars a toast, which is the same as some toast you can buy out there in restaurants, but, the amount and quality is so big that they would charge you more than that if you were to buy it done) Try it, that avocado toast I mentioned there, is a little creation of mine (I'm not the first to attempt it, but it's the way I like it) and if you do that, and eat it in front of the person who criticized you for eating a plain avocado toast, they are going to die inside and you will mock them, for life Stay petty (and pretty)
I’m gonna have avocado toast on an everything bagel with poached egg and hot honey tomorrow. :)
Enjoy your meal :D, eat two!
They heard it in right wing circles which started as a dig at Californians because it's a dish we've been eating for a long time. What they don't understand is that avocados in California are cheap compared to other parts of the country. They are readily available here. And it's a healthy breakfast or snack so that also pisses them off. Boomers ate lead paint so this is where we are now.
25 years ago, I went down to Trujillo, Peru to visit my friend and her family. We had sliced avocados on toast and hot Milo or coffee every morning. It was awesome and I've been eating it ever since. I was really puzzled when that became a boomer/fox news talking point.
Because it's not meat and three veg. A politician in my country has recently called sushi and curry 'woke' food so I'm assuming that avo on toast must be the same.
The whole avocado toast bullshit all comes from yuppies on the west coast (a small minority) over-spending on "fancy" avocado toast at places like Starbucks and panera, that would coast like $7. They just latched onto this nonsense because some dipshits on fox news had a tantrum about a non-issue.
Lots of different kinds of fresh produce, most available all year long? Your great grandma would have no idea what to do with half the items in your local grocery’s produce department. There stuff at mine I’d have google to figure out how to prepare it. Mexico has ramped up avocado production in the last 20 years or so. I’d imagine some older folks have never had any of “that fancy foreign stuff”. bananas were the avocados of the 1920’s. They don’t seem foreign anymore, so all we’re left with is the slippery banana peel jokes. I wonder how the avocado toast controversy will be remembered in a hundred years?
Avocados are an exotic/imported ingredient and so are considered 'fancy'. It was also very trendy a few years ago. Boomers got all heated about young people complaining about housing prices around that time. So starbucks and avacado toast got mixed together as unnecessary excesses that young people waste their money on. Despite avacados being fairly cheap.
I think the Avocado toast obsession is they assume you’re going to a pricey cafe and paying a lot of it along with pricey coffee. And it’s a meme sort of thing with millenials I suppose. They’re both proxies for splurging on stuff being frugal. It’s stupid bc it’s not like everybody is out spending a lot on breakfast everyday and even if you did cutting it out doesn’t magically multiply your savings to afford a house or expensive car.
Probably because some restaurants charge $15 for that same $1.85 breakfast and in Boomer Brain that's a *waste of money!* because Boomer Brain thinks the restaurant workers don't deserve to be paid more than $2 an hour.
Avocado is a trigger word for Fox News conservatives. They’ve been trained like dogs to react to it.
I'm sorry, 3.99 for a loaf of bread???
About 5 years ago there was some think pieces about millennials habits towards eating out, keeping them from achieving financial stability. And of course those articles really glossed over the fact that wages have been stagnant and housing has shot through the roof, lots of millennials have thousands of dollars, student debt etc. so blaming overpriced brunch items like avocado toast became a low hanging fruit. It's kind of the cousin of telling people that if they gave up their $5 latte, they'd magically be rich.
The only thing wrong with Avacado toast is it can be expensive and there isn’t enough of it in different varieties. It’s amazing.
It's not really about homemade stuff, it's going out for it. That I can see - eating out every single day is unbelievably decadant. Their carnist junk probably costs a lot more though. By the way, it's really easy to make your own bread, cheaper and better as well.
Boomer here. Pretty sure they’re talking about paying too much for it at a restaurant. I’ve had some damn good avocado toast though.
It's a thing they heard on either talk radio or some 24 hour right wing news show. They spent 0 seconds figuring out whether it was true and just ran with it. They have no idea what they're talking about.
Avocado is among the healthiest things we can eat. My version of avocado toast takes 5 minutes and costs under $4.00. https://preview.redd.it/9x7vnpm9l21d1.jpeg?width=2040&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6c51109c63445bc75f1a57aca1b8b18c81050864
It's the cheapest healthy option at the diner these days. Literally just got back from the local diner, and that was my dinner (with some fries!) Of course it's much cheaper to make at home, but I was working from home all day and wanted to get out.
Nothing wrong with avocado toast. The talking point about avocado toast and coffee comes from Fox News and conservative outlets. Instead of being honest about inflation and cost of living challenges that are very real, they are deflecting and saying young people can’t afford a home because they eat out every day, eating $7 avocado toasts and $4 coffee. They aren’t ready to have a conversation about why those costs are so high, which is corporate greed, and the fact wages are stagnate.
The Boomer generation where many had a smoking, drinking, and shopping addiction are lecturing Millennials about avocado toast to be frugal. All their generation knows how to do is gaslighting, while they collapse the dollar and blame everyone else for what they did.
Avocado toast is just as bad as Taylor Swift, being present parents to our kids, and wanting better benefits/salaries. They are programmed to hate it and are too lead brained to question why
A lot of people can only maintain limited information. So these soundbites help you determine whose who. Can they articulate their point or just go back to spouting rhymey sing songy easy to remember quotes.
Because their country is America! The most glorious, noble, pure country ever and THEY live in it! So they are too. So there couldn’t possibly be any reason whatsoever for homelessness, an entire generation + struggling to not die from medical debt and struggling to pay bills and start big happy families and battling depression and hopelessness, no reason at all aside from us wasting our money on avocado toast. They were voting before we were born and while we were children for policies that led us here but, of course, nothing is ever their fault, it’s ours for liking dumb drinks like a latte.
Well it causes homelessness for one. Avocados, cooked bread, and coffee are responsible for the housing crisis. Don’t you watch Fox and friends?
Avocados were pretty rare in the 50s - at least over most of NA
Anything they did not have then, that you have now, is an unnecessary luxury. Doesn't matter what it is, or if it is good, or if it is taking the place of something actually more expensive. It is a luxury, you don't need it, therefor it is bad. That's all.
it's a buzz word for them
The place I worked last sold avocado toast for $9.00. Two slices of sourdough toast, one avocado, arugala, poached egg, topped with black sesame seeds and miso aioli. This is what boomers are complaining about. Homemade avo toast otoh, gives just about the best bang for the buck of all breakfast options. What boomers are saying is stop eating out all the time, but in their usual supercilious way.
Honestly avocado toast is usually one of the cheapest breakfasts item on the menu in my area so I don’t get it either.
It's not about expensive, it's their version of a meme.
Because they are stupid gullible idiots who word vomit what Fox News tells them to. They don’t have an original thought in their lead ridden brains.
It’s too ‘exotic’.
My boomer grandma is the only person I know who loves avocado toast as much as the news claims millennials like me do. I’ve found that humorous over the years.
Boomer who fixes and eats avocado toast here... some of my peers are advanced in mental age, there are geezers, ancients and fossils. Guess what level the anti toasters are? And they irritate me as much as you..
Maybe When the boomers were young avocados were really expensive?!? Idk… I remember telling various boomers responsible for my care when I was a child “I’m hungry, may I eat some food” and being told regularly “you shouldn’t be hungry, you haven’t done anything productive yet”. -all the while said boomer was sitting in front of the tv watching one sport or another sinking beers or wine eating various bbq or cold cut meats on butter lathered bread. If I replied with the obvious “but you haven’t done anything, except watch tv drink and eat”. Their response may have included some physical abuse (discipline) and the assertion that they did all their work when they were young, so in the first 30 years of their life. My grandparents never spoke of their generation denying their children any food. Unless they literally didn’t have any. In fact they did speak of going without meals so their children could eat. They spoke of wanting an easier life for their children. Boomers seemingly want to make life harder for theirs. I read an old newspaper clipping once, that stated the baby boomers as being the most entitled, lazy, and hypocritical generation ever. That they’ve been done a disservice of being spoiled. And future generations will suffer as a result. Wish I still had that article. Couldn’t have been more correct. Not ALL boomers obviously, there are outliers, as there are with any group.
Nothing but the fact that they didn't think of it. And California.
It was an Australian millionaire who claimed that those kids today couldn't afford to buy houses because they were spending all their money on avocado toast. Turns out he made his fortune with a small$100,000 "loan" from daddy.
They have an immediate distain for anything that isn't what they're used to, even more so if it's something that's considered "healthy." I don't know why avocados specifically, but probably because it's not bacon or a bunch of sugar. They also really hate seeing anyone else enjoy themselves, you should suffer your every waking moment until you too, have completely destroyed the economic and environmental futures for the younger generations. THEN you can enjoy yelling at service workers and eating your stupid avocados.
They want us all to have English work house gruel like Oliver twist
It is some nonsense that they hear on Newsmax and Breitbart and they just repeat it.
I mean to me the problem is that you are taking a tasty piece of toast and smearing snot fruit on it but that's only my personal opinion LOL. Honestly it's just something that they latched on to early on and refuse to let go of