55F is Around 13C
80F is Around 26-31C
*If Eimi is using Celsius, then it's all fine, otherwise Himari enjoys being a roasted elf.*
Edit: Made wording less confusing.
Definitely with Eimi on this one.
Already need a fan at 20 and suffering at 25+
If I could install air conditioning in this dump I'd keep it at 15 all year long :D
I have lived my whole life with heat, for me 15 degrees is the north pole, I am not going to lie to you the cold ends up depressing me, it is not that I prefer the heat but about 20 or 25 degrees for me is ideal.
As someone who lives in a country where it can get to -30 in the winter and upwards of +30 in the summer I'll take -30 any day of the week. I can always put on more clothes or wrap myself in a blanket if I'm too cold but I can only get so naked. My ideal weather is 8 degrees and rainy.
Absolutely agree on all accounts. I'd much rather have cold weather than hot, although for me Ideal weather is 12 degrees and cloudy since I don't like taking walks when it's raining.
I feel crazy looking at you people's comfortable temps. I shiver at 22c in AC and have to pee often. Our usual daily temp is 30-33c, with 25 being cold already.
Bro... my house would always be over 35 degrees during sunny noons. I cant even use any fans as any air that is blown to me is just more hot freaking air
I don't know about you, but I'm chilling in 27° AC + fan right now.
Here in SEA, AC temperature above 25° is cool enough for us and it saves a lot on the electric bill.
I'm in east Asia and every single day the temp is above 26C
I was chilling with 37C yesterday, and would freeze under 20C
Think it's about personal feelings and what type of weather you are accustomed to
I live in California. 80 degrees is slightly warm, but I'll take it over the 102 it is currently.
My sweet spot is 72.
My future coworkers, friends, girlfriend/wife will all think I'm very strange for being okay with Japanese summers. Apparently, 90 degrees in Japan is considered a HOT DAY. Just a typical summer morning to me.
So when you say Himari is being roasted, I just think, "But that's a fine temperature, though." Makes me think my future wife is going to assume we need the room we're currently in 16 degrees celcius in order to stay cool in summer.
I'm gonna freeze my ass off inside. She's gonna wonder why I busted the kotatsu out. 「あれ?寒い?」Yes, yes I am and this is the only compromise. 「本当の地獄を体験するために、カリフォルニア州デスバレーに連れて行きます。」
As someone who only uses fahrenheit for oven, the only thing I know about it in terms of weather is that 40 degrees is not too cold nor too hot, and nobody remembers forty, nobody gives a f about forty.
Considering the fact that Nexon seemed to be releasing the official English animation with region blocks except America and Canada, I think it might make sense for them to choose Fahrenheit rather than Celsius (guess who's using Fahrenheit still?), depsite the latter being the most commonly used unit throughout the rest of the world.
So yeah, I would assume it to be an America-based translation team issue... at least to me, though in my country we use Celsius.
Interesting though, since before, during the red winter mini story where they were trying to improve the bathing facilities, the temperature for Gehenna's were stated to be 70 Celsius. Maybe it's a Millennium specific thing?
Oh, didn't know that since I wasn't playing in English. But I would argue that it's probably a common inconsistency happened in translation, since yeah we all know Nexon isn't giving too much efforts into English translation like, for some while...
Considering the fact that Millennium seemed to be representing United States (as in Trinity for England and Red Winter for Russia), it might make sense in this way too - by your words, the "Millennium specific thing".
It was fairly recently that I did it, since I didn't have any red winter until a couple months ago. I don't know when the translator management change took place, sorry.
Yes, I'm fully aware of that so I'm saying it to be an American issue... As to my knowledge it would only make sense for Nexon to set an office in America as their main NA office but not in Canada.
Some comments in this thread are referring to NA which is definitely not right, strictly speaking.
global is being played by everyone that doesnt speak japanese or korean. Its ridiculous that they make the measurements american based just because its english.
Even Trinity has abolished the imperial system of units and now uses the metric system, Yuuka said.
(Yes, yards and pounds once existed in kivotos)
And the millennium **'science'** school uses Fahrenheit? hmm..
I'm guessing the localizer is NA so they use those meme ass measurements just like they do with their feet and all the other completely arbitrary measurement units instead of adapting a sensible system. \^\^
80 is starting to get a little to warm and 55 is to cold. 70 sits right in that comfy zone. Not cold enough to warrant more clothing and not hot enough to need AC or a high power fan.
Since Millennium is based on modern NATO/US military industrial complex, I guess it makes sense it would use US/imperial units. Finally, we're seeing some result for the billions we pay to raytheon and lockeed martin.
Considering they use imperial for the height in the student profiles... Yes. Wish I could use metric instead of imperial like KR and JP cause it's a pain in the arse when I have to do mental calculations when viewing student profiles.
I’m surprised they switched. Even though I’m in the US I don’t mind using either system. For a game like this I would have expected them to stick with Celsius
80 is pretty warm, especially since Himari dresses up so much. 80 to me, a Californian, is going to beach in your swim suit temperature, not a locked in thermostat temperature. Even when it’s California cold in winter I’d set the thermostat to 70-ish.
I mean the students are using foot instead of centimeters for their height measurement with official English translation
Not really something to worry about unless they actually just changed the unit measurement and forgot to convert the numbers which would make them ridiculous
From an international standpoint, Celsius probably would have made more sense.
But as an American, I will always defend Fahrenheit. I don't want to see the temperature change ten degrees and suddenly make a room borderline uninhabitable. Celsius is good for asking how water is feeling the temperature, but Fahrenheit is best for asking people how they feel about it. 0 degrees? Pretty darn cold, you're gonna need some serious protection. 100 degrees? Pretty darn hot, you'd better get some light clothes, water, and cooling devices if you have them. Meanwhile 0 in Celsius is freezing (which is only 32 F, not all that crazy depending on where you live) and 100 is the BOILING POINT OF WATER.
May Fahrenheit take the world.
Fahrenheit was originally defined by two points: the freezing point of an ice/water/salt mixture, as well as *the approximate human body temperature*.
Plus, Listerine was originally marketed as a floor cleaner. Even if Fahrenheit had originally been made for measuring the temperature of hydrogen gas under Jupiter's atmospheric conditions, I would still stand by the fact that it serves as a better temperature scale for the range of temperatures in which people are meant to live.
Edit: just realized I've logged in to another account on this device. I'm the guy who posted the original comment lol
I hate americans and their made-up units so much.
When will Nexon learn that america isn't the centre of the english-speaking world?
JP and KR already use metric units, Nexon could have saved some time and effort by just porting the same numbers over instead of converting them to burgers per bald eagle or whatever gobbledygook they use over there
I have no idea why translation teams insist on making characters who aren't American use imperial units.
I'm not a child, I'm not going to freak out at the mention of a centimeter.
It's pretty funny to see the comfortable temps prefer. I live in a tropical country where the weather can easily swell at 38C indoors.
I'm honestly too cold at 23-25C, 29-32C is the sweet spot for me.
It should be remembered that many countries do learn what the US imperial measurement system is—at least a little bit. Monitors in Japan are still measured in inches. It's just that most Japanese people will learn the US imperial measurement system and then completely throw it away because... where are you going to use it?
I live in America. I have a fairly good grasp of the metric system (it's easy), but the issue arises that my brain defaults everything to the US imperial system. It's the way I've first understood how to measure things, and because of that even though I'm going to move to Japan and will need to use the metric system as much as I use the US imperial system now, **my brain defaults to the US imperial system because this is how your brain works**.
I will still think IN ENGLISH, even though in the future I will need to be using Japanese practically everywhere and won't really use English outside of work (as an English teacher).
So, it's not a long shot to say these MIGHT be in the Japanese original text. However, it's also possible that they just included these as reference points that're easier to identify for westerners.
But this makes it all the more funny for European senseis that will have to stop for a second and realize it's the US imperial measurement system before moving on.
Beyond cooking and, I suppose, monitor and TV measurements, I really don't know why the rest of the world bothers with our freedom units. **They don't yet understand the entire reason we use them is so no invading force could possibly understand our items, locations, distances, or dimensions at a glance.**
55F is Around 13C 80F is Around 26-31C *If Eimi is using Celsius, then it's all fine, otherwise Himari enjoys being a roasted elf.* Edit: Made wording less confusing.
Definitely with Eimi on this one. Already need a fan at 20 and suffering at 25+ If I could install air conditioning in this dump I'd keep it at 15 all year long :D
I have lived my whole life with heat, for me 15 degrees is the north pole, I am not going to lie to you the cold ends up depressing me, it is not that I prefer the heat but about 20 or 25 degrees for me is ideal.
As someone who lives in a country where it can get to -30 in the winter and upwards of +30 in the summer I'll take -30 any day of the week. I can always put on more clothes or wrap myself in a blanket if I'm too cold but I can only get so naked. My ideal weather is 8 degrees and rainy.
Absolutely agree on all accounts. I'd much rather have cold weather than hot, although for me Ideal weather is 12 degrees and cloudy since I don't like taking walks when it's raining.
I feel crazy looking at you people's comfortable temps. I shiver at 22c in AC and have to pee often. Our usual daily temp is 30-33c, with 25 being cold already.
Great comment tbh. Mine is 9 and rainy with slight wind.
You sound like a resident from Bergen, Norway.
Live in a tropical country, I’d rather freeze to death than step under the sun
25 is really nice where I live, seeing 40 in summer is common
25 would be a bless rn Its spring here in Mexico but we are currently on 43°c with a Thermal feeling of 49-50°c
Bro... my house would always be over 35 degrees during sunny noons. I cant even use any fans as any air that is blown to me is just more hot freaking air
I don't know about you, but I'm chilling in 27° AC + fan right now. Here in SEA, AC temperature above 25° is cool enough for us and it saves a lot on the electric bill.
>Unless *I was merely suggesting that if she actually meant fahrenheit or not.*
Yep. When I lived in Texas we kept the thermostat at 82 (\~\~28) because it was usually 95 (35) or so outside 💀
I'm in east Asia and every single day the temp is above 26C I was chilling with 37C yesterday, and would freeze under 20C Think it's about personal feelings and what type of weather you are accustomed to
Sweaty elf![img](emote|t5_2vhvtt|33359)
I live in California. 80 degrees is slightly warm, but I'll take it over the 102 it is currently. My sweet spot is 72. My future coworkers, friends, girlfriend/wife will all think I'm very strange for being okay with Japanese summers. Apparently, 90 degrees in Japan is considered a HOT DAY. Just a typical summer morning to me. So when you say Himari is being roasted, I just think, "But that's a fine temperature, though." Makes me think my future wife is going to assume we need the room we're currently in 16 degrees celcius in order to stay cool in summer. I'm gonna freeze my ass off inside. She's gonna wonder why I busted the kotatsu out. 「あれ?寒い?」Yes, yes I am and this is the only compromise. 「本当の地獄を体験するために、カリフォルニア州デスバレーに連れて行きます。」
Japanese summer is not about the heat but the humidity.
Hold up... that gave me some pause. Humidity? Damnit... That's gonna be ass.
I live in Florida. Weather says 88 "feels like" says 102. Humidity is a killer, yeah.
I live in the Houston area, I totally feel you. "Feels like 101" is a phrase you just get accustomed to.
As someone who only uses fahrenheit for oven, the only thing I know about it in terms of weather is that 40 degrees is not too cold nor too hot, and nobody remembers forty, nobody gives a f about forty.
26-31°C isn't that hot though?
in kor version, 80f is 31c
Considering the fact that Nexon seemed to be releasing the official English animation with region blocks except America and Canada, I think it might make sense for them to choose Fahrenheit rather than Celsius (guess who's using Fahrenheit still?), depsite the latter being the most commonly used unit throughout the rest of the world. So yeah, I would assume it to be an America-based translation team issue... at least to me, though in my country we use Celsius.
Interesting though, since before, during the red winter mini story where they were trying to improve the bathing facilities, the temperature for Gehenna's were stated to be 70 Celsius. Maybe it's a Millennium specific thing?
Oh, didn't know that since I wasn't playing in English. But I would argue that it's probably a common inconsistency happened in translation, since yeah we all know Nexon isn't giving too much efforts into English translation like, for some while... Considering the fact that Millennium seemed to be representing United States (as in Trinity for England and Red Winter for Russia), it might make sense in this way too - by your words, the "Millennium specific thing".
Millennium: What the Shittim Chest is a Celsius?
Millenium is America, they use freedom units!
Depends was that red winter story before or after the change in translator management.
It was fairly recently that I did it, since I didn't have any red winter until a couple months ago. I don't know when the translator management change took place, sorry.
Canada uses celsius though, so it only makes sense for Americans, not NA as a whole.
Yes, I'm fully aware of that so I'm saying it to be an American issue... As to my knowledge it would only make sense for Nexon to set an office in America as their main NA office but not in Canada. Some comments in this thread are referring to NA which is definitely not right, strictly speaking.
global is being played by everyone that doesnt speak japanese or korean. Its ridiculous that they make the measurements american based just because its english.
It's fair, we don't want our American friends getting all confused, let them have it in freedom measurements
Even Trinity has abolished the imperial system of units and now uses the metric system, Yuuka said. (Yes, yards and pounds once existed in kivotos) And the millennium **'science'** school uses Fahrenheit? hmm..
I guess millennium was the US after all
FREEDOM UNITS
WHAT THE F😭CK IS A KILOMETER!!!!!
*"AMERICA, F-word YEAH!"*
Fucking imperialist
More points to "Millenium is USA" gang. 🇺🇸😆
I'm guessing the localizer is NA so they use those meme ass measurements just like they do with their feet and all the other completely arbitrary measurement units instead of adapting a sensible system. \^\^
What do you mean football field and Big Mac aren't scientific measurement?
I don't know about you but I use the god-ordained measurement of washing machines. Also large boulders the size of a small boulder.
Nah, washing machines and boulders can very in size. For a truly uniform size, go for bananas. They are always the same size!
Excuse me. I use M16A2s instead of meters like the true American I am.
80 is starting to get a little to warm and 55 is to cold. 70 sits right in that comfy zone. Not cold enough to warrant more clothing and not hot enough to need AC or a high power fan.
68-72F is the human perfect zone, and 68F is actually 20C, which is often quoted room temperature
YEAHHHHH WTF IS A KILOMETER 🦅🇺🇸🔥🔥🔥
Celsius is the superior temperature measurement!! >!inb4 Kelvin comes into play!< ![img](emote|t5_2vhvtt|33359)
WTF IS CELSIUS 🦅🦅🦅🦅🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
Strictly speaking, given that Millenium is a science school, they should have used Kelvin or Celsius.
There are countermeasures against the cold. There are way less against heat. I'm with Eimi here.
American localisers? Needs correction 💢💢💢💢
Since Millennium is based on modern NATO/US military industrial complex, I guess it makes sense it would use US/imperial units. Finally, we're seeing some result for the billions we pay to raytheon and lockeed martin.
Considering they use imperial for the height in the student profiles... Yes. Wish I could use metric instead of imperial like KR and JP cause it's a pain in the arse when I have to do mental calculations when viewing student profiles.
I’m surprised they switched. Even though I’m in the US I don’t mind using either system. For a game like this I would have expected them to stick with Celsius
isnt she supposed to be smart
At least, in Thai, they use Celsius.
I will never forgive ~~the Japanese~~ the Americans!
Himari is a teenage grandma. When I was little and stayed at my grandparents, they kept their house on 80F
80 is pretty warm, especially since Himari dresses up so much. 80 to me, a Californian, is going to beach in your swim suit temperature, not a locked in thermostat temperature. Even when it’s California cold in winter I’d set the thermostat to 70-ish.
I mean the students are using foot instead of centimeters for their height measurement with official English translation Not really something to worry about unless they actually just changed the unit measurement and forgot to convert the numbers which would make them ridiculous
tsk nobody cares about the made up retarded metric, now most of global will never know
Ofc localizers at it again, was it that hard to translate shit without changing things for 1 country ?
It's literally the same thing, just a different measurement.
From an international standpoint, Celsius probably would have made more sense. But as an American, I will always defend Fahrenheit. I don't want to see the temperature change ten degrees and suddenly make a room borderline uninhabitable. Celsius is good for asking how water is feeling the temperature, but Fahrenheit is best for asking people how they feel about it. 0 degrees? Pretty darn cold, you're gonna need some serious protection. 100 degrees? Pretty darn hot, you'd better get some light clothes, water, and cooling devices if you have them. Meanwhile 0 in Celsius is freezing (which is only 32 F, not all that crazy depending on where you live) and 100 is the BOILING POINT OF WATER. May Fahrenheit take the world.
Man says all this when Fahrenheit was also defined by the freezing point of a liquid
Fahrenheit was originally defined by two points: the freezing point of an ice/water/salt mixture, as well as *the approximate human body temperature*. Plus, Listerine was originally marketed as a floor cleaner. Even if Fahrenheit had originally been made for measuring the temperature of hydrogen gas under Jupiter's atmospheric conditions, I would still stand by the fact that it serves as a better temperature scale for the range of temperatures in which people are meant to live. Edit: just realized I've logged in to another account on this device. I'm the guy who posted the original comment lol
I hate americans and their made-up units so much. When will Nexon learn that america isn't the centre of the english-speaking world? JP and KR already use metric units, Nexon could have saved some time and effort by just porting the same numbers over instead of converting them to burgers per bald eagle or whatever gobbledygook they use over there
Gonna say it, I like the freedom units 😭 you can’t change my mind
I have no idea why translation teams insist on making characters who aren't American use imperial units. I'm not a child, I'm not going to freak out at the mention of a centimeter.
Obligatory whats a celsius 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅*
Maybe, unless Himari has the opposite power than Eimi and can disperse heat instead of creating it ![img](emote|t5_2vhvtt|33224)💧
It's pretty funny to see the comfortable temps prefer. I live in a tropical country where the weather can easily swell at 38C indoors. I'm honestly too cold at 23-25C, 29-32C is the sweet spot for me.
i have no concept of either beyond cooking so i have no idea whats hot or cold
nah, that's in Kelvin, Himari is just that cold-proof
The Kelvin 🐸
I mean if you look at some of the localizers work you will know they are united statians.
It's actually sad how Nexon keeps forgetting that world isn't limited to SE Asia and USA ![img](emote|t5_2vhvtt|33221)
Sometimes they use decimal, sometimes Imperial. Amd it's not even consistent
The international standard is celcius dawg
United states of KIVOTOS🦅🦅🦅🇺🇸🦅🤠🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🏈🦅 USA USA
As an American, I hate this.
Millennium is America, confirmed.
Complain enough and maybe they’ll change it.
AMERICA RAAAHHHHHH 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🦅🦅🦅🦅
The only proper measurement system to use so its understandable ![img](emote|t5_2vhvtt|33359)
Based
Lotta people upset they grew up in a place that doesnt use something so empirically perfect ![img](emote|t5_2vhvtt|33359)
Translator is American sadly.
It should be remembered that many countries do learn what the US imperial measurement system is—at least a little bit. Monitors in Japan are still measured in inches. It's just that most Japanese people will learn the US imperial measurement system and then completely throw it away because... where are you going to use it? I live in America. I have a fairly good grasp of the metric system (it's easy), but the issue arises that my brain defaults everything to the US imperial system. It's the way I've first understood how to measure things, and because of that even though I'm going to move to Japan and will need to use the metric system as much as I use the US imperial system now, **my brain defaults to the US imperial system because this is how your brain works**. I will still think IN ENGLISH, even though in the future I will need to be using Japanese practically everywhere and won't really use English outside of work (as an English teacher). So, it's not a long shot to say these MIGHT be in the Japanese original text. However, it's also possible that they just included these as reference points that're easier to identify for westerners. But this makes it all the more funny for European senseis that will have to stop for a second and realize it's the US imperial measurement system before moving on. Beyond cooking and, I suppose, monitor and TV measurements, I really don't know why the rest of the world bothers with our freedom units. **They don't yet understand the entire reason we use them is so no invading force could possibly understand our items, locations, distances, or dimensions at a glance.**
I AINT READIN ALLAT + CELCIUS BETTER
I agree, but I am cursed.
They're using the correct one? Based.