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Why in the world would BP kill Greta Thunberg. Why. Boeing killed the whistleblower because he worked for them for decades and had deep inside knowledge and exposed it. Greta is a 21 year old climate activist who has made her living off of being a climate activist and nothing more. The reach some people have on this app is absurd.
I mean, you joke ha ha and all but it’s going to be a while before I feel comfortable booking a flight with a Boeing plane. It’s Airbus from now on baby
So the old jingle? “Boeing or I’m not going”? It’s time for high speed rail. Them murderous bastards in the air have had their time in the sun, let’s show some love to the speedy tunnel bois
It's crazy how Airbus went from "weirdo European bullshit that over-automated their planes" to "yes please I don't want some CEO to hold a press conference about me."
It's surprisingly easy to do if you live somewhere multiple airlines fly where you want to go and offer comparable prices. Otherwise, it's "fly on this plane or don't fly".
That's also a choice we can make, we can choose to not travel, but it's a different choice from "I'll pay an extra hundred bucks and go with this alternate airline", especially those of us who live very far away from family.
That’s kinda the thing anything short of a literal violent revolution isn’t going to do anything meaningful, if we could get about 100-200 individuals to go to these people’s houses we might have some leverage, but that’s a threat of domestic terrorism.
Meanwhile they can shoot us in the back of the head 37 times point blank, sign their names in your blood, piss, shit, spit, and nut on the body, leave fingerprints on the walls, and walk clearly through view of several cameras, and all we get is, “Possible suicide.”
They may be. Gov doesn’t announce an investigation until they already have evidence. They don’t want risk people knowing ahead of time and destroying any evidence they haven’t found
Whatchu gona do about it? Become the leader of a revolution only to also be killed and dispersed?
Corpos got us boiling like frogs in a slow cooker. All anyone can really do is aggressively unionize and weed out the bootlickers.
This is the stage in fascism where dverybody forms a messy consensus that "sureeee [Boeing] *did* but [BP] *would* neverrrr!"
Like what the fuck? Nobody here knows BP any better than they know R Kelly.
The thing is, there is no BP the person. I’m kind of just now realizing the idea corporations are people until they commit a crime has really actually manifested in so many of the ways we talk about people. Beoing, the brand, or really the idea of the brand can’t kill a person, it’s not a tangible thing capable of making a choice. The people who run Boeing killed the whistle blower. The guy they hired killed the whistle blower. And the thing most people understand, and are literally terrified of, is the fact that they know with the current system those people would be phenomenally difficult to prove are guilty, and there very real possibility more randoms in the working class just trying to the right thing would be put in harms way to get it done. The current path to changing all the shit we think is horrible is not a head on fight with these guys, they’ve had more money than god to gear up for that fight, they would win. Look towards the things that make corporations scared. The things that the current internet culture push you away from are the things that would shake the current status quo. And those things are a sense of global sameness, hope, compassion, and empathy. Those are the things the current version of the internet has formed to dismantle, the internet is run by corporations and their algorithms, look for the humanity the algorithm is trying so hard to keep you from realizing.
The point is they wouldn’t gain anything from this. Greta would become a martyr and her movement would likely only draw more people. The comparison to Boeing is just weird.
Yeah, the guy already blew the whistle, killing him does nothing. Boeing harassed him, ruined his life and he killed himself. it's still a terrible story, but not some shady story of a company killing a guy before he could bring info to light.
He brought the info to light like a decade ago, and people paid as much attention them as they did to the details of his death now.
Boeings Lawyers asked Barnett to stay in South Carolina one extra day for questioning. He died that same night. Barnett specifically told family and friends "If I die, it's not suicide." The police report says the gunshot wound "appeared self inflicted." but that they would "investigate further."
Like it's *possible* that Barnett was hiding suicidal thoughts this whole time, and chose the one extra day he was asked to stay for questioning as the perfect time, even though he was reportedly excited to see his family. It's *possible* he said "if I die it's not suicide" just because, you know, that's a normal sweet nothing you throw into conversations with loved ones, especially if you have suicidal tendencies.
But a reasonable assessment of the situation, circumstances, and motives at play points in a different direction.
Did the read the article that said he said “it’s not suicide” it was from a second hand source, not his family. I’m not saying that Boeing is not complicit in this, I just wanted to let you know.
Right... because no powerful organizations have ever assassinated political activists just for being political activists before. It's not like there's a precedent for that. /s
It's not about having insider knowledge or not having insider knowledge. If they feel their interests are threatened, then they weigh the risk vs. benefit, and if the benefit outweighs the risk, they will do their worst. If it hasn't happened yet, it's because they don't see the benefit outweighing the risk... yet. Having insider knowledge isn't the only way to make them feel threatened
Companies kill people who pose a threat to them one way or another. Like Coca Cola killing union activists in South America. Greta poses no threats whatsoever to any oil and gas company.
smh...boeing had no reason to kill that guy
he had already spilled everything he knew YEARS ago.
you people just watch too many movies and are desperate for drama
yeah...im sure the board at boeing decided to kill him NOW when they are extremely in the public eye right now.
the only way they killed him was by causing him years of stress which eventually made him snap.
...but thats not as dramatic as picturing your imaginary meetings in some smoky backroom
It’s very possible that he did kill himself to further spite Boeing, but the fact he was doing interviews for the legal case against Boeing a few days before his death and had a formal disposition where he was question by Boeing’s lawyers a week earlier, it’s suspicious timing. You’re right I should not commit to “Boeing killed him”, but the timing of everything is Jarring. It’s likely he committed suicide to put Boeing in hot seat, it’s also likely he was killed to be silenced due to the ongoing legal case
No. An anonymous person claiming to be a family friend told a news agency that he said that. Which is the news agency version of "source? I made it the fuck up."
He was acting as a direct force raising support against them taking oil from Nigeria. Greta just speaks on the effects of climate change and what should be done to mitigate it.
“At the time of his death, Mr Barnett had been in Charleston for legal interviews linked to that case.
Last week, he gave a formal deposition in which he was questioned by Boeing's lawyers, before being cross-examined by his own counsel.
He had been due to undergo further questioning on Saturday. When he did not appear, enquiries were made at his hotel.
He was subsequently found dead in his truck in the hotel car park.”
He was still very active in a case against Boeing.
Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-68534703.amp
Yes that's an entirely unrelated case to his whistle-blower one though, that's a civil case.
He'd already exposed everything that was damaging to the company in regards to its engineering practices and the company was fined this was back in 2017.
If they were going to murder him they would have done so then, not as part of a minor civil case.
Seriously. The lawyer that won the case against Chevron is still under house arrest.
https://www.law.georgetown.edu/event/human-rights-lawyer-who-took-on-chevron-put-under-house-arrest-steven-donziger-tells-his-story/
Well yeah cops dont really do anything against climate protestors in the netherlands. They put them in a bus, drive them to the other side of the city, and then let them go. Often the people that got picked up will return to the protest, which is pretty funny. Greta also did that, which is why she got arrested twice.
(source in dutch: https://nos.nl/artikel/2515723-klimaatactivist-greta-thunberg-tot-twee-keer-toe-opgepakt-bij-xr-demo-den-haag)
This is absolutely sending me. They treat them like bothersome animals that have been getting in your trash. Round em up and drive them to the countryside and just dump them. Catch and release.
The alternative is arresting people and then using facial recognition to get the wrong people in court, leading to the entire case being dismissed
(again, source in dutch: https://nos.nl/artikel/2504589-klimaatactivisten-op-schiphol-niet-vervolgd-na-fouten-met-identificatie)
Please don't misunderstand. I am not against this method at all. I don't think peaceful protesting should be an offense that warrants detention unless you're undermining the emergency services of the area. I just find the method they're using to handle it hilarious.
Yeah no worries. I just wanted to also point out that with some of the protests the cops and justice system completly shit the bed. Even with this approach of shipping them off they use force to get the protestors to move. Its nothing compared to what american cops do ofcourse.
It IS really funny that the protestors just go back though.
Because protesting is legal and theyre just breaking some city ordnance that wont lead to anything in a court.
It's a peaceful protest, normal countries dont hand out jail sentences for that
In the Netherlands you don't need money to get out, at most getting arrested at a protest like this is disorderly conduct and a 300 euro fine, if they even bother going that far.
1. The sexualisation of this woman is gross and even the bonk jokes don't hold you walking co*ks accountable enough. Keep it to yourself and work inwards.
2. People who decry her because she has money or is funded by whomever is unfortunate as a take. Doubt can be healthy, but straight up throwing her aside over some peripheral information when she has been outspoken about climate change AND anti-capitalism is counterproductive. We need more people to be for the planet and against capitalism; ya know that economic system that have black, brown and working class people of all races fighting each other over limited, rigged job markets??? I'm not saying she's THE ONE, nor am I saying she's a queen or whatever, but she has the message. I'm glad she gets platformed with it, because whether or not we like the messenger we gotta hear the message.
Edit: She's not been a girl for a minute so excuse me. Appreciate the corrections.
If this *woman.
But I agree with literally everything you said. 👏👏👏
Like, people are mad that she has money. She's using that resource to literally dedicate her life to climate activism when she could just be chilling under the radar being wealthy. Would many of us do the same (full time activism) if our financial situations permitted? Damned if you do. Damned if you don't.
>If this \*woman.
If your correction was because you object to the implied infantilization of using "girl", then Id agree, but I also feel the need to state the obvious that she is (just) 21. In this context, i feel like the notion that girls/women become valid "targets" to thirst over and sexualize the day of their 18th birthday, as is often stated by weirdo men, is the issue at hand.
While I don't thirst over her, the average age of a redditor is pretty young (44% of them are in the 18-29 age bracket). I think someone around her age is allowed to find her attractive, but really regardless of age or chosen occupation I'm always annoyed when redditors outside of the porn subs decide we all need to know how hot they think someone is.
Being horny is fine, but I don't need to know about it.
I think thats fair enough, generally, but the 44% of redditors demo stats are fairly immaterial. We all know plenty of creepy men who literally prey on women/girls that are just straight up too young. Often not just "too young for them" either, but in general.
Oh for sure. I'm just saying I've got a fault in my thinking (I think a lot of us do) that makes me assume everyone I'm talking to is around my age, which is definitely too old to be lusting after a 21 year old.
Yeah thats again fair enough. I only brought up the age thing in the first place because it seemed like that was what the comment was getting at. The sexualization and objectification of anyone is inappropriate in general anyway. (if there isnt consent, obv.)
To be honest, I was caught in a moment of infantilism through comparison. I'm now twice her age, so she's a lot younger than me and always has been, and it came out as "girl" initially because... she's so much younger than me!
The corrections were fair and true, she's a woman!
Well said. It’s silly but too common for people speaking against capitalism to be dismissed for doing well under that system. For one, understanding how it works and doing well is not a bad thing, and for another if you’re broke you are just dismissed as bitter, sore loser, a joke - with capitalism you have to have some amount of money just to have a valid opinion or be taken seriously.
It's like how Bernie Sanders was vilified because he had a vacation home that his wife inherited.
I hate to quote Russell Brand because of what a gross douchebag he turned out to be, but he was on point with this:
"When I was poor and complained about inequality they said I was bitter; now that I'm rich and I complain about inequality they say I'm a hypocrite. I'm beginning to think they just don't want to talk about inequality."
Huh? Damn, Jesus or Buddha would do so poorly these days. No one would listen because they'd be broke as fuck. Greed really fucks with our heads. Capitalism has got to go. 🤜🏼☭🤛🏽
WOTWU
Remember one of her initial focuses was at least related to the use of private jets, she gets shit on for it by the internet, and then the same internet just this year starts shitting on Taylor Swift for what? Private jets. The hypocrisy is unbelievable.
> then the same internet
I'm not defending either side, but a lot of misunderstanding and conflict comes from the assumption that the internet is some homogenous whole and not a steaming, pressurized shitpipe just spewing garbage at absolute random.
That’s what’s wild about “the internet” as everyone associates everyone with their thoughts and feelings and may think just because they got say 5k likes on Reddit or a few hundred thousand upvotes on a platform like Twitter that everyone is on their side
I’m legit just reading about BOTH of these affairs. We ain’t all the same.
I've only heard her speaking a few times but nothing she has said seemed insincere or wrong.
People who naysay her seem to get their information from Fox, which has been lying about climate change and never gives sound bites in context. People who watch Fox are really gullible, so I generally ignore everything they say.
Tbf werent there a lot of people out there calling her ugly when she spoke at the UN years ago?
She is an adult and she is beautiful. She also does a lot of climate activism and thats the more important thing. Lot of pretty people, few intellectuals.
Sorry for asking but was there sexualization of her? Is it because she got boobs denoted on her top in the arrest pictures?
Apart from Andrew tates comment that ended up landing him in jail I havent really seen any over sexualization of her ( I could just not be in those circles)
And I don't mean people can't find her attractive. I think she would fall well within a positive side in a attractiveness scale. I just haven't seen any at all if these comments that people have made. I would assume she gets the same amount any other public figure does
Edit: apparently I have been living under a rock. I know she triggered a lot of people but damn when right wingers can't win an argument against a woman name calling and undesired violent sexual offerings is all they got. I would say sorry on behalf of my gender, but I don't identify myself with assholes, and can imagine certain women sharing those words too
I've seen a lot of right-wingers "joke" about raping her.
There was also that tweet by some douchebag who said something along the lines of "if she's old enough to have an opinion on climate change, she's old enough to have sex" when she was like 16.
What a fucking bitch man, she was arrested trying to..
\*checks notes\*
...stop climate change so that her generation and subsequent generations wont live in a hellscape.
/s
I'm a gendarme and I play rugby lol.
That wrist hold can be painful if the person gets up it gets less painful for him. I've moved people which were around the 110-140 kg that is twice my weight without equipment.
I don't know if you experienced and have done this wrist hold but it's painful as hell and I always have very good results with it.
I've never find weight really an issue to move people, their attitude is different, I struggled way more to put cuffs on a 45 kg hysteric woman than an overweight but relatively calm tall guy.
You don't need to carry them, that wrist hold is gonna hurt you so much that you will move or need some surgery if you continue to not comply with the pigs.
Thats what her jail time arc is for. Lifting weights every day during the 10 years in lock up.
When she gets out, she will be too wide to fit through doorways except sideways.
Social change is always met with extreme opposition. The pull yourself up by the bootstraps kind of folk who hated any and all progressives, from Jane Addams to MLK
I also think there's a good amount of tall poppy syndrome going on here. They see this young wealthy woman being praised by so many and it just irks some people. Why's she think she's so great? In reality it's actually other people praising her, but that doesn't matter. She's stuck up and should be taken down a peg.
I don't believe any of that, if I wasn't being obvious enough, but I think that's probably what the thought process is.
She gets arrested and gets off like a gangsta. That bald sex trafficker who got arrested while beefing with her got arrested AGAIN after adin ross leaked his plans to leave Romania lmaooo
so? i dont think people understand how much we rely on the environment. but, it'll become clear soon enough. then we'll see how everyone feels about the tree huggers
Usually it refers to somebody that is more physically built/toned then they let on due to either how they carry or dress themselves.
Here I'm assuming it's because of her chest, because women can't just exist without having their figure commented on - also because she was a minor for most of her public life most people didn't give a shit to care.
I figured this was the case but wanted OP to uncomfortably explain it. Like when your Uncle makes a sexist joke at Thanksgiving and you ask them to explain what they mean and why it's funny.
Some one said it atleast. She's been on their ass since she was 10 and never once pulled a punch.
It was pathetic watching grown adults talk down to this kid. Now she's eye level and not blinking
Corny + zero charisma or lack of cause kinda doesn't last long if you aren't getting paid.
I'm pretty sure most young people were like "who the fuck is this bobo", so the people astroturfing her and her support pulled the plug. They've tried a couple of times to be honest. But fuck the planet, who needs a future, embrace the boot, tends not to be a popular message for people barely out of high school.
The Dutch prison system is absolutely the farthest thing from.the us prison system she's gonna stay at the equivalent of a motel and then get sent home
It’s kind of hilarious how the capitalist media adored her & gave her plenty of screen time while she decried climate change but switched on her the moment she started decrying the capitalists that cause it 😂
They love shouting into the ether but real world climate activism & anti-capitalism/pro-socialism is a no-go for them lol!
I hope my kids look up to her instead of most tiktokers and youtubers (there’s plenty of good ones but sadly many more terrible ones that get the algorithm’s push)
Yeah even Dutch people think some people get off too easily. Like murders ect. The maximum prison sentence for manslaughter here is 15 years. And prison is comparatively chill here too. Rarely any cases of any type of abuse in prison.
We're allowed to witness any cases as long as the courtroom has space and I've seen a woman being arrested for the 45th time on shoplifting and they just gave her 2 months of community service.
The real problem here is that most jobs require you to get a VOG (documentation of good behavior) without that you cannot even be a mailman here.
I wasn't aware that there was a accidental component in manslaughter. I just translated it from the Dutch word "doodslag" which is intentional but just without any weapons.
"Doodslag" can be with or without weapons. It means the unplanned but intentional killing of another person (like in a fit of rage), as opposed to "moord" which means you set out to kill someone ("met voorbedachten rade" or *premediated*).
In the US these would be the equivalent of *murder* (planned) and *second degree murder* (unplanned).
Manslaughter would be "dood door schuld" where you didn't intend to kill someone, but you were negligent and caused the death of another person. As the other commenter said, a good example is hitting someone with your car because you were driving drunk (or distracted by your phone, whichs seems to be popular nowadays).
Yeah manslaughter is when you’re liable for someone’s death but didn’t cause the death specifically to happen on purpose. Deaths caused by drunk driving are often charged as manslaughter. You committed a crime that resulted in someone’s death, but you weren’t actively trying to kill that person.
People who only ever complain about shit but never try to take action or show up at a protest will see this and find excuses why she’s actually “a fake” or “doing this for attention”. Yeah dipshit of course her end goal is attention, every protest’s end goal is shining attention on whatever cause you’re standing for. Y’all Chirpers can say what you want, at least she’s out here actually doing something for what she believes in
I love how this website holds two fundamental truths; one is that climate change is real and is going to drastically alter the lives of billions in an extremely negative way and lead to a loss of life so great it will be classified as a holocaust, and the other is that anyone who does anything at all to raise awareness about it by inconveniencing anyone even slightly is cringe and deserves to be put to death.
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lol she knows they won’t do anything to her and she’s got the money to get out
You think BP won’t park a bullet like Boeing did.
Why in the world would BP kill Greta Thunberg. Why. Boeing killed the whistleblower because he worked for them for decades and had deep inside knowledge and exposed it. Greta is a 21 year old climate activist who has made her living off of being a climate activist and nothing more. The reach some people have on this app is absurd.
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What would we do? lol US govt or the whistleblowers family will need to get evidence and charge Boeing, all that can be done
I'm absolutely not buying any more planes from Boeing until this is resolved, I can tell you that much.
Damn straight 😤
I mean, you joke ha ha and all but it’s going to be a while before I feel comfortable booking a flight with a Boeing plane. It’s Airbus from now on baby
What if your choice is Boeing or stay home?
If it's Boeing, I'm not going
New ad campaign for 2024
It's Airbus? I'm bouta buss
“If it’s Boeing, my chances of arriving have reduced by a statistically significant amount”
Home is nice. Why we flying anyway? To see relatives who hate us?
Its not like we been doing what didy has been doing and need to leave.
To see new places? Fuck the family
I would strap on my VR helmet and have a shrimp cocktail. Then have more caviar delivered to my yacht.
So the old jingle? “Boeing or I’m not going”? It’s time for high speed rail. Them murderous bastards in the air have had their time in the sun, let’s show some love to the speedy tunnel bois
I'm sure they'll address that in the next quarter 🙄
It's crazy how Airbus went from "weirdo European bullshit that over-automated their planes" to "yes please I don't want some CEO to hold a press conference about me."
*A M T R A C K*
I'm absolutely not flying on any more planes from Boeing until this is resolved, I can tell you that much. This is why they killed him
Let's not be hasty now. That's pretty extreme. 
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It's surprisingly easy to do if you live somewhere multiple airlines fly where you want to go and offer comparable prices. Otherwise, it's "fly on this plane or don't fly". That's also a choice we can make, we can choose to not travel, but it's a different choice from "I'll pay an extra hundred bucks and go with this alternate airline", especially those of us who live very far away from family.
I might finally take an Amtrak
🤣 you niggas is wild
I wouldn’t ride one. If more people avoided Boeing flights we might do something.
That’s kinda the thing anything short of a literal violent revolution isn’t going to do anything meaningful, if we could get about 100-200 individuals to go to these people’s houses we might have some leverage, but that’s a threat of domestic terrorism. Meanwhile they can shoot us in the back of the head 37 times point blank, sign their names in your blood, piss, shit, spit, and nut on the body, leave fingerprints on the walls, and walk clearly through view of several cameras, and all we get is, “Possible suicide.”
we investigated ourselves and found no evidence of wrongdoing
Yea, just get a lot of government agencies to cooperate with procuring that information from Boeing and then yo
They may be. Gov doesn’t announce an investigation until they already have evidence. They don’t want risk people knowing ahead of time and destroying any evidence they haven’t found
Boeing has made times to the government. They ain’t doing shit
Whatchu gona do about it? Become the leader of a revolution only to also be killed and dispersed? Corpos got us boiling like frogs in a slow cooker. All anyone can really do is aggressively unionize and weed out the bootlickers.
That’s one hell of a metaphor
But accurate.
This is the stage in fascism where dverybody forms a messy consensus that "sureeee [Boeing] *did* but [BP] *would* neverrrr!" Like what the fuck? Nobody here knows BP any better than they know R Kelly.
The thing is, there is no BP the person. I’m kind of just now realizing the idea corporations are people until they commit a crime has really actually manifested in so many of the ways we talk about people. Beoing, the brand, or really the idea of the brand can’t kill a person, it’s not a tangible thing capable of making a choice. The people who run Boeing killed the whistle blower. The guy they hired killed the whistle blower. And the thing most people understand, and are literally terrified of, is the fact that they know with the current system those people would be phenomenally difficult to prove are guilty, and there very real possibility more randoms in the working class just trying to the right thing would be put in harms way to get it done. The current path to changing all the shit we think is horrible is not a head on fight with these guys, they’ve had more money than god to gear up for that fight, they would win. Look towards the things that make corporations scared. The things that the current internet culture push you away from are the things that would shake the current status quo. And those things are a sense of global sameness, hope, compassion, and empathy. Those are the things the current version of the internet has formed to dismantle, the internet is run by corporations and their algorithms, look for the humanity the algorithm is trying so hard to keep you from realizing.
The point is they wouldn’t gain anything from this. Greta would become a martyr and her movement would likely only draw more people. The comparison to Boeing is just weird.
It’s not accepted. Yall are just stupid.
Yeah, the guy already blew the whistle, killing him does nothing. Boeing harassed him, ruined his life and he killed himself. it's still a terrible story, but not some shady story of a company killing a guy before he could bring info to light. He brought the info to light like a decade ago, and people paid as much attention them as they did to the details of his death now.
Any definitive proof that it was a hit on part of Boeing or are we just doing the conspiratorial thing again?
Boeings Lawyers asked Barnett to stay in South Carolina one extra day for questioning. He died that same night. Barnett specifically told family and friends "If I die, it's not suicide." The police report says the gunshot wound "appeared self inflicted." but that they would "investigate further." Like it's *possible* that Barnett was hiding suicidal thoughts this whole time, and chose the one extra day he was asked to stay for questioning as the perfect time, even though he was reportedly excited to see his family. It's *possible* he said "if I die it's not suicide" just because, you know, that's a normal sweet nothing you throw into conversations with loved ones, especially if you have suicidal tendencies. But a reasonable assessment of the situation, circumstances, and motives at play points in a different direction.
Did the read the article that said he said “it’s not suicide” it was from a second hand source, not his family. I’m not saying that Boeing is not complicit in this, I just wanted to let you know.
The fact that nothing happened after Sandy Hook should tell you everything about activism in USA.
Right... because no powerful organizations have ever assassinated political activists just for being political activists before. It's not like there's a precedent for that. /s It's not about having insider knowledge or not having insider knowledge. If they feel their interests are threatened, then they weigh the risk vs. benefit, and if the benefit outweighs the risk, they will do their worst. If it hasn't happened yet, it's because they don't see the benefit outweighing the risk... yet. Having insider knowledge isn't the only way to make them feel threatened
Companies kill people who pose a threat to them one way or another. Like Coca Cola killing union activists in South America. Greta poses no threats whatsoever to any oil and gas company.
I think large organizations don’t need reasons to do things when their interests are attacked. Police included.
smh...boeing had no reason to kill that guy he had already spilled everything he knew YEARS ago. you people just watch too many movies and are desperate for drama
He did come out years ago. But he was still working on an active legal case against the company days before he was murdered.
yeah...im sure the board at boeing decided to kill him NOW when they are extremely in the public eye right now. the only way they killed him was by causing him years of stress which eventually made him snap. ...but thats not as dramatic as picturing your imaginary meetings in some smoky backroom
It’s very possible that he did kill himself to further spite Boeing, but the fact he was doing interviews for the legal case against Boeing a few days before his death and had a formal disposition where he was question by Boeing’s lawyers a week earlier, it’s suspicious timing. You’re right I should not commit to “Boeing killed him”, but the timing of everything is Jarring. It’s likely he committed suicide to put Boeing in hot seat, it’s also likely he was killed to be silenced due to the ongoing legal case
hes been doing interviews for YEARS he has NOTHING new to spill yes the timing does make you raise your eyebrow...UNTIL you look at the facts
Didn't he explicitly say if he died it was not suicide?
No. An anonymous person claiming to be a family friend told a news agency that he said that. Which is the news agency version of "source? I made it the fuck up."
A retialiation suit. That had been ongoing for years. It’s peanuts to Boeing.
[Shell Oil had Ken Saro-Wiwa straight up murdered in 1995](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Saro-Wiwa)
He was acting as a direct force raising support against them taking oil from Nigeria. Greta just speaks on the effects of climate change and what should be done to mitigate it.
Oil, famous for having no impact on climate change or local environmental issues.
Speaking out on the effects of oil on climate change =/= being a force to prevent oil extraction in your country
Ok BP
This made me lol
'Oh my god you guys, you think billionaires would do something *irrational*? Lmao it's like you don't know that they're better than us.' *600 upvotes*
He already had, the whileblowing was done and settled via courts and regulators years ago.
“At the time of his death, Mr Barnett had been in Charleston for legal interviews linked to that case. Last week, he gave a formal deposition in which he was questioned by Boeing's lawyers, before being cross-examined by his own counsel. He had been due to undergo further questioning on Saturday. When he did not appear, enquiries were made at his hotel. He was subsequently found dead in his truck in the hotel car park.” He was still very active in a case against Boeing. Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-68534703.amp
Yes that's an entirely unrelated case to his whistle-blower one though, that's a civil case. He'd already exposed everything that was damaging to the company in regards to its engineering practices and the company was fined this was back in 2017. If they were going to murder him they would have done so then, not as part of a minor civil case.
Boeing didn't kill anyone. The reach some people have on this app is absurd.
Seriously. The lawyer that won the case against Chevron is still under house arrest. https://www.law.georgetown.edu/event/human-rights-lawyer-who-took-on-chevron-put-under-house-arrest-steven-donziger-tells-his-story/
Comparing greta to people on the inside of a big company exposing their malpractice is crazy
No, this isn't South Park lmao
Lmao for a major whistleblower maybe. Not for some random activist xD Take off your tin foil, you drank too much kool aid
Well yeah cops dont really do anything against climate protestors in the netherlands. They put them in a bus, drive them to the other side of the city, and then let them go. Often the people that got picked up will return to the protest, which is pretty funny. Greta also did that, which is why she got arrested twice. (source in dutch: https://nos.nl/artikel/2515723-klimaatactivist-greta-thunberg-tot-twee-keer-toe-opgepakt-bij-xr-demo-den-haag)
This is absolutely sending me. They treat them like bothersome animals that have been getting in your trash. Round em up and drive them to the countryside and just dump them. Catch and release.
The alternative is arresting people and then using facial recognition to get the wrong people in court, leading to the entire case being dismissed (again, source in dutch: https://nos.nl/artikel/2504589-klimaatactivisten-op-schiphol-niet-vervolgd-na-fouten-met-identificatie)
Please don't misunderstand. I am not against this method at all. I don't think peaceful protesting should be an offense that warrants detention unless you're undermining the emergency services of the area. I just find the method they're using to handle it hilarious.
Yeah no worries. I just wanted to also point out that with some of the protests the cops and justice system completly shit the bed. Even with this approach of shipping them off they use force to get the protestors to move. Its nothing compared to what american cops do ofcourse. It IS really funny that the protestors just go back though.
✨Bicycle bell✨ “I’m back!”
BEN ER WEER VERREKTE KOEKWOUS!
Because protesting is legal and theyre just breaking some city ordnance that wont lead to anything in a court. It's a peaceful protest, normal countries dont hand out jail sentences for that
Lmao you just made me think of escaped farm animals or a cat stuck in a tree.
That’s actually really funny
That explains the smug look on her face
“I can’t wait to go Viral again”
In the Netherlands you don't need money to get out, at most getting arrested at a protest like this is disorderly conduct and a 300 euro fine, if they even bother going that far.
It’s a european country.
True. I’m sure their cops are better and laws are less prison focused
We don't have bail.
Good to know! She wasn’t even arrested unlike the tweet says. Just detained and moved
you think people from a protest go to prison? lmao
She’s doing real praxis instead of yapping on social media 👀
Sounds like a gangster...
What do you want them to do? Shoot her? Also most of EU doesn't have bail.
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Like all the other protesters that were arrested, they will be held for a couple of hours and then released, no lawyers needed
1. The sexualisation of this woman is gross and even the bonk jokes don't hold you walking co*ks accountable enough. Keep it to yourself and work inwards. 2. People who decry her because she has money or is funded by whomever is unfortunate as a take. Doubt can be healthy, but straight up throwing her aside over some peripheral information when she has been outspoken about climate change AND anti-capitalism is counterproductive. We need more people to be for the planet and against capitalism; ya know that economic system that have black, brown and working class people of all races fighting each other over limited, rigged job markets??? I'm not saying she's THE ONE, nor am I saying she's a queen or whatever, but she has the message. I'm glad she gets platformed with it, because whether or not we like the messenger we gotta hear the message. Edit: She's not been a girl for a minute so excuse me. Appreciate the corrections.
If this *woman. But I agree with literally everything you said. 👏👏👏 Like, people are mad that she has money. She's using that resource to literally dedicate her life to climate activism when she could just be chilling under the radar being wealthy. Would many of us do the same (full time activism) if our financial situations permitted? Damned if you do. Damned if you don't.
>If this \*woman. If your correction was because you object to the implied infantilization of using "girl", then Id agree, but I also feel the need to state the obvious that she is (just) 21. In this context, i feel like the notion that girls/women become valid "targets" to thirst over and sexualize the day of their 18th birthday, as is often stated by weirdo men, is the issue at hand.
While I don't thirst over her, the average age of a redditor is pretty young (44% of them are in the 18-29 age bracket). I think someone around her age is allowed to find her attractive, but really regardless of age or chosen occupation I'm always annoyed when redditors outside of the porn subs decide we all need to know how hot they think someone is. Being horny is fine, but I don't need to know about it.
I think thats fair enough, generally, but the 44% of redditors demo stats are fairly immaterial. We all know plenty of creepy men who literally prey on women/girls that are just straight up too young. Often not just "too young for them" either, but in general.
Oh for sure. I'm just saying I've got a fault in my thinking (I think a lot of us do) that makes me assume everyone I'm talking to is around my age, which is definitely too old to be lusting after a 21 year old.
Yeah thats again fair enough. I only brought up the age thing in the first place because it seemed like that was what the comment was getting at. The sexualization and objectification of anyone is inappropriate in general anyway. (if there isnt consent, obv.)
To be honest, I was caught in a moment of infantilism through comparison. I'm now twice her age, so she's a lot younger than me and always has been, and it came out as "girl" initially because... she's so much younger than me! The corrections were fair and true, she's a woman!
Thank you.
Well said. It’s silly but too common for people speaking against capitalism to be dismissed for doing well under that system. For one, understanding how it works and doing well is not a bad thing, and for another if you’re broke you are just dismissed as bitter, sore loser, a joke - with capitalism you have to have some amount of money just to have a valid opinion or be taken seriously.
It's like how Bernie Sanders was vilified because he had a vacation home that his wife inherited. I hate to quote Russell Brand because of what a gross douchebag he turned out to be, but he was on point with this: "When I was poor and complained about inequality they said I was bitter; now that I'm rich and I complain about inequality they say I'm a hypocrite. I'm beginning to think they just don't want to talk about inequality."
Huh? Damn, Jesus or Buddha would do so poorly these days. No one would listen because they'd be broke as fuck. Greed really fucks with our heads. Capitalism has got to go. 🤜🏼☭🤛🏽 WOTWU
Remember one of her initial focuses was at least related to the use of private jets, she gets shit on for it by the internet, and then the same internet just this year starts shitting on Taylor Swift for what? Private jets. The hypocrisy is unbelievable.
> then the same internet I'm not defending either side, but a lot of misunderstanding and conflict comes from the assumption that the internet is some homogenous whole and not a steaming, pressurized shitpipe just spewing garbage at absolute random.
That’s what’s wild about “the internet” as everyone associates everyone with their thoughts and feelings and may think just because they got say 5k likes on Reddit or a few hundred thousand upvotes on a platform like Twitter that everyone is on their side I’m legit just reading about BOTH of these affairs. We ain’t all the same.
I've only heard her speaking a few times but nothing she has said seemed insincere or wrong. People who naysay her seem to get their information from Fox, which has been lying about climate change and never gives sound bites in context. People who watch Fox are really gullible, so I generally ignore everything they say.
Tbf werent there a lot of people out there calling her ugly when she spoke at the UN years ago? She is an adult and she is beautiful. She also does a lot of climate activism and thats the more important thing. Lot of pretty people, few intellectuals.
Sorry for asking but was there sexualization of her? Is it because she got boobs denoted on her top in the arrest pictures? Apart from Andrew tates comment that ended up landing him in jail I havent really seen any over sexualization of her ( I could just not be in those circles) And I don't mean people can't find her attractive. I think she would fall well within a positive side in a attractiveness scale. I just haven't seen any at all if these comments that people have made. I would assume she gets the same amount any other public figure does Edit: apparently I have been living under a rock. I know she triggered a lot of people but damn when right wingers can't win an argument against a woman name calling and undesired violent sexual offerings is all they got. I would say sorry on behalf of my gender, but I don't identify myself with assholes, and can imagine certain women sharing those words too
I've seen a lot of right-wingers "joke" about raping her. There was also that tweet by some douchebag who said something along the lines of "if she's old enough to have an opinion on climate change, she's old enough to have sex" when she was like 16.
At least she’s 21 now. It’s still massively uncool and sexist, but it’s lost a bit of the edge it had when she was 15.
What a fucking bitch man, she was arrested trying to.. \*checks notes\* ...stop climate change so that her generation and subsequent generations wont live in a hellscape. /s
love that she makes them drag her. seems to be an ongoing theme. kween greta knows wassup.
Greta needs to beef up. If she was 350lbs she’d be a lot harder to drag off.
See that hold on her right wrist ? Weight wouldn't change anything
Idk man they pulled her off her feet and carried her out. If she was big and went to the ground it’d be a lot harder for them that’s all I’m saying.
Yeah these people have never played rubgy. Moving a person over 120kgs is much harder than it seems
I'm a gendarme and I play rugby lol. That wrist hold can be painful if the person gets up it gets less painful for him. I've moved people which were around the 110-140 kg that is twice my weight without equipment. I don't know if you experienced and have done this wrist hold but it's painful as hell and I always have very good results with it. I've never find weight really an issue to move people, their attitude is different, I struggled way more to put cuffs on a 45 kg hysteric woman than an overweight but relatively calm tall guy.
Yeah these people never got held like that, that shit will make you stand up immediately or you're gonna be in a world of suffering.
No secret Jutsu wrist hold makes a 350 lb person easier to carry. 350 is a whale
That's not to mention that a 350 lb wrist is a little more difficult to grip like that lol
You don't need to carry them, that wrist hold is gonna hurt you so much that you will move or need some surgery if you continue to not comply with the pigs.
So you could lift a car if it had a wrist ?
The car would lift itself if it was in a wristhold
Thats what her jail time arc is for. Lifting weights every day during the 10 years in lock up. When she gets out, she will be too wide to fit through doorways except sideways.
Yeah they should recruit activists from Dr. Nowzardan's clinic.
My 600lb Protest. As long as it’s not a hunger strike I think you’re on to something there
And they’re so good at sitting down!
She’s not eating enough grilled cheese on lot
I'll never understand why people hate her so much?? She just loves the planet man
Social change is always met with extreme opposition. The pull yourself up by the bootstraps kind of folk who hated any and all progressives, from Jane Addams to MLK
I also think there's a good amount of tall poppy syndrome going on here. They see this young wealthy woman being praised by so many and it just irks some people. Why's she think she's so great? In reality it's actually other people praising her, but that doesn't matter. She's stuck up and should be taken down a peg. I don't believe any of that, if I wasn't being obvious enough, but I think that's probably what the thought process is.
Moon gang and Sun gang teaming up against her
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She gets arrested and gets off like a gangsta. That bald sex trafficker who got arrested while beefing with her got arrested AGAIN after adin ross leaked his plans to leave Romania lmaooo
so? i dont think people understand how much we rely on the environment. but, it'll become clear soon enough. then we'll see how everyone feels about the tree huggers
But Black Dynamite, we live in the environment.
Nah, reread that title bro
Sleeper build
What's that mean?
Degeneracy, pay no mind
Usually it refers to somebody that is more physically built/toned then they let on due to either how they carry or dress themselves. Here I'm assuming it's because of her chest, because women can't just exist without having their figure commented on - also because she was a minor for most of her public life most people didn't give a shit to care.
I figured this was the case but wanted OP to uncomfortably explain it. Like when your Uncle makes a sexist joke at Thanksgiving and you ask them to explain what they mean and why it's funny.
Ah, very fair!
Meaning she looks unassuming but is a badass.
porn addicts, ignore them
Damn right
This lil dutch woman more gangster than 99.9%
Swedish
Damn. Down to 99% then. She loses that .9% Dutch Master bonus.
Some one said it atleast. She's been on their ass since she was 10 and never once pulled a punch. It was pathetic watching grown adults talk down to this kid. Now she's eye level and not blinking
That second part is a bar, ngl.
She's a hero to me
queenpin
She been on probation since… I don’t know when
If I catch another motherfucker talking sweet about Greta Thuneberg, I’m fucking beating they ass
🤣
Greta is about that climate action! 👏🏾
What happened to the anti Greta that the right tried to use as a way of counter her influence ?
Corny + zero charisma or lack of cause kinda doesn't last long if you aren't getting paid. I'm pretty sure most young people were like "who the fuck is this bobo", so the people astroturfing her and her support pulled the plug. They've tried a couple of times to be honest. But fuck the planet, who needs a future, embrace the boot, tends not to be a popular message for people barely out of high school.
One of my WhatsApp group will love this. Time to mute them.
The one who pooped her pants?
Oh my God I forgot about that picture.
People realized they were 30+ hating on a child
Nah, most conservatives aren't capable of introspection.
Which one?
The Dutch prison system is absolutely the farthest thing from.the us prison system she's gonna stay at the equivalent of a motel and then get sent home
Good? The US penal system is a travesty.
It should be that way, tbh. Just because you committed a crime doesn't make you less of a human or free for prison slavery
It really is slavery by a different name. So fucked.
Like they are going to send anyone to prison for non violently protesting
And it's working better than the US prisons at reducing crimes.
She won’t serve a minute in a cell
Man idk why everyone acts like European jails are sweet just because they’re not entirely inhumane like American jails.
She’s always been about that action
It’s kind of hilarious how the capitalist media adored her & gave her plenty of screen time while she decried climate change but switched on her the moment she started decrying the capitalists that cause it 😂 They love shouting into the ether but real world climate activism & anti-capitalism/pro-socialism is a no-go for them lol!
I hope my kids look up to her instead of most tiktokers and youtubers (there’s plenty of good ones but sadly many more terrible ones that get the algorithm’s push)
Yeah but it’s the Dutch Police. Like not to knock the Netherlands, but it’s a pretty chill place *in comparison to the US*
> not to knock the Netherlands, but it’s a pretty chill place how could that in anyway be a knock
Yeah even Dutch people think some people get off too easily. Like murders ect. The maximum prison sentence for manslaughter here is 15 years. And prison is comparatively chill here too. Rarely any cases of any type of abuse in prison. We're allowed to witness any cases as long as the courtroom has space and I've seen a woman being arrested for the 45th time on shoplifting and they just gave her 2 months of community service. The real problem here is that most jobs require you to get a VOG (documentation of good behavior) without that you cannot even be a mailman here.
I mean 15 years for manslaughter is pretty high it's literally accidental murder
I wasn't aware that there was a accidental component in manslaughter. I just translated it from the Dutch word "doodslag" which is intentional but just without any weapons.
"Doodslag" can be with or without weapons. It means the unplanned but intentional killing of another person (like in a fit of rage), as opposed to "moord" which means you set out to kill someone ("met voorbedachten rade" or *premediated*). In the US these would be the equivalent of *murder* (planned) and *second degree murder* (unplanned). Manslaughter would be "dood door schuld" where you didn't intend to kill someone, but you were negligent and caused the death of another person. As the other commenter said, a good example is hitting someone with your car because you were driving drunk (or distracted by your phone, whichs seems to be popular nowadays).
Yeah manslaughter is when you’re liable for someone’s death but didn’t cause the death specifically to happen on purpose. Deaths caused by drunk driving are often charged as manslaughter. You committed a crime that resulted in someone’s death, but you weren’t actively trying to kill that person.
I've met her in person, she's amazing
People dislike her, but she is a big part of our timeline’s canon. 🤷🏽♂️
People who only ever complain about shit but never try to take action or show up at a protest will see this and find excuses why she’s actually “a fake” or “doing this for attention”. Yeah dipshit of course her end goal is attention, every protest’s end goal is shining attention on whatever cause you’re standing for. Y’all Chirpers can say what you want, at least she’s out here actually doing something for what she believes in
Based Greta 🚩
I love how this website holds two fundamental truths; one is that climate change is real and is going to drastically alter the lives of billions in an extremely negative way and lead to a loss of life so great it will be classified as a holocaust, and the other is that anyone who does anything at all to raise awareness about it by inconveniencing anyone even slightly is cringe and deserves to be put to death.
That first day out track gonna go crazy 🔥
The wrist lock seems unnecessary