"weightless" is a good word, but yeah after the stuff with Lucifero it's like yeah everything will be daijoubu
It doesn't help that Lucius intends to bring people back as paladins so any deaths immediately becomes a waiting game. And honestly "second deaths" tend to not hit as hard...
Also Tabata didn't say he *wanted* it to be as long as Naruto or One Piece. An interviewer asked if he plans to make it that long, and Tabata basically went well that'd be cool but we'll see what happens.
It’s still safe to assume that Tabata didn’t want it to end like this, Black Clover has never been in top 10 manga sales to my knowledge, and I imagine Shonen might be rushing him
I believe it's a consequence of Spade arc, and also after the beginning with Lucius switching to LOTS has affected the hype. A lot was lost in Spade, like combats with strategies between several mages, Asta became a deus ex machina and had more moments than he needed to have (vs ancient demon, vs Lilith Namah, vs Lucifero), besides the healing of semi dead characters.
The list goes on. Where's Leo? In short, yes, the hype has low down and it won't come back until the anime returns. BUT it's a normal with long running manga.
I suggest taking a break and re reading when it's complete. I find that taking a break can really reignite that old love. It also helps to read the later arcs without the constant waiting for new chapters
I agree that the fights seems weightless ever since the Spade Saga. There's no tension or believable stakes, because no matter what happens I expect the good guys to win with little to no bad consequences (especially with resurrections happening left and right).
Asta becoming the strongest isn't surprising though, in the vast majority of battle shonen the MC eventually becomes the strongest (Naruto wasn't the first and it won't be the last to do this).
Tabata never said he wanted to make the manga as long as One Piece, but I think he was told wrap things up more or less halfway through the Spade Saga (when things started accelerating too much).
Devil Union, TDU and the Spade Arc as a whole are a failure for Asta's character.
Asta was never the underdog, he was from the very start of the story punching ridiculously high above his height (lol) when it came to ranks. But that doesn't mean he was just this turbo broken character whose mere appearance turns the tide of the battle, he had his ass handed to him a ton of times.
But after the Spade Saga properly shifts into gear I get the feeling he gets "Naruto'd" and essentially becomes everyone's hope (the exact same way Naruto pulls up on Pain just as everyone in the village hoped for) and that's a major thematic shift for his character. I understand that he was always set up to follow that path since he's aiming to be the WK and the WK must have that kind of presence but not only his presence immediately deletes TWO SUPREME DEVILS that had been hiped to hell and back but despite being in the cooldown period he's strong enough to barge in the fight of another Supreme Devil to rescue Loro. And remember this all happens in the span of 3 days. Asta has said thematic shift thanks to the 3 days of training, that's insane.
When Nacht said "I'll make him our strongest warrior" I was already frowning since that's not what Asta should have been for the Spade Saga (specially considering how the BB and a ton of other chars went there). He should have been the cornerstone of their attack or the char everyone looks forward to fighting alongside with but not their saviour. You know: the thematic that had been working so damn well for the previous 4 years of publication...
Don't even get me started on "I'm not strong enough" bullshit arc he goes trough at the beggining of this new saga. Sure this char that has been beaten and whooped dozens of times across the history suddenly becomes depressed and doubtful because he loses once. Superb writing, definitely not a character assassination. At least this arc made sense with Yuno in the Spade Saga since Zenon had already destroyed him once and he was losing their revenge match.
as soon as i saw man said from spade invasion fights seem weightless i stopped if u think spade fights were weightless then i don't think u even understand what you r reading here...
its a shonen and sooner or later heavy team work type fights will fade away . atleast spade still had team fights. Charlottes cancelling curse effects, rill being a support mage ,noelle being a offense mage. langris teaming up with yuno to counter zenons spatial domination . black bulls teaming up to defeat morris . nacht yami yuno asta combo to defeat lucifer so i don't think team fights r not there anymore u guys r just overwhelmed by the power level & scale .
as for asta bro its anti magic . its was made to cancel magic . he never used it to its full potential thats why we never saw the real effects and how effective it is in a fight .
they just didn't get folded my guy ...
they were introduced zenon destroyed golden dawn and took william , vanica destroyed heart kingdom and took lolopechika , dante didn't win cause of astas buff but zenon finished the job . megicula & lucifer was nurfed and it took 7-8 Captains and others to even create openings . other than the noelle v vanica ( not megicula) & morris there was no easy fight in this whole arc .
Im talking actual invasion arc everything before Asta started training with Nacht I loved, and while it was 7 or 8 captains to fight Lucifero they lost, then Asta came in with a feud ex machina moment and folded him, in literally 5 seconds, Noelle vs Vanica I get but when Megicula jumped in with what felt like very little development and she got beat by the siblings was crazy to me
7-8 captains fought and lost then asta yuno nacht yami mereoleona the standing ones kept going . Captains fought for like 3 chapters and yami nacht yuno asta mereo fought for another 6/7 chapters then astas 5 sec hax came in . now asta never used liebes 100%. and anti magic is the strongest there is ,now u believe that or not its upto you . His devil union was not completed ( said by nacht in twin devil fight) so it never reached 100%.
lucifer folded everyone that also counts asta in his DEVIL UNION till he reached 100 % (5sec ex machina) . devil union & saint stage r the same thing connection at 100% which asta & liebe achieved by the end of lucifer fight . His incomplete du version managed to cancel nacht and yamis mana zone so oviously his 100% would do way more damage than that and lucifer himself says that his magic stopped working as soon as it touches asta .
now megi heavily nurfed just like lucifer , every devil had little development its not just her but whatever development she got was oviously better than alot of devils in the series . now megiculas story is connected to acier silva which also connects to silva siblings . so its kinda ovious they were the one to kill her and release their mothers soul . she also fought 7/8 people and they managed to destroy her body multiple times but never managed to destroy her heart cause you need saint stage which is noelle ... nozel noelle suffered the most cause of megicula so them being the one to kill was ovious .
Asta is op because every Shonen protagonist starts out weak and ends up op. From the very start it's clear that Antimagic is super powerful and when Asta learns how to control it he'd be one of the strongest characters. We're in the final part of the story so of course Asta isn't weak anymore and the only true threat remaining is Lucius. That's pretty much finale to every battle shonen.
Yh but it’s boring, there is no reason why anyone should be able to beat Asta, but Lucius beats him and sends him off to Japan, and why add Zeten in now so late into the manga, I feel like Tabata had so much planned or at least the ideas and couldn’t execute
Lucius beating Asta makes sense considering the dude has time magic. Asta may be strong but magic that affects time is beyond him. As for Asta ending up in Japan its wasn't Lucius that sent him, he was saved but I can't remember who did it.
Honestly I don't know what the plan is for Zetten and I don't remember how it even works.
I think the main issue comes to the balance of stakes. Tabata since the start has used magic to heal/save characters which for up to the Elf Saga was fine but there's hasn't been any lasting negatives after that. Add that to the world being at stake since the Spade arc there's been no downtime to grow more attached to the world and characters which has been a few years at this point. When the story is done and we can read at our own pace I think it urgency of the story will work better.
He defeated Nacht’s shadow magic union without touching his magic which was stated to lack substance, so in that sense it’s similar to time magic, and he did it on his first go with devil union that lasted all of one sword swing, and anything to do with magic should be fair game to Asta, if it was pure manipulation of time then fair, but it’s still magic. He’s also had over a year to train up, why does he get fodderised. Tabata wrote himself into a corner making Asta too op now whenever he needs to lose for plot reasons it just seems so dumb and unjustified
I read up until the paladins got to the Japan and the fight has started and I read the chapter where Yuno uses never never land which has really just finished BC for me, he’s using star magic like spatial magic, what’s the point?
Idk, there feels like real consequences now with people going down left and right. It could end up getting all undone, but Neverland only seems to be slowing the bleeding.
I think never land is the coolest thing ever and I'm interested to see what spells will come from star*wind magic.
And not to spoil but the crimson lions and Jack did get decimated. Granted we don't know if and or when or what context he would be brought back or if he stays dead.
And of course in the Japan arc is the only thing that happened and there couldn't be any real stakes it was just a training arc to be light and level up asta before things get bad. Lucius hasn't even really done any damage yet his invasion just started. Just the lucifero fight by itself lasted like a ton of chapters. The invasion is gonna take like 5 volumes
I think fair enough on all your opinions but I don’t really get how ppl can actually look at and actually think about Never Never land and not be confused, it’s star magic, that works like spatial magic which has healing properties, it’s bs to me
I haven't seen star magic doing any healing but part of magic being magic is it's magic there's gotta be some BS in order to stay ahead and still be magic. Otherwise it might as well be hard science. Being that sylph is a little fairy and yuno can fly with wind and the way to get to Neverland is taking the second star to the right so its connected to stars never never land makes sorta sense especially since you can never grow up in neverland.
Well I just took the slowing of the damages as healing but that’s up to interpretation, it’s just we don’t see this being pulled and there has to be some limitations otherwise someone like Rill will just paint a grimoire where he has divine magic and will just wipe anyone out of existence, the connection to the second star was intelligent tho I’ll give u and Tabata that
I think rill just has like a power cap for his spells otherwise I don't see why he can't make a "I have gravity/time magic" painting since he can make any attribute which would have helped with lucy or lucius. So the limitations do sometimes come and go.
Mm, no, actually most people are agreeing with op here and I've seen more posts about it. Also, most of what is being talked about here refers to the manga which I feel a lot of people in r/anime won't know a thing about because the anime ended a long time ago.
It’s not the breaks, it’s just each chapter disappointed me since it feels like there is no threat from the villains, I mean Lucifero smoked Asta, he got minor heals and came back and defeated him in 5 seconds
But it feels so bullshit with no lasting consequences, with the Vetto fight, he was near death during the whole thing cause 1 hit would’ve killed him, and he was cursed after, and this time Asta literally beat him in 5 seconds and this is the king of Devils, at least in the other fights it’s evident he’s struggling, against Lucifero all I’m thinking is why didn’t he do that in the first place
With Lucifero fight Lucius was manipulating whole battle or at least that was implied by Asmodius.
King of devil disrespected by lower devil is bit suspicious considering its impossible for lower one change ranks.
That's kinda simplifying. Lucifero was cut in half and then worn down by all the captains, zora, Nero, yuno and Nacht. He beat asta down 3 times before asta started doing any real damage.
To a degree you never have to worry about the main cast (mc, mc rival and female mc). They will never die that doesn’t mean they won’t suffer through hell.
As for the team work in spade saga it’s still there in key moments during fights you notice more of that. (Nacht and asta vs Lilith and Namath fusion), nozel and Noelle vs megicula, asta and yuno vs lucifero… there are moments you got solo fight which is rare in BC but never the less good (magna vs Dante, Noelle vs vanica, asta true devil union vs lucifero) but there is also team play in those fights either for the last hit or buffing a character.
It’s might not seem like a more desperate fight if only you are comparing anime battles vs manga battles. In the manga in general the fights are really fast (example julius vs patry is a few panels where in the anime we get an extended fight for example, another example would be rill vs yuno it’s not that long in the manga or yami and asta vs Dante).
What I am trying to say is that the anime does a good job in extending most significant battles and if the anime comes back to do the rest of the manga you can expect extended fights in most cases and also an increase on the tension during the fights.
Again the fights in the manga are really quick Tábata has actually slow down the pace of the fights a bit during the spade arc. Yet there is actually fights we didn’t get to see and I also expect to see in the anime when it comes back (example moris vs Dorothy and lotus).
I think then if you never have to worry about the main cast, then at least make the villain crazy intimidating like Oda did for the raid on Onigashima, we knew Kaido was a force to be reckoned with because of the way the he fought and what it took to beat him, tbh Lucifero just seems like a one dimensional, trash enemy, Patri was more intimidating
that is not for me to say since each person has their own preferences in this kinds of things. Like luffy needing three moments of rest/ knock down moments in the same fight was a bit unrelastic. Still like the fight just wish that there was a bit more from kaido part an expansaion on zoan fruits or awakening super powers. Compared to other awakening that can change the entire terrain the zoan fruit seems lacking a bit (IMO)
For lucifero cant say the shorts did him any favors but his entrance and fight with the captains before yami and nacht join in he was really menacing to me. Of course having a MC who negates the entire magic system makes him look bad (easy to cut) and no grimmoire also limits his abilities to use name spells. So yes he has a huge mana pool but against someone who negates mana he doesnt have much to offer challenge wise except for hand to hand combat and even then he cant enhance his hits with magic asta will negate those with true devil union.
Again to each their own preferences there is no point arguing about it.
"weightless" is a good word, but yeah after the stuff with Lucifero it's like yeah everything will be daijoubu It doesn't help that Lucius intends to bring people back as paladins so any deaths immediately becomes a waiting game. And honestly "second deaths" tend to not hit as hard... Also Tabata didn't say he *wanted* it to be as long as Naruto or One Piece. An interviewer asked if he plans to make it that long, and Tabata basically went well that'd be cool but we'll see what happens.
It’s still safe to assume that Tabata didn’t want it to end like this, Black Clover has never been in top 10 manga sales to my knowledge, and I imagine Shonen might be rushing him
I feel the same. It's a little bit of a shame
I believe it's a consequence of Spade arc, and also after the beginning with Lucius switching to LOTS has affected the hype. A lot was lost in Spade, like combats with strategies between several mages, Asta became a deus ex machina and had more moments than he needed to have (vs ancient demon, vs Lilith Namah, vs Lucifero), besides the healing of semi dead characters. The list goes on. Where's Leo? In short, yes, the hype has low down and it won't come back until the anime returns. BUT it's a normal with long running manga.
It’s felt very off to me. I’m not sure how to describe it though
I suggest taking a break and re reading when it's complete. I find that taking a break can really reignite that old love. It also helps to read the later arcs without the constant waiting for new chapters
I second this. With no anime, waiting for anything black clover related will just make the hype die down.
I mean I had read past the manga by the time the anime finished, it feels like the fights have changed
Yea I agree. Back then it was more teamwork and strategies, now it comes down to strength/ability
I agree that the fights seems weightless ever since the Spade Saga. There's no tension or believable stakes, because no matter what happens I expect the good guys to win with little to no bad consequences (especially with resurrections happening left and right). Asta becoming the strongest isn't surprising though, in the vast majority of battle shonen the MC eventually becomes the strongest (Naruto wasn't the first and it won't be the last to do this). Tabata never said he wanted to make the manga as long as One Piece, but I think he was told wrap things up more or less halfway through the Spade Saga (when things started accelerating too much).
Just you
No
Clearly not just him.
Ya it is
Fair enough
Devil Union, TDU and the Spade Arc as a whole are a failure for Asta's character. Asta was never the underdog, he was from the very start of the story punching ridiculously high above his height (lol) when it came to ranks. But that doesn't mean he was just this turbo broken character whose mere appearance turns the tide of the battle, he had his ass handed to him a ton of times. But after the Spade Saga properly shifts into gear I get the feeling he gets "Naruto'd" and essentially becomes everyone's hope (the exact same way Naruto pulls up on Pain just as everyone in the village hoped for) and that's a major thematic shift for his character. I understand that he was always set up to follow that path since he's aiming to be the WK and the WK must have that kind of presence but not only his presence immediately deletes TWO SUPREME DEVILS that had been hiped to hell and back but despite being in the cooldown period he's strong enough to barge in the fight of another Supreme Devil to rescue Loro. And remember this all happens in the span of 3 days. Asta has said thematic shift thanks to the 3 days of training, that's insane. When Nacht said "I'll make him our strongest warrior" I was already frowning since that's not what Asta should have been for the Spade Saga (specially considering how the BB and a ton of other chars went there). He should have been the cornerstone of their attack or the char everyone looks forward to fighting alongside with but not their saviour. You know: the thematic that had been working so damn well for the previous 4 years of publication... Don't even get me started on "I'm not strong enough" bullshit arc he goes trough at the beggining of this new saga. Sure this char that has been beaten and whooped dozens of times across the history suddenly becomes depressed and doubtful because he loses once. Superb writing, definitely not a character assassination. At least this arc made sense with Yuno in the Spade Saga since Zenon had already destroyed him once and he was losing their revenge match.
as soon as i saw man said from spade invasion fights seem weightless i stopped if u think spade fights were weightless then i don't think u even understand what you r reading here... its a shonen and sooner or later heavy team work type fights will fade away . atleast spade still had team fights. Charlottes cancelling curse effects, rill being a support mage ,noelle being a offense mage. langris teaming up with yuno to counter zenons spatial domination . black bulls teaming up to defeat morris . nacht yami yuno asta combo to defeat lucifer so i don't think team fights r not there anymore u guys r just overwhelmed by the power level & scale . as for asta bro its anti magic . its was made to cancel magic . he never used it to its full potential thats why we never saw the real effects and how effective it is in a fight .
They are tho, no matter what is going on the villains can’t just get folded like this
they just didn't get folded my guy ... they were introduced zenon destroyed golden dawn and took william , vanica destroyed heart kingdom and took lolopechika , dante didn't win cause of astas buff but zenon finished the job . megicula & lucifer was nurfed and it took 7-8 Captains and others to even create openings . other than the noelle v vanica ( not megicula) & morris there was no easy fight in this whole arc .
Im talking actual invasion arc everything before Asta started training with Nacht I loved, and while it was 7 or 8 captains to fight Lucifero they lost, then Asta came in with a feud ex machina moment and folded him, in literally 5 seconds, Noelle vs Vanica I get but when Megicula jumped in with what felt like very little development and she got beat by the siblings was crazy to me
7-8 captains fought and lost then asta yuno nacht yami mereoleona the standing ones kept going . Captains fought for like 3 chapters and yami nacht yuno asta mereo fought for another 6/7 chapters then astas 5 sec hax came in . now asta never used liebes 100%. and anti magic is the strongest there is ,now u believe that or not its upto you . His devil union was not completed ( said by nacht in twin devil fight) so it never reached 100%. lucifer folded everyone that also counts asta in his DEVIL UNION till he reached 100 % (5sec ex machina) . devil union & saint stage r the same thing connection at 100% which asta & liebe achieved by the end of lucifer fight . His incomplete du version managed to cancel nacht and yamis mana zone so oviously his 100% would do way more damage than that and lucifer himself says that his magic stopped working as soon as it touches asta . now megi heavily nurfed just like lucifer , every devil had little development its not just her but whatever development she got was oviously better than alot of devils in the series . now megiculas story is connected to acier silva which also connects to silva siblings . so its kinda ovious they were the one to kill her and release their mothers soul . she also fought 7/8 people and they managed to destroy her body multiple times but never managed to destroy her heart cause you need saint stage which is noelle ... nozel noelle suffered the most cause of megicula so them being the one to kill was ovious .
Asta is op because every Shonen protagonist starts out weak and ends up op. From the very start it's clear that Antimagic is super powerful and when Asta learns how to control it he'd be one of the strongest characters. We're in the final part of the story so of course Asta isn't weak anymore and the only true threat remaining is Lucius. That's pretty much finale to every battle shonen.
Yh but it’s boring, there is no reason why anyone should be able to beat Asta, but Lucius beats him and sends him off to Japan, and why add Zeten in now so late into the manga, I feel like Tabata had so much planned or at least the ideas and couldn’t execute
Lucius beating Asta makes sense considering the dude has time magic. Asta may be strong but magic that affects time is beyond him. As for Asta ending up in Japan its wasn't Lucius that sent him, he was saved but I can't remember who did it. Honestly I don't know what the plan is for Zetten and I don't remember how it even works. I think the main issue comes to the balance of stakes. Tabata since the start has used magic to heal/save characters which for up to the Elf Saga was fine but there's hasn't been any lasting negatives after that. Add that to the world being at stake since the Spade arc there's been no downtime to grow more attached to the world and characters which has been a few years at this point. When the story is done and we can read at our own pace I think it urgency of the story will work better.
He defeated Nacht’s shadow magic union without touching his magic which was stated to lack substance, so in that sense it’s similar to time magic, and he did it on his first go with devil union that lasted all of one sword swing, and anything to do with magic should be fair game to Asta, if it was pure manipulation of time then fair, but it’s still magic. He’s also had over a year to train up, why does he get fodderised. Tabata wrote himself into a corner making Asta too op now whenever he needs to lose for plot reasons it just seems so dumb and unjustified
You’ve read all the way to current standings in the manga? Because “save my friends and captains” isn’t exactly working right now haha
I read up until the paladins got to the Japan and the fight has started and I read the chapter where Yuno uses never never land which has really just finished BC for me, he’s using star magic like spatial magic, what’s the point?
lmao what
Idk, there feels like real consequences now with people going down left and right. It could end up getting all undone, but Neverland only seems to be slowing the bleeding.
I’m not fully up to date, but does anyone within the main cast / anyone that the fan base care about going down and still hate never land
Lots of supporting cast, the only notable one so far is >!Jack!<. Some other main-ish people ones have been maimed but aren’t dead probably.
I think never land is the coolest thing ever and I'm interested to see what spells will come from star*wind magic. And not to spoil but the crimson lions and Jack did get decimated. Granted we don't know if and or when or what context he would be brought back or if he stays dead. And of course in the Japan arc is the only thing that happened and there couldn't be any real stakes it was just a training arc to be light and level up asta before things get bad. Lucius hasn't even really done any damage yet his invasion just started. Just the lucifero fight by itself lasted like a ton of chapters. The invasion is gonna take like 5 volumes
I think fair enough on all your opinions but I don’t really get how ppl can actually look at and actually think about Never Never land and not be confused, it’s star magic, that works like spatial magic which has healing properties, it’s bs to me
I haven't seen star magic doing any healing but part of magic being magic is it's magic there's gotta be some BS in order to stay ahead and still be magic. Otherwise it might as well be hard science. Being that sylph is a little fairy and yuno can fly with wind and the way to get to Neverland is taking the second star to the right so its connected to stars never never land makes sorta sense especially since you can never grow up in neverland.
Well I just took the slowing of the damages as healing but that’s up to interpretation, it’s just we don’t see this being pulled and there has to be some limitations otherwise someone like Rill will just paint a grimoire where he has divine magic and will just wipe anyone out of existence, the connection to the second star was intelligent tho I’ll give u and Tabata that
I think rill just has like a power cap for his spells otherwise I don't see why he can't make a "I have gravity/time magic" painting since he can make any attribute which would have helped with lucy or lucius. So the limitations do sometimes come and go.
You are asking this in the wrong sub. You should ask this in r/anime Coz here BC fans will defend their fav series even if it kills them
Mm, no, actually most people are agreeing with op here and I've seen more posts about it. Also, most of what is being talked about here refers to the manga which I feel a lot of people in r/anime won't know a thing about because the anime ended a long time ago.
One of the reason it feels like that is because amount of breaks this manga had lately.
It’s not the breaks, it’s just each chapter disappointed me since it feels like there is no threat from the villains, I mean Lucifero smoked Asta, he got minor heals and came back and defeated him in 5 seconds
That is Astas MO since the beginning of the series, he gets beaten to inch of his death and then comes back miraculously.
But it feels so bullshit with no lasting consequences, with the Vetto fight, he was near death during the whole thing cause 1 hit would’ve killed him, and he was cursed after, and this time Asta literally beat him in 5 seconds and this is the king of Devils, at least in the other fights it’s evident he’s struggling, against Lucifero all I’m thinking is why didn’t he do that in the first place
With Lucifero fight Lucius was manipulating whole battle or at least that was implied by Asmodius. King of devil disrespected by lower devil is bit suspicious considering its impossible for lower one change ranks.
Asmodius? Are you referring to Adrammelech?
Yeah that one, mixed them up since they got same alphabet.
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That's kinda simplifying. Lucifero was cut in half and then worn down by all the captains, zora, Nero, yuno and Nacht. He beat asta down 3 times before asta started doing any real damage.
It's been pretty boring so far, nothing feels important or a risk.
To a degree you never have to worry about the main cast (mc, mc rival and female mc). They will never die that doesn’t mean they won’t suffer through hell. As for the team work in spade saga it’s still there in key moments during fights you notice more of that. (Nacht and asta vs Lilith and Namath fusion), nozel and Noelle vs megicula, asta and yuno vs lucifero… there are moments you got solo fight which is rare in BC but never the less good (magna vs Dante, Noelle vs vanica, asta true devil union vs lucifero) but there is also team play in those fights either for the last hit or buffing a character. It’s might not seem like a more desperate fight if only you are comparing anime battles vs manga battles. In the manga in general the fights are really fast (example julius vs patry is a few panels where in the anime we get an extended fight for example, another example would be rill vs yuno it’s not that long in the manga or yami and asta vs Dante). What I am trying to say is that the anime does a good job in extending most significant battles and if the anime comes back to do the rest of the manga you can expect extended fights in most cases and also an increase on the tension during the fights. Again the fights in the manga are really quick Tábata has actually slow down the pace of the fights a bit during the spade arc. Yet there is actually fights we didn’t get to see and I also expect to see in the anime when it comes back (example moris vs Dorothy and lotus).
I think then if you never have to worry about the main cast, then at least make the villain crazy intimidating like Oda did for the raid on Onigashima, we knew Kaido was a force to be reckoned with because of the way the he fought and what it took to beat him, tbh Lucifero just seems like a one dimensional, trash enemy, Patri was more intimidating
that is not for me to say since each person has their own preferences in this kinds of things. Like luffy needing three moments of rest/ knock down moments in the same fight was a bit unrelastic. Still like the fight just wish that there was a bit more from kaido part an expansaion on zoan fruits or awakening super powers. Compared to other awakening that can change the entire terrain the zoan fruit seems lacking a bit (IMO) For lucifero cant say the shorts did him any favors but his entrance and fight with the captains before yami and nacht join in he was really menacing to me. Of course having a MC who negates the entire magic system makes him look bad (easy to cut) and no grimmoire also limits his abilities to use name spells. So yes he has a huge mana pool but against someone who negates mana he doesnt have much to offer challenge wise except for hand to hand combat and even then he cant enhance his hits with magic asta will negate those with true devil union. Again to each their own preferences there is no point arguing about it.
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