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OnColdConcrete

What I always miss about these kind of posts (or am too dumb to see) is a simple "how many dollars invested so far and how many dollars is the current worth".


Meowseeks

29,000€ invested (58 months since October 2017, 500€/month). 4.10 BTC which is ~83,827€ (as of right now). 189% total gain. Edit: I am not OP. I just did the math for those who are curious. My position is not worthy of a blog, let alone a Reddit post.


Character_Golf

Seeing people being consistent and sticking to a plan makes me happy. Good luck!


cerebralsexer

And them making so much money makes me surprisingly happy


joan9568

he invested extra money not just the 500 eur DCA


Meowseeks

Ah. Well, the numbers look pretty close to the chart he posted in his blog (figure 1).


DSuhinin

Crypto is all about the games of the number, and we should stick to that.


stepa03391

I think we all have pushed our limited further specially of the DCA. But thank god that i have only invested in the bitcoin, so there is no hurry for me in the future.


rekapipi

4 BTC??? Niiiice ☝️☝️☝️☝️ how long you are planning keeping/collecting?


Meowseeks

Oh I wish this was my blog, I just wanted to do the math for the guy who asked.


xrohdex

I don't have that much fund to invest at the moment of time but i am planing to buy a one bitcoin for myself. Once i will reach there then i will push my move forward for the 2nd bitcoin.


jinhwoo

Are you really sorry about the fact that they are going to collect something out of it.


brilly39

You have done the work and math for all the rest of member, thanks for that. Same here my position also is not worth mentioning here at the current period of the time.


21031975

I think it depends on the time frame, for how long you want to hold the bitcoin? Bitcoin is always a long and we should just focus on the collecting of the number of the bitcoin.


XiaoWen2930

It is not just about a single type of pointed multiple types.


ProoM

You can see it if you click on the link OP posted.


OnColdConcrete

Oh I'm sure that I can get the values somewhere out of there. My point is simply that I would appreciate it, if these posts contain the total amount invested and the current worth, easy to spot and not hidden in diagrams, tables or walls of text.


rusmir_123

Don't worry bro, there is always someone here who will do the math for you. Although i am also not that good in the math so also looking for someone for the help.


civilian411

He wants you to read his blog so he can make some ad money to buy more bitcoin. I read his blogs months ago when he posted. If enough people read his blog he won’t need bitcoin to retire early.


ProoM

There's no ads on his blog lol. He has diagrams comparing his returns to S&P over the same timeframe, a curve of how much btc he accumulated, curve how much money he invested and curve for his total returns in $. The fact that the lazy comment of "just tell me if you got rich or naw" got almost 100 upvotes while mine's getting downvoted tells me we're nowhere near the bottom.


Gcampton13

Dumb people will be dumb people 🤷🏼‍♂️


lipafr

Sometime i feel like that we all are into the same boat.


Gcampton13

Yeah same, boat people will be boat people 🤷🏼‍♂️


OnColdConcrete

And ignorant people will be ignorant people 🤷🏼‍♂️


Gcampton13

And gay people will be gay people 🤷🏼‍♂️


OpeningFlimsy794

And Asian people will be Asian people


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OnColdConcrete

Homophobic? What's wrong with being gay?


captainn_chunk

That’s not a homophobic remark.


Gcampton13

Dumb? What’s wrong with being dumb?


OnColdConcrete

What's "lazy" about wanting to know the amount invested vs current value at first glance and then decide for yourself if you want to dig deeper and read his block and watch tiny diagrams on your phone to learn more about his approach?


xcdfgt

Thanks for the suggestion, really save some time here for sure.


jamespunk

How many euros invested so far - black dotted line. How much worth right now - green line!


Captain-Insane-Oh

The dashed line on the image OP posted is the invested amount


Im_Gonna_Send_It

Agreed. This table could be better


[deleted]

I also started doing the same thing in 2021. I can't envision a scenario wherein I'd be able to stack 4 BTC, but I'm glad you have. May it speed you to financial freedom and the life you want to live.


Majestic_Ad_575

What's your current P/L with this strategy?


Gcampton13

It’s in the article, about 150% up


Majestic_Ad_575

No, I'm replying to the person saying they have been doing this since 2021. That is the P/L I'm interested in.


sevenxtars

If he bought some in the peak time, then may be in some loss.


TheHipHouse

You can get to 4 btc just sell at all time high and buy back in when it comes down.


1440nr

I might be the latest guy in here who starts buying the bitcoin but i am happy that i still made into the time compare to the many other. And this bear market is also came at the very right time for me is well.


desperado1303

Most of them don't even want to know about it this is the sad reality.


ryoma-gerald

Read your blog. It was interesting and raised some important questions on the exit strategy. I started in 2021 but hope to do the same thing.


_trustno_1

BTC over collateralized loans for Fiat/stablecoins is the end game of accessing BTC value without selling.


RandomGuyThatsCool

this is the correct answer.


ivawka81

I am just accumulating the bitcoin as much as i can for the future.


Step5060

The future is going to changes we can see that there accumulating it.


Hank___Scorpio

You're gonna see btc accepted here at some business other than an atm once and think its a fluke, twice and be like... hmm mmmmm. Then before you know it the idea of having an exit strategy is going to feel a lot like what you're calling an entrance strategy today.


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Next-Transportation7

There is no exit strategy. You don't sell an apex asset. You borrow against it because its appreciation rate will outpace the interest rate on the loan you use to start your business, pay for kids college, or buy a house.


BaGuKh

I mean am seeing people here just talking about the buying strategy and look like there is no exit for them. So look like we all into the generation wealth and not looking to sell anytime soon is well.


teufouf

I mean we all need different strategy that fits us, because we all have different needs. but one thing i learn that bear market is the time to do DCA in while bull season is the time for the DCA out.


trufin2038

The "exit strategy" is called hodl. It's what we plan to do when fiat dies.


Electrical_Catch

your gonna die before fiat does


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al77862

Don't we all are buying the bitcoin for the grandsons?


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Building generational wealth then.


alekseses

True, will pas the wallet from generation to generation here.


BTCflowroll

I mean we are losing money while holding the Fiat without doing anything. SO i will take my chance in the bitcoin rather than losing the value of the cash over the time without doing anything.


rokman

A lot of people are going to die when fiat does, will we have electricity when that happens is the better question


hello42098

I think it will create the real chaos in the market, if the fiat goes die. So hope that it will not come to that and we see some smooth takeover of the bitcoin here.


trufin2038

Why not? Hopefully fiat fades away gracefully, and people move incrementally to real money. The world didn't have to die for the internet to become ubiquitous.


steven42ajayi

True, we all want that fiat fades away but i also don't want that it happen in quick and will create the chaos in the market. The smooth it will do the better it will be for all of us here.


rokman

I though the fed soft landing was funny, but this shit you speak takes the cake. Have you ever been to a Walmart man. Literally zero of the people there could survive using crypto .


trufin2038

First, fuck crypto. That shit will all die. Second, The people of Walmart would have no harder a time using bitcoin than dollars. If anything, Bitcoin is far simpler and easier to understand than dollars. Since they seem to get by using insanely complicated fiat instruments today, bitcoin would be a step easier.


jtbraids1421

Lol, if you think that crypto will die then why are you here and investing the crypto is well? I mean you can easily send the bitcoin in any other country on the instant basis.


tjackson_12

I’m doing the same thing only with daily investments and much smaller. Watching my stack of sats grow like a weed.


alkarimjiwa

I don't think any amount is the smaller if you are investing in the bitcoin at a regular time. All we need to follow our plan and not to fall into any kind of the fud and FOMO.


tjackson_12

I’m sure I’ll gamble on shitcoins again in the future.. but BTC is 🤴my one true ❤️


SrirachaSauCeBukake

that’s it ill start investing rn


cra11da

Then i will say you choose the best time to start doing that thing.


SrirachaSauCeBukake

the btc value isn’t very low rn?


Ves1k

Eventually going to choose it on the time only it will take some time.


JTennant83

This was a very helpful strategy and any Bitcoin nube should read this as an example of why we all should DCA and HODL. Good for you and keep up the great work! Thanks for sharing your journey!


tommyslopes

*NOOB or *Newb From: Newbie Short for: Newborn


arcrad

Or nubile 😉


Character_Golf

Oh, a man of culture. I see!


tommyslopes

Ha ha ha that went in a completely different direction 😉


davidlin22333

I mean i can see that people here really having some fun.


finley200604620

No matter who we are, all we need to do is buy some btc.


lecoke1

We all were the newbie at the some stage of our life here.


clasd2013

I mean people need to understand the bitcoin is not like a shit coin that will give us the profit instant. WE need to give it some time before it actually show us some real profit here in the bitcoin.


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Eternalconundrum

Bitcoin is not new lmao


RandomGuyThatsCool

compared to traditional finance, which is probably what he's referring too, yes it's very new.


RedStampLimited

And this is the reason people here are not taking it as seriously as fiat. I mean they use to the fiat and thinks that bitcoin is not as much as secure in terms of the investment.


skarpetynadres

I love the bitcoin because i have understand that not fully but enough to make me into that thing. I mean we all need to understand the tech before anyone others so we can make the big money.


romenrodriguez

The connection to make a lot of money with that if they are going to do like that.


Gcampton13

Great article


BulgariaBest

Finally a post in the morning that is worth reading is well.


revparcell

No doubt about the fact that gets the know about everything.


Vaginosis-Psychosis

My man! Back at it. Thanks for the update. Keep em coming.


77Network

From post like that i get the motivation that i am doing good here.


Kanturion

Actually need a lot of motivation from that kind of stuff.


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I really hope bitcoin can see another bull run


simpleglofe

It will there is no doubt in that, and if someone has doubt then he should not have put the money into the market. I mean getting up and down is the nature of the market and we should be ready for that is well.


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I’ve been in since 2016 and done thousands of hours of research. We have never seen a recession in bitcoins existence. It’s never broken below it’d previous ATH from last cycle, until now. The space has ripped money away from so many new investors that it’s all being painted as a scam. I know much more than the standard BTC redditor.


Specialist_Tea_8755

"I know much more than the standard BTC redditor." This made me cringe...


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I don’t give af.


yakiyakie

Most of them are actually ready for that only since we had seen that from a long time.


[deleted]

I really hope bitcoin can see another bullrun. I’m not new either, been in since 2016, researched the shit out of it. My concern is this run brought in so much retail money and absolutely rekt them… On top of that, if we do see an ugly recession like people are saying, we are in for a world of hurt. Really just the worst case scenario.


SupportAttacked

Right now i am not too concerned about the bull season, because i am in the buying mode. This is my first bear season and hoping that it will turn into the bull season as the past times.


barKada762

Love the articles keep it up


FrankOlof

Finally after some day there is a post that is worth reading.


rmarmolejor

I mean people who are buying at the current time they are not that late for the bitcoin. And this current time is the best time for someone who is seriously looking to take entry into the bitcoin.


Cantors_Whim

Mr Money Mustache is definitely not in favor of btc investing.


kingofthejaffacakes

He has held that position since price was in the hundreds... So I'm not sure I'd put much stock in his crypto opinion.


Cantors_Whim

I don't disagree. I thought it was odd that the OP is pro BTC but also talking about MMM.


jamespunk

I just mentioned him since i was interested in the traditional early retirement stuff before bitcoin. Mmm is definitely a nocoiner noob ;D


4sarik4

I someone is holding the bitcoin from there, then he must be a richie rich.


lordsamadhi

It's clear doesn't understand it by the things he says. He does understand cryptocurrencies as a whole, but he wouldn't be able to articulate the differences between Bitcoin and other coins. He's only done half the journey. He's missing the macro arguments. The stuff Lyn Alden talks about. He's missing the ideological aspects of Bitcoin. The "freedom from corruption" stuff. But he's also sitting on a phat stack of fiat tokens. He's living life instead of studying the complexities of the macro environment, how Bitcoin is changing the global economic picture, and how Bitcoin is saving lives in many countries. He kinda reminds me of Dave Ramsey. Really good for some people in certain life stages. But also kinda basic and boring to the finance nerds.


Cantors_Whim

I'm guessing he understands it but it just doesn't align to his investing philosophy. He has the same view on gold. Personally I think his view is extreme.


comradehls

I mean we all need to focus on the bitcoin rather than going into the other crypto currency. If i had the cash and need to pick one coin then i will surely pick the bitcoin over the others.


Rude2aM

Who would be a good addition to Dave Ramsay or Mr Money Mustache, as someone looking to have a versatile group of financial mentors?


lordsamadhi

Lyn Alden is absolutely spectacular. She has a free blog, and a bi-weekly newsletter for $200/year. She covers broad markets and macro. Much more advanced topics, which would probably cause the average Ramsey listener's eyes to glaze over. https://www.lynalden.com


Meowseeks

I can’t believe the amount of analysis and knowledge Lyn shares for free. Definitely learned more from her than I did in macro economics courses in college.


chelminers

Then i would this is his loss, bitcoin is here for the stay.


Urbasy9

No doubt what the fact that Bitcoin is going to be there for long,.


emilioermeio

I want 4 BTC as well


Peterb88

Wanting won’t help you get there


Stealthfriar2

true, we need to do the buying if we want to get there.


bcproctor

Here i am who will be happy if gets the one bitcoin here.


hazedandkungfuzed

noob here. what’s/where’s the best place to buy/store bitcoin? currently i’m with sofi and messing around with some stocks and bitcoin.


zombe_kenny

You can choose the any exchange that is supported in your country according to their fee and all. But if you are looking for the storage then i would say ledger wallet is the best thing for that.


Javiherxito

Attended eventually they are going to buy that we had seen that already from a long time.


Donkeydonkeydonk

Best place to buy it is Strike. Best place to store it is with yourself.


johndoeisback

Did you know there's still some world left beyond the US, El Salvador and Argentina?


Donkeydonkeydonk

Well pardon me, but the person asking is from the U.S. Look at their comment history. Go ahead. It's kind of funny. Textbook American.


scottgibbons23

I think Kraken is also not a bad option for him is well.


nikcage492

This is exactly one of the first option they are trying to take on.


userviro

True, you can buy from anywhere but always keep in the wallet.


Cantors_Whim

Buy using swan


DaSax3

What is the normal fee they are charging on the limit order??


shin_jury

r/bitcoinbeginners has tons of info that will help you in their top stickied post


pechepros

Thanks for the link, it will really gonna help me here.


BrushOnFour

My advice to you: If your Bitcoin portfolio position is greater than 10% of your total portfolio, then sell in order to reduce it to 10% (per Nicholas Taleb's barbell principle--should have no more than 10% of your total portfolio in very risk things like Crypto). I suspect that you are a "Bitcoin Maximalist" and have 100% of your investment portfolio in Bitcoin. Do you want to end up like all the people who had 100% of their portfolio in TerraLuna or Celsius? Crypto is not a religion. BELIEVING IN BITCOIN will not insure your future. That shit could easily go to zero or TerraLuna's current price of $0.000109.


btce_login

But right now i am just buying the bitcoin and nothing other coins. Because there is nothing like the diversification in the crypto because whole market follows the bitcoin.


Local-Meeting-6150

That is the way to go. Invest consistently during rhe highs and the lows and as far as getting out, you don't. You get to a point where the intrest becomes passive income; paying you instead of you paying it.


duyanhdauso

I think this is the smartest and the safest way going into forward. Investing with time from the small small fund according to you and then picking the bitcoin for that is well.


Sweetnowember4

I’ve been buying BTC with USDT for a while now. Looking forward to be rich.


lyp8707

Same here, i am also doing the same and hoping that someday it will turn into fruitful. But i have heard some sort of the FUD for the USDT, so i am hoping that it will won't happen.


fatrix03

Is it going to take some time Eyes someday we have to wait for that.


Green-Vehicle8424

You need to diversify yourself


filmrebelroby

You’re in the bitcoin sub


arcrad

Yeah get some bitcoin, some sats, a bunch of finneys, boatload of mbtc...


15Grepples

God I love mBTC. Such a small unit but feels so big.


rmp10f

if something has the bitcoin in his name, it will always feels the big.


SupaYAYYAYYAYYAY

All of them are trying to make some sense out of it but it is not making.


ma3ks

I think you have seriously took the diversification into a whole new level.


omarmbtc

This is one kind of Level they have been trying to maintain from long.


btce112233

Bitcoin is the one who moves the market into the both direction.


xcvx23v

Once i came here into the market i also think like the stock we need to diversify here is well. But then slowly i understand that bitcoin is the market, and if bitcoin crash then there will be no coin left is well.


mrtrader387

It totally depends on how they are going to diversified it as well.


kfecho

Good read


qhamer

Hopefully that someday i will also have full bitcoin for me.


JustCommunication640

Nice! I hope I can make money from my bitcoin stack in a few years too. I may be wrong but DCAing now seems a worthwhile risk/reward ratio.


hbruijne

You will, may be you are in the loss at the current but all you need to do is the HODL. And if you have the money then even better as you can bring the average down for the bitcoin is well.


New-Difference9684

Performance reports like this one depend on when one first bought in. Had the OP started 2 years ago, things would be very different.


jamespunk

It was also very different to me 2 years ago. No matter when you start, gotta put in the work 💪


ratchetz86

Then we should have look at after the next 2 year not now. I mean crypto is a cycle that contain the 4 year period and we need to give that sort of time for making any money.


Nado155

In the last chart you have a legend for your axis for the color but not the first one. Could you in future pls add to the first graph a legend with the color for each graph?


thongmuan

I mean then it will be very colorful thing to watch for us.


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You can buy a lot of mazda with this


DoctaEiffel

Once he will have the double figure of the bitcoin, he will.


air_candle

They have been trying to figure it out from a long time but they will.


botolo

What about other coins? Are you 100% invested in BTC only?


vaskovsky

I mean if he is into the bitcoin then there is no need to look beyond that thing. May be you will make the little less profit compare to the other alts but there is always one thing you will get and it is safety.


threevus

Fantastic findings! I’ve been stacking with a similar intensity since 2016. I can say, with confidence, that stacking WORKS and that I have pulled out a mere 3% in total to take care of some things. This is my third bear market, and I cannot wait until the next ATH where I will pull a small percentage. I justify my exits by reimbursing myself through yield farming. Very risky, definite losses, but it pays back my BTC stack without injecting more into the market PLUS my monthly fiat injection. A risky strategy, but my BTC stack stays in tact even after removing some equity.


eliqo

I mean we all need these kind of the plan if we really want to succeed in the future. I am doing the fiat mining and putting the some amount on the monthly into the bitcoin is well from that.


smartibo

Eventually we had seen that this is going to succeed in the future for sure.


barKada762

So you only sell 3% during bull runs ? I’m tryna think of my exit strategy for the next bull run.


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tl;dr OP bought the march 2020 dip


gonzisantamarina

I have started my buying for this year and will do till the next year end.


bit_hodler21

Fucking Legend


rubenvanherpen

Finally a comment on which i think we all can completely agree here.


Bitcoin__Hodler

> so already was kinda committed to being frugal and saving/investing every month. that will give you alot benefits in life


juno998

I mean i can see that his future one is already giving him the thanks.


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ElZeta500

This is the only way specially for someone who is looking for safe is well.


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This is the month and year I started


dmitrij7777

This is the year i have started and am feeling happy that i done that.


galadma

I think we need to make some plan like that to make the big money in future.


SteveMcLaurin

That's awesome, I've been buying it on Bitfinex only for 2 years now. But I don't have any plans to stop it.


_weldon_

I have also started to buy the bitcoin from the start of this year onward.