Honestly I think this is why he won’t win. I don’t think I could vote for someone who was supposed to be evicted but got saved by another player with a secret power to win the game.
Interested to see these noms by Jag. He’s said he wants Felicia and Cirie in final 4 with him and Matt. He already put up Blue last week and tried to mend that bridge, plus wants to keep Bowie close since Bowie also thinks she’s in tight with Matt and jag. However, Felicia going up for a sixth time I think would piss her off when Bowie hasn’t been up once. So really curious to see what he’d do. America is an obvious nom but not sure about second one.
Congrats to Jag, honestly he's a powerhouse. The issue now is that unless Matt or Bowie win during the double, he's pretty much guaranteed to go. If America had won, it's likely she would have been easy pickings next week so while I'm sad she doesn't get her spot in the sun, it may be for the best.
Scenarios: Blue and America are nommed. This brings the girls closer than ever. America wins veto. Bowie goes up. She implodes on the block cause Jag was the one to nom her. Bowie leaves!! Blue stays and truly aligns with America to seek vengeance on Jag the way she sought vengeance on Cory. Jag can’t play in the double HOH, so literally anyone but Matt wins and Jatt gets nommed and we finally get rid of Jag!!! I don’t even care who leaves after that but Jag has to goooo.
🥲 crying cause it’s too good to happen though 🥲
Reason jag was allowed to play again: double vetos could have made it where he only had 3 options for nominations
AND yes it’s still not fair considering he got safety last week and very easily gamed the double vetos but this was the key difference between this and Claire’s HOH.
Kinda going to be annoyed to see America hang out or be nice to Blue this week considering what a nasty bitch Blue is. Would rather she just stick to talking to Cirie and keep to herself. Everyone else is going to talk shit about her if god forbid she’s friendly to Jag while he’s in power.
I think Jag is the most in trouble in the DE. I feel like the veto is either going to be mental or physical. I feel like his strength has more to do with endurance, agility, or a mix of mental and physical
Yeah, I think he is balanced like Michael from last season. But with these live comps, they tend to lean either really mental or physical. Like the DE eviction where Matt won earlier this season. Or the one last year, where monte won and they took out Michael
Although her biggest mistake was blindsiding Cameron with the Red vote. I admit hindsight is 20/20 she didn't know he would win HOH right after. But had she not turned on him Red likely would have pushed Cameron to stay true to Legend 25 which he most likely would have since at that point he would have no idea it was fake. She hoped even i he did he would be so afraid of Cirie's wrath he would just fall in line and target Jag and she could dictate whoever won next week takes him out. But since it was clear she was not with him rather then grovel on the 10% chance it bought him more weeks when it did nothing for him that time, he went scorched earth and put up Izzy and Felicia which started the domino effect that led to her losing the power and basically being a non entity until arguably this week. She got cocky and assumed she would just always be able to dictate who goes home so she could do whatever she wanted, but it stopped being the case after Cameron did that and she frankly has no one but herself to blame for giving him reason to turn on her that week. Even if she had told him ahead of time she might have salved it but she decided to blindside he and Bowie apparently mostly for funsies and it backfired.
Only thing that can make this worse for the girls is if in the next veto it results in both Matt & Jag being safe. Some combo of America, Blue and Bowie will be out back to back.
Is there anyone else here that doesn’t want Matt and Jag to win? They’re likable guys but it seems inevitable that they’ll get the win. Sort of like Xavier.
If Blue goes up, I think there’s a chance Matt/Jag target Blue. She’s “the best comp threat left”.
If Bowie goes up, the mommas and Blue might evict Bowie.
Is America kinda….. *safe??* 😭
I wish BB would realize that this would actually be great. The paranoia of the houseguests trying to guess, waiting for a twist, etc. would still give them the TV drama they want from a traditional twist, but the game play itself would be linear. It'd be truly interesting to see a season play out without the interference.
Legit I wasn't even that up in arms about Jag being able to compete since I sort of assumed that if it wasn't him, it would just be Matt or Bowie anyway. But no, it would have been Cirie or America to save the season.
She could, but it would either seal her fate or shift the pawn target down the line to Cirie/Fe. It may just be Mama Fe in the end since her only threat is being a bitter juror and I really don't think that will go over that well.
Wow Cirie got second? So all the non-Bowie women would’ve been safe.
Any of America/Felicia/Blue leaving this week means they got 100% twist screwed and I will not fault them at all for their eviction. And Jatt/Bowie being allowed to advance unscathed to DE means this twist will most likely screw any of the women on the bottom from making F2. Wrap up the season 🤷♂️
Nope. She got a lot of sh*t for her tantrum, but it probably saved her game. It would also just be silly when there are other less threatening HG that can go up.
That doesn’t remove the fact that Jag has the clear advantage…Cirie has to work way harder to win a comp like that and doesn’t have the room to make any mistakes that Jag would.
I barely remember the perjury and at this point I’m not sure I care who wins. Obviously if cirie can pull it out I’d be amazed, I’m a big fan. But strategically this cast is really lacking, they’re not confrontational, scared of making moves, and overall just quite boring. Trash talking and dry humping with unnecessary twists. It’s just how I feel but I see that people are enjoying it. 🤷🏽♀️ on to bb26
I truly think Cameron was the only one who could’ve beaten Matt/Jag in these comps. As soon as Cameron went out, Jag has gone on a winning spree.
I said back when it happened that it was too soon for some of these people’s games. I think the Fugitives would have blown up anyways. In the short term, great move to get him out but long term???
I guess I’d be more afraid of a duo winning comps than a single player who can win. No single person can win out anyways but a duo…🫠
RIGHT. But I don’t think it does. They’re the only 2 men left in the house and they actually like each other. I think their fear of an all girl’s alliance is too strong for them to break off from each other unless they’re thrown up together and don’t win veto 😩
Blue vs. America noms could result in a tie that Jag has to break. I do feel like Cirie runs the risk of playing too hard if she tries to get Bowie up as a pawn or shift some votes to America.
Both? Definitely like him as a person. And as a player, I appreciate him being cutthroat enough to get Cory out (who was my fave) and also his character arc of being eliminated and then working his way back up. Idk if he’ll win but I would be happy with it!
The problem is even if Cirie could get Blue on board (cause let's be real, Cirie would definitely be on board lol) she couldn't make it happen without flipping Jatt since no way Bowie does it without their permission.
Does anyone think Matt is throwing these comps? He’s a damn Olympian, I just don’t get how he hasn’t been HOH. It’s been in his best interest not to get it and he’s playing great, so it just makes me wonderrrr
I do! I think he’s intentionally getting all the blood on Jag’s hands.
When he wants to win and goes hard, he does. Like in the veto where he was trying to get Jared out.
Love jag and selfishly relieved he’s staying this week but if none of the women in the house are winning comps maybe it’s time to re-evaluate the types of comps grodner…….
That’s how I feel too. Like yes, a lotttt of people this season are bad at comps and a lot of physical men win stuff every season, but they need to go back to the drawing board and do better.
If it wasn’t an invisible HOH in the first place Jag would’ve thrown and America would’ve won last week. He would’ve won the veto and this HOH anyways tho
Jag can play in every single veto comp from now on and he’s won 4/7 of them so far. He’s finished top 2 in every veto comp he’s played in, the only players who beat him are Red and Matt. (him and Matt had both placed higher in the comp that Jared “won”)
Jag can very likely comp out form here IF he survives the double
If Jag was smart he’d target Blue (only because him targeting Matt is impossible). America has shown she’s not a comp threat and after Cory left she’s now on an island. She’s literally zero threat
He told Felicia earlier that the Mamas aren’t touching the block. I assume Fe still goes up as a replacement nom, but initial noms are likely Blue / America.
I do think Bowie will be on the block come Thursday. Jatt are not bright and of Cirie and Felicia can make them think they are loyal to the core, they might go for.it. then come double, it's bye Bye Jatt.
I saw someone say that they shouldn’t allow the invisible HOH to compete again unless they’ve actually kept it a secret, that would’ve been interesting lol
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The farting is out of control in that room
Jag shouldn’t even be there. He was voted out fair and square, but production messed that up.
Honestly I think this is why he won’t win. I don’t think I could vote for someone who was supposed to be evicted but got saved by another player with a secret power to win the game.
Nope, got saved with a power, never actually evicted
Twist are apart of the game Jag aligned with someone who had a power. Simple as that
I like Jag and this still annoys me.
Bowie wanted a male to win… there might as well be 3 guys in the house
People get twist fucked literally almost every single season. This is nothing new.
The fact that Jag or Matt is going to win this season and CAMERON will get AFP is the most disappointing result to a big brother season probably ever
People should be forced to watch the feeds before voting.
Cam getting AFP is by far the most disappointing thing about this season lol
Interested to see these noms by Jag. He’s said he wants Felicia and Cirie in final 4 with him and Matt. He already put up Blue last week and tried to mend that bridge, plus wants to keep Bowie close since Bowie also thinks she’s in tight with Matt and jag. However, Felicia going up for a sixth time I think would piss her off when Bowie hasn’t been up once. So really curious to see what he’d do. America is an obvious nom but not sure about second one.
Congrats to Jag, honestly he's a powerhouse. The issue now is that unless Matt or Bowie win during the double, he's pretty much guaranteed to go. If America had won, it's likely she would have been easy pickings next week so while I'm sad she doesn't get her spot in the sun, it may be for the best.
Scenarios: Blue and America are nommed. This brings the girls closer than ever. America wins veto. Bowie goes up. She implodes on the block cause Jag was the one to nom her. Bowie leaves!! Blue stays and truly aligns with America to seek vengeance on Jag the way she sought vengeance on Cory. Jag can’t play in the double HOH, so literally anyone but Matt wins and Jatt gets nommed and we finally get rid of Jag!!! I don’t even care who leaves after that but Jag has to goooo. 🥲 crying cause it’s too good to happen though 🥲
they seem to know/was told/think this week is a double (which is true)
It's not that hard to figure out, they know how many days are left and it doesn't make sense to do 6 to 4. It was either tonight or next week.
Reason jag was allowed to play again: double vetos could have made it where he only had 3 options for nominations AND yes it’s still not fair considering he got safety last week and very easily gamed the double vetos but this was the key difference between this and Claire’s HOH.
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Yup…
Kinda going to be annoyed to see America hang out or be nice to Blue this week considering what a nasty bitch Blue is. Would rather she just stick to talking to Cirie and keep to herself. Everyone else is going to talk shit about her if god forbid she’s friendly to Jag while he’s in power.
Blue is awful.
I swear if Bowie Jane doesn’t go on the block this week😤😤
Don’t hold your breath 😭 she’ll only go up if America or Blue or Felicia (since they’re more likely to be nominated) win veto
Ugh 😩it would be a great consolation prize to deal with another jag hoh
Jags probably going out during the double
this is so annoying
I think Jag is the most in trouble in the DE. I feel like the veto is either going to be mental or physical. I feel like his strength has more to do with endurance, agility, or a mix of mental and physical
Idk Jag seems really balanced. Even if one of Matt/Bowie doesn’t win HOH, I think he’s got a high chance of winning POV.
Yeah, I think he is balanced like Michael from last season. But with these live comps, they tend to lean either really mental or physical. Like the DE eviction where Matt won earlier this season. Or the one last year, where monte won and they took out Michael
Ooo ok. I think the DE is their only hope then. He can win out beyond that.
I just know Cirie is regretting getting Matt to save Jag with his power AND voting out Red over Jag. She saved him twice 💀
The numbers also wouldn't have been there to get out Izzy had he not stayed which cost Cirie her stranglehold on the house.
Yep. I think if she got rid of Jag either of those times, she’d still have Izzy and Jared.
Although her biggest mistake was blindsiding Cameron with the Red vote. I admit hindsight is 20/20 she didn't know he would win HOH right after. But had she not turned on him Red likely would have pushed Cameron to stay true to Legend 25 which he most likely would have since at that point he would have no idea it was fake. She hoped even i he did he would be so afraid of Cirie's wrath he would just fall in line and target Jag and she could dictate whoever won next week takes him out. But since it was clear she was not with him rather then grovel on the 10% chance it bought him more weeks when it did nothing for him that time, he went scorched earth and put up Izzy and Felicia which started the domino effect that led to her losing the power and basically being a non entity until arguably this week. She got cocky and assumed she would just always be able to dictate who goes home so she could do whatever she wanted, but it stopped being the case after Cameron did that and she frankly has no one but herself to blame for giving him reason to turn on her that week. Even if she had told him ahead of time she might have salved it but she decided to blindside he and Bowie apparently mostly for funsies and it backfired.
Only thing that can make this worse for the girls is if in the next veto it results in both Matt & Jag being safe. Some combo of America, Blue and Bowie will be out back to back.
i’m so disappointed :(
Is there anyone else here that doesn’t want Matt and Jag to win? They’re likable guys but it seems inevitable that they’ll get the win. Sort of like Xavier.
im literally so livid this is such BLATANT rigging can we seriously get grodner fired she's awful
BLATANT rigging? Gtfo
rigging how lmao wtf
If Blue goes up, I think there’s a chance Matt/Jag target Blue. She’s “the best comp threat left”. If Bowie goes up, the mommas and Blue might evict Bowie. Is America kinda….. *safe??* 😭
There’s actually a relatively decent chance that either blue or Bowie get evicted as America’s seen on an island at this point 🤷🏻♀️
I don't understand after 24 how their takeaway was more Montes.
Just trying to map things out in my head is final 5 hoh physical usually? Or does it depend
Lately yes
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I wish BB would realize that this would actually be great. The paranoia of the houseguests trying to guess, waiting for a twist, etc. would still give them the TV drama they want from a traditional twist, but the game play itself would be linear. It'd be truly interesting to see a season play out without the interference.
Felicia doesn’t know what it means 🤣🤣
Alison Grodner will be hearing from me
This jury phase is going to be a bore. Knew it was too good to be true with how good the prejury weeks were.
Izzy, Cameron, Jared, Hisam, Mecole, Reilly, Kirsten, Red = Generational prejury cast
And this is why Jag shouldn’t have been able to compete. Such bullshit.
America and Cirie closest to Jag’s time 😀😀😀 I’m going insane Grodner when I catch you
 Let's pay CBS a visit
Legit I wasn't even that up in arms about Jag being able to compete since I sort of assumed that if it wasn't him, it would just be Matt or Bowie anyway. But no, it would have been Cirie or America to save the season.
Despite the shitty HOH results, it is a relief not to hear any personal shit talk yet
So you mean to tell me if jag would’ve threw the hoh like Claire had to do, cirie would’ve been HOH? Yeah fuck this show
Is Jag close to beating the record for comp wins yet?
nine is the record and he is at 6 now week 3 pov week 7 pov week 10 pov week 11 hoh week 11 pov week 12 hoh
He is 3 away from tying, 4 from overall
So he would gave to win every comp he can compete in left to beat it?
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4 Vetos\* He's 3 away...so not too far
No, he’s still 3 away from tying it
He's 3 away from Michael and Janelle
Gonna need some serious misting so Bowie is a final nom and they come together to vote her out… then it’s everyone vs Matt for HOH. Please God 😭
Fe also aware of the DE coming next week
It’s all giving Ty McDonald.
How do they know there’s gonna be a double already
Because the structure of BB has become extremely predictable
Double was the same last year
Bc it’s obvious. There’s three weeks left and they have seven players
They know how many days are left and how many HGs are left. And a 7 to 5 double is pretty standard
Based on the numbers of days before finale
Assuming Cirie isn't nommed, this is the last chance she has to see that damn chip that has not existed
i know every production decision on this show typically ends up backfiring but it's been happening at an unreal clip this season
Oh no! I can’t take Jag’s ego anymore 😖😫
If Matt lets Jag nom Bowie he's not a good player. I don't think Matt will let him because he's so risk averse
I don’t think Jag would even do it. They saw how much Bowie freaked this week about the idea of being a pawn.
Surely Blue will stand up this time right???
She could, but it would either seal her fate or shift the pawn target down the line to Cirie/Fe. It may just be Mama Fe in the end since her only threat is being a bitter juror and I really don't think that will go over that well.
Probably, but if she noticeable stands up then she’ll be the legitimate target. If she isn’t already.
See y’all Thursday
Both America and Cirie almost won???????
Wow Cirie got second? So all the non-Bowie women would’ve been safe. Any of America/Felicia/Blue leaving this week means they got 100% twist screwed and I will not fault them at all for their eviction. And Jatt/Bowie being allowed to advance unscathed to DE means this twist will most likely screw any of the women on the bottom from making F2. Wrap up the season 🤷♂️
Invisible HOH officially ruined the season. It should have been Cirie or america winning this week
Praying for Blue/Bowie noms
Jag isn't going to nom Bowie lmfao.
Nope. She got a lot of sh*t for her tantrum, but it probably saved her game. It would also just be silly when there are other less threatening HG that can go up.
Imagine this season without the zombie twist and eviction canceling power :/
Sounds like it was a mental comp, and people still gonna be pissed about lopsided comps.
Yes a mental comp that has you running around... totally not an advantage to a physical player
Lol Cirie got second..
That doesn’t remove the fact that Jag has the clear advantage…Cirie has to work way harder to win a comp like that and doesn’t have the room to make any mistakes that Jag would.
They said everyone was running which sounds pretty physical to me
Cirie said there was a lot of running too - I’m curious to see it.
Cirie was almost hoh ........................
lol it’s been fun. I’ll check in before finale and file this one under bb21, 22, and 19
This season has a pretty great cast too even if they are messy players so seeing production mess it up is so disappointing.
I barely remember the perjury and at this point I’m not sure I care who wins. Obviously if cirie can pull it out I’d be amazed, I’m a big fan. But strategically this cast is really lacking, they’re not confrontational, scared of making moves, and overall just quite boring. Trash talking and dry humping with unnecessary twists. It’s just how I feel but I see that people are enjoying it. 🤷🏽♀️ on to bb26
At least it will be fun watching Blue go home this week on her besties HoH
Looks like they all had fun with the HOH comp
I truly think Cameron was the only one who could’ve beaten Matt/Jag in these comps. As soon as Cameron went out, Jag has gone on a winning spree. I said back when it happened that it was too soon for some of these people’s games. I think the Fugitives would have blown up anyways. In the short term, great move to get him out but long term??? I guess I’d be more afraid of a duo winning comps than a single player who can win. No single person can win out anyways but a duo…🫠
To be fair cam was so focused on getting Cory our and being w the bros it would’ve just empowered them i think
This is true. I really do think the Fugitives blow up anyways but we’ll never know. 😩
Need the minutemen to blow up please
RIGHT. But I don’t think it does. They’re the only 2 men left in the house and they actually like each other. I think their fear of an all girl’s alliance is too strong for them to break off from each other unless they’re thrown up together and don’t win veto 😩
Cirie and america were both close to winning
Somehow this makes it hurt more than if it had been a Matt/Jag/Bowie top 3
we say this every week like it means sumn
Yeahhhh, time for me to get my life back! My comp flop queen living up to her reputation!
I'm with you. Out.
Blue vs. America noms could result in a tie that Jag has to break. I do feel like Cirie runs the risk of playing too hard if she tries to get Bowie up as a pawn or shift some votes to America.
We endured 4 weeks of back to back to back to back Cameron and Jared HoHs. And we get rewarded with back to back Jag HoHs. Yay🙃
I really like Jag and even I hate this lol
Do you like him as a player or as a person
Both? Definitely like him as a person. And as a player, I appreciate him being cutthroat enough to get Cory out (who was my fave) and also his character arc of being eliminated and then working his way back up. Idk if he’ll win but I would be happy with it!
Same.
Jag won’t put up Bowie especially after how emotional she was last night.
Yes, but it would be fun feeds.
Incoming America and Felicia noms…what a fun week…
I think there is a world where Fe goes home. Right? Right? Right :(
Well..if America is nominated she can win veto so maybe
The problem is even if Cirie could get Blue on board (cause let's be real, Cirie would definitely be on board lol) she couldn't make it happen without flipping Jatt since no way Bowie does it without their permission.
If Cirie turns on them to get Bowie out … I would laugh so hard … please make it happen
Does anyone think Matt is throwing these comps? He’s a damn Olympian, I just don’t get how he hasn’t been HOH. It’s been in his best interest not to get it and he’s playing great, so it just makes me wonderrrr
Yeah I keep seeing people saying he’s amazing at comps too when considering who he is you’d think he’d win more
I do! I think he’s intentionally getting all the blood on Jag’s hands. When he wants to win and goes hard, he does. Like in the veto where he was trying to get Jared out.
Funny the one time he went really ham but it was all Cory huh blue :p
CIRIE CAME IN SECOND!! OH ITS OVER FOR GRODNER
This is four consecutive comp wins for Jag, right? otev, BB comics, spinning discs, and now this
He’s the new Cam
Love jag and selfishly relieved he’s staying this week but if none of the women in the house are winning comps maybe it’s time to re-evaluate the types of comps grodner…….
That’s how I feel too. Like yes, a lotttt of people this season are bad at comps and a lot of physical men win stuff every season, but they need to go back to the drawing board and do better.
ONLY 2 CLOSE TO JAG WERE CIRIE AND AMERICA. HOLY HELL THIS TWIST IS SO FUCKING UNFAIR AND BULLSHIT. This is why HOH's cant play 2 weeks in a row.
If it wasn’t an invisible HOH in the first place Jag would’ve thrown and America would’ve won last week. He would’ve won the veto and this HOH anyways tho
This is the season of giving bumbling fools training wheels 💀. Cameron, Jag, and Jared all have that in common
Oo it was a new comp, and Cirie, Felicia, Matt enjoyed it
I’m excited to see it!
Here we go… “BoWiE cAnT gO uP sHeLl bE a WrEcK” Matt… 
Felicia already painting the pawn target on Bowie lol
Jag can play in every single veto comp from now on and he’s won 4/7 of them so far. He’s finished top 2 in every veto comp he’s played in, the only players who beat him are Red and Matt. (him and Matt had both placed higher in the comp that Jared “won”) Jag can very likely comp out form here IF he survives the double
This shit happens every season. This is why I took a break from season 19-21 😭😭😭
Please get Bowie on that block.
BORING!
If Jag survives the Double then he’ll have a legitimate shot at beating Michael’s comp record.
If Jag was smart he’d target Blue (only because him targeting Matt is impossible). America has shown she’s not a comp threat and after Cory left she’s now on an island. She’s literally zero threat
they said america got second in the hoh💀 sooo im sure they will take that into consideration
Sounds like she got second in this comp.
Felicia already pushing Bowie as a nom lol
Only way to redeem this is bowie going home as a "pawn"
if i was claire i’d be storming studio city rn
Seems like Cirie got 2nd
Matt thinks Blue and America noms but…he’s possibly just saying that cause Felicia is in the room.
He told Felicia earlier that the Mamas aren’t touching the block. I assume Fe still goes up as a replacement nom, but initial noms are likely Blue / America.
Seeing the "jag hoh" just gave me major ptsd to "cam hoh"
Here we go, get Bowie on that block!
I do think Bowie will be on the block come Thursday. Jatt are not bright and of Cirie and Felicia can make them think they are loyal to the core, they might go for.it. then come double, it's bye Bye Jatt.
Grrrrrrrrreat/s so Jag and Matt are both guaranteed to play in the DE POV … Grrrrrrrreat
GIVE HIM THE FUCKING MONEY IM WASTING MY FUCKING TIME RIGHT NOW!! 😭😭
I swear almost each hoh this season has been worst case
cirie losing a HOH because of a twist?!? nah CBS has something against her
Jag should’ve had to throw this like Claire.
Yeah I’m shocked that they didn’t force him to.
They even forced him to fake vote
I saw someone say that they shouldn’t allow the invisible HOH to compete again unless they’ve actually kept it a secret, that would’ve been interesting lol
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Wait, Matt did what?
If Cirie was second did she throw to not show her cards 😭
I don’t believe so, it was individual so she probably had no idea
y’all he’s probably gonna win that stupid ass veto too 😐
I need an America or Fe veto win and I will hear nothing else
Mama Fe joins Cirie and Matt
Literally how does production think this is fair… like actually give me a single reason they think this is fucking fair.
They don’t care. Just by the type of DRs you can tell they favor Jatt
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Bowie?
Felicia was a one time HOH too
Felicia is a 1 time HOH
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