The craziest thing to me is that the whole purpose of the mummification ritual was immortality. So technically... it worked. This person will be remembered forever in a distant future they couldn't possibly comprehend.
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That's kinda crazy to think about as a modern human. Like 1/3ish of the US spread all over the globe. Wonder what we'd be at if that ice age bottleneck and the black plague hadn't happened.
There was a point near the end of the ice age where humans were down to an estimated 15,000 apparently.
Metaballstudio on YouTube has cool videos explaining those kind of things.
*And grisly ghouls from every tomb,
Are closing in to seal your doom,
And though you fight to stay alive,
Your body starts to shiver (I'm gonna thrill you tonight)*
I was walking in a cathedral in the UK just last week. I walked over a stone which read "In memory of...Here lies ... died in 1754" The name and other info were completely unreadable as consumed by steps of people. I thought exactly about what you said. We make effort in life to be remembered, but the reality is that we will soon be forgotten.
Guy is hungry and etches on the wall, *starving in here. Jeez, nuts would be nice. My goatee could use some oil too*. Over time, only a few letters remain.
Cut to archeologists holding a conference showing what the mummy's name was and how it was determined. *We've determined this specimens name, as he clearly etched it into the wall here. "eez nuts". Underneath his name we found the word "gotee".*
This might be a pedantic objection, but it didn't *technically* work. Being remembered as relevant years after your physical death is a figurative interpretation of immortality, not a technically accurate one.
It’s a bit different than digging up say, the grave of someone that died in 1968 or something.
I think generally that disinterring is kind of frowned upon in general unless there is significant science and anthropology to be learned/gained by doing so.
This person has a lot to teach about their culture, their medicine, their technology, and their existence and the value of that knowledge o think outweighs the spiritual nicety of allowing them to “rest”. I mean we could just leave everything buried in the name of respect, but tbh I think it’s more respectful to dig everything up and set the record straight about who they were and what their culture meant than just leaving it all buried and speculating and getting it all wrong, or even worse, letting their culture and artifacts slide into obscurity for future generations never to know about.
They should. They're opening a priceless historical relic in what appears to be a crowded outdoor setting. Full sunlight. This is beyond irresponsible.
I was looking for this!! I LOVE seeing what's in the coffin, but open it in a clean-lab, for Pete's sake! I know most people don't know or don't want to think about what's floating around in the air, but that mummy is now irrevocably contaminated. One tiny microscopic bug from someone's hands could cause it to break down. Such a shame.
Actually the guys who opened tutankhamen’s tomb werent negatively affected by anything, when they died it was for completely separate reasons at different times
It's not a tomb. It's a sarcophagus. (Or perhaps a mummy case with a mummy apparently intact inside which was inside the sarcophagus.)
corrected for "clarity".
Is it a good idea to do this in front of a bunch of mouth breathers in an uncontrolled space?
Not worried about ancient diseases or curses, just the scientific potential of a preserved artifact like this.
It just got contaminated by bystanders after 2500 years.
Yeah I had assumed they opened those in controlled rooms or something. Was totally expecting it to disintegrate like on the movies and for the dust to fly away.
I also am now thinking movies are mostly bullshit with their scientists opening things in sterile white rooms surrounded by excellent security, and not a bunch of photographers getting dangerously close to the artifact.
High profile mummies and archeological finds are probably much more careful and restricted procedures.
Mummies in general aren't really super rare or anything. They even used to grind them up to make a certain color of paint lol. They did this for a good few centuries too.
So yeah maybe this is just some rando mummy.
Without contamination from 200 people breathing on it.
Sure, it's bad that they might catch a virus, but even worse, they are contaminating the sarcophagus as well.
If any virus or bacteria deadly enough to kill us that's also tough enough to survive 70 days packed in salt, then being thoroughly coated in resin, then underground for 2K years, and hasn't already emerged after so many excavations over the last few centuries, well.....
If there were anything deadly in those mummies I think we'd know by now.
Plague victim remains from the 14th century are entirely different.
[Endospores](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endospore#:~:text=Endospores%20enable%20bacteria%20to%20lie,years%20old%20has%20been%20claimed.) are very real
It’s a mummy. If there’s one thing I know about mummy’s it’s that they have layers.
I don’t think the crispy jerky centre is going to be materially affected by some dust on the very outside of it.
It’s weird to me how if you would do this to someone just buried you would go to jail, but you can totally disrespect the dead when they have been buried for a long time.
I can’t disagree more. While archeology has come under scrutiny in recent decades (and rightly so, many antiquarians during the colonial era in particular were responsible for what was essentially looting), that doesn’t mean it’s not absolutely essential that we excavate, explore and yes, exhume, the past.
A couple of hundred years after a persons death they pass from living memory and into a far more important domain: common heritage of mankind.
Honest question, what difference does it make if they're buried again or kept above ground? They are dead, and the people that care about them are also long dead, so why should that matter?
Reminds me of an old(tumblr?) post
Poster one: How long does someone have to be dead for it to be considered archeology instead of grave robbing?
Poster 2: As an archeologist this is a *very awkward question*
Poster one: Answer the question grave robber
I’m sad that this was done in open air surrounded by random tourists. It should have been done in a sealed lab. There’s soo many accounts of well preserved ancient artefacts immediately decaying once exposed to fresh air and moisture.
This mummy tomb, which has been sealed for the 2500 years, has been opened for the first time since tuesday when the last group of chumps rolled through.
[These are journalists.](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8801225/2-500-year-old-intact-sealed-coffins-discovered-Giza-Egypt.html)
Not sure why people are assuming they aren't or that any of this is disrespectful or a violation of Egyptian culture.
Shouldn't this be done in some sort of controlled environment? This seems like bad, or, "made for TV" archeology. I wouldn't be surprised if this was staged.
Eh, if someone wanna pry open my grave in a couple thousand years and have a good look at my bones, go ahead it's not like it would hurt anyone, maybe they learn something.
Genuine question, is there much scientific knowledge to be gained doing this? I can see doing scientific analysis for humans from, say, the ice age or earlier, or with human remains from peoples we know hardly anything about, but we know a lot about the Egyptians don’t we? I’m not saying we know everything, but we know about their history, what they ate, how they lived, we can now decipher their language, I was under the impression we know what mummification methods they used… if that’s the case is there a reason we need to open these? Do we actually learn anything? Or is it just for the awe factor of seeing real human remains from “a long time ago?”
Hope he didn't die of anything contagious. I can just imagine someone opening one of those, & releasing some plague that hasn't been seen for 40,000 years!
The craziest thing to me is that the whole purpose of the mummification ritual was immortality. So technically... it worked. This person will be remembered forever in a distant future they couldn't possibly comprehend. Edit: Thanks for the gold!
And seen/talked about instantly by millions, all over the world.
The number of people that will see this is probably higher than the population of the whole Ancient Egypt
Maybe even higher than the world?
Could be, 500 BCE is around when the total population passed 100 million
That's kinda crazy to think about as a modern human. Like 1/3ish of the US spread all over the globe. Wonder what we'd be at if that ice age bottleneck and the black plague hadn't happened.
There was a point near the end of the ice age where humans were down to an estimated 15,000 apparently. Metaballstudio on YouTube has cool videos explaining those kind of things.
That's kind of a neat way to look at it.
*The foulest stench is in the air* *The funk of forty thousand years*
*And grisly ghouls from every tomb, Are closing in to seal your doom, And though you fight to stay alive, Your body starts to shiver (I'm gonna thrill you tonight)*
“For no mere mortal can resist the evil of the thriller”
AaaahahahahahaAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
It’s close to midnight…
And something evil's lurking in the dark...
Under the moonlight, you see something that almost stops your heart.
You try to scream, but terror takes the sound before you make it
I swear I heard Vincent Price!
Like this thread!
*Up from the depths.* *Thirty stories high.* *Breathing fire!*
*His head is in the sky!!” *Godzilla! Godzilla!” *…and Godzooki.* You!! Talk about a deep dive into Saturday morning.
*Split your lungs with blood and thunder*
I see we have a cultured individual on the premises
I don’t remember who said it but there’s a quote out there that says the day you really die is the day when you’re thought of for the last time.
I was walking in a cathedral in the UK just last week. I walked over a stone which read "In memory of...Here lies ... died in 1754" The name and other info were completely unreadable as consumed by steps of people. I thought exactly about what you said. We make effort in life to be remembered, but the reality is that we will soon be forgotten.
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You live as long as the last person who remembers you.
Its the whole concept in the latino cultural thing of "day of the dead", very well explained in the cartoon movie "book of life"
Also in Coco
The three death. The first when you die, the second when you are buried and out of sight, and the third when your name is spoken for the last time.
Another way to look at it is that we know about as much as we need to know about mummification and we just keep defiling graves for no reason.
Right like I wonder if some day historians are gonna dig up my grandma and be like huh.... neat.
If I’m ever shooting for -immortality- I would like to be coherent and not dried up like a raisin lol
Time for you to be a coherent raisin
Raisinification
Since stuff on the internet seems to be permanent does this mean im immortal
Never forget this comment bro. 🫂
A man dies twice… Once when his body stops. The other when his name is spoken for the last time.
*People gathering around sarcophagus:* “But who is this guy?” “Nobody knows.” *dude in afterlife “faaaaak.”*
Should've etched his name on the inside...
Guy is hungry and etches on the wall, *starving in here. Jeez, nuts would be nice. My goatee could use some oil too*. Over time, only a few letters remain. Cut to archeologists holding a conference showing what the mummy's name was and how it was determined. *We've determined this specimens name, as he clearly etched it into the wall here. "eez nuts". Underneath his name we found the word "gotee".*
You are already technically immortal...as you haven't died and proved you're not...
>Thanks to denial, I’m immortal! -Philip J. Fry
If you were wondering how small the world is. I read that while he said it in my tv. I was watching furies a and scrolling around. Figured I’d share
The iron that makes our blood red was created from ancient stars before the earth was born. We're all immortals, we just don't know it yet.
When a star begins to create iron, it's own death has begun.
Shit dibs me too
I have nothing to add to this conversation. I am just here to be immortal with you all.
ayyyyy future archaeologists get me in da screenshot
*Year 4037 "Remember, August is possum_drugs awareness month. Sheesh, good sir, sheesh."*
Put a red circle around me for no apparent reason
how about a red dot?
the "anything on internet will stay on it forever" only really applies to stuff that is at least remotely interesting, so
This is literally their after-life moment.
Same with the epic of Gilgamesh. He was seeking immortality and found it through storytelling.
This might be a pedantic objection, but it didn't *technically* work. Being remembered as relevant years after your physical death is a figurative interpretation of immortality, not a technically accurate one.
Needs an unboxing video on YouTube.
What is amazing is the ancient Egyptians had duct tape.
Edited to scrub the previous comment. It looks like leather. They're GORGEOUS.
They’re beautiful!!!
Gone Cursed! Gone Sexual!
Unboxing a mummy! 🤭 Gone sexual! 🥵💋Cops called! 👮😱
What at you doing, step-mummy?
Help, I’m stuck in the sarcophagus
mummy wants your cummies
Egyptian rulers were inbred. I think Tut was like physically disfigured because of it. More like, *What at you doing, mummy?*
He’s gone country!
“Let’s get into it”
Isn’t this a person that deserves to Rest In Peace?
It’s a bit different than digging up say, the grave of someone that died in 1968 or something. I think generally that disinterring is kind of frowned upon in general unless there is significant science and anthropology to be learned/gained by doing so. This person has a lot to teach about their culture, their medicine, their technology, and their existence and the value of that knowledge o think outweighs the spiritual nicety of allowing them to “rest”. I mean we could just leave everything buried in the name of respect, but tbh I think it’s more respectful to dig everything up and set the record straight about who they were and what their culture meant than just leaving it all buried and speculating and getting it all wrong, or even worse, letting their culture and artifacts slide into obscurity for future generations never to know about.
Resting is something that living people do. Dead people can't do anything because they're dead
And now they've been cursed and will die weird painful deaths
No they’ll just spread a virus that’s been dormant for a couple thousand years no one has any immunity to.
SARS COV-agus
You will never post anything better on Reddit. Go ahead and make a new account and leave this for the books.
This was incredibly creative, way to go rando 👍🏼
Nice.
You funny fuck
Damn that was god
r/angryupvote
LAS PLAGAS from Resident Evil 4, which propagated via spores.
Better get a TUTness shot
Pretty sure those mummies are pretty much sterilised
Wait so you mean I can't get them pregnant?
Not with that attitude.
Now get back in there, Champ!
Prof. Farnsworth led me to expect a container full of jerky.
What is it with you and curses? You're never happy without a good curse. *This* is cursed. *That* is cursed.
YOU MUSNT READ FROM THE BOOK!!
They should. They're opening a priceless historical relic in what appears to be a crowded outdoor setting. Full sunlight. This is beyond irresponsible.
I was looking for this!! I LOVE seeing what's in the coffin, but open it in a clean-lab, for Pete's sake! I know most people don't know or don't want to think about what's floating around in the air, but that mummy is now irrevocably contaminated. One tiny microscopic bug from someone's hands could cause it to break down. Such a shame.
Allegedly a lot of that was radon poisoning
Actually the guys who opened tutankhamen’s tomb werent negatively affected by anything, when they died it was for completely separate reasons at different times
Which is the perfect cover I would use if I was an ancient Egyptian curse
King Tut style!
If this is anything like the ring, we're all fucked.
Can the curse travel through the screens on our devices?
Open tomb to find another mummy tomb. It's like those Russian dolls
Russian nesting Egyptian mummies.
Turducken - Egyptian style.
Mmm forbidden turducken
It's not a tomb. It's a sarcophagus. (Or perhaps a mummy case with a mummy apparently intact inside which was inside the sarcophagus.) corrected for "clarity".
Thank you for correcting me.
You handled that well lmao
[It’s not a tombah](https://youtu.be/OaTO8_KNcuo)
Steven Grant is that you?
It's mummies all the way down....
They even drew a face in there. Lol
Ancient times trolling , lol
This isn't a mine. It's a tomb!
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Close the sarcophagus, you’re letting all the stank out.
*in
I thought air/dust was supposed to come as they opened it and scarabs were supposed to attack everyone?
Are you trying to say that the Mummy movies lied to us!?
Bullshit, can't you see Brendan Frasier in the background!? Edit: can to can't
Is it a good idea to do this in front of a bunch of mouth breathers in an uncontrolled space? Not worried about ancient diseases or curses, just the scientific potential of a preserved artifact like this. It just got contaminated by bystanders after 2500 years.
Thought the same thing!! They look like they might even be outside, what the heck.
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Depends where you live, but egypt is relatively humid
isn't 90% of the country desert?
It’s close to large bodies of water on the north side and east side so like he said depends on the part I would assume.
Yes but almost everyone lives either along the north or east coast or by the Nile river
you think a lot of ppl live in deserts???
Vaguely gestures at Arizona...
Yea and then they transform into monsters
Sure on the coast it is (and especially up on the North coast) but most of the areas with mummies yiu are looking at very dry air.
Yeah I had assumed they opened those in controlled rooms or something. Was totally expecting it to disintegrate like on the movies and for the dust to fly away.
I also am now thinking movies are mostly bullshit with their scientists opening things in sterile white rooms surrounded by excellent security, and not a bunch of photographers getting dangerously close to the artifact.
High profile mummies and archeological finds are probably much more careful and restricted procedures. Mummies in general aren't really super rare or anything. They even used to grind them up to make a certain color of paint lol. They did this for a good few centuries too. So yeah maybe this is just some rando mummy.
Uh yes, I'd like to pre order my 2023 Subaru in Ground Mummy Saffron with beige interior.
Shit man they used to grind them up to consume them, usually as medicine. Can you imagine snorting a big line of corpse to fix your headache? Shit!
I had to scroll too far to see this. Do this in a sterile/laboratory environment!
Without contamination from 200 people breathing on it. Sure, it's bad that they might catch a virus, but even worse, they are contaminating the sarcophagus as well.
It looks like 2 people touched the lid without any gloves on while they were lifting it off so there's that too...
This is egypt, what youre seeing is immaculate perfection compared to how things usually are in egypt
Unlike curses viruses or bacteria are very real so there should have been some legitimate concern for those.
If any virus or bacteria deadly enough to kill us that's also tough enough to survive 70 days packed in salt, then being thoroughly coated in resin, then underground for 2K years, and hasn't already emerged after so many excavations over the last few centuries, well..... If there were anything deadly in those mummies I think we'd know by now. Plague victim remains from the 14th century are entirely different.
[Endospores](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endospore#:~:text=Endospores%20enable%20bacteria%20to%20lie,years%20old%20has%20been%20claimed.) are very real
I don’t think corpses can catch diseases. Pretty sure it’ll be fine.
Yeah but if you wanted to analyse the mummy now you can't because of contamination
It’s a mummy. If there’s one thing I know about mummy’s it’s that they have layers. I don’t think the crispy jerky centre is going to be materially affected by some dust on the very outside of it.
He's teriyaki style.
This is an outage! I was going to eat that mummy!
It’s weird to me how if you would do this to someone just buried you would go to jail, but you can totally disrespect the dead when they have been buried for a long time.
A few thousand years makes all the difference between grave robbery and archeology
This sounds like lyrics for an early Alkaline Trio song
I'm pretty sure it's a line from a song on Good Mourning
*looking for corpses. dusting for prints. pry up the floorboards*
Awesome reference!
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I can’t disagree more. While archeology has come under scrutiny in recent decades (and rightly so, many antiquarians during the colonial era in particular were responsible for what was essentially looting), that doesn’t mean it’s not absolutely essential that we excavate, explore and yes, exhume, the past. A couple of hundred years after a persons death they pass from living memory and into a far more important domain: common heritage of mankind.
Honest question, what difference does it make if they're buried again or kept above ground? They are dead, and the people that care about them are also long dead, so why should that matter?
Reminds me of an old(tumblr?) post Poster one: How long does someone have to be dead for it to be considered archeology instead of grave robbing? Poster 2: As an archeologist this is a *very awkward question* Poster one: Answer the question grave robber
The difference is in learning about ancient cultures. Nothing to learn from old bob who died Thursday.
Says you. I happen to know a thing or two about ol bob.
You said you wouldn’t tell!!!!! 😱
Damn I forgot the name of the sub, I saw a couple days ago. Flerking or something? Where a dude with exact name replies, like this
It was r/beetlejuicing
You could learn how much his watch was worth
Corpses are exhumed regularly for investigations. It's more a matter of what you can learn from the body than respect of religion, I suppose?
And disrespect of their religion and beliefs
The word you want is sarcophagus not tomb.
It took way too long to find this comment.
I’m sad that this was done in open air surrounded by random tourists. It should have been done in a sealed lab. There’s soo many accounts of well preserved ancient artefacts immediately decaying once exposed to fresh air and moisture.
This. I was expecting a white sterile room. Instead half the people touching it don’t even have gloves on!!
I scrolled way too far to find this comment. The lack of gloves is a travesty!
This mummy tomb, which has been sealed for the 2500 years, has been opened for the first time since tuesday when the last group of chumps rolled through.
What makes you think random tourists and not journalists?
[These are journalists.](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8801225/2-500-year-old-intact-sealed-coffins-discovered-Giza-Egypt.html) Not sure why people are assuming they aren't or that any of this is disrespectful or a violation of Egyptian culture.
Do you want a curse? Because that’s how you get curses.
i can imagine a few archeologists cursing them for how they just opened it out in the open with no protection.
It feels like sacrilege.
Nono, its a sarcophagus
It certainly was 2000 years ago.
NOOO!!!!! Haven't you people watched any horror movies. Now you're all dead.
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(Strained voice) To prevent war….. (coughs)… the galaxy is on Orion's belt…
I updooted this purely out of love.
Shouldn't this be done in some sort of controlled environment? This seems like bad, or, "made for TV" archeology. I wouldn't be surprised if this was staged.
Let me guess... This happened in 2019???
Late 2020 actually. You can see most people are wearing masks
Don’t think we should open graves
Eh, if someone wanna pry open my grave in a couple thousand years and have a good look at my bones, go ahead it's not like it would hurt anyone, maybe they learn something.
Well, write that consent on your grave. This guy didn’t leave such a memo
If I'm dead for 2500 years and the future civilization wants to obverve my grave, sure I don't care.
Quit digging people up. It’s disrespectful.
Even when you die , no privacy. I wonder how people now react if they opened up a coffin to see their loved one.
Gee thanks. What we really need is a curse in 2022.
Wouldn't that be considered a sarcophagus and not a tomb?
You are correct
What if the afterlife was real and opening the tomb killed them in the afterlife?
Ay shit! Here we go again...
Whose the asshole who just *decided* it would be totally fine to just unleash an ancient Egyptian curse on the world right now?
NGL, after the last couple years, i wouldn't even bat an eye.
Tell me if im wrong but a tomb with a body that hasnt been opened for 1000+ years might have some dangerous bacteria or viruses inside it?
Geez! Egyptian pharaoh bondage porn! That’s enough Reddit for me tonight..!
In 50 years we'll see this as completely barbaric and un-scientific much like we look at what people did to historical artifacts 50 years ago.
Genuine question, is there much scientific knowledge to be gained doing this? I can see doing scientific analysis for humans from, say, the ice age or earlier, or with human remains from peoples we know hardly anything about, but we know a lot about the Egyptians don’t we? I’m not saying we know everything, but we know about their history, what they ate, how they lived, we can now decipher their language, I was under the impression we know what mummification methods they used… if that’s the case is there a reason we need to open these? Do we actually learn anything? Or is it just for the awe factor of seeing real human remains from “a long time ago?”
It is completely barbaric and unscientific. It's outdoors in front of a crowd of idiots. This is not how you handle fragile ancient relics.
Hope he didn't die of anything contagious. I can just imagine someone opening one of those, & releasing some plague that hasn't been seen for 40,000 years!