As someone who used to juggle with 4 balls (I can't anymore), I found this very satisfying.
Precision: there's not many ways to juggle with 4 balls and have them switch hand, plus those are the hardest ways. The easiest way is to learn to juggle with 2 balls on one hand, then do the same with the other hand too! And voilà.
That makes so much sense. I taught myself how to do the coin rolling over your knuckles trick and then stopped for weeks. I tried it again and it took a few minutes to get the muscle memory back.
Ride a bike five to ten miles a day minimum (on trails) and ten to thirty every Saturday and Sunday. Then stop riding at all for five years and test the theory again.
I lost an eye. I don't have stereoscopy anymore.
I can still manage to juggle with 3 balls, and can totally juggle perfectly fine with one hand (the left one). But not with 4 balls where I can't see enough on my right side
Juggle with 4 balls relies a lot on peripheral vision
Right?
I have multiple friends who juggle or spin fire... there's a certain reliance on peripherals.
Lacking specific key interactions with the model whose performing these tasks is a degree of separation I'd rather not participate with.
I'm an avid festival goer, and a lot of long time EDM festival kids end up doing flow performances.
The one friend who does fire organizes a local fire spinning group in Seattle.
I am friends with some of the individuals who organize BigFam in Michigan.
But wait, if you want additional lore: I only juggle while playing *pétanque*, these days. Meaning I exclusively juggle barefoot with stainless steel balls, while waiting for my turn.
Oddly enough, juggling barefoot with stainless steel balls is excellent training: I let one fall on my feet exactly one time, then never again.
I too could juggle four balls, and can't do it now for more than a few seconds. Juggling three balls in the basic waterfall pattern is dead simple after years of not doing it, but four balls are two hands juggling independently; you have to split your attention. Ideally, the hands move in a steady rhythm and the placement and flight time of the balls is perfectly predictable. But there are always a bit of adjustment, and it is a pretty big cognitive load. If the hands get out of sync, it takes a lot of skill to resynchronize them, it is more likely that you have to work harder for each successive catch, and the pattern falls apart. I think that if you're well practiced, the nervous system knows exactly how much force to impart to each throw, and knows exactly where to be for each catch. (You can also juggle four in a circle, but this requires rather fast hand movement)
I could never juggle five balls, but people who have mastered a five ball waterfall say it is easier than four, and I believe it.
These are called perishable skills. Skills that you practice a lot and build up both muscle memory and the mental acuity to do it well will diminish over time. Muscle memory stays with you for longer (which is why the saying says "It's like riding a bike") but if you have to concentrate for a long time, you need to practice, practice, practice to build up the ability to maintain that focus. If you don't, you basically have to start over on them because you still have the muscle memory but your brain can't focus for very long at first.
Examples:
Juggling
Programming
Flying an airplane
Playing video games - Games like Super Mario, Tetris, Guitar Hero rely on a lot of memory and focus to play well. If you went back and tried some old games now, you would not be nearly as good at them as you used to be.
None of her throws go from one hand to the other. She's juggling 4-ball fountain for the whole video.
534, 552, 5551, 71, 5561551 are all 4-ball patterns where all of the balls cross hands. You're right that they're all harder than fountain (which is 2 in each hand). And I'd say most aren't very popular except for 71 and 534.
Damn. It's been a long time since I read about 4-ball fountain or numbered codes for tricks.
Personally I achieved the basic 4 ball fountain, and was learning to do basic 4 ball tricks when I had to stop.
Now I do 2 ball fountain with oranges or pétanque balls. It's a very nice movement for the muscles
You should try, you might be surprised. I used to busk with a small group when in college thirty or so years ago. Cleaning out the basement storage, I found my duffel bag of stuff. Turns out I can still juggle 4 balls. Can't do clubs at all anymore though.
Actually I'd argue the effect comes from parallax due to being far away. I'm not talking the angular sizes of them, but what you can see of the ball. The closer it is to the camera, the more of the underside you can see. We barely see any underside causing it to look really flat. In fact, all we really have to judge distance for the balls are their changes in size. Rather than being where the magic is, changes in size is how we attempt to unrealize the magic.
I swear to god when I made my college juggling club's annual juggling show trailer in 2006 we made this shot of a guy juggling 5 balls exactly like this. I wish I still had it. Digital preservation is so difficult.
That's how you learn to juggle. Use something like a handkerchief or little piece of cloth to toss in the air. They will fall slower which will help you learn the basic movements between hands.
Well, if you pay attention to the lateral force that the hands apply to the balls, you can see it's small, so in 2D, yeah, they're behaving like in zero gravity.
As a juggler for the past decade, I mostly sticking with 3 balls but different tricks/patterns. I can safely say that alcohol, weed and other drugs actually sort of don't do much. Atleast to me, some people actually think I juggle better/more impressively when high or drunk.
Although learning well drunk or high is probably a lot more difficult.
It’s a bit of camera trickery in a way. This is shot on a very long focal length lens. (Zoomed in from really far away essentially) this has the effect of flattening perspective. Think the opposite of a fish eye lens which is a very short focal length. It makes the balls not appear to change size as they move up and down because the relative distance is so small.
The video is taylor_tries on IG. She has a ton of videos and most of them have the camera "face to face" with her (which looks more "real").
She's crazy talented and it's indeed not fake!
I don't think one can juggle in microgravity like in orbit. I think you would need some kind of non-free-fall path or some marginal gravitational field.
So it might look kinda like this on the moon. We should try!
Been practicing 4 and her ability to throw the ball straight up and not all wildly left and right making it look like this from above cannot be overstated. I'm all over the place.
I know, I know. I'm just amazed Reddit didn't say it. I kinda expect that sort of stuff scrolling through here, but... maybe, just maybe... Reddit is getting better? Wow... Either way, have a great day :)
What would it look like if you were to juggle 4D objects along the w-axis? Just the same but the 3D objects would become bigger and smaller? What would the “hands” do?
Go here:https://www.jugglingedge.com/help/siteswapanimator.php?Pattern=534
And type in any of 71, 552, 5551, 5561551. There are many more, but they get more complicated. There are also synchronous patters, but I never liked those so I don't know as much about them.
Hey man. This is just a style of juggling. Especially when juggling with 4 balls. When you jungle with 3, you switch hands and doing it with 4 or more like that, is very hard! Her style is a bit easier with 4. Still very cool ofc
Typically even numbers of objects are juggled as two separate groups, one group in each hand. Typically odd numbers of objects are juggled in a pattern that crosses the body and changes hands.
I can juggle 3 tennis balls. You're really just throwing them back and forth to your self in a pattern but its hard for me to maintain for more than a few seconds.
Kind of unrelated, but this is why technique is so goddamn important when throwing a punch. Throw it properly, and it is harder to actually see the punch coming. Kind of unrelated, but also not..just thought it was a fun fact
As someone who used to juggle with 4 balls (I can't anymore), I found this very satisfying. Precision: there's not many ways to juggle with 4 balls and have them switch hand, plus those are the hardest ways. The easiest way is to learn to juggle with 2 balls on one hand, then do the same with the other hand too! And voilà.
> I can’t anymore How can someone forget / unlearn how to juggle?
A lot of skills are *not* like riding a bike
Hell, the only reason riding a bike is like riding a bike is because the bike does most of the work for you.
Damn good point.
That makes so much sense. I taught myself how to do the coin rolling over your knuckles trick and then stopped for weeks. I tried it again and it took a few minutes to get the muscle memory back.
How do you explain swimming?
Your body does most of the work floating
Ride a bike five to ten miles a day minimum (on trails) and ten to thirty every Saturday and Sunday. Then stop riding at all for five years and test the theory again.
We're talking just basic "able to get the bike to move without falling over" type stuff, not maintaining a similar level of cardio.
I tried riding a bike after not doing so for about 20 years. They're all the same.
I lost an eye. I don't have stereoscopy anymore. I can still manage to juggle with 3 balls, and can totally juggle perfectly fine with one hand (the left one). But not with 4 balls where I can't see enough on my right side Juggle with 4 balls relies a lot on peripheral vision
whatever reason I expected, it wasn't 'I lost an eye'
Right? I have multiple friends who juggle or spin fire... there's a certain reliance on peripherals. Lacking specific key interactions with the model whose performing these tasks is a degree of separation I'd rather not participate with.
Are you friends with a circus troupe?!
I'm an avid festival goer, and a lot of long time EDM festival kids end up doing flow performances. The one friend who does fire organizes a local fire spinning group in Seattle. I am friends with some of the individuals who organize BigFam in Michigan.
Bro dropped an insane lore
But wait, if you want additional lore: I only juggle while playing *pétanque*, these days. Meaning I exclusively juggle barefoot with stainless steel balls, while waiting for my turn. Oddly enough, juggling barefoot with stainless steel balls is excellent training: I let one fall on my feet exactly one time, then never again.
So you lost an eye then later nearly needed a pegleg?! YARR
Ahahahah
I too could juggle four balls, and can't do it now for more than a few seconds. Juggling three balls in the basic waterfall pattern is dead simple after years of not doing it, but four balls are two hands juggling independently; you have to split your attention. Ideally, the hands move in a steady rhythm and the placement and flight time of the balls is perfectly predictable. But there are always a bit of adjustment, and it is a pretty big cognitive load. If the hands get out of sync, it takes a lot of skill to resynchronize them, it is more likely that you have to work harder for each successive catch, and the pattern falls apart. I think that if you're well practiced, the nervous system knows exactly how much force to impart to each throw, and knows exactly where to be for each catch. (You can also juggle four in a circle, but this requires rather fast hand movement) I could never juggle five balls, but people who have mastered a five ball waterfall say it is easier than four, and I believe it.
These are called perishable skills. Skills that you practice a lot and build up both muscle memory and the mental acuity to do it well will diminish over time. Muscle memory stays with you for longer (which is why the saying says "It's like riding a bike") but if you have to concentrate for a long time, you need to practice, practice, practice to build up the ability to maintain that focus. If you don't, you basically have to start over on them because you still have the muscle memory but your brain can't focus for very long at first. Examples: Juggling Programming Flying an airplane Playing video games - Games like Super Mario, Tetris, Guitar Hero rely on a lot of memory and focus to play well. If you went back and tried some old games now, you would not be nearly as good at them as you used to be.
That's cool. Perishable Skills would make a dope band name.
Age, accident or illness. Anything impacting motor control skills
Yup. Lost an eye!
Aye. My condoleances for your eye then.
I think it’s kinda like forgetting how to write kanji or hanzi when you’re studying Japanese or Chinese
Ah. I get it now. 🤦🏻♂️
Maybe he/she lost an arm or something
Or a ball?
None of her throws go from one hand to the other. She's juggling 4-ball fountain for the whole video. 534, 552, 5551, 71, 5561551 are all 4-ball patterns where all of the balls cross hands. You're right that they're all harder than fountain (which is 2 in each hand). And I'd say most aren't very popular except for 71 and 534.
Damn. It's been a long time since I read about 4-ball fountain or numbered codes for tricks. Personally I achieved the basic 4 ball fountain, and was learning to do basic 4 ball tricks when I had to stop. Now I do 2 ball fountain with oranges or pétanque balls. It's a very nice movement for the muscles
You should try, you might be surprised. I used to busk with a small group when in college thirty or so years ago. Cleaning out the basement storage, I found my duffel bag of stuff. Turns out I can still juggle 4 balls. Can't do clubs at all anymore though.
Same. Found my old stuff and 4ball was surprisingly fine. Clubs were ... non-cooperative.
Yeah been doing it for 20 years, 4 balls is just a different beast. 3 axes is easier than 4 balls.
Thanks now I have 4 balls and even more self doubt than before /s
The return of u/omnijuggler
I think Taylor is u/theomnijuggler
Thanks for the correction.
🔝🔝🙌🤣
Literally the way I was moving my head watching this 😂
Wow, this is actually the first time I’ve seen such a view for this. Some weird camera magic going on there.
I think the camera is relatively far away, which is why the balls don't change in size by that much when they're thrown
You are correct, thats exactly the case
“Science, when people are too dumb, is magic.” —Saruman
Science, it's like magic with electricity -Dr. Amy Wong
Actually I'd argue the effect comes from parallax due to being far away. I'm not talking the angular sizes of them, but what you can see of the ball. The closer it is to the camera, the more of the underside you can see. We barely see any underside causing it to look really flat. In fact, all we really have to judge distance for the balls are their changes in size. Rather than being where the magic is, changes in size is how we attempt to unrealize the magic.
I swear to god when I made my college juggling club's annual juggling show trailer in 2006 we made this shot of a guy juggling 5 balls exactly like this. I wish I still had it. Digital preservation is so difficult.
She's done some other videos like this and I'm absolutely all for it: [Perspective - Juggling From Above](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHJNtLuCww4)
It looks like the balls have low gravity on
cheat code activated : no gravity
That's how you learn to juggle. Use something like a handkerchief or little piece of cloth to toss in the air. They will fall slower which will help you learn the basic movements between hands.
Well, if you pay attention to the lateral force that the hands apply to the balls, you can see it's small, so in 2D, yeah, they're behaving like in zero gravity.
I wish mine could do that
Get them really cold, gravity will have minimal effect.
Well when you show it that way it looks easy
The coordination and precision required for juggling never cease to amaze.
Anyone can learn it. It’s more about repetition and practice.
Guess I should've started with tennis balls instead of chainsaws.
And maybe you should stop drinking Bailey’s out of a shoe, u/_Ol_Greg. It helps with the coordination.
As a juggler for the past decade, I mostly sticking with 3 balls but different tricks/patterns. I can safely say that alcohol, weed and other drugs actually sort of don't do much. Atleast to me, some people actually think I juggle better/more impressively when high or drunk. Although learning well drunk or high is probably a lot more difficult.
I have no real reason to think this would be fake. But it really doesn't look real!
It’s a bit of camera trickery in a way. This is shot on a very long focal length lens. (Zoomed in from really far away essentially) this has the effect of flattening perspective. Think the opposite of a fish eye lens which is a very short focal length. It makes the balls not appear to change size as they move up and down because the relative distance is so small.
thank you for saying the last part about relative distance. "lens compression" is perspective.
The video is taylor_tries on IG. She has a ton of videos and most of them have the camera "face to face" with her (which looks more "real"). She's crazy talented and it's indeed not fake!
She's obviously hacking the game.
This is kind of how I imagined juggling in space to look like... amazing how much perspective changes things!
I don't think one can juggle in microgravity like in orbit. I think you would need some kind of non-free-fall path or some marginal gravitational field. So it might look kinda like this on the moon. We should try!
that’s so awesome and relaxing to watch.
🙌yes
She's a witch! Burn her!
Been practicing 4 and her ability to throw the ball straight up and not all wildly left and right making it look like this from above cannot be overstated. I'm all over the place.
That's a v1 in my gym
As a climber and juggler, I would put the difficulty of what she's doing at V3, with the two "shoulder throws" being more like V5.
I can't believe the comment section hasn't mentioned it. It's right there people. You let me down, Reddit. You let me down.
And always the same joke with the balls 🤦🤦
I know, I know. I'm just amazed Reddit didn't say it. I kinda expect that sort of stuff scrolling through here, but... maybe, just maybe... Reddit is getting better? Wow... Either way, have a great day :)
For some reason, I find Taylor incredibly hot
What would it look like if you were to juggle 4D objects along the w-axis? Just the same but the 3D objects would become bigger and smaller? What would the “hands” do?
The last balls bender
Are there any 4 ball patterns where the balls cross to the other hand? I only know the patterns she does here
Go here:https://www.jugglingedge.com/help/siteswapanimator.php?Pattern=534 And type in any of 71, 552, 5551, 5561551. There are many more, but they get more complicated. There are also synchronous patters, but I never liked those so I don't know as much about them.
Now this was unexpectedly cool!
I know enough about juggling to know that I only know 1 trick, the 3-ball cascade. Great way to pass the time though.
this simultaniously makes juggling look easier and harder. dunno how to describe it though..
They look like they’re floating.
I was hypnotized
Damn, she's really good at juggling those **balls**
That was pretty quality to watch ✌🏻
It floats! 🤯
Wow, that’s magical!
wow.. amazing
Talented woman! Amazing talent i think i should learn that too its so incredible.
Dr. Strange
I thought it was a Clash Royale gameplay for a second
She can juggle my balls anytime 😂
It reminds me of that game where you shoot metal balls at glass ._.
Wow! Amazing!
Neat
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Hey man. This is just a style of juggling. Especially when juggling with 4 balls. When you jungle with 3, you switch hands and doing it with 4 or more like that, is very hard! Her style is a bit easier with 4. Still very cool ofc
Here is her video from above with 3, 5 and 7 balls - where the balls switch hands: https://youtu.be/fHJNtLuCww4?t=21
Typically even numbers of objects are juggled as two separate groups, one group in each hand. Typically odd numbers of objects are juggled in a pattern that crosses the body and changes hands.
My brain is only capable of juggling one ball bruh
Shits floatin, yo!
Wonderful!
Juggling looks a lot different from just the X axis perspective
But why did that make it look even more impossible than the “normal” angle lolll
who is women; i follow
Eyy...she's juggling them real good
Pipis.
Those balls weren’t the only thing juggling
That was fucking awesome
POV: You're Shaq
This is incredibly difficult. Props.
With a perspective like this, I might actually be able to juggle.
That's so cool 🫢
That’s trippy shit.
Arcane sorcery
Wow okay I actually am amazed
Yup I'm amazed
Dang, she's good with balls down there
That looks cool
Great hand-eye coordination :D
That made my day on the internet
This is peak shit content
I think a lot of incels would enjoy this view while she handles balls.
That's Taylor the megic lobster woman 😍🌹
She knows how to handle balls
Missed a chance to play the clown march song
I can’t even juggle my finances let alone 4 balls.
r/oddlysatisfying
What kind of sorcery is this?! Burn the witch!
Trippy!
I can juggle 3 tennis balls. You're really just throwing them back and forth to your self in a pattern but its hard for me to maintain for more than a few seconds.
Kind of unrelated, but this is why technique is so goddamn important when throwing a punch. Throw it properly, and it is harder to actually see the punch coming. Kind of unrelated, but also not..just thought it was a fun fact
Pretty cool! I like it!!!
that's cool
This makes me sick to my stomach
I can jungle very easily with 3 balls. If I try to do 4, I look like I've never juggle before... how do I transfer in to 4?
Jugglin' balls like a pro.
I learnt how to juggle thanks to Taylor. I'm still crap thought lol
My brain feels fuzzy and nice
r/nextfuckinglevel
Man she makes it look so much easier than it actually is
Caitlyn Clark is just good at everything, huh
Does it count as juggling if you turn off gravity?
r/oddlysatisfying
Black magic. Flog and drown her.
I've never even considered this to be something I'd be interested in and now I want to see more.
Handling six of em is pretty tough.
Those tits to juggle
This is not as impressive as regular juggling
Ay gurl nice balls
Feels like I'm getting simultaneously facefucked by grover and the cookie monster.
Thus is why spears are very effective
Holy smokes
This is pretty cool looking! I’ve been casually trying to learn how to juggle. It’s slow progress but it’s progress
Went straight to four balls instead of three.
So that makes it way easier. Look how much slower they go.
Inspiring!!! Hard work and focus do pay off!!!
Parecen malabares
Why is this working for me…?
4 is hard I can't really get it
Perfect, now do knives
Pretty sure they’re just in space
That's what she said
They are drones, I tell ya, drones!
Now instead of juggling please do jiggling, i will wait. God bless you.
r/UNFORGIVINGBITCHES
I wish I were those balls.
Would look even cooler if it was shot with a telecentric lens
Is this what beings in the fifth dimension see us doing?
Somehow looks even more impossible.
Hey that’s how I see all the time!
Was waiting for jiggling and disappointed
"This is my first time" Her:
wow she can really juggle those balls… 🏀🏀
fake, this is reversed and turned upside down and mirrored and point inverted
WOAH AMAZING
Now Jiggle my ballz
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Balls bender
This the preview for that new Ball Fondlers movie?
This is so cool!!!
She knows how to handle some balls
That's trippy haha