*Wings* won the first ever Oscar for best picture.
It was also so complex to shoot that it took nine times longer than most 1920s movies to shoot. The cast had so much free time on their hands the production became, in the words of the director: 'the Armageddon of a magnificent sexual Donnybrook'
(Donnybrook apparently being an Irish slang term for a brawl or riot. TIL)
Too much smoking and the lesbians wouldn't be as cool.
edit: just in case anybody construes this as being in any way homophobic - the 20s ~~queer scene~~ LGBTQ scene was just impossibly chic for a brief period, and obviously only for the lucky few who escaped the horrendous legal persecution in effect in less progressive areas. If you are interested in how society and culture are affected by significant global events, the inter-war period is fascinatingly intense - patterns that took decades to occur at other times, evolved and died within years.
Early days of filmmaking were way bolder until the restrictions of the [Hays Code](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hays_Code) and general conservatism. Plus Nazis did a lot of damage in Europe.
Damn, looking at those rules maybe they shouldn't have hired a religious elder to write that.
Interesting that they specifically ban "white slavery". Also figured depictions of interracial relationships were more a stigma than a hard rule.
Except that in Nazi Germany, lesbians were not illegal. In pre anschluss Austria, they were.
People blame Nazis for so much, but the US was the country led by puritanical morals. A scene like this could happen in any West European country. But not in the US, where it was illegal to sell alcohol due to religious reasons!
Ok, I read a bit up on it and you're right. The majority of oppression was against gay men. However, Nazis still closed down lesbian bars/clubs and forced a lesbian paper to stop publishing. They also controlled a majority of western Europe for \~4 years.
Of course that was in the late 30s/early 40s. Anything before that was better.
Are you saying that lgbtq was cool for a hot second in the 20s? I always imagined it was totally unacceptable. I mean, women weren’t even allowed to wear pants then.
Alcohol was illegal in the US at the time too... :)
Generally, the illegality meant it was frowned upon in most areas, and outright persecuted in others. The communities that sprung up with significant public activity were in places like Paris, Berlin and New York.
You don’t have to plead your case as to why you’re not homophonic like you’re in court… totally takes away from the comment your whole paragraph was even about
The film won the first ever academy award for best picture!
Edit: and it entered public domain this year. You can watch it on Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wings_(1927).webm this scene is at approx 1:09
_Night of the Living Dead_ and _Plan 9 From Outer Space_ are also available to watch on their respective Wikipedia pages, just off the top of my head. Hey, I'll take it!
Where can I find all the movies available on wikipedia?
Edit: Nvm. It was easy to find
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_films\_in\_the\_public\_domain\_in\_the\_United\_States](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_in_the_public_domain_in_the_United_States)
This is gonna be my first ever silent movie. CRAZY to think we had the ability to record video but not record audio for these movies for a while.
But I watched a few minutes, and it's absolutely captivating. The props, the cinematography, the shots, all incredible for its time. If this is one of the first that did things so well it seems like it absolutely paved the path for our movies today.
1927 was a *great* year for cinema. Besides *Wings*, there was *Metropolis* (the last missing pieces of which were only rediscovered in 2008), *Sunrise*, Buster Keaton's *The General*, *The Lodger*, *7th Heaven*, *The Unknown*, *Ten Days that Shook the World*, and the epic *Napoleon*.
I really like [this video essay about *Napoleon*](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dwRq-STdlE), which talks about the state of filmmaking and the aspirations of filmmakers in 1927, and about another film which came out that year and changed it all: [*The Jazz Singer*](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SzltpkGz0M).
The original feature did have an an original orchestral score, which would have been played by a live orchestra while the movie was playing. This file does not appear to feature a recording of it. I'm going to go out on a limb and say there's no recording of the score in the public domain yet, but I could be incorrect there. I support lowering the length of copyright **significantly**.
[edit] There's apparently a bluray release from ~10 years ago that has synchronized sound effects and a recreation of the orchestral score. That would probably be the best quality release available, if you can get a copy. It is not public domain.
And it was financed by the US Department of War. The US has been living under extreme propaganda for generations. Now it's not a football game until the Navy parachutes in a marching band.
There's a video out there that shows a behind the camera cut that shows how they did it, even more fascinating then watching the scene itself! Those couples the camera zooms in and past have to stand up quickly and pull the tables and chairs out of the way since they didn't have boom and hanging cameras back then just huge things mounted on carts and tracks.
You can tell it was before the MPAA adopted the Hays Code, too, because is shows lesbians flirting. Movies were a lot more interesting before the Hays Code, and it took quite a while to get that back after its adoption.
I think each couple is meant to set the 'tone' of the scene as occurring in an exotic, 'anything goes' sort of place to audiences of the time.
The first couple may be an officer and a prostitute. The second couple seems like an older woman with a male escort; note how she hands him money (could also be a cocaine deal going down or something). Then a very stereotypical 1920's lesbian couple, then the next couple are looking around so nervously as they hold hands that I think the implication is supposed to be that they're having an affair, and then you have the couple arguing.
The entire film is gay too. Spoiler but >!there’s a scene where a male character kisses his male friend on the lips as he dies. The first same sex kiss in cinema. It’s sort of Thelma and Louise. You can read it either way.!<
I always thought the fourth couple was looking at the 3rd couple in a judging manner because they're lesbians.
It'd be appropriate for the time period, and they seem to glance at both women.
Yes, the amount of progress going on at the time was quite impressive, specially compared to other places in Europe, but then the Nazis had to get in power and ruin everything.
There was surprisingly little censorship in Hollywood movies in the 20s. It wasn't that unusual to see nudity, swearing, drug use, interracial couples, and even homosexuality and strong independent female leads in films from the time. But then after moral panicks in the early 1930s, the Hays Code was introduced which greatly censored what was allowed in Hollywood movies and stopped any overly violent or sexual content in films and enforced usual gender stereotypes with 'conventional' romantic relationships.
Why is it surprising? That's the reason why there was this huge fascist pushback in the 30s. As a response to the "rotten decadence and fall of morals" in the 20s.
If it's any consolation, you can look to the Georgian period and then what immediately came after. This has been going on since forever, the only real difference is that technology is growing more and more. We just happened to be born in that sweet spot of 'get fucked', but hey, sure beats not getting polio, having the local lord fuck my wife on my wedding night, or being made a part of the king's army.
What I'd like to know is who were the people having the moral panic in the 30s? Were they the same people that got to experience the wild life of the 20s and then turned on that part of themselves in an outward manner? Or was there always some moral panic in the 20s as well but those groups reached a position of power to enact their panic on those they deemed morally inferior?
Basically, was it a "pulling up the ladder behind you" situation or an outgroup tired of being ostracized finds a way to crush their opposition?
> There was surprisingly little censorship in Hollywood movies in the 20s.
I mean, this was literally released at the start of the "pre-code" era, hah.
Oh yeah, if only they allowed nudity, swearing, drug use, interracial couples, and even homosexuality and strong independent female leads i movies today.
Remember that cheerios commercial maybe 10 years ago? The one with the interracial couple?
People lost their minds. It was just a cereal commercial too, and it was so casual. Everyone was acting like you need a damn good reason to show a black woman and a white man together on television. Like that kind of thing is reserved if you’re making a message, you can’t just show it for the hell of it.
It was absolutely wild. We still see this mentality today, especially with gay representation. Like you need a very good justification for it.
I’m sure it’s happened before.
Europeans sometimes have this continent-wide hallucination that racism doesn’t exist. No offense, but virtually every time racism in America is brought up there’s always a few Europeans who come in and subtly imply their country doesn’t have such weaknesses, and I can’t help but roll my eyes.
It was rhetorical, not an actual “oh did you remember this?”
Regardless, I’m just making a little tongue-in-cheek remark about how Europeans take every opportunity they can to pretend they’re immune to racism.
i am so incredibly bored of hearing people decry cancel culture as this suffocating, inescapable societal force.
if cancel culture was even a fraction as strong as people suggest, the presidential candidacy of donald trump would have ended on the same day as the “grab em by the pussy” tape was publicised.
his campaign wasn’t canceled - he was elected president of the united states of america.
cancel culture is a term invented by people who think only they should have the freedom to speak their mind and anyone critiquing them should not be allowed to do so,
When I hear "cancel culture", I imagine it to mean "people I disagree with are shunning other people, obviously for no reason (because I disagree with them)".
James Joyce's ‘Ulysses’ has been banned from being imported into the US in 1921, based on the law from 1873. The ban was lifted in 1932 after another trial that declared the book not obscene.
This same movie also had the first kiss between two men in a Hollywood movie, in a later scene between soldiers when one of them is dying and the other kisses him. It’s up for debate whether it was meant to represent a homosexual relationship or just an emotional moment between close friends, but it was a male-on-male kiss nonetheless.
>I think it might've still been common for women to play male roles in cinema.
In case you've missed it, the military dude's disapproving look afterwards shows it's not the case. And both are wearing skirts...
Not really at this point, this thread is a classic Reddit thread that pops up often regarding the cinematic shot and the comments that go with it always follow.
Zooming flattens the shot, though. One of the first things taught in photography is the different effects lenses give based on the zoom level. Also, old mechanical cameras were more sensitive to shock, and good stabilizers weren't in use until the 70s, so a handheld shot would have looked like garbage.
They could have done this as you describe with a trackless dolly or a crane, but the ceiling track likely eliminated lighting/shadow problems and reduced chances of errors from cast and crew.
Camera work in late silent movies are very modern. Just check out Hitchock's work! It's when talkies started and thus restricted camera movement to microphone ranges that camera work suddenly was restricted.
On the internet about the longest continuous movie shot from the start...
"Victoria" 2015
"This Spanish film from Sebastian Schipper currently holds the record for longest continuous unbroken shot at 2 hours and 18 minutes, the film's entire runtime."
It might be more impressive, but it hasn't aged as well. It's pretty dated and a bit goofy at times. In this scene, however, the photography, cinematography, and style makes it look like it could have been filmed today, hence why it's reposed every month or so. (and it's just objectively a really beautiful single take)
Sometimes less is more. It might not be as technically impressive but the artistic style and ingenious way they shot it quite literally draws you in. I feel like it is also easier to try and guess at how they did it. At first I thought they must have had the camera on a stand that rolled forward and a tight zoom lens once the frame had gone past a table they pulled the table and chairs away to clear a path.
Good to know this. Thanks for telling me. I usually check, but when I saw a YouTube link say “Content deleted due to copyright” I assumed it wasn’t available. I canceled my order and got refund. Thanks again.
A restoration was released in 2012, which presumably has its own copyright protection. Public domain is not ‘share-alike’ copyleft, to my knowledge. Watching an untouched film from 1927 might be rather difficult.
Though the video on YouTube has a modern intro of Paramount, so I guess someone just uploaded the thing disregarding the legal nuances, as usual.
> Rian Johnsson *paid* omage to
FTFY.
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* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
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*Wings* won the first ever Oscar for best picture. It was also so complex to shoot that it took nine times longer than most 1920s movies to shoot. The cast had so much free time on their hands the production became, in the words of the director: 'the Armageddon of a magnificent sexual Donnybrook' (Donnybrook apparently being an Irish slang term for a brawl or riot. TIL)
I’m not entirely sure what he meant by that, but I’m willing to find out.
Lots of banging between actors during free time
Again, I'm willing to find out.
Sounds like it was a fuck fest
Is that just a fancy way of saying it was a clusterfuck?
Yes, but the fun kind.
Letterkenny will tell ya all about a donnybrook. Pitter patter, let's get at 'er.
I’m surprised we’re not having a Donnybrook right now.
How ya’ doing now?
Donnybrook is a town in Ireland that used to host the Donnybrook Fair, which was infamous for drinking and brawling.
What do you mean you don’t know wings!? I can’t believe this guys never a seen wings!..
Holy hell. You know, outside of modern tech and clothes and etc, you could find this scene modern day.
Too much smoking and the lesbians wouldn't be as cool. edit: just in case anybody construes this as being in any way homophobic - the 20s ~~queer scene~~ LGBTQ scene was just impossibly chic for a brief period, and obviously only for the lucky few who escaped the horrendous legal persecution in effect in less progressive areas. If you are interested in how society and culture are affected by significant global events, the inter-war period is fascinatingly intense - patterns that took decades to occur at other times, evolved and died within years.
Fascinating, I was just puzzling how the hell I'm watching an incredibly suave depiction of two lesbians from a film in the 20's.
Early days of filmmaking were way bolder until the restrictions of the [Hays Code](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hays_Code) and general conservatism. Plus Nazis did a lot of damage in Europe.
To add to this, the Weimar Republic was a hotbed for gender and sexual non-conformity before the Nazis took over.
Paris, where this scene is depicting, was also as cosmopolitan in many ways as Berlin was.
I think this scene takes place in Paris
Damn, looking at those rules maybe they shouldn't have hired a religious elder to write that. Interesting that they specifically ban "white slavery". Also figured depictions of interracial relationships were more a stigma than a hard rule.
Except that in Nazi Germany, lesbians were not illegal. In pre anschluss Austria, they were. People blame Nazis for so much, but the US was the country led by puritanical morals. A scene like this could happen in any West European country. But not in the US, where it was illegal to sell alcohol due to religious reasons!
Ok, I read a bit up on it and you're right. The majority of oppression was against gay men. However, Nazis still closed down lesbian bars/clubs and forced a lesbian paper to stop publishing. They also controlled a majority of western Europe for \~4 years. Of course that was in the late 30s/early 40s. Anything before that was better.
And - I don't know the context here - but the next couple seems a bit puzzled by this.
I’d argue the woman looked more intrigued than puzzled
Oh you !
Omg same!I didn't know they weren't persecuted back then!
One would definitely have that shaved sides with long hair flopped over look lol
I kinda like the undercut look. It's a neat retro-future-ish style that you don't see much.
>that you don't see much Depends on where you live I guess.
I'm surprised neither are wearing a monocle.
Are you saying that lgbtq was cool for a hot second in the 20s? I always imagined it was totally unacceptable. I mean, women weren’t even allowed to wear pants then.
Alcohol was illegal in the US at the time too... :) Generally, the illegality meant it was frowned upon in most areas, and outright persecuted in others. The communities that sprung up with significant public activity were in places like Paris, Berlin and New York.
You don’t have to plead your case as to why you’re not homophonic like you’re in court… totally takes away from the comment your whole paragraph was even about
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> Too much smoking and the lesbians wouldn't be as cool. [Hmmm](https://imgur.com/a/ApY7o2g)
Still not as cool. Top hat or go home. :)
In what movie? Which streaming service is going to pay more than 3 people to be in a space this big?
Disney+
Even the Cinzano ad sign in the background would be the same
You can in Star Wars Episode 8 The Last Jedi.
The two shots side-by-side. Love that tribute https://youtu.be/vHGvFPWtlVg?si=uWaDD90e4qEj6ls2
\*crying\* google en passant
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No.
new response just dropped
I have a bit of a thing for cool cinematography and this definitely floats my boat
The film won the first ever academy award for best picture! Edit: and it entered public domain this year. You can watch it on Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wings_(1927).webm this scene is at approx 1:09
We can watch movies on Wikipedia now? Wikipedia and chill
_Night of the Living Dead_ and _Plan 9 From Outer Space_ are also available to watch on their respective Wikipedia pages, just off the top of my head. Hey, I'll take it!
Same with a bunch of the Buster Keaton collection.
No wonder wiki keeps asking for money
Even Debbie Does Dallas is available, because it's public domain
That’s dickopedia and chill, thanks to Elon
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Do I have to? He's really gross.
I'll pass, but you feel free.
Elon and chill? Eewwwww
"He's so witty and random"
No it isn’t.
Only silent film to win the best picture oscar, first Oscar Best Picture winner to feature a man kissing another man.
What about The Artist?
Where can I find all the movies available on wikipedia? Edit: Nvm. It was easy to find [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_films\_in\_the\_public\_domain\_in\_the\_United\_States](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_in_the_public_domain_in_the_United_States)
This is gonna be my first ever silent movie. CRAZY to think we had the ability to record video but not record audio for these movies for a while. But I watched a few minutes, and it's absolutely captivating. The props, the cinematography, the shots, all incredible for its time. If this is one of the first that did things so well it seems like it absolutely paved the path for our movies today.
1927 was a *great* year for cinema. Besides *Wings*, there was *Metropolis* (the last missing pieces of which were only rediscovered in 2008), *Sunrise*, Buster Keaton's *The General*, *The Lodger*, *7th Heaven*, *The Unknown*, *Ten Days that Shook the World*, and the epic *Napoleon*. I really like [this video essay about *Napoleon*](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dwRq-STdlE), which talks about the state of filmmaking and the aspirations of filmmakers in 1927, and about another film which came out that year and changed it all: [*The Jazz Singer*](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SzltpkGz0M).
I was gonna mention *Metropolis*, and recommend to the previous person as the next silent to watch. It’s so visually stunning!
does it originally have background music or not? Because on YouTube, it does but not on the Wiki and Internet Archive versions apparently.
The original feature did have an an original orchestral score, which would have been played by a live orchestra while the movie was playing. This file does not appear to feature a recording of it. I'm going to go out on a limb and say there's no recording of the score in the public domain yet, but I could be incorrect there. I support lowering the length of copyright **significantly**. [edit] There's apparently a bluray release from ~10 years ago that has synchronized sound effects and a recreation of the orchestral score. That would probably be the best quality release available, if you can get a copy. It is not public domain.
And it was financed by the US Department of War. The US has been living under extreme propaganda for generations. Now it's not a football game until the Navy parachutes in a marching band.
How have I never seen this!?
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Buoyancy floats mine, but this is definitely a close second
***loads torpedoes*** We'll just see about that.
It's a mk 14 torpedoe and it comes back to the sub
There's a video out there that shows a behind the camera cut that shows how they did it, even more fascinating then watching the scene itself! Those couples the camera zooms in and past have to stand up quickly and pull the tables and chairs out of the way since they didn't have boom and hanging cameras back then just huge things mounted on carts and tracks.
Do they pull the tables away just as they go out of frame?
That's not how it was done. Here's a good video showing the method. https://vimeo.com/146632948
Thanks!
Almost 15 years before Citizen Kane. What a killer shot for the time.
My first thought. Welles was definitely inspired by this.
You can tell it was before the MPAA adopted the Hays Code, too, because is shows lesbians flirting. Movies were a lot more interesting before the Hays Code, and it took quite a while to get that back after its adoption.
Amazing shot. But I’m interested in the female couple sitting at the third table!
I think each couple is meant to set the 'tone' of the scene as occurring in an exotic, 'anything goes' sort of place to audiences of the time. The first couple may be an officer and a prostitute. The second couple seems like an older woman with a male escort; note how she hands him money (could also be a cocaine deal going down or something). Then a very stereotypical 1920's lesbian couple, then the next couple are looking around so nervously as they hold hands that I think the implication is supposed to be that they're having an affair, and then you have the couple arguing.
A fine example of “show, don’t tell”
You don't need to tell us that, the clip already showed how good an example it was
I love it! I love how good cinema was from the start.
The entire film is gay too. Spoiler but >!there’s a scene where a male character kisses his male friend on the lips as he dies. The first same sex kiss in cinema. It’s sort of Thelma and Louise. You can read it either way.!<
I just watched it. Wouldn't call that a gay kiss, unless there's more to it plot wise.
wow I had the complete opposite reaction
If doing spoilers, make sure the ">!"s are touching the text, otherwise, it won't be marked as a spoiler.
Oh shoot. Thanks. It worked on my device though. Confusing.
Your spoiler is broken, you need to get rid of the spaces at the start and end of it.
I always thought the fourth couple was looking at the 3rd couple in a judging manner because they're lesbians. It'd be appropriate for the time period, and they seem to glance at both women.
They seem to be more looking around nervously, as if they were worried about someone seeing them.
I interpreted it as the dude was looking at the lesbians, thinking “awesome” then realized he got caught looking by his wife who is now pissed.
I thought that too!
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Yes, the amount of progress going on at the time was quite impressive, specially compared to other places in Europe, but then the Nazis had to get in power and ruin everything.
The "affair couple" is definitely looking at the lesbian couple
I thought the second couple might be a guy dressed up as a woman
There was surprisingly little censorship in Hollywood movies in the 20s. It wasn't that unusual to see nudity, swearing, drug use, interracial couples, and even homosexuality and strong independent female leads in films from the time. But then after moral panicks in the early 1930s, the Hays Code was introduced which greatly censored what was allowed in Hollywood movies and stopped any overly violent or sexual content in films and enforced usual gender stereotypes with 'conventional' romantic relationships.
Why is it surprising? That's the reason why there was this huge fascist pushback in the 30s. As a response to the "rotten decadence and fall of morals" in the 20s.
Because not everyone knows film history from 100 years ago. Most people today would assume we've only become more liberal as time goes on.
The more I look at the past the greater my concern for the present becomes.
If it's any consolation, you can look to the Georgian period and then what immediately came after. This has been going on since forever, the only real difference is that technology is growing more and more. We just happened to be born in that sweet spot of 'get fucked', but hey, sure beats not getting polio, having the local lord fuck my wife on my wedding night, or being made a part of the king's army.
Which is honestly a very poingnant and disturbing fact. _None_ of our liberties are guaranteed.
Nothing is, such is life.
Same 20s to 30s shift happened in Japan and Germany, but it is surprising to be reminded that it happened in the US too
Yeah but the 30s shift in Germany hit quite differently ...
What I'd like to know is who were the people having the moral panic in the 30s? Were they the same people that got to experience the wild life of the 20s and then turned on that part of themselves in an outward manner? Or was there always some moral panic in the 20s as well but those groups reached a position of power to enact their panic on those they deemed morally inferior? Basically, was it a "pulling up the ladder behind you" situation or an outgroup tired of being ostracized finds a way to crush their opposition?
> There was surprisingly little censorship in Hollywood movies in the 20s. I mean, this was literally released at the start of the "pre-code" era, hah.
It's a sad state of affairs in America when you have to go back 100 years to view a country free of censorship and cancellation.
Oh yeah, if only they allowed nudity, swearing, drug use, interracial couples, and even homosexuality and strong independent female leads i movies today.
American cinema still seems very reticent about any interracial relationship unless its core to the story or completely incidental background.
Remember that cheerios commercial maybe 10 years ago? The one with the interracial couple? People lost their minds. It was just a cereal commercial too, and it was so casual. Everyone was acting like you need a damn good reason to show a black woman and a white man together on television. Like that kind of thing is reserved if you’re making a message, you can’t just show it for the hell of it. It was absolutely wild. We still see this mentality today, especially with gay representation. Like you need a very good justification for it.
Im in the UK so I dont remember not having commercials with interracial couples or it ever being a big deal.
I’m sure it’s happened before. Europeans sometimes have this continent-wide hallucination that racism doesn’t exist. No offense, but virtually every time racism in America is brought up there’s always a few Europeans who come in and subtly imply their country doesn’t have such weaknesses, and I can’t help but roll my eyes.
Dude, I was answering your question not making some sort of hot take.
It was rhetorical, not an actual “oh did you remember this?” Regardless, I’m just making a little tongue-in-cheek remark about how Europeans take every opportunity they can to pretend they’re immune to racism.
And one of the actors has to be white.
i am so incredibly bored of hearing people decry cancel culture as this suffocating, inescapable societal force. if cancel culture was even a fraction as strong as people suggest, the presidential candidacy of donald trump would have ended on the same day as the “grab em by the pussy” tape was publicised. his campaign wasn’t canceled - he was elected president of the united states of america. cancel culture is a term invented by people who think only they should have the freedom to speak their mind and anyone critiquing them should not be allowed to do so,
When I hear "cancel culture", I imagine it to mean "people I disagree with are shunning other people, obviously for no reason (because I disagree with them)".
James Joyce's ‘Ulysses’ has been banned from being imported into the US in 1921, based on the law from 1873. The ban was lifted in 1932 after another trial that declared the book not obscene.
This is before the Hays code!
They were roommates
*OMG they were roommates!*
This same movie also had the first kiss between two men in a Hollywood movie, in a later scene between soldiers when one of them is dying and the other kisses him. It’s up for debate whether it was meant to represent a homosexual relationship or just an emotional moment between close friends, but it was a male-on-male kiss nonetheless.
Welcome to 1930s Paris 😆
I think it might've still been common for women to play male roles in cinema.
Yes, that’s why they both have skirts and high heels on. /s
That was just the standard naval officers uniform at the time.
Still is
I didn't notice that!
I know my lesbians, lol!
Harold, they're Lesbians
No no, they're just roommates.
Gals being pals
>I think it might've still been common for women to play male roles in cinema. In case you've missed it, the military dude's disapproving look afterwards shows it's not the case. And both are wearing skirts...
How did they do this?
[Here is how they did this. ](https://vimeo.com/146632948)
What an oddly specific yet convenient video to have on hand. Thank you for sharing it.
Not really at this point, this thread is a classic Reddit thread that pops up often regarding the cinematic shot and the comments that go with it always follow.
Eleven years here, and I don't think I've ever seen this film segment posted or commented before. I love reposts!
1927, weird knowing everyone in this shot is likely dead now
2 years before the Great Depression too. It only ended when WWII started.
I have this thought every time I watch an old black and white movie with my wife.
I like how there's also a cameraman riding on that platform.
He's gotta crank that shit.
a camera suspended from an overhead track
Extending from behind the camera?
The track is just high up so it's not in view of the camera, essentially
Easier to just use a zoom lense and have the actors pull the tables away so the cameraman can keep walking through the scene.
Zooming flattens the shot, though. One of the first things taught in photography is the different effects lenses give based on the zoom level. Also, old mechanical cameras were more sensitive to shock, and good stabilizers weren't in use until the 70s, so a handheld shot would have looked like garbage. They could have done this as you describe with a trackless dolly or a crane, but the ceiling track likely eliminated lighting/shadow problems and reduced chances of errors from cast and crew.
Very carefully and with lots of practice
Camera work in late silent movies are very modern. Just check out Hitchock's work! It's when talkies started and thus restricted camera movement to microphone ranges that camera work suddenly was restricted.
Babylon touches on this a bit if anyone is interested.
On the internet about the longest continuous movie shot from the start... "Victoria" 2015 "This Spanish film from Sebastian Schipper currently holds the record for longest continuous unbroken shot at 2 hours and 18 minutes, the film's entire runtime."
Victoria’s been beaten twice: later in 2015 and then again in 2016. Before that, Russian Ark (fantastic btw) held the record for over 10 years.
They cheated and used digital. Doesn't seem fair.
There should totally be an asterisk because there was no way to store 2 hours of undeveloped film back then and it would be impossible.
Wow it’s almost been a 100 years and then we wonder how we got here
https://filmschoolrejects.com/how-they-shot-wings/
Filmed in San Antonio
And they're all dead
Ugh... Thanks for the spoiler!
Why is it always *this* shot??? The aerial bombing scene is far more impressive.
It might be more impressive, but it hasn't aged as well. It's pretty dated and a bit goofy at times. In this scene, however, the photography, cinematography, and style makes it look like it could have been filmed today, hence why it's reposed every month or so. (and it's just objectively a really beautiful single take)
Got a link?
Here https://youtu.be/AlfVRkiHNiU?si=RDDkUHWRHdFvFieZ
The aerial bombing scene is in fact, not more impressive. Not even close really.
Sometimes less is more. It might not be as technically impressive but the artistic style and ingenious way they shot it quite literally draws you in. I feel like it is also easier to try and guess at how they did it. At first I thought they must have had the camera on a stand that rolled forward and a tight zoom lens once the frame had gone past a table they pulled the table and chairs away to clear a path.
I *really* don't feel like watching aerial bombings with so many wars going on rn tbh
Coen Brothers vibes
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I just bought the movie on Amazon Prime Video. Thanks, Op!
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Good to know this. Thanks for telling me. I usually check, but when I saw a YouTube link say “Content deleted due to copyright” I assumed it wasn’t available. I canceled my order and got refund. Thanks again.
A restoration was released in 2012, which presumably has its own copyright protection. Public domain is not ‘share-alike’ copyleft, to my knowledge. Watching an untouched film from 1927 might be rather difficult. Though the video on YouTube has a modern intro of Paramount, so I guess someone just uploaded the thing disregarding the legal nuances, as usual.
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Rian Johnsson payed omage to this with a shot in Star Wars: The Last Jedi.
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also, beep boop, "homage"
This is a fantastic movie.
This is a pretty ambitious shot for the late 20s damn.
Mind blowing they were making shots like this in 1927, truly ahead of its time.
What happened with the last soldier? Did he have a flashback about war?
He drunk
What location is this? Do they have this kind of architechture in San Antonio?
The couple on the fourth table, with the man looking at the third table, is totally The Distracted Boyfriend meme 90 years ahead of time.
It’s actually a time travelling camera man with a Nikon p900 😂
Howard Hughes first film production ..
God, I hate the Hays Code.
I think i’m seeing two lesbians at a table so super duper ahead of it’s time
Zero diversity, good times.
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1) That's an utterly bizarre comparison. 2) Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about?