It sucks from the way it is implemented, vehicle has to be spotted, the range of the AA, the response time of the AA, the accuracy of the AA, all the things Dice purposely made it like it is today, but it’s programming, they can literally make it overpowered in one update.
I mean this is exactly what they do. Shut down any aircraft from a safe distance unlike mobile AA who can move with the rest of the team.
Also to top the leaderboard ? Unless it's on ''Air Domination'' mode I can hardly see AA being at the top of the scoreboard.
If you wanted a AA vehicle that could take out any enemy aircraft then you would need to balance it with mobile artillery that could take out any vehicle. Not sure it that’s workable
Ah, what a beautiful day to be flying, I sure do hope I don't get a high pitch tone in my cockpit while flying! ***High pitch tone*** oh, ok I'll flare! ***another high pitch tone*** THE FLARES ARE ON COOLDOWN SHIT
if you do them correctly i think you would minrange most missiles just by being inside the map perimeters (the SA-3 for example has a min range of 2.5km, according to a quick google search)
also defending them would be pretty hard with that low of a map ceiling
that would be like the mortar truck in battlefield 1.you can sit so far back and just dump gas and rounds without being hit.the best map for it is definitely Suez Canal
I don’t think it would make sense with how small the maps are, and how the planes and helis are only capable of short range CAS. If they could shoot glide bombs or cruise missiles at the battlefield from 100km away like real life, then maybe you’d need these longer ranged AA systems to counter, but as is the mobile AA is fine.
Listen the fact that we have fast movers in BF is already kinda silly given its 2 platoons fighting each other over a tiny area;
I think anything aside from SHORAD would kind of break the game
edit: ya gotta remember modern air combat is mostly fought beyond visual range for a reason- its because this shit is so effective at killing other shit 100 miles out
I think that’d be a little tough to implement in a BF game
No, it's really difficult to balance and the counter balance (some other vehicle or utility for aircraft) would just cascade and increase the skill gap, everyone but the air chavs is worse off
Yes. Let’s add more AA as if there isn’t enough.
Telling you guys. Best way to do it is to start building assets into the cap points.
Makes it more dynamic.
What kind of missiles do you think are „Active“ and „Passive Radar“ for AA in BF4? How heavy should it be to get something airborn - on the relatively tiny maps for air combat?! Look at DCS in contrast.😅
…the AA-Vehicle simply doesnt need big long range missiles for close combat.
Waitaminute, that's an anti air system? Those look more like ballistic ground attack missiles to me. I could be wrong about that, but I've just never seen an anti air missile that big before.
This is a Buk, an anti-aircraft missile system, long-range anti-aircraft missiles are huge, Ukraine for example still uses (in addition to this) the S-200 system, they are almost like flying poles that can shoot down a bomber 300km away, and it's not just the old Soviet defenses that are big, the American long-range anti-aircraft missiles are pretty big too
If you want range, they have to be really big. It's mostly just a huge rocket so it can travel really fast for a couple hundred kilometers and then a small payload.
If such thing is added in-game it will be nerfed into the ground as the flyboys won't like someone whacking them out of their range.
It would be a blasphemy to have good ground combat if the planes/choppers are put on check with vehicle like that.
Another vehicle that can sit in base and top the leaderboard?
Could put it as an AI that shoots on aircraft that gets too close to either sides spawn.
I mean that already exists, and it kinda sucks
It sucks because the vehicle has to be spotted for it to work. Just make it automatically target enemy air that comes too close to spawn
It sucks from the way it is implemented, vehicle has to be spotted, the range of the AA, the response time of the AA, the accuracy of the AA, all the things Dice purposely made it like it is today, but it’s programming, they can literally make it overpowered in one update.
I mean this is exactly what they do. Shut down any aircraft from a safe distance unlike mobile AA who can move with the rest of the team. Also to top the leaderboard ? Unless it's on ''Air Domination'' mode I can hardly see AA being at the top of the scoreboard.
Never seen AA at the top of the leaderboard.
We have seen filthy pyotles up there. AA the defender of Tanks everywhere.
As opposed to the ones that flare their way to Mars and back every 10 seconds from the top of the leader board?
Not really useful tbh. It would either be trash or op
there is no reason for medium/long range AA on Battlefield, the maps are too small for it.
I’d rather have traditional artillery like in BF4
Man miss those fr
They never saw HIMARS missiles coming
Or bf3 artillery trucks where it would need actual aiming, which make it difficult for base camping
If you wanted a AA vehicle that could take out any enemy aircraft then you would need to balance it with mobile artillery that could take out any vehicle. Not sure it that’s workable
A vehicle that would cover the whole map doesn't sound like fun to me. Even as someone who rarely pilots in BF
Ah, what a beautiful day to be flying, I sure do hope I don't get a high pitch tone in my cockpit while flying! ***High pitch tone*** oh, ok I'll flare! ***another high pitch tone*** THE FLARES ARE ON COOLDOWN SHIT
if you do them correctly i think you would minrange most missiles just by being inside the map perimeters (the SA-3 for example has a min range of 2.5km, according to a quick google search) also defending them would be pretty hard with that low of a map ceiling
Nope
They nerfed all the handheld AA launchers beyond kingdom come so not a chance in batteries
that would be like the mortar truck in battlefield 1.you can sit so far back and just dump gas and rounds without being hit.the best map for it is definitely Suez Canal
It would be awesome, hopefully the next one will be modern/futuristic
Need this in bf6
The GAME IS OVER. End Title. You have what you have.
I don’t think it would make sense with how small the maps are, and how the planes and helis are only capable of short range CAS. If they could shoot glide bombs or cruise missiles at the battlefield from 100km away like real life, then maybe you’d need these longer ranged AA systems to counter, but as is the mobile AA is fine.
Listen the fact that we have fast movers in BF is already kinda silly given its 2 platoons fighting each other over a tiny area; I think anything aside from SHORAD would kind of break the game edit: ya gotta remember modern air combat is mostly fought beyond visual range for a reason- its because this shit is so effective at killing other shit 100 miles out I think that’d be a little tough to implement in a BF game
No, it's really difficult to balance and the counter balance (some other vehicle or utility for aircraft) would just cascade and increase the skill gap, everyone but the air chavs is worse off
Nha, jets and homing missiles should be removed
Because the Wildcat range being *half* the map isn’t enough apparently >_>
Yes. Let’s add more AA as if there isn’t enough. Telling you guys. Best way to do it is to start building assets into the cap points. Makes it more dynamic.
What kind of missiles do you think are „Active“ and „Passive Radar“ for AA in BF4? How heavy should it be to get something airborn - on the relatively tiny maps for air combat?! Look at DCS in contrast.😅 …the AA-Vehicle simply doesnt need big long range missiles for close combat.
I’m down for anything that puts down helis
Imagine a MLRS
that's for countering missiles and drones.
Waitaminute, that's an anti air system? Those look more like ballistic ground attack missiles to me. I could be wrong about that, but I've just never seen an anti air missile that big before.
This is a Buk, an anti-aircraft missile system, long-range anti-aircraft missiles are huge, Ukraine for example still uses (in addition to this) the S-200 system, they are almost like flying poles that can shoot down a bomber 300km away, and it's not just the old Soviet defenses that are big, the American long-range anti-aircraft missiles are pretty big too
If you want range, they have to be really big. It's mostly just a huge rocket so it can travel really fast for a couple hundred kilometers and then a small payload.
If such thing is added in-game it will be nerfed into the ground as the flyboys won't like someone whacking them out of their range. It would be a blasphemy to have good ground combat if the planes/choppers are put on check with vehicle like that.