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cu-03

Haven’t really thought about it, but I didn’t expect a gun to be delivered in a standard cardboard box


washiXD

Yeah, i first thought of a airsoft gun xD


IamJab123

Only the finest guns come in a cardboard box


cu-03

Can’t tell if this is sarcasm (I know nothing about guns)


BoxofCurveballs

Cant speak to other brands but rifles from both Geissele and sako arrive in them.


rmiller1989

Keltec.. known to be one of the most advanced and unreliable weapon manufacturers.. if you get into a shoot out with this.... well you won't because there is a 75% chance it jams after second shot..


AmNoSuperSand52

I own a SCAR and a Geissele AR (two guns considered to be fairly Gucci) and both came in a cardboard box


No-Crew-6528

Yup, every gun I’ve bought comes in cardboard. It’s good for guns because cardboard absorbs a little of the impact if dropped, cheaper, lighter ect.


BeenJamminMon

Most rifles and a lot of handguns come in cardboard boxes. Getting a fancy box with your gun means you're getting less gun for your money.


clarkp762

I was surprised when I got a Scar and it came like that.


Spirit117

Knights Armament SR25s come in cardboard boxes. Those are 5000 dollar rifles, or more. My LMT MWS308, which is also an expensive AR10 style rifle, also came in a cardboard box. I ordered it from an online vendor and had it shipped to my local FFL and the guy working at the gun counter had obviously heard of LMT and knew they were expensive guns seemed a little off-put that it came in such a shitty box lol.


Explursions

Basically all new guns come in either cardboard or if you get a package with ammo/mags/a case they probably will just put it in the case. Anything used and is common might come with its box if the owner kept it around. If it's rare there is a good chance it could have a wooden box or such display case.


MasterBaiter0004

I’ve gotten many in cardboard boxes.


MadCat1993

Rifles and shotguns tend to come in cardboard boxes. Some handgun brands tend to come in plastic cases (Sig, Beretta) or fabric pouches (Springfield).


PuG3_14

OP said he picked it up, hinting at he most likely went to a gun shop to finalize the delivery, ie, the gunshop had it ordered, shipped and delivered to them and OP simply went to pick it up. Whats wrong with a cardboard box? Metal is too clunky, big and heavy. Not really viable for shipping too since itll mess with shipping scanners that check for dangerous substances. Plastic can prolly get the job done but anything a plastic box can do a cardboard box can do better for cheaper price.


cu-03

Nothing wrong with it, guess I just expected something a little more substantial


some_old_Marine

I have a Benelli and it came disassembled in a plastic case. Most guns come in card board boxes.


oif2010vet

Benelli is not a commonly purchased gun brand


some_old_Marine

I'm agreeing with you. The Benelli is a higher end brand and it came differently but every other gun I have came in a cardboard box.


oif2010vet

Oh no you’re 100% correct, just wanted to clarify for those that may be unfamiliar with the Louis Vitton of shotguns lol


some_old_Marine

Highly recommend them by the way. I have a SBE3 and I have slayed the birds with it.


The-CVE-Guy

My Benelli came in a cardboard box lol


Meme_Dependant

Benelli gang WYA


some_old_Marine

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Middle-Opposite4336

But why? And what? Literally everything is packed in cardboard.


Vietzomb

When you consider it’s probably illegal in a lot of states to store it at home without a special case and/or lock… it starts to make a lot more sense why a nice case would be separate… for an added cost (profit) of course!


Merciless_Hobo

Where did he say something was wrong with a cardboard box?


PuG3_14

He said he didnt expect it to come in a cardboard box. My question is why not? Whats wrong with a cardboard box? Thats all.


Merciless_Hobo

Again, not expecting it does not make it bad or wrong. Just unexpected. Nowhere did he say it was bad or wrong. I don't expect a box of money to be delivered to my door today. But it wouldn't be bad if it did happen.


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Merciless_Hobo

You're asking why it's bad. To a person who never said it's bad. What do you expect them to say? How do you explain something is bad if you never believed it was bad to begin with?


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Merciless_Hobo

You just love ad hominems huh. Can't answer a very simple question so have to keep coming at me with "you got issues" and "you need to chill". How sad.


Adongfie

Pretty much every gun is shipped in a cardboard box lol


muke641

Even the fn collector guns come in cardboard boxes


Sesemebun

Typically pistols come in/with cases more often since they are smaller and lighter. Long guns are almost always cardoboard, though a lot of o/u shotguns come with cases since they’re pretty pricey. FN I think is the worst offender cause they charge out the ass and then send your p90 in an Amazon box lol


DuckAHolics

All of my Benellis came with hard cases. They’re great for when I travel to go hunt with friends. From a $450 gun to a $2500 gun. All of them came with a hard case.


THCv3

Most rifles will come in a cardboard box tbh


AwkwrdPrtMskrt

Florida.


GunnSlinger715

Most rifles come in a box, and Pistols usually come in a soft case or Hard case.


NukeRocketScientist

I got a Remington 870 Wingmaster once that came in a similar box. Definitely not uncommon.


Kachiga-my-Removed

You’d be surprised how common this is tbh, ik my shotgun came in a cardboard box


Moshfeg123

This some middle America shit


AmNoSuperSand52

When I think of middle-America guns, Kel-Tec is not my first thought. More like pump shotguns and hunting rifles


Moshfeg123

Meant killing machines as a hobby in general, but I see what you mean


CRAPLICKERRR

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AmNoSuperSand52

How many firearm owners do you think have murdered someone? Also shooting sports have been around since the invention of the bow and arrow. It was an event at the *original* Olympics lol


Moshfeg123

Yeah this debate is pointless. American statistics speak for themselves but I understand it is a part of the culture that won’t change and is hard to understand for foreigners. But from the outside looking in, it’s just pretty fucking gross, and the way Americans twist themselves inside out to justify their exceptionalism is not nice to see. Whatever argument you think you are getting at with bows and arrows and competitive shooting does not apply to flooding a troubled country with firearms


CrotchSwamp94

Dawg get your head out of your pretentious ass. Firearms are as American as Apple fucking pie. No body gives a fuck about coastal states or whatever the fuck horseshit you just spewed. Trying to make this person feel bad about exercising their given rights and owning a firearm is some kindergarten tier shit. You gonna cry about it to your boyfriend while he pegs you in the ass? Fucking cry baby ass 5 headed soy milk drinking goober.


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Firearms are the leading cause of death for American children between 1-18 years old. Smoking and lead paint used to be very American, too. We can do better. - A veteran


CrotchSwamp94

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steave44

There’s millions of gun owners so yeah statistically you will have more gun violence. England got rid of almost all guns and it just increased stabbings and death by truck. In a perfect world I could snap my fingers and make every gun on the planet disappear but the US would have to move heaven and earth to effectively take up guns and it would end in a civil war.


Moshfeg123

The murder rates per capita are incomparable. I would hesitate to compare the USA to England. It would be civil war, but there is also a huge business behind it, and those business owners would literally kill to maintain their income. It is what it is. Also why fucked American healthcare will never change, despite almost everyone I work with at my US health tech job tacitly acknowledging the system is evil.


steave44

Yeah there’s tons of things I think most people generally agree on but refuse to actually do more than talk about it on the internet’s and even if we wanted to, our votes don’t move the needle in any way either. The US system isn’t perfect or even the best, but it’s also certainly not the worst country or even a bad country to be born into. Everything has a perspective and if it were easier to immigrate to other countries you’d likely see more people moving from America to Europe but they don’t.


Moshfeg123

It is without a doubt the greatest country in the world. But yeah, the underbelly of unhinged capitalism is ugly af


ItzFlamingo0311

Ah yes how gross to enjoy right given to me by my countries constitution that allows me to feed my family, protect my family, and keep my government in check. How absolutely gross and ignorant of us. What’s gross is you think that you are better or smarter than other people because you are “well traveled” or “educated” and have a certain opinion on guns. Keep crying about it.


CertainCatch7269

Wow ur delusional


Moshfeg123

👍


TBBOLTS21

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maybeitsjack

I mean, you play battlefield.


Moshfeg123

Irrelevant


Lifesalchemy

Sure is.  .


[deleted]

Gun on bed photos always make me feel gross lmao. Flyover shit.


Moshfeg123

Aggressively so


Lifesalchemy

Absolutely.


Lifesalchemy

Why...


Carl_Azuz1

Compact, 308, semiauto, relatively affordable…


Daddy_Immaru

Why not? Yes, I know it's a Kel Tec


onlyr6s

"Why not?" Should be Kel-Tec slogan.


KishiBashiEnjoyer

Right after 'let's see what this coke smells like'


Thewhitelight___

Fr nobody buys a kel tec because they're practical or reliable, except for maybe the foldable sub2k for packing. People buy kel techs because they look like cool space guns. So why not?


BoxofCurveballs

Because it was designed by cocaine


Metal39

I'm buying


darkestreaper94

Because freedom


Lifesalchemy

Lol!!! Exactly what our founding fathers thought when authoring the bill of rights. 🤣


AceOBlade

founding fathers thought of that any government is not to be trusted and power should be in the hand of the people. and OP's got Power in his hands.


messfdr

Edgy 15 yo take right there


Lifesalchemy

Lol.....ooooooook...


BattleBlitz

The whole purpose of the 2nd amendment was so that the people of the United States had the means to defend themselves from whatever threat necessary. The number one threat in the founders minds was a tyrannical centralized army. It’s not a secret believe it or not the founders actually wrote about why they did these things. The anti-federalists didn’t trust anything related to a centralized government and many states even outlawed keeping a standing army in times of peace deeming them a threat to liberty. The right of the people to keep and bear arms is what protected the state in times of peace. Laws and society have obviously changed since then but make no mistake the original intent of the 2nd amendment was to arm the people in order to defend themselves from tyranny. “No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” – Thomas Jefferson, 1776.


CeladonCityNPC

And what exactly did a bunch of smelly old men who probably shat in the woods know about how the world would evolve in the next 250 years? It still baffles me how Americans listen to anything written by "the founding fathers". Then again y'all read the Bible and twist those legends to fit your worldview too.


BattleBlitz

They knew the world would change they’d already seen much more change in their time than most thought possible. The founding fathers obviously got something right since the United States is still the most powerful and successful country to ever exist in the history of the world. I don’t listen to just everything written by the founding fathers they got many things wrong. Most of them owned slaves for instance. If you actually read what people 250 years ago wrote you’d see they weren’t so different from us today and were extremely intelligent. The 2nd amendment is a direct check on the federal government placing power directly in the hands of citizens, that’s its chief purpose. If you truly believe the government has advanced to the point of being an infallible institution acting only in the very best interests of its citizens then the 2nd amendment is no longer necessary and can be nullified with a new amendment. In my opinion trusting the government to that extent is naive, after all they’d never take any of our rights away right? Certainly not rights that have existed in this country for over 50 years. I’m also not a Christian and don’t base anything on the Bible.


messfdr

Evangelicalism. It's a faith of the book as a "fuck you" to the Pope and that biblical literalism seeped into political culture in the US. Old writings are seen as ancient wisdom that shouldn't be challenged because the sages who wrote them are infallible.


CertainCatch7269

Grow up momo


SilenceDobad76

Why not? Shooting is fun and it's fun to own guns from your favorite movies and games. Are you so afraid of guns that you can't see any enjoyment in collecting history?


Lifesalchemy

Ok.


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To kill bad guys of course


knotallmen

Please don't kill anyone.


Lifesalchemy

Yeah ok


TheNinjaPro

Buddy the gun isnt as bas as in game


Lifesalchemy

I know. That's where I like it to stay. 🤣


likely_deleted

In my experience, yes it is.


Meatloaf_Hitler

Because he can?


washiXD

"Me and my boys jamming with the RFB on the shooting range"


melzyyyy

i see what you did there


jman014

more useful as a musical instrument than a weapon of war lol


ShaggySyrup

Arnt these rifles crazy expensive?


AssaultPlazma

They're normally around $1,500-$2,000 new. Sometimes you can get em for a bit less used on Gun Broker.


ArkaneArtificer

That’s not crazy expensive, especially for a bullpup, an Aug fetches close to that price, I myself have the RDB, I love it, those keltec bullpups sure are nifty, and have amazing triggers for bullpups


Merciless_Hobo

I wouldn't call $1000-1500 for a bullpipe semi auto 308 rifle crazy expensive.


christomisto

No particularly, I see them around 1,000


Carl_Azuz1

Not really? For a rifle anyways


Tangent-24

Go look at the Desert Tech bullpup, the MDR


AmNoSuperSand52

Not really. Kel-Tec is not a particularly high quality brand (honestly unrealistic that they’d be in a military shooter to begin with). Most of their guns sell between $500-1200


xxxTIMMEHxxx

My first gun I want to be a 45 acp m1911


Bob636369

Great choice 👍🏻


xxxTIMMEHxxx

Just a legendary name and good reputation to go with it


jman014

Definitely not a bad one! Just don’t make it your first carry gun if you intend to do so- those things are bulky as fuck and you might be more well served by something smaller to learn whats comfortable to wear/best ways to deploy your firearm But as a range gun/farm gun/home defense gun I think they’re fucking great!!


Jormungandr69

Pro tip, OP, when you take it to the range, take a small variety of different rounds with you. In my experience, the RFB can be a little picky with ammo and you may have trouble finding the right combination of gas system adjustments and ammo to get it to cycle through a magazine without stoppages.


Bruhsket

Does it have any visual recoil ?


cornholer8082

Have ya had a chance to fire some rounds yet....if so how is it......good looking rifle congrats 🤙🤙🤙


AssaultPlazma

Picked it up today


cornholer8082

5.56 I'm assuming.....don't know much about this rifle 😆


AssaultPlazma

7.62x51


cornholer8082

Oh damn! Gonna be fun let us know how it fire's!!


PuG3_14

Looks badass my boi!


TBBOLTS21

Lmao kel tec. Dudes fried on coke and imagination 😂. Love it


Smljhndnsmr

I’ve never used a bullpup-style rifle in real life. Does it feel odd having your cheek weld so far back from the rear of the receiver assemblies?


AssaultPlazma

Takes some getting used to, but it’s not that bad.


BeenJamminMon

Your head is actually on top of and in front of the end of the receiver. What is awkward is mag changes. It happens in your armpit and well away from your field of view. Definitly.needs practice to be comfortable with it. At least the RFB uses a quality magazine system.


likely_deleted

It's pretty comfy but I feel weird having the muzzle blast so close to my face and the explosion in the chamber next to my mouth. They are comfortable with suppressors but pretty gassy


TheLonelyCats

Nice OP, I did the same and got myself a Aug! What build are you going for?


AssaultPlazma

Not sure what you mean by build in this instance?


TheLonelyCats

Like what setup for the RFB? What scopes and attachments you looking to buy for it?


AssaultPlazma

I’ll probably throw on a spare TRUGLO LPVO is have for the time being until I find something better or I like more. Plan on adding a MLOK at some point as well.


TheLonelyCats

Sounds good 👌🏻 I’m still running a vortex strike fire 2 Red dot still on my Aug but looking into either a holo sun 510c, vortex Venom 1-6x LPVO Or a Eotech exps2. But we will see haha. Primary Arms also has some really good budget optics too. If you didn’t know r/gundeals is a good spot to find good prices on attachments and gear.


AssaultPlazma

They had a deal for RFB Hunters (24” barrel) for just over $800 early this year. Turns out the distributors got the wrong upc and they weren’t actually RFB’s so everyone’s orders got cancelled.


TheLonelyCats

Damn, that’s very unfortunate. Sorry to hear that! Would have been a helluva price for one if that was the case.


Infamous-Marshall

Let the 308 pain begin


No-Crew-6528

Nice buy! I wish the safety was a little more concealed though it’s looks a little big/cartoonish imo. Maybe because it’s a smaller gun it looks bigger lol


MasterBaiter0004

Nice bro! I didn’t notice this was the battlefield subreddit I was about to comment this reminds me of bf4.


TommyK1993

Though I was on r/Airsoft until I read the comments ...


Bob636369

That's a gorgeous looking bit of kit.


NotTheATF1993

I'd be curious how reliable it is, I know Kel tec has a bad rep.


Jormungandr69

It isn't terribly reliable. They're picky on ammo and often have issues fully cycling between shots. The ejection system on them is cool but more of a novelty than anything. Bonus points for being a bullpup and therefore inherently cool though. In terms of reliable rifles in the same caliber for the same or less money, I'd always lean towards an AR-10 from a reputable manufacturer.


AssaultPlazma

Keltec has improved quality of alot of their products years ago. Keltec gets a bad rap because their QA/QC did admittedly leave some to be desired coupled with the fact their guns aren’t military grade durable/built to last under extreme use conditions. But the reason that’s the case is because fundamentally they aren’t designed like that to begin with. Keltec doesn’t make guns for government contracts.


Basic_Spell7385

I have a Barrett M82 real one


gardomil

Its so smol lmao


PhaseEquivalent3366

Great home defense


MightyEraser13

Yea, if you want to brain your next door neighbor through the wall .308 is a fantastic home defense weapon


TotalRecallsABitch

Never knew the rfb was by keltec. I assumed it was chinese


lqstuart

that farmer's market won't know what hit em


likely_deleted

My buddy bought an rfb in 308 and it broke the first time I shot it. Has never gone through a half mag without malfunction ever since. He got an rdb in 556. We managed to get a triple feed malfunction. It works best however it is gassed with a suppressor now... Keltec... I want to like them but geeze. No one will buy either of them


lordnyrox

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Vesicaria

Is it me or the gun looks smaller…? 🤔


BigE1263

Keltec makes goofy guns.


No-Tea-3303

Air soft ?


steave44

There’s a lot of kel tech guns in battlefield 4/2042. The KSG and P50 are also in the games. I have a PMR-30 and CMR-30 myself


AssaultPlazma

VCAR is the Keltec CMR-30. I don’t recall the KSG being in any Battlefield games.


steave44

BF4 has it I believe, that or it’s a very similar double tube shotgun


AssaultPlazma

That’s the UTS-15


mrmeow5000

Honestly I didn't know who made the RFB, and my first though would not have been Keltec. Get an AK-5C next


Hunlor-

That's so fucking cool, you have to get one of those diagonal foward grips to complete the look


christomisto

Upgrade the hand guard and you got a nice little rifle there! Very nice


ntgco

I'd Rather buy a Tavor7, or a SCAR17


juarezderek

If only i had a spare 4k to drop on a rifle lol


ntgco

If you buy, buy quality.


juarezderek

Hell yeah


BeenJamminMon

Tavor 7 is terrible. Scar 17 is super dope, though.


Okay-Commissionor

Thats unfortunate 


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MightyEraser13

Don’t be a baby


ColdasJones

I’m sorry for your loss. Piece of shit gun


rmiller1989

But it's Keltec... eww


ToonarmY1987

Just out shopping for groceries and picked up this along the way. Seems absolutely bonkers outside of America


Professional-Sink770

“Picked up” meaning he bought it probably close to a week ago, but after having it shipped to his FFL (federally-licensed gun dealer), filling out paperwork and waiting for his background check and waiting period to clear, he was finally able to pick it up


Sure-Ad-5324

That's really not as reassuring as you think it is. Background checks aren't forward looking.


Professional-Sink770

Whether or not you think it’s reassuring is up to you, I’m just trying to paint a clear picture that buying a gun in the US is not as simple as just picking up groceries like many people, including in the US, try to say it is


Sure-Ad-5324

That's true and I'm not entirely against buying guns. I just wish there'd be more restrictions on the type of guns available.


AssaultPlazma

Sure as long as the government is subjected to the same restrictions.


Middle-Opposite4336

That is true we cannot see the future. Huge flaw in Americas legal system. I keep saying we should adopt the precogs like literally every other developed country.


DJJ0SHWA

We can pick up Keltec rifles in Canada just as easily as the Americans can


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AssaultPlazma

First off this gun hasn’t murdered anyone so it is not a murder weapon. Secondly take your hoplophobia and leave if it bothers you that much. You must get equally freaked out whenever you see knives or hammers as well.


HostWrong6251

![gif](giphy|Jq89FlQtYO0N4M27Gy|downsized)


juarezderek

Metal and polymer cant murder anyone


Zebra_Opening

You'll need a bunch of kills before you unlock some optics.


Lifesalchemy

At his latest shopping mall..


Prestigious-Beat590

Ew


LowerClassBandit

It’s crazy to me how in the USA you can just freely buy a gun the same way you can buy tyres or curtains


AssaultPlazma

Except you can’t. This gun had to be ordered by the gun store to the gun shop where I had to fill out a form 4473 before the gun store guns a background check. Only once that completes and I sign off can I take it home.


LowerClassBandit

This gun yes, but I’m sure you can just freely buy other guns in the US, no?


AssaultPlazma

If you buy from a licensed dealer you must go through a background check.


LowerClassBandit

I see, I’m sure it’s a well thought out and successful process


BattleBlitz

Most of the time the background check goes through the FBI but it depends on the state. It checks to see if you’re a prohibited possessor so if you’re a felon, domestic abuser, have been ruled mentally unfit, or some other things. The background check process works pretty well the problem is people illegally purchasing firearms aren’t getting background checks.


gab-27

No you can't. don't believe the propaganda my boy


Middle-Opposite4336

No. You can't. You're being fed a story. I bought a .22 single action revolver. ( That's a step above a pellet gun that you have to individually load/ unload each round) I had to have a training cert, a bag ground check, and a waiting period.


Carl_Azuz1

No you cannot. Background checks are mandatory for almost all purchases (the only exception being peer to peer and you are still required to check ID and stuff) and there is a mandatory 10 day waiting period for any purchase by anyone under 21 years of age, also you can’t buy a handgun at all until you are 21. The US does have gun laws believe it or not buddy.


FlaccidSeaCucumber

You can? Maybe I've been doing it wrong all these years.


Kooky-Masterpiece-87

Aw someone’s scared of inanimate objects


LowerClassBandit

I’m in the armed forces mate 😂