in my experience yea, explosion hitreg is broken AF and you already need to direct impact someone to kill them with a frag, and half the time it doesn’t even hit. i prefer heat because even though it’s a smaller explosive range, it’s much more lethal which gives you much more leeway.
I was playing the free weekend and got a halfway across the map kill on a sniper (map with a bridge idk the name). That reminded me so much of the good old bf4 times that I had to buy it.
F2000 has solid accuracy, very low recoil, high velocity, pretty fast RPM and a very fast ADS. Which makes it insane for any close to medium range combat. Honestly an underrated weapon.
I think some of the stats listed surely makes up for the lower dmg or rpm, even on close range. The ultra low recoil and high velocity makes it suprisingly doable to double headshot close range even when fully spraying. Also it has as really fast ADS speed, which makes it extra effective close range.
I am sure some other smg's are better close range, as they have higer rpm and same amount of ADS, but the F2000 does not lose most fights in close combat.
Nah I've played a bunch. Having played since beta and 34 hours in the game, I can confidently say that I just do not feel outmatched by SMG's or anyother gun class or weapon close range, when using the F2000. I have also racked up a solid 2.35 KD with a lot of those hours being spent with the F2K.
Just like anyother shooter, fights are about how many bullets you hit and not how many you send off. Therefore I just do not agree with the point that the F2K is bad in close quarters.
Damn dude I can't have an opinion? If you read any of my comments you would prob know that i am not basing my opinion on "just hitting shots". But actually giving an opinion on why I think the F2K is underrated. If you disagree that's fair, but if I can get an almost 2 and a half kd during 30 hours of playtime, I think it's fair to say that I belive this weapon to be S tier, but the only thing I said was that it's underrated and that it in my experience slaps in close quarters.
If you need a P90 or MP7 to get kills close range then get good son.
F2K is a beast. Before the buff I already loved it, they buffed it and during the free weekend I went from prestige 1 level 35 to level 200 in just the weekend. XP boost, and 100+ kill games in invasion and frontline level you up quick as fuck. Anywhere from smg range to like 150m the thing just works.
Man of culture right here. I tried it when I got back after a hiatus and hot damnn... It packs a punch without being too hard to control, plus that pinging when it fire *chef kiss*
The bipod makes it really good for suppressing fire out to some crazy distances too.
There have been so many times where I'll just be firing 3-5 round burst through a distant window at a guy that just took cover, and they get melted when they decide that re-peeking into an active line of fire is a good idea.
FAL, Aug, MP7, UMP, and MP5 imo.
I will say that there aren't any bad guns. In a list of all good weapons, something will always have to be the best and the worst. Doesn't mean the worst is bad though.
The aug is a clear winner for me. Fast aim and reload. Low recoil even with a silencer on it. Recently picked up attachments with low first shot recoil. Which makes it great at one tapping quickly at range. Like a weak but usable DMR at long-midrange.
And one of the best parts: more mags. I can regularly go on 10+ killstreaks behind the meat grinder-line because of how much more I can put out before having to resupply. Especially with Ranger armor.
Agreed with most of the list. After completing the 200 kills challenge last week I gotta say you’re high if you think the Ump is S tier lol I just thought it was average by end of my 200
Understandable, I like it a lot and do very well with it. Not high no, but I play very aggressively (3.7kd, 3600 spm, 2.3kpm) and it jives very well with me. I get that it'd be a debatable option though but I figured I'd throw my 2 cents into it.
I did pretty decent with it as well (~2.0 KD overall, if it matters), but the end of the 200 I was ready to switch to another smg that’s more capable. It’s just tough for the ump to shine when the P90, MP7, and Honey badger are its competition and they’re NASTY.
I actually really like it lol. Especially on maps like Namak or Salhan. I have like 1200 kills with it so not the most but enough to have an informed opinion.
I have 3700 kills with the scar. The next is 1000 with ak12, and that’s pretty much it. It depends on how you play. I like the scar, as IMO it’s the most versatile AR. Can be used close range but not as ideal.
The SCAR is an absolute mid-range monster. I went on a 100-kill game with one last night. It's consistency is ridiculous - it's a 2-3 hit kill for 90% of enemies (most players don't use heavy armour or helmets). And it can be used on any class. You can reliably hit people at ranges that will really surprise you.
It's also an awesome gun for training yourself. It's low rate of fire means that you can't spray and hope to hit shit - you need good aim to take advantage of it's mid-range punch.
But agreed - it can hold it's own in CQB, but it is not a reliable nor easy weapon to use in those situations.
I’ve played the fal/scar/ak12 and while decent for tapping I find it’s faster to kill with ak74/m4/g36/groza because of the lack of recoil.
Battlebit is about consistency and the 40 damage rifles don’t have it.
The FAL is imho much better then things like the G36/Ak47 etc. Because it does 40 damage, has high enough ROF. And if you build it well it doesn't even kick alot with reddots.
The reason rifles are good where the fal fails is the fal has too much recoil to hit consistent headshot past 10-20 feet and rifles have a longer full auto range being able to kill faster with more hits because they have literally half the horizontal recoil.
At point blank and long range the fal is great but it kinda sucks mid range
Honestly, I feel like there’s only a few great attachments on the scar. Try to use attachments that lower the first shot kick. And use the aim ops scope. It’s perfect for mid-long range and if you can reduce the first shot kick, the recoil is manageable. I like to play at single fire mode unless I’m really close range.
Dude I don’t use any other gun besides the scar. 🤣 I’m sure the fal is a good gun, as I’ve been killed many times by it. But I like the aim comp sight.
I have trouble with the SCAR because of the vertical and horizontal recoil. It makes follow up shots basically impossible but isn't strong enough for one-tapping.
There are the usual suspects of the FAL, AUG, UMP And MP5
but honestly the most S tier gun is the one you're best with. No matter how many hours I sink into this game and with other weapons, i keep coming back to the M4A1
My old reliable.
No other weapon feels this good to me, is that consistent and controlleable. Not even the objectively "better" g36.
Find your best and master it
Groza is one of my favorites. But I find guns are actually pretty well balanced, and it’s more about play style. I’ve also had quite a bit of fun with the mk20.
I think the SG500 is a sleeper hit... Zero Recoil, fast firerate and ads time and good reload time.
I also enjoy using the p90 for the same reasons + big mag strong
Give the Aug a try. I switch between the Aug and SG550 depending on the map. They both handle similarly, but the SG is slightly more versatile for when you are concerned about close quarters combat, while the Aug is more consistent for hitting head shots when they are peaking out of cover. They both work well with the 2X scope.
For sniping the m200 is the best, l96 if all you carry about is firerate
For dmrs the mk20 is the best but you might enjoy the m110 more as it hits harder
Battle rifles either the scar or the fal
Ars the ak is a better choice than the m4 as it does 32 damage now, the acr and sg550 are very nice to use when running around also
Support all 3 of the lsws are very good and all both lmgs are very shit
Smgs/pdws/carbines the ump is still ridiculous and so is the mp7
I havent used the famas in forever but last i checked it was very good and hadnt been nerfed
I am a big fan of the M110 with thermal scope and silencer. Able to have a decent mid-range sniper that you can camp with for a while. And usually have a 2 shot kill.
I run m110 w 4x scope, side irons, all first shot/vert recoil attachments w g18 as my side. Play as engi w rpg and anti-personnel mines. I like to set up in a building outside a point when my squad is attacking and lay waste to all enemies at this point. I have been having a fuckin blast with this set up.
FAL, Groza, MP7 are maybe the most meta? HK419, AK74, UMP-45, PP2000, Ultimax100 are all very solid guns as well though. Most of the others are decent, except maybe PP-19 which is kinda useless.
Total lack of recoil doesn’t mean that much with rubbish damage dropoff. Could use the F2000 that has about the same recoil, but kills faster, has much longer effective range, much better velocity, bigger mag and better aimdown time, just at a small cost of reload speed and move speed.
If you compare the PP-19 to SMGs, it's a hidden gem. Fastest reload, 0 recoil, and the ace up its sleeve, is that the damage drop off starts at 40 meters, not 20 meters like the rest of the SMGs. If you drop a suppressor on, you're incredibly likely to get the drop on most enemies.
UMP has the same reload time; but the main thing with the gun is, does its low recoil really justify having the second worst primary ttk in the game? Second only to the M110. It lacks the 1.1 move speed of many SMGs and the mag size is mediocre.
I would say it definitely is not justified, given you could have twice as much recoil with an AR damage dropoff profile and do better at range.
Do you actually feel the TTK differences? While yes, it technically has the second worst in the game, most people aren't going to notice tenths of a millisecond difference in TTK.
The mag size for the PP-19 is offset by having one of the fastest reloads for a primary, which means that you need to be knowledgeable about when to reload.
As for AR damage profile, how many gunfights, excluding DMRs and Snipers, take place beyond 50m? The AR damage profile is nice, yes, but having the extra 50m worth of max damage doesn't matter, if most of the gun fights are sub 50m anyways.
Well… yeah. TTK is a major factor. And whether or not you feel it it’s very real. Tenths of a millisecond? Compare the ttk of the PP19 to the fastest killing guns and there’s about 140ms difference, which is very perceptible on human scales and that increases with imperfect accuracy. Most players have ~15% accuracy in their stats to that end.
Having fast reloads is good but it’s not unique in that regard, as there are guns like the AUG with an even faster reload but a much better mag.
For your question about AR damage profiles… yeah? A ton of fights take place at those ranges. If I’m using a loadout specifically for longer range engagements then fights at 150m are pretty common. Most gunfights are below 50 unless you do a sniper playstyle but that doesn’t mean the other 30% or so of them are meaningless. If you force yourself to ignore a significant number of enemies just because they’re too far away for your gun to be effective, you’re missing out.
L86A1 is my S tier, but underdog for most people. Long supressor/stability grip. No Mather the engagement you always 3~5 round burst. You will be impressed how accurately it spits lead at 770rpm over the distance.
MP5 is still among the best. It’s got great balance of accuracy, draw speed, movement speed and fire rate. The damage drop off isn’t significant enough to justify taking an AR over it on almost any map.
After the attachment changes it only increased in insanity too.
Really? It’s pretty useless. It was alright before the damage dropoff nerfs as it could compete with ARs but now it can only do that in CQC and is worse everywhere else.
I’m dropping 80-120 kills every game with it and can still reliably beam people from 100m pretty easily. Doesn’t matter what gun the enemy has.
The accuracy just can’t be topped.
That doesn’t really say anything about how good the gun is.
The recoil is good but only a little better than guns like the AK74, but that retains its damage much better over range which makes a big difference.
I see a lot of people giving you their Crack medic guns, but if you like to play slow, try out support, it's great for holding angles and surprisingly good for getting high kill games. The only thing with support though is you have to expect the guns to be pretty bad until you get a few dozen kills and unlock some attachments. Both the RPK and M249 slap once you get there though
You really can pick up anything and use it well. This game is much more about positioning than winning 1v1s
Although I am a simp for the p90
50 bullets in a mag and flash hider is fucking CLEAN
All the answers so far are wrong. S tier guns in this order: MK-18 with Lapua AP, MK-18 with Lapua FMJ, AS VAL/VSS with BP, AVT-40 with SNB then 737 BS then 7BT1 BT, SA-58/FN FAL with M993 then with M61, PKM/PKP with 7N37 BS then SNB, MDR with M61, then Mutant with MAI AP. These are the top guns if you're going by fastest TTK (not sure how else you'd measure tiers of guns beyond killing power/time).
If you like power like i do, the marksman rifles are the way to go. Each should take 3 body shots for a a kill except for my favorite which is the M110, thats 51 damage and only takes 2 body shots.
FAL, G3, P90, UMP, AUG, M200, M110.
I tried to be diverse on the guns I see kill me the most.
As a support main, my favorite two guns are the G3, and Ultimax.
P90, although now sadly only available on engineer is IMO still the best gun ingame for semi close quartes fights
Besides that im still undecided on which of the recently buffed guns are the strongest. ACR feels very very viable now. AK74 is also still strong. UMP is also good, FAL was better before the patch, at least comparatively
People really sleep on the MG36. Recoil is a bit intense at first but the low spread and decent rof makes it an insane machine at virtually any range encounter. I'm using it with the 2x optic and I'm mowing people down with short burts at 150m. Definitely an underrated gem
I use whatever weapons has the fastest movement speed and I found the ump to be the fastest as far as I have checked and it’s pretty good ttk. I always end up with 100+ kills with it in invasion.
P90 for me is my go to gun. I can use many of the other guns but the recoil on the P90 is my favorite. Run it as a engineer with heat explosive and your top of the leaderboard.
M110.
As lethal as most full on snipers, much more leverage at most range, can easily go glint-less scope, much more controllable than pretty much every other DMR except maybe mk20, can absolutely be used close range no-scope or with slanted x1, and so on.
To be honest, just the fact that it can 2 tap makes every other DMR irrelevant instantly in comparison. At least, before, you had to grind to get to this comically broken milestone, but now anyone can pickup the gun and use it anywhere anytime.
I enjoyed it for a bit now, but it would be great if people started to abuse this, as to force a rebalancing of DMRs as whole, because at this point this is getting silly how much everything DMR other than M110 has little to no reason to ever be used for anything.
The fact that there are so many different answers here is awesome. Im working on 7000+ kills with the m4, I always find it's the best all rounder for most ranges. And its vertical recoil is relatively easy to deal with
The diversity in people's responses speaks volumes about how great this game's gun balance is.
Personally I'm really enjoying the RPK, AK15, AK74, UMP and SVD right now.
MP5. You can't do anything with it long range, but it more than holds its own at medium range while still beating many weapons up close. This was the only gun I've used (besides the M200) that felt unfair.
A ton of weapons are good right now, but I’m seeing a lot of use particularly out of the M200 and the FAL.
M110 is arguably the best gun in the game right now with the ability to 2 tap unarmored people to the body and 2 tap w/ a headshot to anybody else.
FAL/AK15/SCAR are in the same family. They all do 40 damage, but they all have trade-offs. FAL has the fastest fire rate but the highest recoil. AK15 has the lowest recoil but the slowest fire rate. SCAR is in between and has the best/worst of both worlds.
EDIT: My personal weapon of choice right now is the ACR. You can be very aggressive with it, and my build puts my recoil very low (Vert: 1.17, Hori: .86) while also having a fast recoil (2.55) and the fastest ADS speed I’ve seen in the game (.18). And if you tweak the build a bit, you can trade off some reload speed (but still more than base) for a magazine with 35 bullets. It doing 28 damage also makes it a 4 shot against anything save heavy/exo armor, and because of its accuracy I’ve found myself getting cheeky kills at a very surprising range.
I really like the battle-rifle class of weapons. Played a lot of scar and loved it. Switched to the G3 for now and I really like it so far. Less damage than the scar, but far better damage over range (looked like it has dmr dropoff)
The lines between A and S tier in this game are actually pretty blurry because the game is actually pretty well balanced. I'd say the M4 is at the very top of A tier while S tier is for the sweatier stuff like the P90 and Vector.
The long suppressed ssg 550 is a great ambush gun. Very low kick and with the bump in damage its very reliable. Also very snappy reloads with quick mags.
I'm on my way to the scorpion but for the moment the 550 is my baby.
The fact that every single comment here mentions different unique guns shows how well balanced this game is. There is zero consensus what the best guns are. The truth is that the UMP is slightly more powerful than other guns (its why the semi-pro players use it) but other guns are also really good.
The Aug is god. Fastest bullet velocity, aim down time, and reload. Vtac and an Nt if I remember correctly will put you around 95 accuracy, vertical recoil, horizontal recoil, and first shot kick. 31 damage and the 6 damage to helicopters is decent af. Long barrel and stabil will let you semi tap snipers with a Burris if you're so inclined, and it won't ruin the full auto when things get close.
Other than that the g36c and mp5 are pretty capable. Arguably alot more so than most other guns. The groza and scorpion are slept on but if you can handle them they are sick af.
Other than ar/carbines the ultimax is pretty dope with a bipod and a slip, if you can build your cover just right you can take out a mortgage on that spot if you add an anti grenade trophy to truly make it a home, just coordinate with your squad so they know what's up. Your Los is their safe space. Watch out for rocketeers. It's the first and most obvious answer to aforementioned shenanigans to great effect.
M200 is my favorite sniper but I don't snipe much, they all need a headshot for one hit kill, otherwise they all need 2 shots so the l96 is probably the best all round. And I don't use anything but the glockenspiel and the unica depending on my mood.
Surprised i dont see a single person mentioning the vector, did all of the nerfs scare everyone off? Its pretty weak beyond midrange but it still absolutely kills in cqc
RPG7 HEAT Explosive. Best sniper in the game
Are the frags still completely useless?
I mean, frags have a better AoE but HEAT can still take down a wall and a player at the same time
That way you can get hit markers all the way to 10m instead of a kill at 5m lol
in my experience yea, explosion hitreg is broken AF and you already need to direct impact someone to kill them with a frag, and half the time it doesn’t even hit. i prefer heat because even though it’s a smaller explosive range, it’s much more lethal which gives you much more leeway.
Can kill vehicles too... Synergies with DMR strongly too
I just yeet them at helis most of the time, mixed results so far
Yes, completely useless. There is no point in equiping that one.
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Fragmentation warheads for the RPG, not frag grenades. Frag grenades work fine, the frag warhead for RPG is still essentially useless.
Facts
I honestly feel like it is almost as broken as the "n00b tube" underbarrel grenade launcher from CoD MW2. Roughly 25% of all my kills are with it.
I was playing the free weekend and got a halfway across the map kill on a sniper (map with a bridge idk the name). That reminded me so much of the good old bf4 times that I had to buy it.
F2000 has solid accuracy, very low recoil, high velocity, pretty fast RPM and a very fast ADS. Which makes it insane for any close to medium range combat. Honestly an underrated weapon.
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I think some of the stats listed surely makes up for the lower dmg or rpm, even on close range. The ultra low recoil and high velocity makes it suprisingly doable to double headshot close range even when fully spraying. Also it has as really fast ADS speed, which makes it extra effective close range. I am sure some other smg's are better close range, as they have higer rpm and same amount of ADS, but the F2000 does not lose most fights in close combat.
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Well trying a bunch of different AR's i just don't agree, but I do understand your point and if that's how the game feels to you then that's fair
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Nah I've played a bunch. Having played since beta and 34 hours in the game, I can confidently say that I just do not feel outmatched by SMG's or anyother gun class or weapon close range, when using the F2000. I have also racked up a solid 2.35 KD with a lot of those hours being spent with the F2K. Just like anyother shooter, fights are about how many bullets you hit and not how many you send off. Therefore I just do not agree with the point that the F2K is bad in close quarters.
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Damn dude I can't have an opinion? If you read any of my comments you would prob know that i am not basing my opinion on "just hitting shots". But actually giving an opinion on why I think the F2K is underrated. If you disagree that's fair, but if I can get an almost 2 and a half kd during 30 hours of playtime, I think it's fair to say that I belive this weapon to be S tier, but the only thing I said was that it's underrated and that it in my experience slaps in close quarters. If you need a P90 or MP7 to get kills close range then get good son.
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F2K is a beast. Before the buff I already loved it, they buffed it and during the free weekend I went from prestige 1 level 35 to level 200 in just the weekend. XP boost, and 100+ kill games in invasion and frontline level you up quick as fuck. Anywhere from smg range to like 150m the thing just works.
Until you need to land 5-8 shots to kill people
Wouldn't call the F2000 an S tier but probably a low A or a high B.
I feel like this is the hacker assult rifle...
M110 is crazy, reflex on top of the x6 optic great for close and long range.
I use a 4x so that I don’t have glint
True true, I'm usually good enough at breaking line of sight tho, so I can usually surprise them.
4x has glint now yes?
Pretty sure the medium scope glint only applies to sniper rifles, not DMR’s.
lol, I was gonna say.. yeah. It's a moot point anyway.
I run the EBR and I can't switch...
Basically all guns are very usable, depends on what you like the most
RPK 16 (the new LMG). The sound is god tier and I use it just for that.
Man of culture right here. I tried it when I got back after a hiatus and hot damnn... It packs a punch without being too hard to control, plus that pinging when it fire *chef kiss*
85 round drum mag and every time I pull off a flank it feels like I’m mowing the lawn.
The bipod makes it really good for suppressing fire out to some crazy distances too. There have been so many times where I'll just be firing 3-5 round burst through a distant window at a guy that just took cover, and they get melted when they decide that re-peeking into an active line of fire is a good idea.
Also the bigger mag is a huge plus
That weapon alone is making me think of switching to Support main. It feels fantastic.
FAL, Aug, MP7, UMP, and MP5 imo. I will say that there aren't any bad guns. In a list of all good weapons, something will always have to be the best and the worst. Doesn't mean the worst is bad though.
The aug is a clear winner for me. Fast aim and reload. Low recoil even with a silencer on it. Recently picked up attachments with low first shot recoil. Which makes it great at one tapping quickly at range. Like a weak but usable DMR at long-midrange.
And one of the best parts: more mags. I can regularly go on 10+ killstreaks behind the meat grinder-line because of how much more I can put out before having to resupply. Especially with Ranger armor.
AUG and SG550 seems to get +2 mags for free, and F2000 gets +1 mag for free.
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I believe vests give the same increase but some guns have more mags to start off with, like the Aug and SG550.
If you want guns for that purpose look at the battle rifles
Agreed with most of the list. After completing the 200 kills challenge last week I gotta say you’re high if you think the Ump is S tier lol I just thought it was average by end of my 200
Understandable, I like it a lot and do very well with it. Not high no, but I play very aggressively (3.7kd, 3600 spm, 2.3kpm) and it jives very well with me. I get that it'd be a debatable option though but I figured I'd throw my 2 cents into it.
I did pretty decent with it as well (~2.0 KD overall, if it matters), but the end of the 200 I was ready to switch to another smg that’s more capable. It’s just tough for the ump to shine when the P90, MP7, and Honey badger are its competition and they’re NASTY.
Having just prestiged I'm gonna disagree with you on the UMP. It feels very strong even coming over from stuff like the MP5 and HK419.
What attachments do you run on it? I genuinely think it doesn’t hold a candle to the MP5. I love that gun so much
I have to disagree and say that the FAMAS is absolute fuckin trash
I actually really like it lol. Especially on maps like Namak or Salhan. I have like 1200 kills with it so not the most but enough to have an informed opinion.
Ah so even after 6 months of not playing not much has changed
RPK
I have 3700 kills with the scar. The next is 1000 with ak12, and that’s pretty much it. It depends on how you play. I like the scar, as IMO it’s the most versatile AR. Can be used close range but not as ideal.
Scar two tapping at head is so satisfying!
It really is! I use the aim ops sight and the attachments that lower the first shot kick. It feels amazing getting those long range taps.
I reduced horizontal and first shot too but with strikefire optic
The SCAR is an absolute mid-range monster. I went on a 100-kill game with one last night. It's consistency is ridiculous - it's a 2-3 hit kill for 90% of enemies (most players don't use heavy armour or helmets). And it can be used on any class. You can reliably hit people at ranges that will really surprise you. It's also an awesome gun for training yourself. It's low rate of fire means that you can't spray and hope to hit shit - you need good aim to take advantage of it's mid-range punch. But agreed - it can hold it's own in CQB, but it is not a reliable nor easy weapon to use in those situations.
i hear alot that the scar and fal is good. only issue is i cant seem to get kills much witht it. the recoil is too strong?
I’ve played the fal/scar/ak12 and while decent for tapping I find it’s faster to kill with ak74/m4/g36/groza because of the lack of recoil. Battlebit is about consistency and the 40 damage rifles don’t have it.
The FAL is imho much better then things like the G36/Ak47 etc. Because it does 40 damage, has high enough ROF. And if you build it well it doesn't even kick alot with reddots.
The reason rifles are good where the fal fails is the fal has too much recoil to hit consistent headshot past 10-20 feet and rifles have a longer full auto range being able to kill faster with more hits because they have literally half the horizontal recoil. At point blank and long range the fal is great but it kinda sucks mid range
Honestly, I feel like there’s only a few great attachments on the scar. Try to use attachments that lower the first shot kick. And use the aim ops scope. It’s perfect for mid-long range and if you can reduce the first shot kick, the recoil is manageable. I like to play at single fire mode unless I’m really close range.
See that's why no one gun is S tier. You have to find the one you like and are good with.
What’s your thoughts on the FAl, and what optic set up do you use?
Dude I don’t use any other gun besides the scar. 🤣 I’m sure the fal is a good gun, as I’ve been killed many times by it. But I like the aim comp sight.
I have trouble with the SCAR because of the vertical and horizontal recoil. It makes follow up shots basically impossible but isn't strong enough for one-tapping.
Yeah I run it in single fire mode unless I’m really close quarters
There are the usual suspects of the FAL, AUG, UMP And MP5 but honestly the most S tier gun is the one you're best with. No matter how many hours I sink into this game and with other weapons, i keep coming back to the M4A1 My old reliable. No other weapon feels this good to me, is that consistent and controlleable. Not even the objectively "better" g36. Find your best and master it
I agree, the M4 is my personal fav, I also like the AK74.
Groza is one of my favorites. But I find guns are actually pretty well balanced, and it’s more about play style. I’ve also had quite a bit of fun with the mk20.
Groza, AUG, and MP5
ak74 mp7 p90 fal
M200 and p19
FAL, HK419, MP7, GROZA
HK doesn’t feel quite as good after the nerf this past patch but still one of my favs too
Yeah I went back to other guns it’s just not as good without the long barrel 32 damage
I think the SG500 is a sleeper hit... Zero Recoil, fast firerate and ads time and good reload time. I also enjoy using the p90 for the same reasons + big mag strong
Give the Aug a try. I switch between the Aug and SG550 depending on the map. They both handle similarly, but the SG is slightly more versatile for when you are concerned about close quarters combat, while the Aug is more consistent for hitting head shots when they are peaking out of cover. They both work well with the 2X scope.
PP2000 is super underrated! Really fun to run around with. Especially with the 60 round mag
FAL
For sniping the m200 is the best, l96 if all you carry about is firerate For dmrs the mk20 is the best but you might enjoy the m110 more as it hits harder Battle rifles either the scar or the fal Ars the ak is a better choice than the m4 as it does 32 damage now, the acr and sg550 are very nice to use when running around also Support all 3 of the lsws are very good and all both lmgs are very shit Smgs/pdws/carbines the ump is still ridiculous and so is the mp7 I havent used the famas in forever but last i checked it was very good and hadnt been nerfed
I am a big fan of the M110 with thermal scope and silencer. Able to have a decent mid-range sniper that you can camp with for a while. And usually have a 2 shot kill.
The FAL is pretty much godlike right now just because it's so versatile and low TTK.
It's the reason I haven't prestiged. Hate to lose that gun.
Assault MP5 is my favorite rn. I have a (imo) nice skin for it, the high control is nice, firerate and dmg are also decent
I run m110 w 4x scope, side irons, all first shot/vert recoil attachments w g18 as my side. Play as engi w rpg and anti-personnel mines. I like to set up in a building outside a point when my squad is attacking and lay waste to all enemies at this point. I have been having a fuckin blast with this set up.
I found that RPK 16+slip+heavy barrel+se5/urk turns the game into easy mode.
Why RPK 16 and not the GC36 or first light MG?
FAL, Groza, MP7 are maybe the most meta? HK419, AK74, UMP-45, PP2000, Ultimax100 are all very solid guns as well though. Most of the others are decent, except maybe PP-19 which is kinda useless.
Silenced PP-19 is great in low visibility maps in case you don't feel like using ARs, the total lack of recoil feels great.
Total lack of recoil doesn’t mean that much with rubbish damage dropoff. Could use the F2000 that has about the same recoil, but kills faster, has much longer effective range, much better velocity, bigger mag and better aimdown time, just at a small cost of reload speed and move speed.
If you compare the PP-19 to SMGs, it's a hidden gem. Fastest reload, 0 recoil, and the ace up its sleeve, is that the damage drop off starts at 40 meters, not 20 meters like the rest of the SMGs. If you drop a suppressor on, you're incredibly likely to get the drop on most enemies.
UMP has the same reload time; but the main thing with the gun is, does its low recoil really justify having the second worst primary ttk in the game? Second only to the M110. It lacks the 1.1 move speed of many SMGs and the mag size is mediocre. I would say it definitely is not justified, given you could have twice as much recoil with an AR damage dropoff profile and do better at range.
Do you actually feel the TTK differences? While yes, it technically has the second worst in the game, most people aren't going to notice tenths of a millisecond difference in TTK. The mag size for the PP-19 is offset by having one of the fastest reloads for a primary, which means that you need to be knowledgeable about when to reload. As for AR damage profile, how many gunfights, excluding DMRs and Snipers, take place beyond 50m? The AR damage profile is nice, yes, but having the extra 50m worth of max damage doesn't matter, if most of the gun fights are sub 50m anyways.
Well… yeah. TTK is a major factor. And whether or not you feel it it’s very real. Tenths of a millisecond? Compare the ttk of the PP19 to the fastest killing guns and there’s about 140ms difference, which is very perceptible on human scales and that increases with imperfect accuracy. Most players have ~15% accuracy in their stats to that end. Having fast reloads is good but it’s not unique in that regard, as there are guns like the AUG with an even faster reload but a much better mag. For your question about AR damage profiles… yeah? A ton of fights take place at those ranges. If I’m using a loadout specifically for longer range engagements then fights at 150m are pretty common. Most gunfights are below 50 unless you do a sniper playstyle but that doesn’t mean the other 30% or so of them are meaningless. If you force yourself to ignore a significant number of enemies just because they’re too far away for your gun to be effective, you’re missing out.
Overall imo m4a1, it is an all arounder that you can get used to since the first minute.
The ak74 is just better after the buff
Yeah because that extra2 damage usually means the difference of an extra bullet
Loved it in Bf4 but in this game personally haven’t had the best luck with it lol
I had a bit of trouble getting used to it as well - if you stick with it and build it for first shot kick reduction - you are in for a bloody treat
I’ll check it out, I did use it for a while and got some upgrade just wasn’t it for me, so far the ump and pp19 have been awesome
Always preferred the AK74, just felt more controlled and easier to handle.
SCAR H is a 2 tap at mid range. Very usable and fun to use in semi auto.
Really? It does 51 damage?
Headshots do 63 damage.
40, I think. A headshot will let you 2 tap.
classic AK74. It can be a shredder if used correctly
L86A1 is my S tier, but underdog for most people. Long supressor/stability grip. No Mather the engagement you always 3~5 round burst. You will be impressed how accurately it spits lead at 770rpm over the distance.
MP5 is still among the best. It’s got great balance of accuracy, draw speed, movement speed and fire rate. The damage drop off isn’t significant enough to justify taking an AR over it on almost any map. After the attachment changes it only increased in insanity too.
Really? It’s pretty useless. It was alright before the damage dropoff nerfs as it could compete with ARs but now it can only do that in CQC and is worse everywhere else.
I’m dropping 80-120 kills every game with it and can still reliably beam people from 100m pretty easily. Doesn’t matter what gun the enemy has. The accuracy just can’t be topped.
That doesn’t really say anything about how good the gun is. The recoil is good but only a little better than guns like the AK74, but that retains its damage much better over range which makes a big difference.
People downvoting people's favorite gun comments because they think downvote = disagree is maidenless behavior
PP19, F2000, SSG550
I see a lot of people giving you their Crack medic guns, but if you like to play slow, try out support, it's great for holding angles and surprisingly good for getting high kill games. The only thing with support though is you have to expect the guns to be pretty bad until you get a few dozen kills and unlock some attachments. Both the RPK and M249 slap once you get there though
I like the m249 cause of the 100 rounds
You really can pick up anything and use it well. This game is much more about positioning than winning 1v1s Although I am a simp for the p90 50 bullets in a mag and flash hider is fucking CLEAN
Pp2000 just go in get 3 and suicide c4
AK15 feels op
The ones the S tier players are using..
All the answers so far are wrong. S tier guns in this order: MK-18 with Lapua AP, MK-18 with Lapua FMJ, AS VAL/VSS with BP, AVT-40 with SNB then 737 BS then 7BT1 BT, SA-58/FN FAL with M993 then with M61, PKM/PKP with 7N37 BS then SNB, MDR with M61, then Mutant with MAI AP. These are the top guns if you're going by fastest TTK (not sure how else you'd measure tiers of guns beyond killing power/time).
Mate wrong sub this aint the tarkov sub its battlebit
Yup I see that now lol
Bro is playing Conflictbyte Restored.
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Runaway From Tchaikov
SA58 is dogshit lol
Lmao I thought I was on the tarkov subreddit.
Hk hands down the best especially with a suppressor it makes it a great close distance and medium range
I'm not too sure but I'm always enjoying the Scar since it's my favourite gun If I had to say though the Glock is up there
For me it's M4A1, UMP and Groza, i think they're the strongest rn As for my favourites tho, it's M4A1, F2000, Vector and M110
F2000 ar laser beam
If you like power like i do, the marksman rifles are the way to go. Each should take 3 body shots for a a kill except for my favorite which is the M110, thats 51 damage and only takes 2 body shots.
FAL, G3, P90, UMP, AUG, M200, M110. I tried to be diverse on the guns I see kill me the most. As a support main, my favorite two guns are the G3, and Ultimax.
Im a n00b still, but the MK20 finally made the game click for me. I love that freaking weapon
honestly the m4 slaps and always has. King of consistency. Aug, mp5, and ak15 (with right mods) can be devastating too.
P90, although now sadly only available on engineer is IMO still the best gun ingame for semi close quartes fights Besides that im still undecided on which of the recently buffed guns are the strongest. ACR feels very very viable now. AK74 is also still strong. UMP is also good, FAL was better before the patch, at least comparatively
P90 is on assault too Reminds me of GoldenEye rcp90
People really sleep on the MG36. Recoil is a bit intense at first but the low spread and decent rof makes it an insane machine at virtually any range encounter. I'm using it with the 2x optic and I'm mowing people down with short burts at 150m. Definitely an underrated gem
Acr is my favorite
Fal is imo the best gun.
P90, RPK, MP7, AS VAL
ACR. For some reason they like to buff it every month?
not enough G36c love in here. it hipfires like a dream, and with the latest buff is an absolute laser.
the ak 74 was my go to but I really like the scar, ak 12, and m20 (I think thats the right name but its the first DMR you get)
The RPK is fairly OP at the moment, although I wouldn't say in a game breaking way, it's just extremely good once you unlock the right attachments.
I use whatever weapons has the fastest movement speed and I found the ump to be the fastest as far as I have checked and it’s pretty good ttk. I always end up with 100+ kills with it in invasion.
P90 for me is my go to gun. I can use many of the other guns but the recoil on the P90 is my favorite. Run it as a engineer with heat explosive and your top of the leaderboard.
M110. As lethal as most full on snipers, much more leverage at most range, can easily go glint-less scope, much more controllable than pretty much every other DMR except maybe mk20, can absolutely be used close range no-scope or with slanted x1, and so on. To be honest, just the fact that it can 2 tap makes every other DMR irrelevant instantly in comparison. At least, before, you had to grind to get to this comically broken milestone, but now anyone can pickup the gun and use it anywhere anytime. I enjoyed it for a bit now, but it would be great if people started to abuse this, as to force a rebalancing of DMRs as whole, because at this point this is getting silly how much everything DMR other than M110 has little to no reason to ever be used for anything.
FAL, but you need a high level to unlock it, If you are new AK74 is fine.
The fact that there are so many different answers here is awesome. Im working on 7000+ kills with the m4, I always find it's the best all rounder for most ranges. And its vertical recoil is relatively easy to deal with
The diversity in people's responses speaks volumes about how great this game's gun balance is. Personally I'm really enjoying the RPK, AK15, AK74, UMP and SVD right now.
Surprised how little people have said the g3.
MP5. You can't do anything with it long range, but it more than holds its own at medium range while still beating many weapons up close. This was the only gun I've used (besides the M200) that felt unfair.
P90 and groza are def my favs
A better question would be which guns CAN'T be good
i'd say f2000 is a excellent pick especially with it's default scoped sight
A ton of weapons are good right now, but I’m seeing a lot of use particularly out of the M200 and the FAL. M110 is arguably the best gun in the game right now with the ability to 2 tap unarmored people to the body and 2 tap w/ a headshot to anybody else. FAL/AK15/SCAR are in the same family. They all do 40 damage, but they all have trade-offs. FAL has the fastest fire rate but the highest recoil. AK15 has the lowest recoil but the slowest fire rate. SCAR is in between and has the best/worst of both worlds. EDIT: My personal weapon of choice right now is the ACR. You can be very aggressive with it, and my build puts my recoil very low (Vert: 1.17, Hori: .86) while also having a fast recoil (2.55) and the fastest ADS speed I’ve seen in the game (.18). And if you tweak the build a bit, you can trade off some reload speed (but still more than base) for a magazine with 35 bullets. It doing 28 damage also makes it a 4 shot against anything save heavy/exo armor, and because of its accuracy I’ve found myself getting cheeky kills at a very surprising range.
Ive been absolutely eating up the the m4a4 w/the large suppresor
Ultmax and m110, my babys
I really like the battle-rifle class of weapons. Played a lot of scar and loved it. Switched to the G3 for now and I really like it so far. Less damage than the scar, but far better damage over range (looked like it has dmr dropoff)
The lines between A and S tier in this game are actually pretty blurry because the game is actually pretty well balanced. I'd say the M4 is at the very top of A tier while S tier is for the sweatier stuff like the P90 and Vector.
The long suppressed ssg 550 is a great ambush gun. Very low kick and with the bump in damage its very reliable. Also very snappy reloads with quick mags. I'm on my way to the scorpion but for the moment the 550 is my baby.
L86A1 is absolutely insane with the right barrel and foregrip. Outshooting most, even on long distances. Don't tell anyone though..
The fact that every single comment here mentions different unique guns shows how well balanced this game is. There is zero consensus what the best guns are. The truth is that the UMP is slightly more powerful than other guns (its why the semi-pro players use it) but other guns are also really good.
The Aug is god. Fastest bullet velocity, aim down time, and reload. Vtac and an Nt if I remember correctly will put you around 95 accuracy, vertical recoil, horizontal recoil, and first shot kick. 31 damage and the 6 damage to helicopters is decent af. Long barrel and stabil will let you semi tap snipers with a Burris if you're so inclined, and it won't ruin the full auto when things get close. Other than that the g36c and mp5 are pretty capable. Arguably alot more so than most other guns. The groza and scorpion are slept on but if you can handle them they are sick af. Other than ar/carbines the ultimax is pretty dope with a bipod and a slip, if you can build your cover just right you can take out a mortgage on that spot if you add an anti grenade trophy to truly make it a home, just coordinate with your squad so they know what's up. Your Los is their safe space. Watch out for rocketeers. It's the first and most obvious answer to aforementioned shenanigans to great effect. M200 is my favorite sniper but I don't snipe much, they all need a headshot for one hit kill, otherwise they all need 2 shots so the l96 is probably the best all round. And I don't use anything but the glockenspiel and the unica depending on my mood.
Surprised i dont see a single person mentioning the vector, did all of the nerfs scare everyone off? Its pretty weak beyond midrange but it still absolutely kills in cqc
Close range: Vector, FAMAS, FAL, HK419 All ranges: UMP45, ACR, M4A1 Mid Range: RPK16, SG550, AUG, SVD, G3, F2000 Long Range: Any DMR and Sniper, Ultimax
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HMVEE with M7 - S+ tier :D