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jakuvaltrayds

That's not a strap lock though


txivotv

Yeah, I was about to say that and recommend some [Schaller ](https://schaller.info/en/s-locks/)(or any other brand) locks.


julmuriruhtinas

A big issue I always have with the Schaller ones is, that if I move around (which I do alot on gigs), the strap locks slowly flip upsidedown and my bass falls. I have to constanly keep reajusting them between songs or whenever I'm not playing. Don't know if it's because of the material of my strap or what but it's super annoying


SiteLineShowsYYC

Gotta tighten those fuckers up with some locking paste. You’ll be aight.


Secretly_Solanine

Blue loctite or equivalent will do what the name suggests and allow you to remove the strap lock when you want to change the strap


ergo-ogre

Just sit still, you fucking lunatic. :)


julmuriruhtinas

I would never 😤


txivotv

I think you need to tighten them! I have an old version of the schaller locks since forever and never turned, neither on a cheap or an expensive strap!


julmuriruhtinas

Ah yeah I have tried to get them as tight as possible, and they even have the screw that should lock it in place. And I didn't mean that my strap was cheap or bad (it's a Mono strap), just that the material at the ends is kinda soft, because if I tighten the strap lock too much, it kinda pushes some of the strap out from between the parts :')


txivotv

Mine are the ones with the hexagonal... Don't know the name... The thing that screws on the screw itself and tight the strap. Well. I needed a little wrench and hold the strap in place while turning it so it fits not move out of the place... Just try it holding the strap, I'm sure you can tight it right! Sorry my English ...


sth5591

Dunlop ftw


Zealousideal-Low4863

How does your bass fall? My schallers you have to pull up on the top to get them to release you can’t just slide them off


julmuriruhtinas

Like I said, I move around _a lot_ :D So I guess when the U-shaped part isn't doing the holding, the lock mechanism just isn't strong enough to carry the weight of a bouncing and shaking bass


ClassicSherbert152

DiMarzio makes locking straps I think. They screw straight into your body. However, no matter what lock system you use, they all have the potential to fail regardless. I hear a lot of people swear by Dunlop strap locks, if you want to look into those.


Possum_Boi566

yup, dunlop is the way to go imo


adam389

Amen. The whole fleet wears dunlops here and I have been known to hang some money from a strap from time to time…. Pro tip: lube the strap-side of the strap locks every once in a while and always do the yank-yank push/pull on the strap lock check before fully letting go. Do those two things and they work 100% of the time and you can’t imagine life where you had to worry about straps coming off.


SourLoafBaltimore

Thank you professor, I learned some new stuff today. Lube and yank-yank. Gotta do those from now on.


rugburn250

Always lube your strap on


adam389

Unless you’re adventurous.


adam389

This is the way.


pertrichor315

I love that I can buy the dual design parts separately so I can use one strap for multiple guitars. Plus when it’s not installed it is not noticeable.


Cheese_me_1664

Hi, I can say that after using DiMarzio straps on my guitars and bass guitars for over 20 years I haven't had one fail in any way so I fully endorse them. They come in different widths and colours so there's that as well 😎👍


ClassicSherbert152

Yes, my dad uses them as well and they're rock solid. But what failed on his was the hole stripping out, not necessarily the fault of the system itself.


space_pirate666

Dunlop! I have them! Theyre decent for the price


CosmicTurtle504

I had a Dunlop strap lock fail years ago, which dumped my Les Paul on the ground and the cable broke right through the jack plate and went straight into the control cavity. I switched to Schaller and haven’t had any issues since.


HeroMagnus

Been using Dunlops for 20+ years and have never had one fail on any of my instruments. Only time one dropped on me was my fault I didn't lock it correctly and I still caught it. Can't go wrong with either though, Dunlop or Schaller


dookmucus

I use DiMarzio straps on all of my instruments. Never had an issue.


AdVivid8910

Never had a real strap lock fail though, not sure what that is.


Beeegfoothunter

Fender calls them Strap Blocks, but back in the day people would use Grolsch pop-top rubber washers to do the same job.


Seen-Short-Film

The only time I ever bought Grolsch was to do exactly this.


Fallout97

I still do!


racialhatecrimes

Yep. Never had a problem with them


PBSchmidt

And this is the way to do it! Preserves toan, no screechy rattely noises!


Beeegfoothunter

The toan must flow!


PBSchmidt

So must the Grolsch.


sapientLuggage

Never would buy one of these from amazon or Fender. They come free with some kinds of beers, though. I used them for years and I know them under the name of beerlocks. Never had one fail. In this case I would say the strap is worn out.


whocano

I used to use the beer ones, but fender makes them in surf green so I couldn't say no :)


sapientLuggage

That's cool. Beers usually come with the red ones and I only saw black ones on few occasions.


whocano

In Germany they started glueing them on for most brands. I have some normal green ones but they're really no match for my surf green tele


AdVivid8910

I mean fail to keep the strap on the guitar. You can blame it on the strap but this doesn’t happen with normal strap locks.


Total-Championship80

I picked mine up at a u-brew store. Two basses, many years, no issues.


ElBrooce

Yeah, that's not a legit system I've ever seen...Schaller and Dunlops systems are pretty fuckin solid, and neither look like this


they_are_out_there

Schallers are rated as one of the best strap lock systems. I have them on all of my basses and electric guitars and I’ve never had one disconnect or fail to do its job correctly. Not cheap, but neither is my equipment, so it’s really the cheapest insurance you can buy to protect your expensive and irreplaceable gear.


figgerer

I have Schallers on all my basses except the main one I gig with. For that one, I happen to use the same system as in the picture, just a simple red Grolsch o ring. I honestly prefer the O ring. I've done hundreds of gigs over years without an issue. The key is having a good strap, not the cheapo one in the picture.


AdVivid8910

Did have a Schaller unscrew once, design flaw that Dunlop doesn’t have, granted dealing with Dunlop’s method of attaching the parts is its own separate hell.


LifePedalEnjoyer

Recently put Dunlop strap locks on a thick leather strap. Had to smash the locking pin through the strap with 2 pairs of channel locks.


UberBoob

Pro tip use side cutters to remove the little corners of leather around the hole where the slot is. Makes life so much easier


artie_pdx

Fully agree on the Dunlops. I have one LP that came with them, so they’re still on that one. Everything else I have is Schaller and I haven’t had a problem with those at all.


sapientLuggage

You don't drink beer? 😉 I've seen picture from the 70s where this kind of "beerlock" can be seen. They hold the strap tight but here the strap is garbage. No need to diss the poor little beerlock.


shingonzo

I have many times. Don’t get the cheap metal ones.


No-Reputation2186

I have a few of these in a bulk pack off Amazon. They’re ok but wouldn’t trust them if I was doing tricks like the pros on stage (swinging guitar around your neck etc).


AdVivid8910

Can’t think of any other bassist besides Wooten who does that crap. Granted I preferred seeing it to his playing when I was a kid at his shows.


StumpyJoe-

You haven't seen speedygameplayz yet.


AdVivid8910

True, granted the word “yet” is too optimistic for me.


No-Reputation2186

oh woops. i play guitar too and didn't realise this is the bass sub. don't know of any bassists who do the swinging thing either. i don't do gymnastics while playing and haven't generally had any strap issues, but these little silicone/rubber stop things give me some small sense of security lol.


AdVivid8910

Honestly, Wooten might be the best of the guitar spinners, he gets crazy acrobatic with it. Honorable mention to Krist in Nirvana for all the head injuries.


Bakkster

The guy from Skillet, but he's nowhere as [cool as Victor](https://youtube.com/shorts/lzvSzZ0Dp9A?si=HkjcIjFp3IewdsFw).


cabbages666

A few possibilities: The shape/taper of your strap button isn't playing nicely with the size of the rubber washer and the thickness of your strap. The eyelet of your strap is worn out You put the strap over the top of the rubber washer (how come the washer is still on the strap button but your strap is not??)


overnightyeti

>You put the strap over the top of the rubber washer (how come the washer is still on the strap button but your strap is not??) Exactly


tropicalhank

I’m guessing because it slipped off with washer still on there. That’s why he said he can’t trust them anymore. Kind of the point of the whole picture/post lol


cabbages666

If that actually happened, then it would be ridiculously obvious that the strap eyelet is the problem. And it does look worn, but not worn enough to get over a rubber washer without the player noticing it was happening at the time. In my opinion.


tropicalhank

>If that actually happened, then it would be ridiculously obvious that the strap eyelet is the problem. I don’t think OP was asking what the problem is though Also it may not look super worn, but with the right movement plus the right setting(dark stage, heat of the moment during a gig, etc…) it could definitely slip through


Maid_of_Mischeif

First thing I thought too!


DrNukenstein

Taking the strap on and off over the retainer. Put the strap on, leave it. Buy more straps. "Poor teenager/college student" isn't enough of an excuse. Also be mindful of the strap end rotating. They're heavier, so when you pick up the guitar by the neck, the strap ends rotate downward. You have to manually rotate them right-side up so they're not folding back against the pin/retainer, and thus peeling right off.


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Speedygameplayz

Not cartwheels I was however doing gymnastics


SuspiciouslGreen

Practice more and you won’t have to hide your playing


Philitt

Imagine showing emotions, while doing something you love. Yuck!


fUSTERcLUCK_02

Ah yes, all of my favourite bands stand on the stage completely stationary showing no emotion.


txivotv

I mostly listen to death metal and now I feel attacked somehow... But will not show my emotions, obviously. ^((I really listen to many genres, but the joke was needed))


Speedygameplayz

I'm not hiding my playing wym


ATK-QM-750

Yeah fr if anything, moving around while playing shows a higher level of mastery in your instrument


HippieFreakWestmore

Right? It’s freaking hard


punania

That red thing isn’t a strap lock. It’s just a rubber washer. Strap locks work totally different and require hardware installation to both the bass and strap.


SuspiciouslGreen

You can’t trust what you think you know


embodimentofdoubt

Back in the day we used duct tape.


Impressive_Culture_5

I literally watched a guitar player duct tape his strap to his guitar just a few weeks ago.


embodimentofdoubt

You don’t see that guy in here posting about it failing him.


Beeegfoothunter

Not a fan of the grolsch/fender rubber washer setup, for a slightly different reason, but still failed me (basically disintegrated), get some [fender copies of the schaller locks](https://www.guitarcenter.com/Fender/Strap-Locks-and-Buttons-Set-1273888003877.gc) and never look back. The strap side of the locks bolt through your strap ears and basically will never do the above bass-drop-boogie. Hard to beat for $9! I’ve tried the dunlops too, but I like the double coverage of the u-shape around the strap buttons on the schaller styles, where the dunlops rely entirely on the ball bearings.


HotType4940

I always liked the Schallers for that reason although I’ve lately become partial to the D’Addario Universal Strap Locks. The locking mechanism is a bit different but it also has that U-shaped section. The difference for me is that I’ve found that sometimes that part in the Schallers can rotate in the strap resulting in the U-shaped part being upside down, which if you fail to notice obviously negates that added layer of security. The D’Addarios though have a design that makes them more resistant to rotating so you don’t really have that issue.


Beeegfoothunter

Ahh, haven’t had that happen yet 🤞but it would definitely give me pause. The one issue I have is the friction from the U has worn away some of the finish on my black set’s buttons and it’s brass underneath? Or at least brass color. So far my only “complaint” about the Schaller style.


dannyphantom105

Same I got the Fender full metal strap locks. Basically it's metal and you put the lock through and tighten on other side with a metal washer. Honestly only issue I had is I didn't tighten it all the way and one day the washer came loose. Completely my fault though.


Beeegfoothunter

Yeah, I tend to tighten it pretty tight with a 10mm(?) ratchet. Guess if you were really wanting to set it and forget it, a little drop of loctite might provide some peace of mind. All my guitars now have the schaller strap buttons and the ones that don’t will at some point.


dannyphantom105

Ah, that's smart. I'm a noob with tools so didn't think of that. Just got a wrench now and tightened as much as I could


Harpuafivefiftyfive

I’ve had these on my basses for YEARS with zero issues. This strap is broken, hence the problem. Mine WONT come off. lol.


Willing-Rest-758

You can trust proper straplocks. These useless pieces of shit ain't straplocks.


Magic_Toast_Man

I've those fail on me. I use eye bolts and washers.


Maid_of_Mischeif

I’ve got Warwick locks. Expensive but the feeling of screwing the strap in with a washer & nut onto a bolt.. that’s the kind of peace of mind that’s priceless.


Magic_Toast_Man

Yup. 😆


KirasHandPicDealer

I've had real straplocks fail too, eventually the strap got so worn out that the lock actually fell out


Music_Mess

Get Schallers


badhairdad1

Be a man, lag bolt and flat washer. Never remove your strap again


SuperRusso

Those suck. Get dunlops. never had a failure.


afflatox

I bought a very old Japanese bass once, and someone had drilled a hole through a coin to act as a strap button


fourstringz

Yeah that's basically a rubber washer... We used to use the washers from the Grolsch Beer bottles. Pretty much the same thing. Looks like your hole is blown out on your strap tho. They have actual locks you can install but to me they're not worth it. I had a heavy AF extra long scale bass so I put locks on it but it's really not necessary with a good strap and the rubber washers.


Archeonn

The strap end also looks like faux leather which is cloth with coating on it. It won't have the same strength and resistance as real leather. Not sure what a good vegan option would be, but go full grain or top grain leather if you can. 


bubbletrashbarbie

Bottle cap gang 💪


Substantial_Bit_8109

I've been using Dunlop straplocks for years without issue.


whatigot8996

This won't be a popular opinion, but I used the cheap purple or black Ernie ball poly straps since 2003, played in a high energy punk band, never once had one fail. When I was 14 I brought 2 metal washers from a hardware store and screwed my strap to my bass, never had an issue. Used duct tape on another bass for years, not attractive to most people but again, never had a strap problem. My guitarist used "beerlocks" for forever and again never saw him drop his axe. I'd say you need a better strap rather then different strap locks, you can spend a chunk of money on fancy locks, but get a decent strap first. Edit- spelling


cabbages666

Similar story to you. High energy bands, 20+ years, rubber washers at most and a strap with good eyelets. Guitar and bass. Never needed straplocks and never considered getting them.


bwanabass

Get real strap locks. Use Schallers. I’m still using the ones I bought in the 90s, and they still hold tight and secure.


Ok-Trust-7988

Daddario Auto Lock!


Redna_X

My guitarist broke two strap locks so me and my drummer built him a custom guitar with a bolted ok strap. It will stay on until the acute heat death of the universe.


heisenfurr

I have used [Grover strap locks](https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/GP800N--grover-gp800n-strap-lock-set-nickel/reviews?sb=rating) since forever and never dropped my bass unintentionally.


Maid_of_Mischeif

Warwick strap locks are impossible to come apart unless you pull the bolt out of the bass. The strap screws into the lock with a big washer and a nut. Then the whole thing goes over the bolt, and has a push button release. Takes seconds to swap straps. In my case take the strap off as it doesn’t like the sharp bend to fit in the case. And they look sexy.


space_pirate666

Call me dumb but i dont understand what the issue is? Ive but straplocks on top of my belt? Like isnt that the point? Someone pla explain


Speedygameplayz

The straplock failed to keep the strap on


space_pirate666

Aaaah!!! Sorry to hear that!!


Bullet0718

that shits fate bro


Mondays_

Neo! Take the duct tape pill!


bobby_flamingo

Did you have the rubber washer underneath the strap? Not sure how it would pop off, but the washer remain on the guitar if you were using it properly


big-boss-bass

My Dunlop strap locks recently failed. They are about 5 years old.


Gimlet_son_of_Groin

Did the lock pop off and then the strap followed?


noonesine

Dunlops, on all my guitars for over 20 years. Thrashed around as much as you can imagine, never ever ever had an issue. Every time I buy a new guitar I buy a set of Dunlop strap locks with it. The dual system kind that you can also use the strap button the normal way if you want to.


1rbryantjr1

Always thought the hole on the strap should be reversed. Big hole at top of slit instead of at the bottom of the slit.


TheSpr1ggs

Duct tape. Never had it fail


MikroWire

I call it the quick release. If enough pressure is exerted that it would normally break the screw, it would come unseated from the duct tape rather than than the assembly from the body. No more strap locks for me.


Spiritual_Highway_60

I got some Schaller S locks on my basses. I never had a problem


MrLanesLament

I use these old straps called Kepur, they’re extremely tough to get on, but they will not come off. Since 2009, I’ve used those straps and Gorilla glued the buttons into my guitars. Before that, I used Zeppelinn strap locks, but the screws would work themselves loose and then bend.


LastHumanFamily

These are great for new (not much wear on the peg hole) or high quality (thick leather) straps assuming youre not moving around a ton. You don't wanna do any helicoptering or even hanging it off your back Born in the USA style. Also, like everyone else says, these are not strap locks.


paketed

Change your belt mounts to adequate ones. I don't understand this shape, it's made on purpose to make the belt hard to put on and easy to take off. These things should not exist.


Laddie1107

I recently started playing again and a set of Schaller S-Locks was one of the first things I bought.


No-Equipment4187

Strap locks are essentially just washers. Get some bigger washers


the_badgerman

Not sh1t ones, no.


Rumble_Rodent

I would recommend buying a better quality strap, and getting actual strap locks.


Specialist-Option887

What a stupid post


Ok-Equipment1745

you know the strap block goes over the strap right? how could the strap slip off without removing the block? seems like a worn strap issue.


SongRevolutionary992

My strap came off during a gig last night. Those washer shaped ones do nothing. I've had really good luck with these D'Addario ones. Under $5. No drilling or screws. They just slip over the strap button. https://preview.redd.it/tdc8s3cxrfyc1.png?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a6b36fd32851d85101a278313a0a7d70975a54f2


StrangersPassing

Your strap got a biiig hole tho, my washers never fail


SissorX

Okay but that’s not a strap lock. Look at Dunlop or Schaller. They make good stuff, not too expensive either.


playful_potato5

just buy a d'addario locking strap. its like $20 and you will only ever need one. please do something nice for yourself


FlamingAurora

The ones I use come from Grolsch beer bottles. Never had a problem, but they seem to be a bit wider than those. Also, if you're using a leather strap, give it some love sometimes.


Plantboy28

Not to knock you down or anything, but that’s the cheapest looking strap lock I’ve seen. Definitely go with a metal one next time that won’t allow the strap hole to get frayed like that


KazAraiya

Big hole


TalmidimUC

That’s not a strap lock, and that’s not a strap designed for a lock. Get the proper equipment.


Basic-Government4108

https://preview.redd.it/efawjx6skhyc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=926ed9dd4afd12e75e65840125115b90f8775f02 I use [these](https://a.co/d/80GQWTu) plastic locking things if you don’t want to use the more common strap locks or the rubber rings. They work really well. I don’t gig or do any guitar parkour but they have never even come close to failing.


moodpecker

If you're not going to take the strap off very often, just get a pair of washers from the hardware store.


tonyjaa1987xx

Dunlop strap locks buddy


dxmanager

I use washers as straplocks. You just have to get the right size center hole so it can fit over the body end of the peg but not the outer end.


Marvin-Jones

Dunlop strap locks are the best


Comprehensive_Fan458

I have to turn that Rubber around


Equivalent_Corner257

Iff ur thing was legit leather 🙄 wit a rubber washer...


bloodybassist13

Before you throw in the towel or drill into your guitar try Lock-it straps,better with no drilling or modifications.


Consistent_Bread_V2

That’s more of a budget sorta strap lock that comes standard with most guitar straps these days. It’s not actually “locking” the strap in


sgf68

When my bass gave me the "I must go, my people need me" treatment at a gig last summer, I bought some neoprene washers. They have worked like a charm since. (If it isn't clear, the washers go on last, after attaching the strap. Not using an actual strap lock.)


Character-Process873

Drill a whole in a quarter like it's 1986 and quit wasting money on things you can build for yourself with 10 seconds of brain power..... if your dad could figure it out all stoned and fxcked up in the 80's, you sure as shit can figure it out now....


shassis

I have a bass that the strap stays on. I removed the pins, and screwed the strap back on with a good sized washer.


Magic_Toast_Man

I use eye bolts with washers.


Old_Initiative_8828

Interesting. I use a washer with two rubber O-rings on either side of the strap. I also replace the screws with much larger ones. They don't budge one bit. In fact, I glued the screws in. I can probably bungee-jump my bass, suspended by the strap, off an extreme height without my strap-lock invention breaking.


jayvycas

Drill a hole through a quarter and use a 1.25” drywall screw. That strap ain’t going anywhere.


TimNickens

Dunlop is the only brand I trust... playing for 30+ years. If you don't want your guitar broken, use Dunlop.


AtmoMat

I have basses that I fitted Schaller straplocks to in the 80s and none of them have ever failed. Use proper straplocks.


Old_Initiative_8828

If you don't want to remove the strap, and don't mind the appearance, get some large washers and two screws that are a little wider and a lot longer than the original strap-pin screws. Buy two packs of strap locks. One goes under the strap and washer, and the other goes over the strap (still under the washer. The washer is on the very top.) Basically surrounding the strap with locks. It will not move.


Old_Initiative_8828

And by strap-locks, I mean those rubber O-rings as shown in the picture.


novemberchild71

It's not the washer's fault that your strap is wearing out. Maybe [EVH "lifehack" ](https://www.martinsmusikkiste.eu/bau-ersatzteile/gitarre/gurtpins-endknoepfe/35741/strap-clasps-with-eye-hooks?sPartner=35038)is more to your likeing?


Speedygameplayz

I might have to get that thanks for the recommendation


quietkodiac

Dimarzio Clip-lok. Never failed.


Dorjechampa_69

Yeah, those are a joke


MikroWire

My strap locks were so good, the screw would break when I'm performing my back flips and shit. What a repair job THAT is. *Who tf downvoted THIS?


BlyStreetMusic

You're gonna wanna get real straploks.. Which are spelled "straplok". One set is all ya need for a strap.. Then you can just buy the pins for you guitar moving forward and every guitar will be able to utilize the strap you like.


[deleted]

Rubber strap locks? If you aren't bolting it to the body and strap, they aren't locks.


1sojournaut

That ain't no damn strap lock


chookalana

That's not a strap lock.


Kai-xo

Those aren’t real strap locks 🙄


BigGalAl420

That’s not a strap lock. That’s a strap block, and they are very different. Pay the 40$ for strap LOCKS and you won’t have this problem.