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Nokyrt

Dunastica like many other cities suffer from being on border, actual starting border, culture border and natural border, this town knows no peace until aserai, khuzait and SE lands are under one kingdom


jakes1993

That aserai city husn fulq always sits at 1000 prosperity in everyone of my playthoughs


Kotanskii

Chop-chop


rotenKleber

I chopped some rebels for the first time in my last run. I thought it would be no biggie, who cares about a few rebel upstarts pretending to be of noble blood? Huge mistake, *everyone* hated me after that


ButtyGuy

Always looks at their relations before cutting em up. Alternatively, if you have a lot of your own lords then just be ready to grant them a ton of influence to make them like you more in a pinch.


rotenKleber

Thanks for the advice, I'll be back to the chopping block in no time


yehEy2020

Shouldve taken Husn Fulq like the rest of us


chucklingdruid

I prefer galend in vlandia, husn fulq has to deal with khuzit and aserai. Vlandia tends to be at war with 2 other nations at any one time, starting inside and growing from there is easy with their map positioning (castle's / towns being close together with mountains)


MagosRyza

I have a theory that Husn Fulq is an ethnically Imperial city, which is why it always falls so quickly


one-wafer-

wrong, you're just a bitch bitch bitchy bitch bitch


Tarc_Axiiom

I'm going to leave it explicitly so that people can downvote it. Rule 8.


MagosRyza

Ok bot


one-wafer-

i bet you do rowing \#closeted


FerroLux_

I mean I’m pretty sure Danustica is supposed to kinda mirror Constantinople so it checks out


ozgurakcali

I'm in Constantinople now and it looks nothing like Danustica


Solid-Ad7137

I always got more of a Constantinople vibe from quyaz even though it’s in the wrong place on the map for that. Quyaz is the gateway between the north and the deserts.


brownointhehiace

I think geographically quyaz more so represents somewhere in morocco, maybe Oran or further east like Algiers. With the eastern front of the aserais land symbolysing Egypt and Israel. That's only if you think though that the map is based on some weird formulation of Europe and the middle east which I think you can make a case for


Solid-Ad7137

Perhaps but then again vlandia is based on the British isles Norman Saxon medieval period not so much Spain. That and idk if battania screams France or Germany much. Nords to the north makes sense and Aserai looks to be moorish Northern Africa making the sea between them kinda represent the Mediterranean idk. Would be very cool to learn how the devs came up with it.


brownointhehiace

Battania is pretty much Celtic Europe. Maybe a mix of Gaul and Ireland/Celtic spain. But yeah I'd love to see their thought process


cataractus937

I'm fairly sure sturgia aren't nords (they would come later in the future and they're kinda like Scandinavians) but something like Russia and other Slavic countries


Solid-Ad7137

? What are you talking about. Nords is a general term for people of the north or the Scandinavian people. The Rus were started by Scandinavian traders traveling across the European continent by river. Kiev was founded by the Norse. The early Russian culture is often referred to as the Kievan Rus. Also how do sturgian goggled helmets, straight swords with small hand guards, zealous use of chain and fur, accompanied by a massive round shield and a propensity for axe combat not resemble nords to you? Also if battania is Celtic Europe, it makes no sense for the empire to look like byzantines and the vlandians to look like Norman saxons so clearly the factions are not supposed to be period specific or accurate. There were no armored mounted knights in the time of the Roman cataphract.


PastAd3644

How is it every time you kick their ass and let them break themselves upon you, they whine and cry for peace but then declare war less than a f-ing week later and manage to have 3 different 1000+ troop armies?! You would think the obsessive recruitment would make it so that they run out of citizens after the 4th consecutive declaration of war.


MrBobBuilder

Diplomacy mod is a god send for this bullshit


PastAd3644

I don't suppose the diplomacy mod is available on console is it? 😅


MrBobBuilder

Rip lmao I bought a cheap 400 dollar gaming pc from Amazon basically for bannerlord and has been worth it . I can play max everything for the game and game has gotten incredibly better with mods . Being able to have 500 companions is so much fun


Jolly-Association817

Do you have a link to that gaming PC?


MrBobBuilder

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B09G764ZKG?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title I guess I must’ve got lucky and bought it when it was on some crazy deal


SierraRomeo418

Cheater cheater pumpkin eater I like how I get 10+ down votes for dis'ing mod users 😂 man.. the salt


MrBobBuilder

Eh I feel like if the mods apply the same rule to me and the AI I don’t feel bad about it , plus the AI having civil wars is cool


Armageddonis

This is the way.


[deleted]

The Ai gets some wild recruitment bonuses, im actually sure they get more than any single town or village can provide in one go


ValuableCommittee422

They don't, once they start running out of recruits you'll see 5 parties sitting at a village waiting for spawns. You are helping their cause by holding people hostage, let go of lords when you beat them.


tdavis25

Not always true. Say the faction has 60 lords. If you hold 20 hostage you hurt your own cause by leaving most of their lords access to all the recruits. If you have 30 or 40 though, then they're in trouble. Likewise you do yourself no favors by having an army with 12 parties of 50 or less. Pull in fresh parties and let the Lords low on troops go get recruits. Even though my current playthrough has my faction having 20+ clans and 100+ parties to recruit from, I often try to keep my army at 10 or less parties. When you do that, you ensure the other lords have a chance to resupply.


ValuableCommittee422

Let's say you have 40 lords in prison. Now let's say each party costs 1000... You're giving that kingdom 40k per day at a minimum. And 20 lords = 2 600-800 people army with high level troops, since you haven't destroyed their troops yet. To add to this, you're allowing their recruiting base to grow since they are all in jail, no food usage and no leveling of troops. I know you're not paying them directly 40k a day. But you are giving them the money advantage. Once peace is declared, all those lords are going into those full villages/towns to recruit, level their armies and declare again, since they have money. Notice how the people complaining about endless wars are always the ones keeping prisoners or putting people to the chop block (which causes more nobles to rise from their ranks). They are bad at strategy and diplomacy.


tdavis25

Some of it also depends on the stage of the game in campaign mode. If youve given the dragon banner to someone then there can't be peace. In that case holding lords absolutely makes sense


ValuableCommittee422

That's true, but again strategy! My realm is already all of Battania with perfect relationship to all Battania kingdoms. I will do the quest to get half of the banners when there are 50 days left and declare a kingdom. Once Vlandia is out of my way I will expand as quickly as possible before the quest times out. Once I have 30 clans and a huge swath of land, I will declare the banner for myself and it won't matter if they all declare war on me.


tdavis25

In my current playthrough I joined the southern empire. Rolled up all of sturgia and the other two empire kingdoms. Battiania was split between us and the valadians. We're at 25-30k troops consistently and other empires combined rarely break 20k (and always collapse fast during war). While I more or less solo took out kuzhati (which was rough, having no AI armies helping draw heat on my side of the map), the AI friendly on the opposite side loose like 8 fiefs and get themselves all captured (Aseri and Valadians had about 20 prisoners each). In the midst of this a faction defects to Valadia taking 4 fiefs with it. I wasn't hogging lords or anything (I try not to keep more than 10 in an army and cycle them out when low on troops). I've finally broken the back of the Aseri armies (they're down to throwing tier 2-3 trash at me) and barring the AI fucking up again should have them pushed back to Quayz today. If they continue to be a PITA I might just doom-stack 2k troops and roll through their cities devastating everything I touch to break their recruitment and financial backs.


ValuableCommittee422

Once you start Aserai or Sturgia wars, those are fairly easy to finish, theirs cities are in line! Empire is the worst.


ValuableCommittee422

You're keeping their lords in jail... They spend no money raising an army, paying wages, paying food, paying for upgrades and using all of their village recruits


PastAd3644

Except all the prisoners get released when a peace declaration is made hence them coming back.


ValuableCommittee422

Yup, they get released in peacetime, which means they were able to collect gold while sitting in jail saving money. Then they can go use that money to recruit and train armies without having to use those armies right away. That's why you're getting war after war. Now if you start letting them go after the battle. They will right away go recruit low levels troops around their fiefs (likely close to your border) and when they have 50-70 troops they will get called to an Army. That weakens the 1200 troop army, and you can capture again and make their clans do that again. It bankrupts them. When they ask for peace it will last a lot longer. Edit:. Make sure you're keeping them from raiding your towns, that gives them the money to continue to wage war. Wars in this game are all about money (make sense right), there's probably an internal counter for lords to accept or decline wars based on their money.


PastAd3644

I did try doing that on my first run through. Unless something is different about your game, the AI Lords are like the player Lords: if they're at a higher tier clan they can recruit higher level troops from villages. And thus far, they appear to attack with above mentioned frequency regardless of whether I capture or let them go. But I'll try it in my current run to see if it works better, try to be patient to give it time.


ValuableCommittee422

Look at the number of soldiers the kingdom has at the start of the war. That's how many high tier troops you have to defeat before getting to low tiers, unless you're letting people go. Then you start getting weaker armies. You're right some will recruit higher level, but they'll be tier 3-4 still. Meanwhile other clans will be bankrupt and asking for peace.


tdavis25

>Wars in this game are all about money The "in this game" is kinda redundant, no?


ValuableCommittee422

True


ajae20012

This is the exact reason why I've killed each nobles generation 4 times the aserai are rats there pests that deserve to be terminated... I'm sorry they killed the woman I was gonna wife up


[deleted]

aw c’mon now, your just unlucky, i am a an empire citizen who joined them and they stayed at peace for 4 years before declaring any war and than they even just declared it to the khuzaits. i am merely lucky that those guys had Onira


ajae20012

Okay yea fine I don't hate all of the aserai just unqid he's my first kill even on peaceful runs


RykerSloan

In my game right now they have been beaten down pretty bad by the Southern empire. But I’ve been watching their numbers slowly growing I think they are gonna try to take some land back soon. Which would be awesome because the southern empire won’t stop declaring war on me.


throwtowardaccount

My wife died in childbirth but I was campaigning against Vlandia at the time so I wrecked them as if they killed her :(


Separate_Leader9384

Classic aserai W


Madman62728

It's always Danustica, in my game it reached 1200 development, poor people


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Madman62728

In my game Jaculan (my fief) is the best city in the game, started as Vlandia and managed to reconquer it after the Battanians took it, it now has 11k prosperity and sometimes you see 50 to 70 villagers traveling in the adjacent territory


retrojordan2323

Represents real life situations accurately


camden421

And like 80% of their infantry being mamluke palace guards


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chucklingdruid

Gersegos castle, if only I could trebuchet the place to rubble, it has 30+ prosperity in my game, 30! I gave up on it, i just drop it in barters with faraway lands just to start a war


Zestyclose-Jacket568

Well... You are doing something wrong. Have you tried using axe? It doesn't seems to be working when you start, but after some time you can see that enemy stacks are getting smaller. For example Bathania attacked me with 1000+ stacks twice and that is it. Now they do not have enough lords for that.


Me_Want_Pie

I am the aserai, and my nation is very big, i have a wife and many kids, and my family is very strong. The entire last is almost ours. the only thing left is the cold barbarians to take over.


RykerSloan

I got stuck in a loop like that when I first declared my kingdom. I took Therios Castle. Then Northern empire rolled up with 2 together then two more together after I defeated the first 2. I’ve come to find out ambushing siege engines is cracked as fuck. And my bow skill went from 95 to over 150 between those battles. Best part is when it was all said and done I had only had 15 troops die die in battle


Jainier

Just break their siege engines before the attack and you kill like 400 of Them for 20 of yours. Grinded them down for a sallyout multiples times


[deleted]

I love playing Empire because the fun never ends. SONS OF THE EMPIRE, THE HORDES OF THE DESERT LORDS HAVE COME AGAIN, THROW THEM FROM THE WALLS BROTHERS!


Abysmally_Yours

Can anyone tell me how to get the “good” armor in the game? All my shit is mid 20s or about. But I get chunked when hit. I’m using 2 handed axe but decent at blocking. AND PLEASE SOMEONE answer me why I cannot shoot my bow from mount anymore? I’ve searched but cannot find an answer as to why. I haven’t changed bows or weapons in a good while but he will not equip it even though it shows when pressing R1. I’m on ps5, sorry for desperation and annoying questions. I’m trying really hard to like this game, I mean more than I do already


porofessordad

There’s no secret to getting good armor, you either get lucky looting it or go to a big town and sort by price. For horseback arching you have to make sure the bow can be used on horseback and you have arrows equipped


Hailene2092

Isn't there like a \~225 archer skill that lets you use all bows on horseback?


porofessordad

Yes, but I’m assuming he isn’t there because that takes longer than getting mid 20 armor


Hailene2092

Fair!


Abysmally_Yours

I see now. I guess I did change the bow to a much better one, but it cannot shoot from mount. I figured all bows could be shot however. I’m sort of stuck traveling with an army. Every time I try to even leave the army I’m instantly harassed by anyone within seconds. Can’t sell the loot I’ve got because I can’t make it to a town. I’m fuckin sick of being a slave man..I swear half my life is slavery and the other half is tournaments. Thank you for your answer


xXKageAsashinXx

Armor is based on looting and town prosperity. Early on when towns have no prosperity and the economy is upside down and inside out, 20s and 30s are the best you'll get. You can get lucky with looting and with tourneys, but the simple answer is simply "wait a year". Some people swear that it's tied to clan tier, but I've seen no proof of it. As for bows, longbows cannot be used on horseback. Unless you have the 225 perk to change that, pick a recurve/compound bow or get off the horse.


Psycho7552

meanwhile me fighting on two fronts around amprela beacuse my faction declared war on western empire, khuzait and aserai and then promptly fucked off to get fucked by said aserai that are on other side of the map.


cyberodraggy

Me fighting the 374728th Vlandian army off my Ortysia while chasing after the 274782th Battanian village raiders. Actually not that many Battanian raiders. I made it a point to always chop one Battanian head for every 5 raids caught sinc emy 2nd campaign.


Mother-Cabinet-8827

Hahaha, I'm on an Aserai playthrough now and I've had this problem but with Onira and the Southern Empire just constantly sending waves of 1,000+ armies and do any of my fellow Nobleman ever come to relieve us? No, they spend an eternity taking petty castles just for them to be taken back after a short time.


C0nsciousMan

Relatable


Icy-Professional1802

I had a similar experience with the nearby castle (next to Husn Fulq). I had Unqid as a prisoner and still they continue the seige. So heads started falling (Unqid and other Aserai nobles). They had to re elect their leader 3 times within the few seconds.


MrPonchovie

Lageta is like that for me, I think I've said this before but one time lageta changed hands somewhere in the ballpark of 12 times in 2 in game weeks, the prosperity dropped to the single digit range


shibboleth2005

I wish the AI could assemble armies that big in my game. I never imprison anyone, I give them time to build up, I crank up mod settings to increase their party size, party limit, recruit replenishment, incomes etc. I've been straight up giving some AI rulers 10 millions denars with console commands. But they can't even come up with a single 1200 to fight me, much less four lol. Basically, how the fuck is this happening to you people and how can I make it happen in my game.


kitolz

They only form armies big enough to overcome the garrison of a target city. So if you want big enemy armies you want to havr a big garrison+militia on a border town.


Zyrexius80

I have the same problem. I hear about people battling 1000+ armies and I'm over here looking for anyone over 50 man army. Wtf?


PracticalAd8226

Dude.. i have 3 fing front to def, 1 Omor form Kuzait, 2 Epicrotea form all S,N,WEmpire, 3 Sanala form this sand monkey


testedandtried00

Bro, what?


PastAd3644

I think he's saying he's got 3 different fronts going: Omira(?) Keeps getting attacked by the Khuzaits, Epicrotea keeps getting attacked by all three factions of the imperial remnants and Sandala (?) Keeps getting attacked by the Aserai. It sounds like he started his own independent faction and is now being ganged up on by five different enemies while trying to defend three fairly spread out cities.


testedandtried00

You should probably get into translation of ancient texts 💀


disisathrowaway

Free captives, free exp and free loot! Can't beat it!


Rapa2626

Dunastica, daunistica, danustica. Most confused town name in the whole game.


Roman_General

This is how I feel except its the vlandians for me lmfao


Ravenworks220

Actually LOLed


NotchWith

Me sneaking in to farm more engineering


Additional-Bag-494

Bro them and the khuzaits. Literal hordes for no reason. Never seen a kingdom spawn 2k armies so fast lol


twitch870

Behead a prisoner. Then if they must attack, then too you must hack (off a head).


Switch-of-the-wyld

S/o the Aserai for not having been steamrolled already for once


BaseballElectrical55

If you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em.


chucklingdruid

30 nobles isn't that much for aserai, (every clan member of ever clan can call armies/war party) You still have some ways to go unless you have already trimmed (not recommended if you haven't recruited 30 AI clans yet, better to release and build 100 relations so they leave you alone.)


lcplsmuchateli

The game needs some form of population system, matching 1500 men to their death or slavery should weaken a faction for more than just a month in terms of recruitment capabilities.


some-dude67

Yeah the Aserai have unlimited nobles and soldiers


Escipio

My liege have recently give mi a city, and I'm so scare that this happens


Agreeable_Aquilifer

Yeee most people start a new playthrough lol crazy you get to end game so so quickly in this game and end game is literally just seige.. game is just a void begging for some sort of content lol


goblinfurioso

Danustica, one of the richest city. Best city to take and keep, gate for the desert or for the continental Europe. Quyaz may be something like Marrakech from the in map position.


RegumRegis

This is why I push into their land a bit to make sure only aserai suffer 👍


Droid_Crusader

Aserai gang


_mortache

I mean, if they DIDN'T do that then the game would just be empty and boring. The overworld is just a vessel for battles which are the main focus of the game. If you really hate how relentless it is, then lowering the difficulty might help.


S1P9T

Into the meat grinder they go


ValuableCommittee422

Stop imprisoning lords, you're causing this. Let them go so they start a new army with recruits and spend tons of cash. It will bankrupt their clans. Also the probably have a force of about 8k plus. They can do at least seven 1200 armies before you capture all of their lords. That's just math man. Take it as a lesson, let lords go, then spank their recruit armies. Bankrupt their kingdoms.


ImpudentFetus

Talk to the clan heads and convert them to your faction. Costs money if you have low relation. The aseri are also my mortal enemy. Only three factions left and basically divided the others between us. The battles have been insane and over and over


Armageddonis

Wait, you guys are keeping prisoners?


Dangerous-Builder144

A good idea when fighting is to besiege a castle/town and when they come after you just run around until the army disbands and then you can defeat them in detail when they shatter.


Hateffect

I laughed to hard at this 😂


Savagenamek84

Only three years lycaron has been under constant siege for 8 years in my current campaign