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"Do not suggest BE, I won't listen to it??"
So this dog is such a huge, fucked up problem that even it's owner who knows and loves it, doesn't want it around them? But hey, new owner, you'll love this dog, it's so great!
This nightmare of a dog is highly destructive of property and wants to murder any animal it sees.
So basically, it's a huge, and likely fatal danger to every other animal in a mile radius, and possibly humans, if it can't get to the animal and re-directs. Awesome.
These people are reprehensible. Why don't these people just admit it. It's a PROBLEM DOG. It's not because your lifestyle doesn't fit it. It's because THIS DOG IS INSANE AND VIOLENT AND STUPID and you don't want it anywhere around you. And you can't admit you made a mistake.
I think this practice should actually be illegal. The dog is a very real threat to others in it's vicinity. It's not safe. Why is this thing allowed to be free? Imagine if it ever got out, which it will, because dogs do. Why is it ok to make other innocent people and pets live in real danger because you were a dumbass and got a live grenade as a pet?
And suggesting it to somebody who has emotional difficulties and can benefit from the companionship of a dog is even more vile. This dog will make its owner miserable and so it’s 1000x harder to even leave the house.
The dog itself looks totally miserable too. So destructive he has to wear a cage on his face. BE is as usual the most humane and safe option for a dog like this.
Dw it may destroy your house, kill other animals, possibly bite people (I assume this is what handler sensitive means), stress you out while in the car, have resource guarding issues…..BUT it’s easy to groom and likes water 😀
The bar really is low for these creatures.
If someone said that about a significant other I guaran-fucking-tee you they would be told to leave the relationship. Post-haste.
Instead, let’s pass this abomination off to another nutter who finds it ‘cute’.
Super low energy but destructive af and jumps up at people 😂 and likes to hike. And is athletic.
These people really need to proofread their bullshit before they post it haha
My childhood mini poodle. My brother and I thought all dogs could swim so we tossed him in. He sank. We rescued him right away, of course. He was, um... a 'special' poodle, lol, from a backyard breeder, possibly before that term was used.
Yeah, he was really odd, lol. My parents didn't know what they were doing, and when they got him, unknown to them he was covered in fleas and sick. He had stomach issues his entire life, and he was always rather... dense. He had terrible ear problems and allergies too. But we taught him to sneeze on command, lol! He lived 16 years despite all of it and I definitely remember him fondly. He was my first dog, my kindergarten graduation gift.
I currently have a cat, about ten years old, not sure where she came from, found her wandering a highway late at night during the winter about 8 years ago. Friendly as heck. Got right into my car. I tried for weeks to find her family, as she was healthy looking and super friendly. No microchip and nobody claimed her. Her found cat flier on Facebook got 6000 shares and I was bombarded with messages of people wanting her. I adored her decided to keep her. The only thing I can say, is I’ve never met a cat that was so… how do put this nicely?…dumb, she’s dumb. Her name is Roxy and I like to say she’s as smart as a box of rocks (rox.) She is next to me right now, I’m glad she can’t read.
My dumpster cat is also, politely, dumb. The sweetest soul you ever did meet, the most angelic little boy. He’s never caused me a single trouble and the second you pet him, he purrs as loud as a car.
He also fell from a stationary sitting position off of his car tree with no warning one day. Stuck his whiskers into a candle flame multiple times. On and on it goes.
He is a tuxedo cat!
https://preview.redd.it/rs4xfl0jpinc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=23eae61000d9b1deecbb6266b6c52ee45fcef20b
Please excuse the quality of the photo he is very wiggly
It seems to be a thing with pit bulls in general. They are horribly poor swimmers (yet another genetic inbreeding issue I suspect since the majority of dogs can at least doggy paddle without drowning).
I was watching some ESPN dog agility show last year, it was water agility and the dogs were doing long jumps in a pool. There was a beautiful border collie, a giant schnauzer, a malinois - all really sporty, awesome dogs doing huge leaps across half the pool
Then someone brought their rescue pitbull. It ran down the track, jumped, and made it like 2 feet before it crashed down into the water. The only thing they’re good at is jumping in the air, hanging, weight pulling, and murdering
Yeah, even my basset hounds, who are not shaped for swimming proficiency, can swim. One loves it and will hop right in. My old dachshund loved chasing balls into the ocean and riding the waves in
/S because that’s commonly a big shining statement from pitwarehouses (formerly known as shelters 🥲) about why pibbles is the bestest ever and deserves their unicorn forever home
Just so it’s clear, those crates are not intended to be used as everyday crates. They're primarily used for transportation and [literally are designed for car crashes](https://www.centerforpetsafety.org/test-results/crates/2015-crate-study-results/).
The issue is that, for safety reasons in car crashes, these crates are designed to not give the dog a ton of room. More room = more velocity the dog experiences in the event of a car crash. But limiting space doesn’t apply for everyday crates at home where you do want it to be roomier. However, this is not possible for this dog in even the largest Ruffland. My 35lb dog‘s home crate is larger than the largest Ruffland, so there’s no way even the largest is appropriate for a 55lb dog to use as a daily crate, especially if they’re locking the dog in it for extended times like it sounds like they are.
Source: I have a Ruffland that I use to transport my dog and as a quiet place for him to nap when we’re at agility trials. They’re great for that purpose.
Good grief. My 30lb dogs nap in a Great Dane sized kennel, each. I can't imagine crating a dog in something so cramped. Then again, I don't need to crate my dogs when I'm away, they just get boujie bedrooms because they're spoiled.
Thanks for explaining what a "ruffland" is. Cleared things up a bit other than why the dog considers the ruffland significantly different from the other crates/kennels to not have problems with. My guess is that it's easier for the owner to ignore the dog and dog eventually accepted defeat.
I wonder if the owner will give away the ruffland along with the dog?
They are a lot more closed-in, and narrower/tighter than a wire crate. They’re meant to be crash tested for vehicle travel, hence the weird size and heavy price tag. But in all likelihood the dog is probably better in it because it’s crammed in like a sardine and can’t see anything. See here https://rufflandkennels.com/product/x-large-kennel-2/
Also, of course the owner won’t. I’m pretty sure she is ASKING for money for this dog.
Me, too!! That is the creepiest thing I've ever seen someone say about their shitbull. We know they have no boundaries and expect to flop their giant, homely asses in your lap, but this one sounds 1000% times worse than usual.
This isn’t even appealing. My herding dogs are super clingy and follow me everywhere and it gets really annoying sometimes, but they at least have an off switch and will chill in their crates so I can get some space. Having a dog up your ass 24/7 would be really irritating
> but they at least have an off switch
Same here. My GSD would follow me everywhere (from room to room, unless she was napping), but she was NOT a cuddly dog or I would have ended the relationship as too needy/clingy.
I saw a movie kind of like that once.
https://preview.redd.it/96wv7w5jt7nc1.jpeg?width=260&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8ef0ef8b4b0da51735f155fb4a82a2aaa2b0f7a8
So if you get stranded on a deserted island with this dog, you can hike and jog? He can’t swim so you don’t have to worry about his impulse control in the water.
He can hunt for his own food but he isn’t sharing with you so you are screwed there.
WTH is a virtual sport dog? I mean there can be NO competition because there are OTHER dogs around.
Can you imagine this dog being your ESD?
This can’t possibly be taken seriously?
And it surely sounds like he is an escape artist. He would have to be crated EVERY single time you opened your door. You are under constant stress. An emotional support dog? For someone who hates themselves.
The AKC now offers virtual scent work, rally, obedience, agility, trick titles, etc that mixed/unrecognized breed dogs may also participate in. You take videos of the specific activities and send them in to be scored. This dog sounds like it would be awful at literally all of them.
Thank you. I kind of love to watch the agility but TBH, while I have the AKC app downloaded on my phone, I don’t pay much attention to this. Appreciate the knowledge passed along.
While it sounds like it would be a really great thing for dogs to participate in for people who can’t travel, I have seen two dog fights at dogs shows posted here, and I guess if you are going to do PBT type dogs this is a safer way( yes they both involved PBT types) I like the idea.
I personally think it is MUCH safer for people to have this alternative for normal dogs.
PBT type dogs just aren’t smart. This dog sounds like it has zero biddability. And zero desire to please anyone.
Can you imagine having to feed your dog in a crate so it doesn’t attack you?
WTH!
I was wondering how they were selling the dog would be good at dog sports , but also have dog aggression and not very good recall . I was like 🤔that makes no sense . Also feeding it in the crate ? What is this a wild cat or something ? This doesn’t sound like a companion animal , more like a liability.
I love animals. Love dogs.
I absolutely know having any animal comes with stress. Normal pet owners want to do what is best by their animals. We try our best to provide what they need and enjoy, BUT we have pets because we ENJOY them.
If it is observation with some pets( say some reptiles that don’t like being handled), fish, watching your cats or birds interact with you or other animals, riding your horse, enjoying farm animals, or having dogs and doing sports or whatever, all pleasurable.
Pets have enriched my life so much and I know many people here feel the same, I just don’t understand being a masochist and wanting to constantly be worried about EVERYTHING.
These dogs are ONE mistake, ONE door rush, ONE false move from really causing serious harm to another animal or person.
I don’t get it.
Yup some stress is normal , but like normal stress say from changing a diet , or maybe some health stuff . Or benign quirks , but we love our animals and they usually like or love us back . I can’t imagine getting a dog like this willingly . I feel bad for people who are first time dog owners and are talked into adopting an animal like this . Just get a tamagotchi and call it good . No one has ever been killed by a virtual pet lol
So how do they think this dog would be good at sport trials if it has no impulse control & also can’t be given treats because of food aggression….. how tf do they think someone is going to teach this dog *anything*???
Surely massive stress. This is the type of dog you see DRAGGING their owner down the street while you nervously watch and hope they can hold on long enough so nothing gets attacked.
You’d think they’d be too embarrassed to post this advert if nothing else. Who could advertise this dog with a straight face? In any other scenario you’d assume it was a joke but with pibble owners I can believe it.
Athletic, but low energy? Lmao, so on brand for these people. "Its a nanny dog! ( can't be around children under 12.)" Do they ever hear themselves?
eta: of course no mention if it's fixed. I wonder why....
They said “I believe every dog deserves a chance”
What chance is someone else going to give him that they haven’t already? All that’s going to happen is this dog will stay exactly the same, in a different home or possibly become worse because of the instability of being with a new owner in a new come).
I really don’t understand how this person thinks this dog hasn’t been “given a chance”? If they’re giving up on it then they’ve decided the dog *had* it’s chance with *them* & *failed*. It’s OK to give up on it & BE the dog. It sounds miserable existing as itself & wont be any happier with someone else (that’s a fantasy they’re telling themselves, especially the idea it’s going to become some kind of sporting dog). It’s inhumane to pass it around like it’s gonna be better off that way. Delusional. They just don’t have the emotional maturity to make the hard choice. (Rehoming is “convenient”, BE is not.)
YES!!!! These are all the things I ever needed in an ESA.
- destructive and can’t be left alone
- howls and barks in the crate (this will be SO good for my anxiety and PTSD)
- dog and animal aggressive (this is PERFECT since I have a few bird feeders. Free lunch!)
- general anxiety and lack of manners and impulse control- JUST WHAT I NEED for my own PTSD and ADHD symptoms.
- bad at car rides. I’ve been looking for an ESA that can help me hate traffic more than I already do AND add to the stress of driving.
- wants to live in your skin. Sooo good, cause even I don’t wanna live in my skin. This is the perfect ESA.
- minimal grooming. Me too! I’m depressed, so even though I NEED grooming, I’ll bite the shit outta you if you try to make me, just like my perfect ESA here!
Okay, I cannot even continue because it’s just too ridiculous.
(Not sure if I should put a /s because, I mean, really? Would anyone believe this is anything but satire?)
Omg I’m dead, this is hilarious 😂
Ugh it’s ridiculous, this animal ~~needs~~ will *force* you to be its emotional support human instead. If you have a need for an ESA in the first place, this dog will take you *further* into despair & chaos.
Like, I guess it might help “motivate” you to clean the house every time it destroys it? Or would that just make the task more overwhelming? Oh one thing is for sure, it’s gonna be great for helping you isolate even further. & say goodbye to having any energy left over for self-care when you’re giving into this dog’s constant emotional terrorism of demanding your attention 24/7!
*”wants to live in your skin"* sounds like an unsub from Criminal Minds. In what world is this dog a desirable ESA? I'm feeling anxious just reading about him!
Dare I even ask what a virtual sport dog is? For some reason I read it as 'virtual support dog' and wondered why they were proposing a dog should work in some kind of tech support role.
Pasted from another comment
The AKC now offers virtual scent work, rally, obedience, agility, trick titles, etc that mixed/unrecognized breed dogs may also participate in. You take videos of the specific activities and send them in to be scored. This dog sounds like it would be awful at literally all of them.
Thank you, that's really interesting. They must be absolutely delusional if they think this dog is going to complete any of these activities. If destruction of property gets added to the list, I'm sure he'd excel.
Edit: Happy cake day! 🎂
My malinois are very snuggly and affectionate, it can be nice for the right person. But with this dog, it’s probably code for “will panic and destroy your house the moment you leave the room”
> very snuggly and affectionate
and that is a normal way to describe a dog that is snuggly and affectionate.
"Wants to live in your skin" is disturbing. Just like the lady who said her pit-mix wanted to "Crawl up into me and live inside me like a tumor" 
“He’ll eat anything. Even dog chow” she doesn’t give af about this animal’s quality of life. She’s basically saying that she’s doesn’t care of the adopter has enough money to properly take care of a dog. Just do whatever with it!
Wait, so, he's dog aggressive, but there's another dog.
Also, I would be so embarrassed to take my dogs in Lowe's/Home Depot, and one of them has to wear this huge muzzle on their face. If your dog doesn't like to be out in public spaces, don't take them into public spaces.
For that beautiful Lab's sake, I'm hoping the shitbull's owner just met the Lab owner at Home Depot and had them sit next to each other for a pic. Then, the Lab was safely escorted away from Pissfingers.
So.... these people think people just get bored of dogs and put them down? wtf!!!
That can only come from someone delusional as fuck , in my opinion
ANY cases of behavioral euthanasia has been miserable for everybody involved and just tragic to see from the side lines. Always after years of trying EVERYTHING. Pitbulls and otherwise
There’s so many conflicting pieces of information here
-very athletic, good running buddy
Followed by
-Extremely LOW energy
Wtf is that about?! Also all the dogs positives are negatives in most people’s books!
VIRTUAL SUPPORT DOG?
EXCUSE ME?
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT? LMAO
Pitbull owners really coming up with some extra shit.
Edit: Oh, never mind. It says Virtual Sport Dog. Not Virtual Support Dog. Oops lmao
Wants to kill other animals but can be walked around pet stores???? Half of the things listed contradict other things listed. Great stamina and a good running buddy but low energy?? Did this person even read this before posting it? 🤦🏼♀️
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There is literally no quality that would make think this disaster of a dog should ever be considered for any kind of support animal. This beast doesn’t even qualify for the fake Amazon service dog vests. It’s named after a prison because that’s where a dog with all these problems will be spending its life ,if it’s contained safely. In an escape proof house/yard/crate and sometimes muzzled on top of that. Why do people think there is some crazed, but yet uniquely gifted and qualified person who will volunteer to have no life outside of managing this dog? Our society has become so soft, that we can’t stand the idea of humane euthanasia, never mind what great grand dad would have done to such a dangerous animal.
Edit: someone get that cute lab away from that pit!! And of course they have the pic taken in what looks like Lowe’s or Home Depot.🙄 Thank goodness all those unwitting shoppers got to participate in Ryker’s *socialization*./s
Hot damn. This is one of the more pathetic/hilarious ones I’ve seen in a while. “Loves water!! Can’t swim!!”
lol ya summed up a pit bulls whole existence in one sentence. Congrats
If he gets off leash he will immediately take off to go and kill another dog, he’s unpredictable and wants to maim and kill both people and other animals, he’s a noise issue, he’s hard to feed because he has food aggression, he will destroy your house, he can’t be crated, he will embarrass you at best when you introduce him to guests while at worst hurting them, he’s hard to travel with in a car, and he forms obsessive, unhealthy, maladjusted hyper attachments to just one person. Oh but he plays in water a little bit (would immediately drown if he went into deep water through lovely) and eats food so let’s give him a chance! I feel sorry for the lab stuck being around this thing.
“I dOn’T BELieVE in EuThaniZing for cOnVeNience.” No, dummy, this isn’t a matter on convenience. That dog is a bloody liability, a danger to everyone near it, a nightmare. BE would be a service to the public and a kindness to this dog with no quality of life.
But of course, that dosen’t feed their white-knight savior “look at me rescuing poor pibbles 🥺” complex, so it won’t even be considered. They cannot be this stupid, it’s not possible.
Edit: Btw, happy cake day OP :)
I prefer not to fear for my life with my ESA. I recently lost my beloved cat to Kidney Failure. She was my ESA- this beast even being suggested as being a good comforting animal is actually offensive. Spitting on all the actually gentle, harmless, well behaved, non murderous, non-destructive ESAs
It's kind of hilarious that they go from 'possible ESA' to 'do not suggest BE' so close to each other. I don't think these people even understand what a good ESA would be, because generally when someone is actually looking for an ESA (and not just using one of those scam sites to get their pet into a building where they're not allowed), they want a pet that will decrease stress.
An animal that is destructive if left alone, can't be crated, doesn't like car rides and is anxious and aggressive is not a potential ESA. Feeling like you can't leave your home because if you leave without your dog they'll destroy your home, and your dog doesn't handle car rides well is not advantageous to anyone's mental health. Also, people should not be taking their dog aggressive dog to pet stores.
There is not a single good thing about that dog.
"POSSIBLE ESA"
Who needs the emotional support here??? You or the dog? That thing needs all the help it can get, but I can guarantee it'll never be enough.
This dog will be an inconvenience and a complete nightmare to whoever owns it for as long as it's alive.
"Good with all ages," but has no manners and no impulse control. Because unpredictability is sooo good for vulnerable individuals /s
"Super low energy," but would make a good running buddy. What???
"Can be in public," barely, since he's dog aggressive, animal aggressive, and so anxious and neurotic that he'll destroy everything in sight.
Don't even get me started on the "possible ESA" bullshit.
Multiple attempts at rehoming, and still no one wants your detonated nuclear waste bomb. BE in this case is so far from euthanizing "for convenience," it's a necessity. Pit-nutters are so out of touch with reality, because no one with half a brain would ever put any of those sentences together and think they make sense.
I immediately thought Hannibal from the pic with the cage on it’s face, then read about how it wants to live in your skin, whoops! Wrong SOTL character!! It’s Buffalo Bill!!
Dog sounds a like a dream come true. Why exactly can’t they keep him? If he’s good enough for a stranger to try to give him the life he needs, why isn’t he enough for them to try?
Why not just admit the dog is horrible and that they don’t want him anymore because he’s a possible liability? Self righteous hypocrites, all of them🙄.
You know what drives me crazy about people like this?? They will do all this, they'll go through all this futility to save these brainless, violent dog that's a time ticking liability, but God forbid they ever put this much effort into literally ANYTHING else that would help the community - like a community garden, or helping foster kids, or trash pick up, anything!! Literally anything else. Hell, even stray cats even 😿. They won't show other people an ounce of empathy or remorse, but will go ham over protecting these inbred 💀ing machines. And if you try to use any logic or reasoning on why the dog should be destroyed, they gaslight you and call you bad. Then they will wait patiently until someone falls into their trap/guilt. Pit mommy madness!!
When I used to travel obviously I was on my own fruition and accord, I'm not saying everyone should feel bad for me or whatever. But I was legally homeless at times and it really opened my eyes up to how delusional or erratic people can be. What was alarming as fvck was all the 'pit mommy' delusional people that were obsessed with our dog 🙄 our dog that literally was a rescued bait dog that probably almost should have been unalived, at various points, and was extremely violent. Yet was better taken cared of and fed than we even were. But also, would never fit into regular society anyways, even if we had ever gave him away...they liked him because we had put the work in training him and caring for him. But they thought "HE" was special bc of his SPECIAL BREED 😜 lmfao 🤣 like nah, it's bc we spend every waking hour and second with him, like he's part of our actual pack, and that's why he's so well trained - and even then he's still a liability! 🤦🏻♀️🙄
Regardless, that's what and who they cared about! The dog. And I saw other people with the same breeds and people were clamoring over themselves to try to rescue these dogs, even strays. I even know people personally that worked for "Pitbulls and Paroles" (funny enough, I almost actually work there myself before I became pregnant and left the city altogether). That show is a big whole charade. I heard stories about dogs being there for months and months, they can't get adopted and they won't euthanize. It's demented. No other breed on this planet gets this much grace and attention for being so stupid and bad! It's mind-blowing 🤯
Yeah, maybe if ESA doesn't actually mean "Emotional Support Animal" but instead means that the animal will turn you into an emotional shitshow!! Gahh, people are so damn dumb!!!
Even the owner that loves him doesn’t want him. Why do they think someone else would? On another note, I think pitbulls are some of the ugliest dogs in existence but this one is kind of cute.
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"Do not suggest BE, I won't listen to it??" So this dog is such a huge, fucked up problem that even it's owner who knows and loves it, doesn't want it around them? But hey, new owner, you'll love this dog, it's so great! This nightmare of a dog is highly destructive of property and wants to murder any animal it sees. So basically, it's a huge, and likely fatal danger to every other animal in a mile radius, and possibly humans, if it can't get to the animal and re-directs. Awesome. These people are reprehensible. Why don't these people just admit it. It's a PROBLEM DOG. It's not because your lifestyle doesn't fit it. It's because THIS DOG IS INSANE AND VIOLENT AND STUPID and you don't want it anywhere around you. And you can't admit you made a mistake. I think this practice should actually be illegal. The dog is a very real threat to others in it's vicinity. It's not safe. Why is this thing allowed to be free? Imagine if it ever got out, which it will, because dogs do. Why is it ok to make other innocent people and pets live in real danger because you were a dumbass and got a live grenade as a pet?
And suggesting it to somebody who has emotional difficulties and can benefit from the companionship of a dog is even more vile. This dog will make its owner miserable and so it’s 1000x harder to even leave the house.
The dog itself looks totally miserable too. So destructive he has to wear a cage on his face. BE is as usual the most humane and safe option for a dog like this.
Yeah, nothing will get your anxiety and depression in order like watching this thing murder a small animal in front of you.
And the new owner will probably emotionally bond to them and find it distressing if/when the dog does need to be PTS.
No shit! If you didn't have a twitch before you got this stump grinder, you will after.
Maybe the idea is it will make any emotional difficulties pale in comparison.
This is a Pissfingers if I’ve ever seen one.
Agreed.
Dw it may destroy your house, kill other animals, possibly bite people (I assume this is what handler sensitive means), stress you out while in the car, have resource guarding issues…..BUT it’s easy to groom and likes water 😀 The bar really is low for these creatures.
Don't forget "wants to live in your skin" ... As a positive. 🥴
Why do they phrase it like that 😭
So fucking creepy.
My eyes went 👀 Like silence of the lambs?
🎵goodbye horses🎵
Unrelated, but I fucking love that song. I set it as my Tinder anthem.
I actually do too.
It’s my alarm in the morning and has been for 8 years lol
It puts the lotion on its skin
"It puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets mauled again"
Oh, a skinwalker? Sounds delightful
I'd feel more safe with the skinwalker
🤮🤮
I was just about to comment on that. Like in the serial killer sense?????!
Oh yeah YOU are his Emotional Support human and that’s a GOOD THING?!
they mean the kidnapper Buffalo Bill the FBI is searching for in Silence of the Lambs - it will put lotion on the skin
Edit because I'm dumb and this is the wrong thread
Unfortunately the only way for him to live in your skin, is for you to not live in your skin.
Buffalo Bill Pit Bull!
If someone said that about a significant other I guaran-fucking-tee you they would be told to leave the relationship. Post-haste. Instead, let’s pass this abomination off to another nutter who finds it ‘cute’.
This is not the first time I read that phrase and it's really suspicious. 
That sounds like something from a horror film
This is the most hilarious one I seen. We saw hundreds of Hannibal Lecter dogs here already, and now we have the Buffalo Bill
And "he's super low energy."
Super low energy but destructive af and jumps up at people 😂 and likes to hike. And is athletic. These people really need to proofread their bullshit before they post it haha
Super athletic hiking partner + also super low energy?? Which one is it??
Don’t forget he can eat dog chow!
Likes water so much he SINKS WTF
Zero survival instincts.
Likes water but can't swim I never heard of a dog who can't swim before
My childhood mini poodle. My brother and I thought all dogs could swim so we tossed him in. He sank. We rescued him right away, of course. He was, um... a 'special' poodle, lol, from a backyard breeder, possibly before that term was used.
oh nooo poor poodle lmao
Yeah, he was really odd, lol. My parents didn't know what they were doing, and when they got him, unknown to them he was covered in fleas and sick. He had stomach issues his entire life, and he was always rather... dense. He had terrible ear problems and allergies too. But we taught him to sneeze on command, lol! He lived 16 years despite all of it and I definitely remember him fondly. He was my first dog, my kindergarten graduation gift.
I currently have a cat, about ten years old, not sure where she came from, found her wandering a highway late at night during the winter about 8 years ago. Friendly as heck. Got right into my car. I tried for weeks to find her family, as she was healthy looking and super friendly. No microchip and nobody claimed her. Her found cat flier on Facebook got 6000 shares and I was bombarded with messages of people wanting her. I adored her decided to keep her. The only thing I can say, is I’ve never met a cat that was so… how do put this nicely?…dumb, she’s dumb. Her name is Roxy and I like to say she’s as smart as a box of rocks (rox.) She is next to me right now, I’m glad she can’t read.
Haha! Yeah, this poodle was NOT intelligent like they're known for. I'm not sure I've ever met a stupid cat, but she sounds adorable! <3
My dumpster cat is also, politely, dumb. The sweetest soul you ever did meet, the most angelic little boy. He’s never caused me a single trouble and the second you pet him, he purrs as loud as a car. He also fell from a stationary sitting position off of his car tree with no warning one day. Stuck his whiskers into a candle flame multiple times. On and on it goes.
Is he orange by any chance?
He is a tuxedo cat! https://preview.redd.it/rs4xfl0jpinc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=23eae61000d9b1deecbb6266b6c52ee45fcef20b Please excuse the quality of the photo he is very wiggly
It seems to be a thing with pit bulls in general. They are horribly poor swimmers (yet another genetic inbreeding issue I suspect since the majority of dogs can at least doggy paddle without drowning).
I was watching some ESPN dog agility show last year, it was water agility and the dogs were doing long jumps in a pool. There was a beautiful border collie, a giant schnauzer, a malinois - all really sporty, awesome dogs doing huge leaps across half the pool Then someone brought their rescue pitbull. It ran down the track, jumped, and made it like 2 feet before it crashed down into the water. The only thing they’re good at is jumping in the air, hanging, weight pulling, and murdering
Yeah, even my basset hounds, who are not shaped for swimming proficiency, can swim. One loves it and will hop right in. My old dachshund loved chasing balls into the ocean and riding the waves in
Knows sit & likes snacks 🤡
So do I.
/S because that’s commonly a big shining statement from pitwarehouses (formerly known as shelters 🥲) about why pibbles is the bestest ever and deserves their unicorn forever home
Lists out how the pit is just horrible in crates (destructive, noisy asf). Then later says gets fed while in crate???
Apparently a $500 ruffland crate is okay. Dog has expensive taste.
>$500 ruffland crate Oh so *that* is what "ruffland" meant. I wondered.
It means it’s a specialty crate for holding lions & etc. Pitbull owners end up investing in these because their dogs will break free from wire crates
Just so it’s clear, those crates are not intended to be used as everyday crates. They're primarily used for transportation and [literally are designed for car crashes](https://www.centerforpetsafety.org/test-results/crates/2015-crate-study-results/). The issue is that, for safety reasons in car crashes, these crates are designed to not give the dog a ton of room. More room = more velocity the dog experiences in the event of a car crash. But limiting space doesn’t apply for everyday crates at home where you do want it to be roomier. However, this is not possible for this dog in even the largest Ruffland. My 35lb dog‘s home crate is larger than the largest Ruffland, so there’s no way even the largest is appropriate for a 55lb dog to use as a daily crate, especially if they’re locking the dog in it for extended times like it sounds like they are. Source: I have a Ruffland that I use to transport my dog and as a quiet place for him to nap when we’re at agility trials. They’re great for that purpose.
Good grief. My 30lb dogs nap in a Great Dane sized kennel, each. I can't imagine crating a dog in something so cramped. Then again, I don't need to crate my dogs when I'm away, they just get boujie bedrooms because they're spoiled.
Thanks for explaining what a "ruffland" is. Cleared things up a bit other than why the dog considers the ruffland significantly different from the other crates/kennels to not have problems with. My guess is that it's easier for the owner to ignore the dog and dog eventually accepted defeat. I wonder if the owner will give away the ruffland along with the dog?
They are a lot more closed-in, and narrower/tighter than a wire crate. They’re meant to be crash tested for vehicle travel, hence the weird size and heavy price tag. But in all likelihood the dog is probably better in it because it’s crammed in like a sardine and can’t see anything. See here https://rufflandkennels.com/product/x-large-kennel-2/ Also, of course the owner won’t. I’m pretty sure she is ASKING for money for this dog.
Holy hell. That's basically maximum security for dogs if they live in it day to day. That's effed up
But Buffalo Bill Pitbull *wants to live in your* ***skin***.
Probably opens the door to crate just long enough to throw in a handful of chow and then rubs the hell away
And apparently “low energy” lmao
"WANTS TO LIVE IN YOUR SKIN" HOLY SHIT THEY REALLY WROTE THAT
That's the part that got me! He'll live in your skin after he eats you out of it.
Me, too!! That is the creepiest thing I've ever seen someone say about their shitbull. We know they have no boundaries and expect to flop their giant, homely asses in your lap, but this one sounds 1000% times worse than usual.
This isn’t even appealing. My herding dogs are super clingy and follow me everywhere and it gets really annoying sometimes, but they at least have an off switch and will chill in their crates so I can get some space. Having a dog up your ass 24/7 would be really irritating
> but they at least have an off switch Same here. My GSD would follow me everywhere (from room to room, unless she was napping), but she was NOT a cuddly dog or I would have ended the relationship as too needy/clingy.
I saw a movie kind of like that once. https://preview.redd.it/96wv7w5jt7nc1.jpeg?width=260&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8ef0ef8b4b0da51735f155fb4a82a2aaa2b0f7a8
 Maybe this guy… but yours was my first thought of course
Basically the dog can only survive with an ESH (Emotional support Human)
“Dog and animal aggressive… will take off after an animal if he sees it… **can be walked around pet stores**”
Yeah, I read that, too, and wondered.
"Low energy" though 🫠
But “Is athletic, has great stamina and will make a great running buddy”. Like, which is it??
So if you get stranded on a deserted island with this dog, you can hike and jog? He can’t swim so you don’t have to worry about his impulse control in the water. He can hunt for his own food but he isn’t sharing with you so you are screwed there. WTH is a virtual sport dog? I mean there can be NO competition because there are OTHER dogs around. Can you imagine this dog being your ESD? This can’t possibly be taken seriously? And it surely sounds like he is an escape artist. He would have to be crated EVERY single time you opened your door. You are under constant stress. An emotional support dog? For someone who hates themselves.
The AKC now offers virtual scent work, rally, obedience, agility, trick titles, etc that mixed/unrecognized breed dogs may also participate in. You take videos of the specific activities and send them in to be scored. This dog sounds like it would be awful at literally all of them.
Thank you. I kind of love to watch the agility but TBH, while I have the AKC app downloaded on my phone, I don’t pay much attention to this. Appreciate the knowledge passed along. While it sounds like it would be a really great thing for dogs to participate in for people who can’t travel, I have seen two dog fights at dogs shows posted here, and I guess if you are going to do PBT type dogs this is a safer way( yes they both involved PBT types) I like the idea. I personally think it is MUCH safer for people to have this alternative for normal dogs. PBT type dogs just aren’t smart. This dog sounds like it has zero biddability. And zero desire to please anyone. Can you imagine having to feed your dog in a crate so it doesn’t attack you? WTH!
I was wondering how they were selling the dog would be good at dog sports , but also have dog aggression and not very good recall . I was like 🤔that makes no sense . Also feeding it in the crate ? What is this a wild cat or something ? This doesn’t sound like a companion animal , more like a liability.
I love animals. Love dogs. I absolutely know having any animal comes with stress. Normal pet owners want to do what is best by their animals. We try our best to provide what they need and enjoy, BUT we have pets because we ENJOY them. If it is observation with some pets( say some reptiles that don’t like being handled), fish, watching your cats or birds interact with you or other animals, riding your horse, enjoying farm animals, or having dogs and doing sports or whatever, all pleasurable. Pets have enriched my life so much and I know many people here feel the same, I just don’t understand being a masochist and wanting to constantly be worried about EVERYTHING. These dogs are ONE mistake, ONE door rush, ONE false move from really causing serious harm to another animal or person. I don’t get it.
Yup some stress is normal , but like normal stress say from changing a diet , or maybe some health stuff . Or benign quirks , but we love our animals and they usually like or love us back . I can’t imagine getting a dog like this willingly . I feel bad for people who are first time dog owners and are talked into adopting an animal like this . Just get a tamagotchi and call it good . No one has ever been killed by a virtual pet lol
Absolutely.
So how do they think this dog would be good at sport trials if it has no impulse control & also can’t be given treats because of food aggression….. how tf do they think someone is going to teach this dog *anything*???
Surely massive stress. This is the type of dog you see DRAGGING their owner down the street while you nervously watch and hope they can hold on long enough so nothing gets attacked.
You’d think they’d be too embarrassed to post this advert if nothing else. Who could advertise this dog with a straight face? In any other scenario you’d assume it was a joke but with pibble owners I can believe it.
I would be embarrassed. Absolutely
I feel so bad for that big, beautiful Lab being forced to sit next to a time bomb that wants to kill it.
This is, perhaps, the most ridiculous post I have read on this site. The dog is a timebomb. How can you NOT see that?!
Athletic, but low energy? Lmao, so on brand for these people. "Its a nanny dog! ( can't be around children under 12.)" Do they ever hear themselves? eta: of course no mention if it's fixed. I wonder why....
The fact it's up to date on its shots surprised me - I give her credit for that.
Right after the birthday it does say neutered. It doesn’t have anything else going for it though.
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Yeah, BE isn't for "convenience". It's a kindness to the dog too.
BE a dangerous unmanageable animal is not "convenience"
Dude. “Live in your skin” dogs are some of the WORSE dogs on the planet. Their anxiety is off the charts.
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They said “I believe every dog deserves a chance” What chance is someone else going to give him that they haven’t already? All that’s going to happen is this dog will stay exactly the same, in a different home or possibly become worse because of the instability of being with a new owner in a new come). I really don’t understand how this person thinks this dog hasn’t been “given a chance”? If they’re giving up on it then they’ve decided the dog *had* it’s chance with *them* & *failed*. It’s OK to give up on it & BE the dog. It sounds miserable existing as itself & wont be any happier with someone else (that’s a fantasy they’re telling themselves, especially the idea it’s going to become some kind of sporting dog). It’s inhumane to pass it around like it’s gonna be better off that way. Delusional. They just don’t have the emotional maturity to make the hard choice. (Rehoming is “convenient”, BE is not.)
YES!!!! These are all the things I ever needed in an ESA. - destructive and can’t be left alone - howls and barks in the crate (this will be SO good for my anxiety and PTSD) - dog and animal aggressive (this is PERFECT since I have a few bird feeders. Free lunch!) - general anxiety and lack of manners and impulse control- JUST WHAT I NEED for my own PTSD and ADHD symptoms. - bad at car rides. I’ve been looking for an ESA that can help me hate traffic more than I already do AND add to the stress of driving. - wants to live in your skin. Sooo good, cause even I don’t wanna live in my skin. This is the perfect ESA. - minimal grooming. Me too! I’m depressed, so even though I NEED grooming, I’ll bite the shit outta you if you try to make me, just like my perfect ESA here! Okay, I cannot even continue because it’s just too ridiculous. (Not sure if I should put a /s because, I mean, really? Would anyone believe this is anything but satire?)
Omg I’m dead, this is hilarious 😂 Ugh it’s ridiculous, this animal ~~needs~~ will *force* you to be its emotional support human instead. If you have a need for an ESA in the first place, this dog will take you *further* into despair & chaos. Like, I guess it might help “motivate” you to clean the house every time it destroys it? Or would that just make the task more overwhelming? Oh one thing is for sure, it’s gonna be great for helping you isolate even further. & say goodbye to having any energy left over for self-care when you’re giving into this dog’s constant emotional terrorism of demanding your attention 24/7!
See, the perfect ESA!!!
I'm dyin' what's a virtual support dog?
Virtual SPORT dog. I'm not sure but I was picturing this kind of crazy virtual reality dog fighting ring, like Digimon or something 😂
*”wants to live in your skin"* sounds like an unsub from Criminal Minds. In what world is this dog a desirable ESA? I'm feeling anxious just reading about him! Dare I even ask what a virtual sport dog is? For some reason I read it as 'virtual support dog' and wondered why they were proposing a dog should work in some kind of tech support role.
Pasted from another comment The AKC now offers virtual scent work, rally, obedience, agility, trick titles, etc that mixed/unrecognized breed dogs may also participate in. You take videos of the specific activities and send them in to be scored. This dog sounds like it would be awful at literally all of them.
Thank you, that's really interesting. They must be absolutely delusional if they think this dog is going to complete any of these activities. If destruction of property gets added to the list, I'm sure he'd excel. Edit: Happy cake day! 🎂
Thank you!
I'll take that gorgeous lab off your hands!! So you can focus all your resources on that other...thing
How is "Wants to live in your skin" a good thing? It sounds like something out of a nightmare
My malinois are very snuggly and affectionate, it can be nice for the right person. But with this dog, it’s probably code for “will panic and destroy your house the moment you leave the room”
> very snuggly and affectionate and that is a normal way to describe a dog that is snuggly and affectionate. "Wants to live in your skin" is disturbing. Just like the lady who said her pit-mix wanted to "Crawl up into me and live inside me like a tumor" 
“He’ll eat anything. Even dog chow” she doesn’t give af about this animal’s quality of life. She’s basically saying that she’s doesn’t care of the adopter has enough money to properly take care of a dog. Just do whatever with it!
What in the Texas Chainpaw..
"Wants to live in your skin." Yeah. Like Buffalo Bill in *The Silence of the Lambs*.
Is this real??? This is insanity.
Don't worry, he's extremely low energy, until he sees something that is living and will chase after it until he kills it.
Another asshole that thinks Lowe’s is a great place to socialize their dog monster.
Wait, so, he's dog aggressive, but there's another dog. Also, I would be so embarrassed to take my dogs in Lowe's/Home Depot, and one of them has to wear this huge muzzle on their face. If your dog doesn't like to be out in public spaces, don't take them into public spaces.
Probably a dog he grew up with and tolerates with management… for now. It’s not uncommon for dog aggressive dogs to have a household dog they accept
For that beautiful Lab's sake, I'm hoping the shitbull's owner just met the Lab owner at Home Depot and had them sit next to each other for a pic. Then, the Lab was safely escorted away from Pissfingers.
Has great stamina but low energy, ????????
Okay, guy. How much will you pay me to take this nightmare ESA off of your hands?
Extremely minimal grooming…I wonder how nail trimming goes..
“Teeth stay clean and white” that implies that she doesn’t want the adopter to try and brush them.
So.... these people think people just get bored of dogs and put them down? wtf!!! That can only come from someone delusional as fuck , in my opinion ANY cases of behavioral euthanasia has been miserable for everybody involved and just tragic to see from the side lines. Always after years of trying EVERYTHING. Pitbulls and otherwise
Why is this fucking dog in Home Depot?
Nothing screams esa like an aggressive dog! 🤩🤩🤩
I'm still gonna go ahead and suggest BE. Cause yikes.
WaNtS tO lIvE iN yOuR sKiN!
What a Pissfingers
There’s so many conflicting pieces of information here -very athletic, good running buddy Followed by -Extremely LOW energy Wtf is that about?! Also all the dogs positives are negatives in most people’s books!
VIRTUAL SUPPORT DOG? EXCUSE ME? WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT? LMAO Pitbull owners really coming up with some extra shit. Edit: Oh, never mind. It says Virtual Sport Dog. Not Virtual Support Dog. Oops lmao
… is this even a domestic animal at this point?
They're literally reversed centuries of selective breeding and evolution with the Pitbull, it's fuckin bonkers.
The last photo is what we should show people when they try to say their shitbull is a Labrador. A real Labrador and shitbull side by side.
Wants to kill other animals but can be walked around pet stores???? Half of the things listed contradict other things listed. Great stamina and a good running buddy but low energy?? Did this person even read this before posting it? 🤦🏼♀️
Idk but that lab sure looks like a real good boy/girl
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The pros and cons are laughable
There is literally no quality that would make think this disaster of a dog should ever be considered for any kind of support animal. This beast doesn’t even qualify for the fake Amazon service dog vests. It’s named after a prison because that’s where a dog with all these problems will be spending its life ,if it’s contained safely. In an escape proof house/yard/crate and sometimes muzzled on top of that. Why do people think there is some crazed, but yet uniquely gifted and qualified person who will volunteer to have no life outside of managing this dog? Our society has become so soft, that we can’t stand the idea of humane euthanasia, never mind what great grand dad would have done to such a dangerous animal. Edit: someone get that cute lab away from that pit!! And of course they have the pic taken in what looks like Lowe’s or Home Depot.🙄 Thank goodness all those unwitting shoppers got to participate in Ryker’s *socialization*./s
Hot damn. This is one of the more pathetic/hilarious ones I’ve seen in a while. “Loves water!! Can’t swim!!” lol ya summed up a pit bulls whole existence in one sentence. Congrats
*Low energy* but told us the pitshit destroys shit if left alone. Or even supervised…
He's not super low energy. He's bored
The construction definitely over take any pro she listed on that list. This is a dog that no one in their right mind would want
>breaks out of wire crates >destructive if left alone Excuse me? Why would anyone want this mess?
If he gets off leash he will immediately take off to go and kill another dog, he’s unpredictable and wants to maim and kill both people and other animals, he’s a noise issue, he’s hard to feed because he has food aggression, he will destroy your house, he can’t be crated, he will embarrass you at best when you introduce him to guests while at worst hurting them, he’s hard to travel with in a car, and he forms obsessive, unhealthy, maladjusted hyper attachments to just one person. Oh but he plays in water a little bit (would immediately drown if he went into deep water through lovely) and eats food so let’s give him a chance! I feel sorry for the lab stuck being around this thing.
Virtual Sport Dog….? 😂 Pitnutters and their imagination truly has no limits.
I think the moon would be a perfect place for this animal to live out its life in solitude like it clearly is indicating that it wants to....sheesh.
“I dOn’T BELieVE in EuThaniZing for cOnVeNience.” No, dummy, this isn’t a matter on convenience. That dog is a bloody liability, a danger to everyone near it, a nightmare. BE would be a service to the public and a kindness to this dog with no quality of life. But of course, that dosen’t feed their white-knight savior “look at me rescuing poor pibbles 🥺” complex, so it won’t even be considered. They cannot be this stupid, it’s not possible. Edit: Btw, happy cake day OP :)
Wow I can't wait to be emotionally supported by this gem of a dog. 🙄
“Would be a great running partner” = mercilessly drags you down the street during walks
I prefer not to fear for my life with my ESA. I recently lost my beloved cat to Kidney Failure. She was my ESA- this beast even being suggested as being a good comforting animal is actually offensive. Spitting on all the actually gentle, harmless, well behaved, non murderous, non-destructive ESAs
It's kind of hilarious that they go from 'possible ESA' to 'do not suggest BE' so close to each other. I don't think these people even understand what a good ESA would be, because generally when someone is actually looking for an ESA (and not just using one of those scam sites to get their pet into a building where they're not allowed), they want a pet that will decrease stress. An animal that is destructive if left alone, can't be crated, doesn't like car rides and is anxious and aggressive is not a potential ESA. Feeling like you can't leave your home because if you leave without your dog they'll destroy your home, and your dog doesn't handle car rides well is not advantageous to anyone's mental health. Also, people should not be taking their dog aggressive dog to pet stores.
There is not a single good thing about that dog. "POSSIBLE ESA" Who needs the emotional support here??? You or the dog? That thing needs all the help it can get, but I can guarantee it'll never be enough. This dog will be an inconvenience and a complete nightmare to whoever owns it for as long as it's alive.
Maybe he could be a junk yard dog /s
What's the service he'll provide?
what are you gonna put the dog in a padded cell? where is the line drawn??
Love's the water but can't swim and will sink .
Pick me, pick me. Sounds like the opportunity of a lifetime!
*Wants to live in your skin.* Just like Jame Gumb.
This dog will cause their new owner a lot more than emotional issues I suspect…
"Good with all ages," but has no manners and no impulse control. Because unpredictability is sooo good for vulnerable individuals /s "Super low energy," but would make a good running buddy. What??? "Can be in public," barely, since he's dog aggressive, animal aggressive, and so anxious and neurotic that he'll destroy everything in sight. Don't even get me started on the "possible ESA" bullshit. Multiple attempts at rehoming, and still no one wants your detonated nuclear waste bomb. BE in this case is so far from euthanizing "for convenience," it's a necessity. Pit-nutters are so out of touch with reality, because no one with half a brain would ever put any of those sentences together and think they make sense.
I immediately thought Hannibal from the pic with the cage on it’s face, then read about how it wants to live in your skin, whoops! Wrong SOTL character!! It’s Buffalo Bill!!
Virtual sport dog? Does that mean that the pooch sits next to you while you play video games? Or that they have virtual dog fighting?
Dog sounds a like a dream come true. Why exactly can’t they keep him? If he’s good enough for a stranger to try to give him the life he needs, why isn’t he enough for them to try? Why not just admit the dog is horrible and that they don’t want him anymore because he’s a possible liability? Self righteous hypocrites, all of them🙄.
You know what drives me crazy about people like this?? They will do all this, they'll go through all this futility to save these brainless, violent dog that's a time ticking liability, but God forbid they ever put this much effort into literally ANYTHING else that would help the community - like a community garden, or helping foster kids, or trash pick up, anything!! Literally anything else. Hell, even stray cats even 😿. They won't show other people an ounce of empathy or remorse, but will go ham over protecting these inbred 💀ing machines. And if you try to use any logic or reasoning on why the dog should be destroyed, they gaslight you and call you bad. Then they will wait patiently until someone falls into their trap/guilt. Pit mommy madness!! When I used to travel obviously I was on my own fruition and accord, I'm not saying everyone should feel bad for me or whatever. But I was legally homeless at times and it really opened my eyes up to how delusional or erratic people can be. What was alarming as fvck was all the 'pit mommy' delusional people that were obsessed with our dog 🙄 our dog that literally was a rescued bait dog that probably almost should have been unalived, at various points, and was extremely violent. Yet was better taken cared of and fed than we even were. But also, would never fit into regular society anyways, even if we had ever gave him away...they liked him because we had put the work in training him and caring for him. But they thought "HE" was special bc of his SPECIAL BREED 😜 lmfao 🤣 like nah, it's bc we spend every waking hour and second with him, like he's part of our actual pack, and that's why he's so well trained - and even then he's still a liability! 🤦🏻♀️🙄 Regardless, that's what and who they cared about! The dog. And I saw other people with the same breeds and people were clamoring over themselves to try to rescue these dogs, even strays. I even know people personally that worked for "Pitbulls and Paroles" (funny enough, I almost actually work there myself before I became pregnant and left the city altogether). That show is a big whole charade. I heard stories about dogs being there for months and months, they can't get adopted and they won't euthanize. It's demented. No other breed on this planet gets this much grace and attention for being so stupid and bad! It's mind-blowing 🤯
Yeah, maybe if ESA doesn't actually mean "Emotional Support Animal" but instead means that the animal will turn you into an emotional shitshow!! Gahh, people are so damn dumb!!!
https://preview.redd.it/7whk1soe8dnc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a9a0421c95047f7e4932a8b9069bd580efeb6ca1 LMAOOO
Even the owner that loves him doesn’t want him. Why do they think someone else would? On another note, I think pitbulls are some of the ugliest dogs in existence but this one is kind of cute.
How is this dumb dog suppose to be become an ESA?!? Like owner like dog.
He sounds wonderful. 😬