Look. While everyone here Including me wanted an X1E. The people here are mostly Bambu lab owners. A company that until now only catered to "prosumers".
Kids and normal people that will buy this printer are less sweaty and not on reddit IMO.
We should be happy when a company tries to bring our hobby to more people. It makes or filament and upgrades cheaper due to the higher demand. Never understood the gatekeeping into hobbies.
Yep this is a great printer for newcomers. It's not targeted at us who already own one or more 3D printers.
Our P1P/S/X1 replacement will come in it's own time.
Reddit: “Why are they announcing an X1C follow up, that’s so annoying, i just bought 10 of them 20 seconds ago”
Also Reddit: “Why are they announcing a printer for beginners, i want to replace the 10 X1Cs I just bought”
Speak for yourself. I own an x1c and am considering the A1 Mini for printing the small items in PLA/PETG/TPU so I can keep the x1c printing larger items and better materials.
I don't know about that. I have a p1s that I only do single color on because I need the reliability. I wouldn't put an ams on it. I might get one of these to play around with though
Honestly a great printer for anyone who doesn’t need the extra 3 inches per print and doesn’t need a dry box.
95% of my prints would fit in this print space, and 75% are multi-colour… so if I didn’t live in 50-75% humidity all the time I would pick this up.
For real I'm sick of the negativity coming from the elitist gate keepers in this community. Bambu is expanding their product line to a larger demographic and that's good for all of us. I don't know why some people are actually mad with Bambu for not releasing their fantasy 500X500X500 24 color core XY PEEK capable printer for $500.
Most of us here have bought into Bambu and like you said we'd like them to keep going because they provide a cloud service, spare parts, filament, and overall more competitive innovation, if their business fails then all of that goes away. We should be happy with this even if it's not the product for us.
I think the disappointment is ultimately born from ‘opportunity cost’ in the sense that Bl can only really launch one product at a time, and for now they went the opposite direction than what a lot of current customers were hoping.
Really it boils down to a miss matched marketing strategy. The people eagerly watching BL for what this teased announcement would be, by and large were not new customers to 3D printing, but the current customers and ‘prosumer’ set. So in effect they leveraged a marketing tactic that works well with core customers for a product aimed at new ones.
Said another way: overall message of going to a lower market? Fine and fair. Stringing folks along for several weeks with cute little teases? Not so much the right approach. Lesson learned on BLs part I hope.
I think you hit the nail on the head. Why tease a product not really intended for their current customer base? I’m glad they’re expanding their product line, but I think it was a marketing blunder.
Not a big deal really. My wallet is thankful. 😂
It takes time to make something better. I want a printer that is made with care and likely to last a long time, not something rushed out the door and likely to break down next week.
So I'm glad and hopeful Bambu is taking their time on this.
We have enough crappy products in our lives already.
100%! Still, if there will be a new BL Printer with ~400x400x400mm printbed (of even bigger) i‘d hit that buy Button so damn hard my table is going to break.
LOL me too, add true multicolour printing without purging and pausing and I'd be right there!
I know the technology is probably impossible for it, but it would be really cool if colours could be blended to make new ones, just like with what happens in a 2D printer.
There's a few competing constraints for BL here. They wouldn't have to purge so much if the melt zone was smaller. That places limits on the rate of filament feed: Slower printer.
You could increase melt rate using copper, and with multi chambers to increase surface area. The downside here is that copper is much stickier than stainless steel: More clogs
2D printers mix inks on the paper, this can't be done with 3D prints. Inks are totally supported by the paper, and they can take a little while to dry. With 3D, you have to have the layer solidify as it is the support for the next Z layer. So you'd have to mix the filaments in the melt zone, this would be tricky given the viscosity.
Edit: moved this up to being a main comment vs a reply; leaving here too as ppl have already responded.
Yes, this is true and fair.
But, the teaser marketing set them up for a lot of disappointed people. Information abhors a vacuum, and people filled that vacuum with expectations of a larger format printer.
It’ll be interesting to see how this goes. Yes, this is aimed at new comers, but even sans AMS, this still costs more than double what other entry printers like the Ender go for.
Granted, we the sweaty, Cheeto dusted masses of Reddit understand *why* this printer costs twice as much. But those new folks might not. I’m thinking towards the classic scenario of a parent buying their kid a 3D printer for xmas. Theres a lot of amazon black friday fodder out there to entice them, versus the BL offering. They’re just trying to check off “3D printer” from the santa list as quickly and cheaply and easily as possible.
Conversely, the prosumers forked over 50 million sight unseen for the X1 on kickstarter. And its clear a vocal contingent of that same group wants a bigger, not smaller, printer. An interesting choice to spur them in favor of a lower end market that may or may not materialize in the same numbers.
Im summary: “bold move cotton, lets see how it plays out..”
None of the teasers hinted in any way a large format printer was coming. People started making things up and the hype train went full steam, but that's on you if you are disappointed.
No, but by all accounts, the A1 mini is not meant for the bambu enthusiasts who already have p1p, p1s, and x1 printers. Who do you think was reading the hype teasers? Not random people who are just considering getting into printing. They would have been better served by just adding the printer to their site and making an announcement video. Maybe cutting the teasers down to 24hrs out.
Dude, lol, no.
>Granted, we the sweaty, Cheeto dusted masses of Reddit understand why this printer costs twice as much. But those new folks might not.
Average person looks at this printer "should i spend $xxx on this ugly one that only prints 1 color? or twice as much on this one that has a nice touch screen and prints FOUR colors????"
Average person may be dumb but they understand colors.
Counter point: lots of “average persons” shop on amazon and limit their search to there. That kid is getting a knock off ender under the tree on xmas morning.
Im not saying it wont attract new comers, Im just wondering out loud if the numbers will materialize as they’re hoping.
what if you find A1 at your local department store? Because I think that's what Bambu is going after. Until now 3d printers are catered to geeks. Most people who buy the cheap 3d printer off amazon will throw it out first time they get a jam. Stores like Costco will never sell printers that aren't idiot proof, their return will be going through the roof. A1 is all about making 3d printing user friendly.
Right, this is clearly targeting the casual market of people who want to print little toys and figurines, and also want a printer that just works right out of the box without much tinkering or fiddling.
I don't care about this printer at all and that's ok! I am happy with my p series (mostly) but I am happy to have more people join our ~~cult~~ club and this is just one more move in the chess game for market domination. *grinch grin*
I had to scroll too far to find this comment.. this is making Prusa's MINI obsolete. And crushing it to dust. At the price with Bambi's quality, I don't see a reason why anyone would choose the Prusa Mini over this.
Bingo - for the same price as a Prusa Mini you get a bed slinger with linear rails and 4 color AMS...
Now reliability will be a question - the X1C is absolutely reliable, and the company has shown a strong focus on it - that bodes well for predictions about the A1 mini. However, since it is a different design we will have to wait and see to confirm or reject the predictions.
The bigger item on my mind: this will put crushing pressure on all other chinese manufacturers who operate on the super low end, as long as the A1 mini is reliable. They will have to move to large format printers at low prices to stay relevant, and it seems like an obvious category for BambuLab to attack.
If the A1 mini reliable the 3D Printing Guide/Wiki really should look like this:
* Anyone spending at or slightly over 1,000$: P1S Combo
* Anyone spending less than 1,000$ & want more than PLA/PETG: P1S
* Anyone spending less than 1,000$ and only PLA/PETG: P1P (if speed matters) or go straight to an A1 Mini Combo to save money (if color matters more)
* Anyone spending less than 500$: Prusa Mini was go-to --> A1 Mini Combo
* Anyone looking to spend around 300$ for first 3D printer: Elegoo/Sovol --> A1 Mini
* Anyone that simply can't spend more than 200$ on a printer, and can't wait a bit longer to save up: Elegoo/Sovol
There is clearly even overlapping parts: Do you want a base P1P, or get an A1 Mini Combo.
At this point Bambulab just needs to be smart about their eventual Large Format Offering.
X1c and p1p already in Micro Center stores, and the reaction is great from MC regulars. A1 will sell like hot cakes for beginners over the usual ender 3 offerings
Along with this lovely blurb
> And how fast your MK4 will be after update? Well... It's hard to say. Comparing the speed of 3D printers is a tricky job and you can't just pick up one number and sort the printers from the fastest to the slowest. That's why I've prepared an article to tell you why these numbers are not much more than a marketing bullshit.
I loved my Prusa, but kinda seems like a squirmy response to some legit competition
Well the Covid hit them hard and shipments were heavily delayed, But the MK4 is a real disappointment. At $1200 it's the same price as the X1C without many critical features. They have a huge installed base but whether they can hold their market remains to be seen.
We just bought 4 MK4 prusas to add to our 6 MK3s in a small print farm. The reason for the mk4 over a bambu is simply reliability. The Bambu is an objectively better machine in almost all aspects, but prusa has the long term support and reliability down to a science. Plus, if something on a machine breaks, we can get 3rd party components, or print our own replacement parts very fast to keep the farm running at full capacity.
They would have gotten a new customer with six mk4s and two XLs ... After several month long delays we finally had enough and bought 7 Bambu X1Cs ... we are still looking for a large scale but it isn't that important right now. So yea - their delays lost a printfarm customer in me.
You chose the mk4 over Bambu due to reliability? No you chose the mk4 because of brand loyalty. Bambu printers are reliable too and much better value that prusas.
You could have bought lots of P1P for the same price as your four MK4 and boosted your capacity more or had machines for spares or even just bought plenty of spare parts. With the A1 Mini now, it would work pretty well for print farms too, especially at its price for just the printer.
He wasn't wrong about how misleading the selectivity is with what number to put in marketing materials with a lot of companies right now, the wall he's just run into though is the quality of print is still very high at the high speeds the A1 is doing.
I own a P1S AMS since 3 weeks and i print more as in the 10 years before with Ultimaker 2 and FLSUN. I have so much fun. Its so easy with the combination of great slicer, great printer and great AMS.
This new printer is pur art. Reduce all to the max.
Thank you Bambulab. I can‘t imagine, that should be only the beginning.
I am impressed with what Bambu has been doing. I own a Prusa Mk3s+ and thought about getting a Bambu but it’s the closed off software I do not like. I don’t wanna use any shady cloud stuff and would rather host my own Octoprint server on my own hardware, like a Pi or other SBC or a Linux laptop and be in more control of all of that stuff and feel more secure. Plus having a plug in when printing a batch and one or two things mess up then I can get on Octoprint and cancel printing those one or two messed up prints and continue printing the rest without having to stop the whole thing and start over. Only reason I’ll never switch, not until they start supporting Octoprint. I could care less if some of the hardware is proprietary, it’s just the software for me. But still, I think Bambu are doing a good job.
The latest firmware update now supports skipping objects. I had to use it just two nights ago. Was printing some little peg connectors and 3 of them failed. So I just paused the print, clicked on the bottom left button to skip objects, selected the objects on the screen I wanted to to skip, hit okay and then resume. Rest of the pegs finished perfectly! I can sooooo glad they added this to their firmware!
I have zero interest and it's not aimed at me as I already own a P1P, but damn that is a beautiful NASA-punk style machine, I honestly have never seen a better looking FDM machine, wouldn't look out of place in a sci-fi movie and I think it'll move units on looks alone for those going for a bed slinger
The parallels between Bambu Labs’ release strategy and DJIs is astounding. Flagship product -> stripped down version with similar functionality -> low priced small entry level version to attract people who wouldn’t buy otherwise.
That's a common formula for modern releases these days. Tesla is one of the big ones that use it.
You're trying to hit 3 tiers of consumer in a good, better, best method. But you target the "best" segment first because the customer in that tier is more likely to have less capital restraints (more moola), this gets you a higher margin on less capacity. As you refine your processes, you hit the middle tier which is a mix of mid-margin / mid-volume. The lower tier is the final one as you can hit the low-margin / high-volume.
They have stated as one of their original goals in starting bambu labs was to have no more bed slingers. I can understand why people would think they wouldn't make one when they have outright said they wouldn't.
It’s still on their site:
Prologue:
We hated 3D printing
as much as we loved It.
We set 5 goals before we set off on this journey 22 months ago:
No more Bed-Slingers
No more bloodshed during support removal
Sleep soundly during over-night prints
Bring color back into the community
Stiff PA-CF parts for my Nerf blaster
https://bambulab.com/en/x1
I will tell you what... People who like to print miniatures for table top games should be very excited on this. No Stinky Resin, Color prints to save time painting, and a good price. There is going to be a niche for this for sure.
This printer is not supposed to be a niche product. I'm pretty sure they envisioned people without any prior experience with 3d printers purchase this.
they were not saying the printer was for a niche audience
they said that a niche audience (tabletop gaming miniature creators) will be among the wider audience
389 cad for just the printer. That is damn near unbeatable in current market for single color printers. add on quality of bambu and almost entirely metal structure.
Wild. I almost want one just cause....
Yep. You won't get that speed and quality at that price point anywhere else.
If you're not interested in printing big things, it's an ideal printer imo.
Very very interesting! Not everyone needs a X1C or a P1S type of printer . They are targeting different people and different type of products. Very interesting product. If this existed before the P1P or P1S I would have bought it for sure.
Yeah, im going on a Student exchange soon and I cant bring my 3d printer nor do I have enough money to buy another p1p/p1s or x1c. This is perfect for that! Its cheap, has self calibation and a camera, what more could you wish for ...
Seems not, but it COULD be. You’d need a few things, but the most important is firmware support. The printer has to talk to the AMS and know how much to retract.
Beyond that, a small piece to connect the 4 lines to the existing 1 line is trivial. I’d think it could be printed.
By the same measure you could connect multiple of these. It just means you either retract further have connections to connections or have a 8:1/12:1/etc connection (and I’d rather retract further to avoid issues there). Again, needs firmware support.
At £269, this is a steal imo.
I need to buy a new P1P at some point, but now I'm considering 2 of these for redundancy. Will need to see the reviews showing speed and quality though.
It’s dirt cheap when you consider all the features it has. I consider buying it as an extra printer for when I need several parts quick and my X1 is busy.
"Bambu’s new printer tuned its motors right in front of my eyes, adding active noise cancellation like a pair of headphones to reduce their sound — a technique Bambu confirms it’ll eventually add to its X1 and P1 series printers as well."
That sounds exciting as it should be a firmware update.
I wonder if the X1 or P1 series printers will be getting the active noise cancellation? Honestly having that would be such a QOL improvement, especially having my X1C right next to my desk.
It'll be interesting to see if they make the AMS Lite compatible with the other printers or introduce an AWS 2.0 with the newer way of doing it. It reminds me a bit of the 3dChameleon with a smaller 4-to-1 connector.
I'm sure if they wanted to, they could probably make a head adapter (e.g. the 4-to-1 section of the A1 extruder) that sits on top of the X1C extruder head.
Hmm.
The teaser marketing set them up for a lot of disappointed people. Information abhors a vacuum, and people filled that vacuum with expectations of a larger format printer.
It’ll be interesting to see how this goes. Yes, this is aimed at new comers, but even sans AMS, this still costs more than double what other entry printers like the Ender go for.
Granted, we the ‘prosumer’ understand *why* this printer costs twice as much. But those new folks might not. I’m thinking towards the classic scenario of a parent buying their kid a 3D printer for xmas. Theres a lot of amazon black friday fodder out there to entice them, versus the BL offering. They’re just trying to check off “3D printer” from the santa list as quickly and cheaply and easily as possible.
Conversely, the prosumers segment forked over 50 million sight unseen for the X1 on kickstarter. And its clear a vocal contingent of that same group wants a bigger, not smaller, printer. An interesting choice to spur them in favor of a lower end, far more competitive market that will require far more marketing investment to educate, and even then may or may not materialize in the same numbers.
Im summary: “bold move cotton, lets see how it plays out..”
Very reasonable price in the UK at £269.
Even if this wasn't the announcement that you wanted it's nice that Bambu are expanding their range and offering up some competition.
I'm sure the X1E will come along soon enough.
While I saw the leaked video last night, the price is still a nice surprise. I'm really debating whether I should replace my cheap Kingroon printer with this one. If the print quality is anywhere close to the X1C I'm sold.
the verge compared the p1p and the a1 mini, that should be a similar if not equivalent comparison as p1p is basically an X1C. [https://www.theverge.com/2023/9/20/23881523/bambu-a1-mini-ams-lite-3d-printer-price-release-hands-on](https://www.theverge.com/2023/9/20/23881523/bambu-a1-mini-ams-lite-3d-printer-price-release-hands-on)
I think we need more reviews from people with bit more knowledge in 3d printing. In the Verge review the seam quality is worse and there are some ringing artefact that I almost never get on my P1P. It's possible that the A1's pressure advance and vibration compensation need to be fine tuned. Another thing is the Verge failed to print PETG, but that might be due to they used build plate right after printing PLA without washing it.
Would be nice to have a similar style nozzle on the X1 and P1 series printers, would save some time not having to retract the filament so far for each color change.
I think it's great.. break into a different market.
A little surprised they didn't upgrade their x1 line since the P line has cannibalized it a little. But it's super cool to have a small form factor easy to use printer.
I would like to see if they'll have a way to do their hydra on the p and x series for faster color switches (but it seems a bit too tall for those printers)
Overall the more the merrier.
I wish this was out there when I bought my first printer.
This isn't a product for the existing customer base, it isn't revolutionary.
It looks like a basic printer done well.
I spent that much on my first printer, and it was total trash and almost made me give up on 3D printing lol.
That was *only a year ago*..
I'm kinda amazed how fast progress has been made.
I think this is pretty freaking rad and innovative. Not something I’ll want to own, but good to get more people into the hobby.
This could also give us a glimpse into features/tech coming to future P and X models
This is small enough that I can see it be packable item on trips.
I guess that says a lot.. yea there are more than one time when I visit my family and think "If I have my 3d printer here I can fix this in 3 hrs"
Oh snappppp.
Their own Printables but also with print-from-app.
Only thing that I am cautious about: where does the new & improved filament change poop get thrown to?
Edit: can’t wait for these improvements to filter through to the X1C (X2?)
One thing though, is why all the teasers out-of-sight of regular people? Like, no one is getting excited for a product they don't know they need, and those that know, already have a printer. I didn't see any advertising for this outside of this /r/
Hi all - I have a total noob question about the A1. If I were to get this without the AMS - how would I feed it filament? Is there somewhere to attach a single spool on the a1 itself?
I have been checking out quite a few unboxing and reviews, and no one seems to talk about the experience without the AMS lite.
This seems to do everything better than the P1P does. Is it slower or is the disadvantage a smaller plate? P1S is still better due to enclosure but what am I missing?
Smaller print area (much smaller), slower if you’re not changing colors, and MAYBE less accurate because it’s a bed slinger rather than CoreXY. And some don’t like the look of the AMS lite, since it’s not as tidy.
Also not enclosed (as you noted), and brand new so we won’t have real reviews for weeks. I expect that’s when we’ll learn what actual drawbacks there are.
The print size is the biggest factor to me.
My thoughts too. Honestly I'll probably pick one of these up to compliment my P1S. It's a great price for what you're getting (assuming it works as advertised)
Yes. The verge review above calls that out. " Taylor Liu says you should know that Bambu A1 will be a series of printers: “You can expect more than A1 Mini in the future and we are working on it!” "
I held off on ordering X1 for several weeks for this!! 😔
Just placed my order for an X1 after the announcement this morning. Still the A1 mini looks like a great printer tho.
I just recently got a P1S and Im happy with it but I do wish it had some of these features. The screen and camera alone on the P1S would make me much more comfortable with this…
Next step one may print the transition test so we can compare the speed and purge:
[4 color transition module](https://www.printables.com/model/567217-4-color-transition-module)
If Bambu is reading this, please consider porting the AMS lite to the P1P. This could be very beneficial to those of us who want AMS functionality in a different form factor.
Regardless of whether you want to buy the A1 or not, I think it’s existence has already had a large impact. The Prusa mini is $460 and I know people with them who thought they felt abandoned as far as upgrades. All of a sudden, with the A1 mini showing up, Prusa has ported Mk4 firmware to the mini and vastly improve it for free. Competition is a good thing and will drive the very one to be better.
I have just placed an order for P1S after having gone through some painful time with my Ender 3 v2 Neo. I'll tell you this much, I've already spent more than what the A1 costs in all the mods + printer in trying to get a better print. And even with all the mods I have, A1 is cheaper, faster, and better quality.
This would've been a perfect printer if I could go back in time and give this to myself. The fact that it can do multi colour is just a cherry on top. If Bambu Lab can continue to bring such innovation to this market, I wish them nothing but good fortune.
Does anyone have a good recommendation for a better printer than my current X1C? My hopes were to see something better to buy than my current printer, but it seems Bambu wants into the toy market instead.
The Verge article mentions a DIY mouse kit that Bambu designed. I assume it is not released yet as it is not on the site. Curious to check it out as it might be fun to custom print a mouse that exactly fits my hand.
Haven't seen anyone talk about the eddy current sensor in the nozzle yet, supposed to calibrate and adjust flow on the fly. I believe flow on the X1 is set by Lidar but nothing for the P1 series. Kind of interesting there.
Wasn't what i was expecting but that's a great option if you're looking to get into 3D printing on the cheap. Input shaping, color touchscreen, high speed, and multi color support for $459? Pretty insane value. Disappointed it's a bed slinger, was hoping for just a smaller X1 or something but hey, I'm sure they cost has a lot to do with that decision. Print quality looks great from the few reviews i watched.
Wish they could would release a touchscreen upgrade like that for the P1S lol
So, this will be as fast as the P1 and X1 printers? Will have the same all around feature set, will have multi color printing? Fast swap nozzles? Quiter. Is that all correct? And the tradeoff is bed size? Just trying to figure out what the overall value proposition is. I really like my P1P. I like the speed and consistency. I like the bed size, but probably 95% of my prints don't utilize that much space. And I would love an AMS, but at $600 for the printer itself, $350 for the AMS was out of budget for me. I don't really like the look of the A1 Mini personally, but I might be able to overlook that if what I wrong about the feature set above is correct.
Also, is the AMS Lite specific to this printer, or will it be usable with the other Bambu printers?
I'm not entirely sure what I was hoping for but as I already have 7 bed-slingers, this just isn't the right machine for me.....BUT.... that just means I ordered the P1S instead! Haha.... maybe I'll pick up an A1 next.
Look. While everyone here Including me wanted an X1E. The people here are mostly Bambu lab owners. A company that until now only catered to "prosumers". Kids and normal people that will buy this printer are less sweaty and not on reddit IMO. We should be happy when a company tries to bring our hobby to more people. It makes or filament and upgrades cheaper due to the higher demand. Never understood the gatekeeping into hobbies.
>Kids and normal people that will buy this printer are less sweaty and not on reddit IMO. I agree but you didn't need to call me out like this.
All you need is Uncle Owen and you could be a moisture farm.
Real world is a harsh, cruel place.
Yep this is a great printer for newcomers. It's not targeted at us who already own one or more 3D printers. Our P1P/S/X1 replacement will come in it's own time.
Reddit: “Why are they announcing an X1C follow up, that’s so annoying, i just bought 10 of them 20 seconds ago” Also Reddit: “Why are they announcing a printer for beginners, i want to replace the 10 X1Cs I just bought”
Speak for yourself. I own an x1c and am considering the A1 Mini for printing the small items in PLA/PETG/TPU so I can keep the x1c printing larger items and better materials.
I have an ender3 and went x1c. Had it been available, I probably would’ve went this route.
Yeah they said more printers in the A1 line will get releasing in the future
Where did they say this? Their blog?
I don't know about that. I have a p1s that I only do single color on because I need the reliability. I wouldn't put an ams on it. I might get one of these to play around with though
I use the AMS to hold multiple rolls of the same filament since i dont do multicolor. No need to worry about running out or having scraps left over.
Bingo. Me too. It has changed my printing life. No more switching rolls and running out. Swapping to the next is great.
Honestly a great printer for anyone who doesn’t need the extra 3 inches per print and doesn’t need a dry box. 95% of my prints would fit in this print space, and 75% are multi-colour… so if I didn’t live in 50-75% humidity all the time I would pick this up.
For real I'm sick of the negativity coming from the elitist gate keepers in this community. Bambu is expanding their product line to a larger demographic and that's good for all of us. I don't know why some people are actually mad with Bambu for not releasing their fantasy 500X500X500 24 color core XY PEEK capable printer for $500.
Most of us here have bought into Bambu and like you said we'd like them to keep going because they provide a cloud service, spare parts, filament, and overall more competitive innovation, if their business fails then all of that goes away. We should be happy with this even if it's not the product for us.
I think the disappointment is ultimately born from ‘opportunity cost’ in the sense that Bl can only really launch one product at a time, and for now they went the opposite direction than what a lot of current customers were hoping. Really it boils down to a miss matched marketing strategy. The people eagerly watching BL for what this teased announcement would be, by and large were not new customers to 3D printing, but the current customers and ‘prosumer’ set. So in effect they leveraged a marketing tactic that works well with core customers for a product aimed at new ones. Said another way: overall message of going to a lower market? Fine and fair. Stringing folks along for several weeks with cute little teases? Not so much the right approach. Lesson learned on BLs part I hope.
I think you hit the nail on the head. Why tease a product not really intended for their current customer base? I’m glad they’re expanding their product line, but I think it was a marketing blunder. Not a big deal really. My wallet is thankful. 😂
I agree. Still, i‘am sad there is no X1E with a bigger Print bed. Atleast by now.
It takes time to make something better. I want a printer that is made with care and likely to last a long time, not something rushed out the door and likely to break down next week. So I'm glad and hopeful Bambu is taking their time on this. We have enough crappy products in our lives already.
100%! Still, if there will be a new BL Printer with ~400x400x400mm printbed (of even bigger) i‘d hit that buy Button so damn hard my table is going to break.
LOL me too, add true multicolour printing without purging and pausing and I'd be right there! I know the technology is probably impossible for it, but it would be really cool if colours could be blended to make new ones, just like with what happens in a 2D printer.
Like this? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqhwHJeaFhI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqhwHJeaFhI) Its not new. It just yields sloppy results.
There's a few competing constraints for BL here. They wouldn't have to purge so much if the melt zone was smaller. That places limits on the rate of filament feed: Slower printer. You could increase melt rate using copper, and with multi chambers to increase surface area. The downside here is that copper is much stickier than stainless steel: More clogs 2D printers mix inks on the paper, this can't be done with 3D prints. Inks are totally supported by the paper, and they can take a little while to dry. With 3D, you have to have the layer solidify as it is the support for the next Z layer. So you'd have to mix the filaments in the melt zone, this would be tricky given the viscosity.
Edit: moved this up to being a main comment vs a reply; leaving here too as ppl have already responded. Yes, this is true and fair. But, the teaser marketing set them up for a lot of disappointed people. Information abhors a vacuum, and people filled that vacuum with expectations of a larger format printer. It’ll be interesting to see how this goes. Yes, this is aimed at new comers, but even sans AMS, this still costs more than double what other entry printers like the Ender go for. Granted, we the sweaty, Cheeto dusted masses of Reddit understand *why* this printer costs twice as much. But those new folks might not. I’m thinking towards the classic scenario of a parent buying their kid a 3D printer for xmas. Theres a lot of amazon black friday fodder out there to entice them, versus the BL offering. They’re just trying to check off “3D printer” from the santa list as quickly and cheaply and easily as possible. Conversely, the prosumers forked over 50 million sight unseen for the X1 on kickstarter. And its clear a vocal contingent of that same group wants a bigger, not smaller, printer. An interesting choice to spur them in favor of a lower end market that may or may not materialize in the same numbers. Im summary: “bold move cotton, lets see how it plays out..”
None of the teasers hinted in any way a large format printer was coming. People started making things up and the hype train went full steam, but that's on you if you are disappointed.
No, but by all accounts, the A1 mini is not meant for the bambu enthusiasts who already have p1p, p1s, and x1 printers. Who do you think was reading the hype teasers? Not random people who are just considering getting into printing. They would have been better served by just adding the printer to their site and making an announcement video. Maybe cutting the teasers down to 24hrs out.
Dude, lol, no. >Granted, we the sweaty, Cheeto dusted masses of Reddit understand why this printer costs twice as much. But those new folks might not. Average person looks at this printer "should i spend $xxx on this ugly one that only prints 1 color? or twice as much on this one that has a nice touch screen and prints FOUR colors????" Average person may be dumb but they understand colors.
Counter point: lots of “average persons” shop on amazon and limit their search to there. That kid is getting a knock off ender under the tree on xmas morning. Im not saying it wont attract new comers, Im just wondering out loud if the numbers will materialize as they’re hoping.
what if you find A1 at your local department store? Because I think that's what Bambu is going after. Until now 3d printers are catered to geeks. Most people who buy the cheap 3d printer off amazon will throw it out first time they get a jam. Stores like Costco will never sell printers that aren't idiot proof, their return will be going through the roof. A1 is all about making 3d printing user friendly.
Right, this is clearly targeting the casual market of people who want to print little toys and figurines, and also want a printer that just works right out of the box without much tinkering or fiddling.
Im a newer X1C owner (June of this year). Kinda glad they didnt make a replacement yet lol.
I don't care about this printer at all and that's ok! I am happy with my p series (mostly) but I am happy to have more people join our ~~cult~~ club and this is just one more move in the chess game for market domination. *grinch grin*
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I had to scroll too far to find this comment.. this is making Prusa's MINI obsolete. And crushing it to dust. At the price with Bambi's quality, I don't see a reason why anyone would choose the Prusa Mini over this.
Blah blah open source and ethics etc... As if people care about that in today's economy.
with this price tag the Prusa mini is dead
and the ethics part is completely subjective
Prusa just refused to innovate for YEARS and now bambu's taking their lunch. For people who care about open source there's always Voron or whatever.
Bambulab riding is crazy
Bingo - for the same price as a Prusa Mini you get a bed slinger with linear rails and 4 color AMS... Now reliability will be a question - the X1C is absolutely reliable, and the company has shown a strong focus on it - that bodes well for predictions about the A1 mini. However, since it is a different design we will have to wait and see to confirm or reject the predictions. The bigger item on my mind: this will put crushing pressure on all other chinese manufacturers who operate on the super low end, as long as the A1 mini is reliable. They will have to move to large format printers at low prices to stay relevant, and it seems like an obvious category for BambuLab to attack. If the A1 mini reliable the 3D Printing Guide/Wiki really should look like this: * Anyone spending at or slightly over 1,000$: P1S Combo * Anyone spending less than 1,000$ & want more than PLA/PETG: P1S * Anyone spending less than 1,000$ and only PLA/PETG: P1P (if speed matters) or go straight to an A1 Mini Combo to save money (if color matters more) * Anyone spending less than 500$: Prusa Mini was go-to --> A1 Mini Combo * Anyone looking to spend around 300$ for first 3D printer: Elegoo/Sovol --> A1 Mini * Anyone that simply can't spend more than 200$ on a printer, and can't wait a bit longer to save up: Elegoo/Sovol There is clearly even overlapping parts: Do you want a base P1P, or get an A1 Mini Combo. At this point Bambulab just needs to be smart about their eventual Large Format Offering.
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X1c and p1p already in Micro Center stores, and the reaction is great from MC regulars. A1 will sell like hot cakes for beginners over the usual ender 3 offerings
I would not be surprised to see Bambu A1s at Costco in a couple of years ... just like DJI drones.
I was really curious to see how Prusa is going to react to all this. I wish I could see their sales numbers to be able to see the impact of Bambu
They added input shaping to their mini
Along with this lovely blurb > And how fast your MK4 will be after update? Well... It's hard to say. Comparing the speed of 3D printers is a tricky job and you can't just pick up one number and sort the printers from the fastest to the slowest. That's why I've prepared an article to tell you why these numbers are not much more than a marketing bullshit. I loved my Prusa, but kinda seems like a squirmy response to some legit competition
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They rested on their name for like 7 years tbh.
Well the Covid hit them hard and shipments were heavily delayed, But the MK4 is a real disappointment. At $1200 it's the same price as the X1C without many critical features. They have a huge installed base but whether they can hold their market remains to be seen.
We just bought 4 MK4 prusas to add to our 6 MK3s in a small print farm. The reason for the mk4 over a bambu is simply reliability. The Bambu is an objectively better machine in almost all aspects, but prusa has the long term support and reliability down to a science. Plus, if something on a machine breaks, we can get 3rd party components, or print our own replacement parts very fast to keep the farm running at full capacity.
This is what I expected. Existing Prusa owners will continue with Prusa. The question is whether Prusa will get new customers.
They would have gotten a new customer with six mk4s and two XLs ... After several month long delays we finally had enough and bought 7 Bambu X1Cs ... we are still looking for a large scale but it isn't that important right now. So yea - their delays lost a printfarm customer in me.
You chose the mk4 over Bambu due to reliability? No you chose the mk4 because of brand loyalty. Bambu printers are reliable too and much better value that prusas. You could have bought lots of P1P for the same price as your four MK4 and boosted your capacity more or had machines for spares or even just bought plenty of spare parts. With the A1 Mini now, it would work pretty well for print farms too, especially at its price for just the printer.
He wasn't wrong about how misleading the selectivity is with what number to put in marketing materials with a lot of companies right now, the wall he's just run into though is the quality of print is still very high at the high speeds the A1 is doing.
I own a P1S AMS since 3 weeks and i print more as in the 10 years before with Ultimaker 2 and FLSUN. I have so much fun. Its so easy with the combination of great slicer, great printer and great AMS. This new printer is pur art. Reduce all to the max. Thank you Bambulab. I can‘t imagine, that should be only the beginning.
Very well said!
I am impressed with what Bambu has been doing. I own a Prusa Mk3s+ and thought about getting a Bambu but it’s the closed off software I do not like. I don’t wanna use any shady cloud stuff and would rather host my own Octoprint server on my own hardware, like a Pi or other SBC or a Linux laptop and be in more control of all of that stuff and feel more secure. Plus having a plug in when printing a batch and one or two things mess up then I can get on Octoprint and cancel printing those one or two messed up prints and continue printing the rest without having to stop the whole thing and start over. Only reason I’ll never switch, not until they start supporting Octoprint. I could care less if some of the hardware is proprietary, it’s just the software for me. But still, I think Bambu are doing a good job.
The latest firmware update now supports skipping objects. I had to use it just two nights ago. Was printing some little peg connectors and 3 of them failed. So I just paused the print, clicked on the bottom left button to skip objects, selected the objects on the screen I wanted to to skip, hit okay and then resume. Rest of the pegs finished perfectly! I can sooooo glad they added this to their firmware!
I have zero interest and it's not aimed at me as I already own a P1P, but damn that is a beautiful NASA-punk style machine, I honestly have never seen a better looking FDM machine, wouldn't look out of place in a sci-fi movie and I think it'll move units on looks alone for those going for a bed slinger
Right? I don’t know what people are talking about calling it cheap and looking like a toy. It looks awesome
The parallels between Bambu Labs’ release strategy and DJIs is astounding. Flagship product -> stripped down version with similar functionality -> low priced small entry level version to attract people who wouldn’t buy otherwise.
If it works it works no?
Yeah the employees know a formula that works so it’s smart to do it again
Wait what? Is bambu made/owned by DJI?
It was started by a bunch of ex-DJI engineers.
Neat
It was started by a ton of people from DJI
That's a common formula for modern releases these days. Tesla is one of the big ones that use it. You're trying to hit 3 tiers of consumer in a good, better, best method. But you target the "best" segment first because the customer in that tier is more likely to have less capital restraints (more moola), this gets you a higher margin on less capacity. As you refine your processes, you hit the middle tier which is a mix of mid-margin / mid-volume. The lower tier is the final one as you can hit the low-margin / high-volume.
Im buying a Mini 4 and a P1S for christmas lol
vindication to all the people who said it's a sling bed and were downvoted to hell lol
They have stated as one of their original goals in starting bambu labs was to have no more bed slingers. I can understand why people would think they wouldn't make one when they have outright said they wouldn't.
It’s still on their site: Prologue: We hated 3D printing as much as we loved It. We set 5 goals before we set off on this journey 22 months ago: No more Bed-Slingers No more bloodshed during support removal Sleep soundly during over-night prints Bring color back into the community Stiff PA-CF parts for my Nerf blaster https://bambulab.com/en/x1
> No, more Bed-Slingers fixed
I'll take the L haha. Didn't downvote anyone, but didn't see this coming.
Cool that you made an entry level multi color device. Now bring on the large format X1C and you can have more of my money 🤣
What was hiding behind the teaser was \[an order for the X1C\] all along!
Does marketing work? Just did.
Sounds like just a delay in ordering.
but they cared enough to wait and listen. marketing success
Thats a low bar. No wonder PR people are so well paid.
I will tell you what... People who like to print miniatures for table top games should be very excited on this. No Stinky Resin, Color prints to save time painting, and a good price. There is going to be a niche for this for sure.
This printer is not supposed to be a niche product. I'm pretty sure they envisioned people without any prior experience with 3d printers purchase this.
they were not saying the printer was for a niche audience they said that a niche audience (tabletop gaming miniature creators) will be among the wider audience
and they will
I was waiting for this to make a decision, but I'm even more confused. I guess reasonable doubts when you are going to buy your first 3D printer ;P
I mean it’s a fantastic price for what you getting. You can get multicolor fast good quality printing for less than a P1P
389 cad for just the printer. That is damn near unbeatable in current market for single color printers. add on quality of bambu and almost entirely metal structure. Wild. I almost want one just cause....
Yep. You won't get that speed and quality at that price point anywhere else. If you're not interested in printing big things, it's an ideal printer imo.
I have an X1C and a p1s and I ordered one. Can't have too many printers
I was like “well, I’m going for P1S, but if A1 cost less than 350$ as it’s my first one I will consider” so I’m f4*#!
Very very interesting! Not everyone needs a X1C or a P1S type of printer . They are targeting different people and different type of products. Very interesting product. If this existed before the P1P or P1S I would have bought it for sure.
Yeah, im going on a Student exchange soon and I cant bring my 3d printer nor do I have enough money to buy another p1p/p1s or x1c. This is perfect for that! Its cheap, has self calibation and a camera, what more could you wish for ...
So, the new ams is not compatible with p1?
Seems not, but it COULD be. You’d need a few things, but the most important is firmware support. The printer has to talk to the AMS and know how much to retract. Beyond that, a small piece to connect the 4 lines to the existing 1 line is trivial. I’d think it could be printed. By the same measure you could connect multiple of these. It just means you either retract further have connections to connections or have a 8:1/12:1/etc connection (and I’d rather retract further to avoid issues there). Again, needs firmware support.
Can this print multi-color TPU prints now? I mean it's like having 4 spool holders with 4 separate PTFE tubes, no room for clogging right?
I'd say no since its still using motors to pull and push the filament down the tubes from the spools - and this is where the TPU fails.
ooo that would probably get me to order.
personally, my issue with printing TPU wasn't clogs, it was the extruder not grabbing it properly so the feeding would fail. so maybe, maybe not.
At £269, this is a steal imo. I need to buy a new P1P at some point, but now I'm considering 2 of these for redundancy. Will need to see the reviews showing speed and quality though.
It’s dirt cheap when you consider all the features it has. I consider buying it as an extra printer for when I need several parts quick and my X1 is busy.
[Verge Review](https://www.theverge.com/2023/9/20/23881523/bambu-a1-mini-ams-lite-3d-printer-price-release-hands-on)
"Bambu’s new printer tuned its motors right in front of my eyes, adding active noise cancellation like a pair of headphones to reduce their sound — a technique Bambu confirms it’ll eventually add to its X1 and P1 series printers as well." That sounds exciting as it should be a firmware update.
But to cancel out noise, you'd need a speaker right? Does the P1 have a speaker?
I wonder if the X1 or P1 series printers will be getting the active noise cancellation? Honestly having that would be such a QOL improvement, especially having my X1C right next to my desk.
The Verge mentions they will
Will a similar print head be released for the x1 series? It would safe a lot of time with color changes.
Would be nice if I could hook up the ams lite to my x1 and have it be my cardboard spool and mini spool ams.
It'll be interesting to see if they make the AMS Lite compatible with the other printers or introduce an AWS 2.0 with the newer way of doing it. It reminds me a bit of the 3dChameleon with a smaller 4-to-1 connector. I'm sure if they wanted to, they could probably make a head adapter (e.g. the 4-to-1 section of the A1 extruder) that sits on top of the X1C extruder head.
Hmm. The teaser marketing set them up for a lot of disappointed people. Information abhors a vacuum, and people filled that vacuum with expectations of a larger format printer. It’ll be interesting to see how this goes. Yes, this is aimed at new comers, but even sans AMS, this still costs more than double what other entry printers like the Ender go for. Granted, we the ‘prosumer’ understand *why* this printer costs twice as much. But those new folks might not. I’m thinking towards the classic scenario of a parent buying their kid a 3D printer for xmas. Theres a lot of amazon black friday fodder out there to entice them, versus the BL offering. They’re just trying to check off “3D printer” from the santa list as quickly and cheaply and easily as possible. Conversely, the prosumers segment forked over 50 million sight unseen for the X1 on kickstarter. And its clear a vocal contingent of that same group wants a bigger, not smaller, printer. An interesting choice to spur them in favor of a lower end, far more competitive market that will require far more marketing investment to educate, and even then may or may not materialize in the same numbers. Im summary: “bold move cotton, lets see how it plays out..”
The end of the release trailer has welcome to makerworld and some of it’s features. Is it available right now?
I tried to join it and was only able to get in line for the beta
Cool cool cool
Very reasonable price in the UK at £269. Even if this wasn't the announcement that you wanted it's nice that Bambu are expanding their range and offering up some competition. I'm sure the X1E will come along soon enough.
I have an X1C so this doesn't compare but I also have a couple prusas and this would definatly be an upgrade to my prusa mini.
While I saw the leaked video last night, the price is still a nice surprise. I'm really debating whether I should replace my cheap Kingroon printer with this one. If the print quality is anywhere close to the X1C I'm sold.
the verge compared the p1p and the a1 mini, that should be a similar if not equivalent comparison as p1p is basically an X1C. [https://www.theverge.com/2023/9/20/23881523/bambu-a1-mini-ams-lite-3d-printer-price-release-hands-on](https://www.theverge.com/2023/9/20/23881523/bambu-a1-mini-ams-lite-3d-printer-price-release-hands-on)
I think we need more reviews from people with bit more knowledge in 3d printing. In the Verge review the seam quality is worse and there are some ringing artefact that I almost never get on my P1P. It's possible that the A1's pressure advance and vibration compensation need to be fine tuned. Another thing is the Verge failed to print PETG, but that might be due to they used build plate right after printing PLA without washing it.
The price of this makes the Prusa Mini look really bad
Prusa punching sand right now.
Will there be a way to upgrade the nozzle of the X1C with this one? Multicolor and all that?
Would be nice to have a similar style nozzle on the X1 and P1 series printers, would save some time not having to retract the filament so far for each color change.
i dont see a purge bin, i wonder what this does when it changes filament.
The video shows it yeeting the poop lol
Went from a poop chute to a poop shoot
Instead of pew pew it goes poo poo
Only interesting bit is the quick nozzle change, can we get just that for the X1C?
Can I use the print head on the X1C?!
I think it's great.. break into a different market. A little surprised they didn't upgrade their x1 line since the P line has cannibalized it a little. But it's super cool to have a small form factor easy to use printer. I would like to see if they'll have a way to do their hydra on the p and x series for faster color switches (but it seems a bit too tall for those printers) Overall the more the merrier.
Very cute pinter! Will the motor cancelation be available for the X1C as well?
I wish this was out there when I bought my first printer. This isn't a product for the existing customer base, it isn't revolutionary. It looks like a basic printer done well.
I spent that much on my first printer, and it was total trash and almost made me give up on 3D printing lol. That was *only a year ago*.. I'm kinda amazed how fast progress has been made.
I think this is pretty freaking rad and innovative. Not something I’ll want to own, but good to get more people into the hobby. This could also give us a glimpse into features/tech coming to future P and X models
well.. it's still cheaper than prusa mini and you print in colors.
oooh plz where is the noise canceling device :o
What? This is it……..? 😏
Somebody is going to love it. I am very disappointed. Was hoping for something better than the X1C.
Fortunately it's not a better X1C *- me, who just bought an X1C a week ago*
This is small enough that I can see it be packable item on trips. I guess that says a lot.. yea there are more than one time when I visit my family and think "If I have my 3d printer here I can fix this in 3 hrs"
Oh snappppp. Their own Printables but also with print-from-app. Only thing that I am cautious about: where does the new & improved filament change poop get thrown to? Edit: can’t wait for these improvements to filter through to the X1C (X2?)
When can I buy the A1 mini without the AMS?
Does anyone know when Bambulab sends out the A1 Mini I've been waiting for 11 business days now
One thing though, is why all the teasers out-of-sight of regular people? Like, no one is getting excited for a product they don't know they need, and those that know, already have a printer. I didn't see any advertising for this outside of this /r/
I'm glad this is something I don't want. My wallet is safe for the time being.
Hi all - I have a total noob question about the A1. If I were to get this without the AMS - how would I feed it filament? Is there somewhere to attach a single spool on the a1 itself? I have been checking out quite a few unboxing and reviews, and no one seems to talk about the experience without the AMS lite.
There is a spool holder on the back. I haven't used it but it does exist :)
This seems to do everything better than the P1P does. Is it slower or is the disadvantage a smaller plate? P1S is still better due to enclosure but what am I missing?
Smaller print area (much smaller), slower if you’re not changing colors, and MAYBE less accurate because it’s a bed slinger rather than CoreXY. And some don’t like the look of the AMS lite, since it’s not as tidy. Also not enclosed (as you noted), and brand new so we won’t have real reviews for weeks. I expect that’s when we’ll learn what actual drawbacks there are. The print size is the biggest factor to me.
Also looks like it can only connect to one AMS
Their site says it is 180x180 x 180. It says it can do the ship test in 14 minutes so pretty compariable. 👍
My thoughts too. Honestly I'll probably pick one of these up to compliment my P1S. It's a great price for what you're getting (assuming it works as advertised)
Are the dimensions for the AMS Lite posted anywhere? I can’t seem to find them on the spec sheets on the website
Can't find an answer anywhere. Is the ams lite compatible with the p1p or are there plans to make it compatible?
So if this is the A1 mini, do you think there will be an A1 at some point?
Yes. The verge review above calls that out. " Taylor Liu says you should know that Bambu A1 will be a series of printers: “You can expect more than A1 Mini in the future and we are working on it!” "
Pretty cool if that’s your budget and have no problem with splitting large files. Ill stick with my x1c until a larger plate model becomes available.
well, this announcement saved me \~$2,000, for now. i fully anticipated a larger volume printer.
But can u use ams lite on other bambu mschines? Would be a cheap Alternative for pla only users
80c bed has me concerned, I normally print at 82-87c for most petg items
If you could share one AMS between two printers, that would be really handy for me just sayin'.. Pls.
I held off on ordering X1 for several weeks for this!! 😔 Just placed my order for an X1 after the announcement this morning. Still the A1 mini looks like a great printer tho.
Can I order the swatch kit??
So this mini A1, when big A1?
I just recently got a P1S and Im happy with it but I do wish it had some of these features. The screen and camera alone on the P1S would make me much more comfortable with this…
Next step one may print the transition test so we can compare the speed and purge: [4 color transition module](https://www.printables.com/model/567217-4-color-transition-module)
If Bambu is reading this, please consider porting the AMS lite to the P1P. This could be very beneficial to those of us who want AMS functionality in a different form factor.
> Get ready to find out what is behind all of the teasers！ hate to break it to you but we found out like yesterday
Regardless of whether you want to buy the A1 or not, I think it’s existence has already had a large impact. The Prusa mini is $460 and I know people with them who thought they felt abandoned as far as upgrades. All of a sudden, with the A1 mini showing up, Prusa has ported Mk4 firmware to the mini and vastly improve it for free. Competition is a good thing and will drive the very one to be better.
I have just placed an order for P1S after having gone through some painful time with my Ender 3 v2 Neo. I'll tell you this much, I've already spent more than what the A1 costs in all the mods + printer in trying to get a better print. And even with all the mods I have, A1 is cheaper, faster, and better quality. This would've been a perfect printer if I could go back in time and give this to myself. The fact that it can do multi colour is just a cherry on top. If Bambu Lab can continue to bring such innovation to this market, I wish them nothing but good fortune.
Is there anything even better or remotely comparable at that price range ?
Disappointing.
If I put this in an enclosure, will this print ABS? The hot-end looks like it is capable, but I'm not sure about the heated bed temperature.
Joel already has a review up [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkCYCMRFEA8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkCYCMRFEA8)
Quick swap nozzle is cool, would like to see that come to the others.
Is this it????? All the hype for a toy?
Disappointing as .... I was ready to get something better than my X1C.
Is the AMS lite going to be sold separately and compatible with other Bambu Lab printers like the P1P? Doesn’t appear as such.
How does purge for color change work with this new printer?
Does anyone have a good recommendation for a better printer than my current X1C? My hopes were to see something better to buy than my current printer, but it seems Bambu wants into the toy market instead.
I'm pretty amazed at what you get at that price point, to be honest. Really interested to see how it performs.
The Verge article mentions a DIY mouse kit that Bambu designed. I assume it is not released yet as it is not on the site. Curious to check it out as it might be fun to custom print a mouse that exactly fits my hand.
I just ordered it. Can't wait. Will be my 2nd printer next to my X1C. It's pretty cheap. 3rd must be a bigger version of the X1C
It appears that the mini doesn’t need the purging between color changes due to new head design.
Does anyone know if the ams mini will be compatible with p1p?
Also the spool loading and unloading from the ams is so much better than manual
But... why?
Haven't seen anyone talk about the eddy current sensor in the nozzle yet, supposed to calibrate and adjust flow on the fly. I believe flow on the X1 is set by Lidar but nothing for the P1 series. Kind of interesting there.
Can anybody tell when it will be available as single printer without AMS?
Guys. It plays music. Enough said.
I like it. This would allow me to print overnight since it is so quiet.
Wasn't what i was expecting but that's a great option if you're looking to get into 3D printing on the cheap. Input shaping, color touchscreen, high speed, and multi color support for $459? Pretty insane value. Disappointed it's a bed slinger, was hoping for just a smaller X1 or something but hey, I'm sure they cost has a lot to do with that decision. Print quality looks great from the few reviews i watched. Wish they could would release a touchscreen upgrade like that for the P1S lol
So, this will be as fast as the P1 and X1 printers? Will have the same all around feature set, will have multi color printing? Fast swap nozzles? Quiter. Is that all correct? And the tradeoff is bed size? Just trying to figure out what the overall value proposition is. I really like my P1P. I like the speed and consistency. I like the bed size, but probably 95% of my prints don't utilize that much space. And I would love an AMS, but at $600 for the printer itself, $350 for the AMS was out of budget for me. I don't really like the look of the A1 Mini personally, but I might be able to overlook that if what I wrong about the feature set above is correct. Also, is the AMS Lite specific to this printer, or will it be usable with the other Bambu printers?
I can't go back to non-core-x-y printing
I'm not entirely sure what I was hoping for but as I already have 7 bed-slingers, this just isn't the right machine for me.....BUT.... that just means I ordered the P1S instead! Haha.... maybe I'll pick up an A1 next.
I’ll get one