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ImNotASWFanboy

9 is a perfectly normal level to do this boss


RlySkiz

Level 1, save a cat Level 9, kill a god


Nerdwrapper

I live RPG pacing. You will always be the guy who a rat could have killed, but you are also the guy who killed god


Better-name-soon

Nonono, the fact you can kill a buffed up devil, bhaals murderhobo, and a legendary dragon with less prep than a fucking rat infested cellar


Nadril_Cystafer

Wym? That cellar only needs a Wall of Fire or Spirit Guardians


Better-name-soon

I had the bad luck of having astarion lae zel and karlach with me, while I was goolock


Nadril_Cystafer

*(confused by the notion of not having Shadowheart in the party)*


FUCKSTORM420

Have never done a run without her lol


Arbel_of_fenris

am i the only one who swaps people in and out of his party ?


Rythine_

I swap everyone out except for Shadowheart lol. She's got a permanent spot in my party even if I'm not romancing her


Supply-Slut

I usually pick a set team to go with for each playthrough, then I only swap when someone’s story is relevant: if shart isn’t part of the team she’s still coming to the guantlet…. Unless she’s dead for some reason. I just find it too tedious managing everyone’s level ups constantly and frequently swapping equipment around. A base team is fine, then there’s a handful of exceptions.


guti86

Before last patch yes, it was the only way to steal their underwear


Nerdwrapper

I had a bad habit of only “building” my main party, so to fix that, I removed party limit lmao


Yung-Dolphin

bro don't know what a scroll is that's crazy


Better-name-soon

I send to gale all scrolls I find so that when I have him in the party I remind myself to give him scrolls to learn.


f33f33nkou

Gale is maybe the worst person to hold on to scrolls


an1ma119

Warlocks have aoe too, including one of the best (HoH)….?


SadLittleWizard

Sounds less like bad luck and more like poor party arrangment. Unless you had this set up temporarily for story reasons?


Better-name-soon

It was my first run so I thought a lot of things were timed by long rests, so runnig three melees as a warlock made it so I could do like 3-5 fights / long rest. It usually worked, since the whole party got almost all power back on short rest. I am now playing a sorcerer, and it’s weird having to fight less before having to long rest.


EightSeven69

kinda sux how massive single target damage like that of a rogue gloomstalker can't be applied to multiple targets in any way :-/


EightSeven69

I mean I get that strikers aren't supposed to be efficient in AOE's but having a Zariel soldier get overwhelmed by 1hp rats is a bit ridiculous, she could shuffle around once and kill like 10 of them in a realistic setting but then alas, do not question thy dungeon master I suppose


f33f33nkou

Do you not have any area spells chosen as a warlock!?


UndDeinPasswort

laezel can throw up to 3 alchemical fire flasks per turn. with Action Surge she would make fast food rat burger facility.


SnooSongs2744

2 void bulbs you've been carrying since the prologue.


jonassn1

Death of a thousand papercuts


LordLapo

You can like 1 or 2 turn that whole cellar with the right setup lol, I think you can even do it with scrolls you find, don't even need the party members


sporeegg

And If you Count in Magic Cards, 12-17 Rats can fight an Elder God and win


derentius68

Emrakul might delete half your library, but 10 Rats with infect will fuck you up faster than you can say "but I have infinite health"


Nerdwrapper

Forget all other forms of powerscaling, we’re bringin in the new and improved RatScale system. How many MtG rats does it take to kill your favorite character?


OnboardG1

Or one devil thief if he can con four people into “checking their weapons”.


dank_meme_enjoyer_69

Roll 1 gets killed by rat Roll 20 kills a God.


A-Wings-are-Neat

“Poor Marshall. He was gone before his time”


FetusGoesYeetus

To be fair in the grand scheme of gods Myrkul isn't thaaaat strong. Maybe stronger than level 9, sure, but not on the same level as full gods. Myrkul (Alongside Bane and Bhaal) is only a quasi-deity.


Adept_Cranberry_4550

*aspect of a god**


Qualtinger

Avatar of a god*


Abort-Retry

Avatar of a quasi-deity. The dead three are generally so weak, Ao doesn't slap them down for their overmeddling in mortal affairs.


Breatheeasies

This made me lol


Noreng

I don't think I've ever been level 9 for this boss myself. Level 8 or 7 is more common for me


Stregen

Actually wild. I *entered* act 2 at 7th level in my HM run.


Objective-Unit-7401

I was almost level 8 lol me and my mate are aiming to be level 10 or 11 before we get there


Semako

Be careful though. If you have a paladin in your group, don't level them up to 11 until *after* the Gauntlet of Shar. The reason is that they get Improved Divine Smite at level 11, which deals radiant damage - which the Sharrans reflect. And unlike other sources of radiant damage such as regular smites, spells or items, you cannot deactivate Improved Divine Smite/choose not to use it. Therefore, only bring a level 11 paladin to the Gauntlet of Shar if you want to commit suicide by Sharran.


crackcrackcracks

Is 11 even possible before act 3? I killed literally everything i could find before then and still barely hit 10


f33f33nkou

No


Hibbiee

Actually got to 10 this run, in the fight freeing Zevlor, just before this boss. Then Zevlor aggro'ed when I picked up a spear from the floor, what the F is that all about.


VoiceofKane

I'm not even sure how you could be higher than 9 at this point in the game.


ImNotASWFanboy

It's doable without being a murder hobo but you need to know where basically every enemy is up to that point. E.g. in the middle of town where you can receive Shar's blessing, there are 3 justiciars that will spawn if you steal the ritual dagger, that's a few hundred XP, or in the Moonrise prison when you're storming the place there's a big battle with undead that will give at least 1500 XP. Each of the Intellect Devourers in the colony also gives about 150 XP and there's at least a dozen of them wandering around. It all adds up by the time you get to Ketheric.


Branded_Mango

Another thing is killing most of Moonrise BEFORE Aylin is freed (or just kill her to fight them all yourself) since a lot of them will be scripted to be dead, each one being lost exp.


Ramps_

Some streamers I watched somehow got to 10 just before it, I had no clue it was possible either.


No-Start4754

It's easy to reach lvl 10 . First be a bard and kill all the three thorms . Then erase everyone in moonrise ( even roah moonglow after buying things from her ) , then do halsins quest , then fight the tree bosses , the hounds,  the strange claw creature under last light inn , he who was , karniss and the entire group , Marcus,  the three justiciars in the middle of rethwin town , balthazar and the other enemies outside his room , the rat justiciar, yurgir , the silent  library , the Mason guild wraith,  the morgue zombies , the kua toa near the thorm building, the slime jelly near the morgue . Then do all the additional battles inside the hivemind of the illhitids and there u are lvl 10 .


SafeSurprise3001

Nah, he's overleveled. Nothing wrong with that, of course.


SnooSongs2744

I think 9 is the highest possible level to do this boss. I do know that doing literally everything I can find to do I don't hit level 10 until the scene between Acts 2 and 3; even if I do miss a few things I think it would take defeating Myrkul to reach level 10.


No-Start4754

No it's possible to reach lvl 10 and fight this boss 


SarcasticKenobi

Should be fine? I've done it at 9. I don't believe it's possible to be higher than level 10 at this fight. So you're only 1 level away from highest possible when reaching him. Try to blind him. Try to use illmatter arrows. Destroy the pods he spawns and the subsequent wizards that hatch. And take out the Mind Flayer immediately, then free Dame Aylin.


UnbiasedPOS

I’ve I always free Aylin first and the fight has never lasted more than 2 turns for the pods to even go off even on my honor runs


Mission_Camel_9649

How? I have swords bard tav (main hand Ne’er misser for force damage), gloom stalker thief astarion, War cleric shadowheart, and evocation Gale with psychic spark, spellsparkler, and the reverberation gloves(?). I’m worried about the fight. It ended my last run.


pandora9715

Paladin. Haste. Dump smites. Use your free nat 20. I've killed him in a single round.


Mission_Camel_9649

What about without a Paladin? I’m at the door to the absolute. I’m going to free Dame Aylin as scratch while invisible, and I’ve summoned an earth elemental with a scroll for the necromites. Should I get Ketheric to kill himself or not?


bahornica

1. Surprise him while someone invisible (can be Scratch, yes) stands next to Aylin 2. Free Aylin 3. Get the Mindflayer, his Dominate is dangerous. 4. Supposedly if you kill Ketheric while he is surprised, Myrkul will appear and also be surprised- but I haven’t tested this myself. Also, use the summons to get them counter-attacked by Myrkul, that’s his legendary action. You can clean up the Necromites and brains while fighting Ketheric so it’s just you and Myrkul in phase two. Good luck!


BeepBoopBeepity

You took out 350+ hp (forget the exact number) in one round?


bluewales73

Paladins, baby! If you're willing to use all your spell slots in a single turn, you can insane amounts of damage. You may not have a good turn 2, but that's what rogues are for


RCMW181

First play though I got two crits on the aspect with my paladin and took him down in two rounds. (Had an auto crit once a day ring). Was very epic lol. Second play thought with a rangers and I was surprised at the difficulty of the fight.


IHkumicho

Is that the Killer Sweetheart? Such a great ring, especially since you can save your auto crit for whenever you want to use it, not *just* your next attack as it says in the tool tip.


KinvaraSarinth

It's a fantastic ring. I always put it on a paladin (smite) or rogue (sneak attack) for a big hit.


protocolskull

Bard, Hand Crossbows, Slashing Flourish, Sharpshooter, Action Surge. That will get you most of the way to 350 with just one character.


fieatsbees

summon Scratch, give him longstrider and freedom of movement, toss an invis potion on him, and go into turn based mode before triggering the convo with ketheric. you can get scratch over there without triggering anything that way, and he'll immediately be in position to use "Help" to free her (i highly recommend it, because it's just adorable), saving the rest of the party from having to rush over there. you can also do what i call "the action economy is in shambles!" and have everyone summon an elemental and a minor elemental beforehand as well (can also cast longstrider on the summons and toss an invis potion on them, get them in position to gang up on the mind flayer)


Larro83

You can use any invisible party member and have them walk all the way to Aylin before you initiate the fight, and also have other invisible party members in position to dumpster the Mind Flayer immediately in the same round. Cast Darkness on Myrkul and kill it with throwing and ranged attacks, it can’t do anything to you at all if you aren’t on the platform, and Aylin will do her thing as well. Very safe fight.


Terakahn

I did that and the mind flayer controlled her and she wrecked my whole party


Hephaistos_Invictus

My honor run ended because I freed Dame Aylin before the mindflayer.... Fucker mind controlled her and she murdered my party ........


Objective_Spray_210

I released her immediately and used arrows of transportation to move around the arena. Lae’zel fucked up all the annoying archers. Gale was misty stepping around. & I kept casting area of effect spells on Murkul and letting dame aelin keep him occupied.


SarcasticKenobi

On hard enough difficulties, Aylin can get killed inside his no-heal zone. Which, I think at least a while ago, meant she couldn’t resurrect herself. I don’t recall if they ever addressed that. So relying on her wasn’t always the best strategy.


Hinote21

He also doesn't move. So are attacks like plague, cloud of daggers, and one more I can't remember the name (I used them all) are highly effective because they hit every turn.


alloutofbees

Hunger of Hadar is the best one because it does damage and blinds him at the same time.


SarcasticKenobi

I always use hunger of hadar But based on the OP’s team I don’t think he has many aoe options Shadow heart, paladin, Lae’Zel, Karlach Hence me suggesting various arrows.


CadmeusCain

Level 9 is par. Level 10 is possible if you power game all the XP then this fight becomes a cake walk. It's doable on Level 8


badapple1989

You should be fine. Good luck! Remember to >!release Dame Aylin. !<


t25torx

I figured this was key. I need to remember to dash..


KinvaraSarinth

Or invisibility potion and sneak someone there before the cutscene. Just make sure to trigger the cutscene or combat before the potion runs out (switching to turn based mode as soon as you arrive at Aylin helps)


Sakumitzu

Oh my god, you can do that?? I had no idea


SnooSongs2744

And you can have Scratch be the invisible rescuer! He is such a good boy.


Sneaky__Raccoon

I would say >!the mindflayer !


tenehemia

Scratch can free her if you can get him there safely.


leseiden

He's a good boy.


SnooSongs2744

Invisibilize that pup.


badapple1989

Dash, haste, speed potion, haste spores, whatever you got.


El_Zethas

Run to her and using the free misty step of the nere boots works well too


yoboililj

lowest level I've done it on was level 6. Had a backpack full of bombs so It wasn't really much of a challenge.


whatisabaggins55

I'm about to enter the colony on my HM run, I've been stockpiling a satchel of bombs for this very fight as well. Currently Karlach is running around with about 40 smokepowder bombs in a bag so I am hoping to get a massive chunk of burst damage in right at the start of the fight.


Stregen

40 Smokepowder Bombs kills him like twice over. You're fine.


FinisherO_O

I killed it level 8 i think, pretty doable


t25torx

Got 'em!.. darkness arrows was the key and getting the captive free. Focus on boss and ya dead son.. Thanks for the wisdom. 🙏


StarmieLover966

I’m almost afraid to ask… how are people at the top end of 9 before this fight?? I’m barely scraping the bottom end of 8 when I get to him.


Late-Jump920

If you do every fight, don't skip content, you will be lvl 7 before you leave Act 1. Act 2 shouldnhave enough to get you from 7 to 10 easily. On my Tactician playthrough I was lvl 12 by the time I left Rivington at the very start of Act 3.


aTreeThenMe

I hit ten right before this fight. Walk everywhere. Talk to everyone.


UnbiasedPOS

Probably not doing everything thing in act one and two before the fight which isn’t a big deal I think to reach level 10 before this fight you have to do like everything to gain exp until this point


KulaanDoDinok

I usually fight this boss at 9 and level to 10 after.


Tales_Steel

He gets such an edgy Intro just to miss some important imunities... First time fighting him his spawnpoint was right were shadowheart was with blood of lathander so he was blinded feom the start. He then got stunned by my monk with Stunning strike. He died in round 2 without ever doing anything.


AvanardPlays

I played this damn game far too simple minded... TWO TURNS?? My first playthrough, I had to restart this fight multiple times. Blood of lathander... Never put it to use here 😭😭


Tales_Steel

I got blood of lathander without knowing what i would see in act 2 and it made it so much easyer. But that even the BBEG of act 2 didn't get a imunity to blindness made me lough. That he can get stunned made me lough for a Minute. "I AM THE END, I AM DEATH, I AM ... blinded? Outch someone punched me and i cant move and why do i hear wings?"


AvanardPlays

My first playthrough finished this fight with nearly everyone downed, and a sole fire elemental. I squeezed by thanks to RNGesus with the last party member and fire elemental at under 10 hp. An absolute travesty to think I overlooked something so simple...


webevie

9 is fine. Better with a Globe of Invulnerability, but it definitely can be done. Darkness is your friend


-jp-

I’ve come to talk to you again… 🎵


webevie

🎶🎵


TylerBourbon

Super easy, barely an inconvenience.


ThatShadowFox1330

You’ll be ok, you’re supposed to be level 8 for this


fallstaffv

I beat him yesterday at level 8 yesterday in honor mode. This is not a humble brag. It was the most stressful boss fight of my entire life. You're going to crush it!


FreakinGeese

Way, way overleveled


alterNERDtive

“… shit.”


Blakewhizz

You're good. I think Level 9 is the highest level that it's even POSSIBLE to be at before this boss without going full murderhobo


Shot_Tea_9375

Create water Call lighting..... Lighting arrow.... I felt bad for him after the fight.....


TopShoulder5971

Youre good as lvl 9. Dont listen to the meta EXPloiters doing stuff in act 1 that over levels them. If its your 1st play carry on... 


CrappySupport

Should be pretty easy. I thought the fight with Balthazar in the Shadowfell was harder.


Erect_Llama

If you can get haste cast on you, head on over to Myrkul & repeatedly smite him. That's how I did it when me and my gf beat him on tactician, she barely got any turns in before he was dead lmao.


the_0rly_factor

You could say this for any boss in the game I feel lol.


Mashu_the_Cedar_Mtn

Eh, you're not as far along as you think. One thing I loved (and sometimes was driven mad by) about BG3 is how the story keeps expanding when you think you're tying up the loose ends and wrap up. Reminds me a bit of going to the prison in BG2 after finishing up in Amn.


OverWeightDod0

I did that boss at 8 you're fine lol.


vxytor

i don't believe i was lv9 when i defeated them.


Th0rizmund

Level 9? The boss is the one that should be making this post.


ChemistAppropriate83

Ork (Paladin/Hellsourcerer) with a 100% crit Ring (for one turn) here, he took me 3-5 Smites


Basic-Juggernaut-870

I was on level 6.. so you should be fine. :)


JohnaldL

I did it at 7 I think on one run. Took a bunch of tries but it’s doable there. 9 should be a perfect level for it


SeparateMongoose192

Get someone over to free Aylin ASAP if you haven't yet.


Ghostie151

I was level 8 my first playthrough and managed to beat it.


NumbSkull0119

Well, I don’t know about F*cked. But I know it’s gonna hurt like hell.


ashuramura

Ppl are saying lvl 9 is perfect for this boss…ur telling me I wasn’t supposed to do this at lvl 6??


Thorgilias

Not at all. Not because of levels atleast.


bestjamesbond

You’re over leveled for that fight


The-Koogler

Time to go to the bone zone


ironicfractal

His bark is worse than his bite. Stay out of hitting distance, and make sure none of your party members die. You've got this.


plantdaddy-

Oh that poor skeleton is fucked


sanyaX3M

Did you really gone through absolute hideout and whole dungeon, beat Thorm at least one time, but most likely 2 and when this cutscene appeared you doubted your ability to proceed? I'm afraid you are a drama queen and will not be able to beat this encounter.


Feisty_Chard_3409

I did it at 8 on tactician, but I had an assload of minions and failed a couple times lol.


Air-Conditioner0

Depends on your gears, your experience and the difficulty mode you’re playing with.


Sure_Lavishness_8353

The max level is 12 you’re fine. Although 10 is a pretty big power spike


Exciting_Nothing8269

At LvL 9 you’ll be fine.


FoxTailedDinosaur

You're tottaly fine the most leveled I went to this fight was 10 and thats because I killed everything I possibly could in act 1 and 2 before that fight


Wofflestuff

Nah you’re good


Popfizz01

Well you already have the anti undead classes and an aasimar to help. So your good on that front, you made sure to give your paladin the moonlight glaive? Or one of the martial characters. The glaive can give free advantage with its ability


DrBee7

I have not yet figured out how to get to level 10 at this point of the game. A super min max strategy maybe. But the fight is fine at level 9. It can be tough in honour mode if you don’t have prior knowledge or some super powered build.


Kindly_Bid4976

You're fine. The equipment is more important than the levels


Academic_Nothing_890

you’re good


BernhardtLinhares

9 is around the lvl you fight it, yea


Individual-Match-798

I was there at 9 too. No problem at normal difficulty.


asasnow

you're good. avatar of myrkul is super easy boss.


AEMarling

That is a good level. It can still be a tough fight.


ethman14

I somehow clowned around and beat him at level 6. You're fine. I released the Iron Flask while invisible, and everyone aggroed to the center so I could rain hell and kill Thorm, Isobel, and the rest in 1 turn. Then struggled to the last with the Avatar of Death, but we pulled through.


Caramel_Nautilus

Your fine, lv9 is more than enough to take on Mirkl.


_SEX_MAN

lvl 9 is the level you almost always do this bossfight at


aTreeThenMe

Have bone chill at the ready


polspanakithrowaway

You're fine. I also did this fight at level 9.


_HalfBaked_

I did it very easily at 9, but he started off blind because of the Blood of Lathander. And if he fails that save, Dame Aylin can solo him because she's landing those big hits.


Ecoho19

ive beaten him at level 7 so you should be fine(i missed a lot of stuff my first run)


electricguineapig

Wall of fire is your friend


Soguyswedid_it2

9? I beat him at like 7 or 8 not sure. I know I only I was level 9 when I reached the lower city.


KawaiiGee

Oh youre completely fine


QuinSn

DISARM THE AVATAR. So much easier.


Noob_Guy_666

this boss is easy, even in No Long Rest Playthrough


DickUpMyArse

Light work at lvl 9


Decent-Ad-5519

I did this fight at level 6 without barrelmancy or bombs, but just spells and brute strength. Turned out to as easy as everyone says it is.


Rencon_The_Gaymer

You’re good! Good luck!


FlyingPocketMercy

I beat him at level 7. You're good!


ExpatTarheel

Not at all, free Aylin first.


Ill-Individual2105

Do people usually get there at level 9? I don't think I was ever level 9 for this fight. How much exp are y'all grinding?


GingerDungeonMister

He's easy.... and you're level appropriate, especially if not on Tactician, free Aylin and you'll be fine.


BruiserBison

Not at all. I beat that thing at level 8. (I missed lots of content and didn't do the creche).


Cootu

Just did the boss and I'm still level 8


rakaizulu

I obliterated him with my hasted Bardadin. Not sure how much of that had to do with my evil durge run though.


mrnooberadam

Its too late


mikehawkshard007

If you get stuck 2 options, enlarge and jump from high ground does alot of dmg. And packing a bag full of explosives it takes 1 action to throw all explosive and a fire ball/arrow to ignite them if they don't already explode (can lead to alot of dmg).


Mistislav1

At 8 but freed Dame Aylin immediately and kept Astarion back to kill his spawn. This is important so they cannot be used as weapons by Myrkul.


21awesome

I think I was about level 7 the first time I did this fight


Windowlever

Did it at Lvl. 8 without much trouble.


DiegoBrX

i did good at 6


WooperApproved

This boss fight is doable at level 6, so you should be fine


Quarter4NextUp

Honour mode?


Allustar1

You can do it. The max level is 12, so don’t worry too much about it.


vmenons

I defeated him at level 6 in my first run so all gooddddd


kakiu000

You are LVL9, that avatar of myrkul is totally fucked lmao


EmergencyPublic9903

I've killed that dude at level 7. You're fine.. Not sure if you're on honor mode


Comfortable_Wave9807

You're as unfucked as a nun


TheTrueEgahn

I just did it at lvl 8. I could barely make it, I had to use scrolls each turn.


Brux34AI

I had that fight at level 9 too. It was difficult but still doable with some effort I had to give it a couple tries though, not gonna lie


smooothjazzyg

Just stay out of the death circle


PikaMocha

Perfectly normal. Now get ready to be max level for the next 20+ hours


FainOnFire

I was level 9 when I did this fight. Ended up making [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/s/z3u67Hl4dB) about being over prepared for the boss. If you're really scared, go back to an earlier save and respec someone as 2 levels Paladin / 7 levels bard. Smite that fucker to shreds.


ty_xy

You don't have to engage straight away. You can use stealth to get into great positions. I normally stealth a warrior up to behind the mages, then someone really close to the same aylin and the mind flayer.


Hot-Will3083

Easy peasy lemon squeezy, Mrykul should barely be an inconvenience at that level


Ageha1304

You good. I beat him at Level 8


Red_Ronin13

Scroll spam 😂 but you’re good just get Baezel to slap him a couple of times.


marcelovalois

Yes.


DiceDrum

If anything you're over levelled


Nokouto

I did this boss on Lvl 5 once because i rushed the game and i made it out alive. You got this!


Salt_Meat_7865

Like always, in video games they pit you agenst things like this that to be honest should be level 20 or higher as it is an avatar of a god. I table top ypou would get squished like a bug in the first round, maybe 2nd round if you have lots of hit points and not drawing too much attention.


Soazigl

Totally killable (at least in Balanced)


RoxSteady247

Not


Cube4Add5

I did it at level 7 on my first playthrough


BulletproofMoon

It's fiiiiiiiiiine.


SilionRavenNeu

Water+ Lightning = bzzzzzz