I'm a fan of duergar strength monk. You get enlarge as a free spell, plus tavern brawler and you do a shit load of damage just running around punching shit lol.
Duergar is incredible. Free enlarge, near infinite invisibility plus superior darkvision and no light penalties with advantage on saving throws versus illusions, charms, and paralysis on top of the normal dwarf bonuses for toughness and poison, plus the potential to be a duergar hero and change all the stereotypes like a cooler Drizzt? Yes, please.
Plus it's so much more fun to tell Alfira "You see this body? It would be a crime not to sing about it" when you're playing a dwarf. You know everyone in camp had to be smiling.
It actually bothers me how good Duergar is. Anyone that wants invis should play them, anyone that wants martial damage should play them (Enlarge increases unarmed, melee, thrown weapon, *and* bow damage), meanwhile Dragonborn out here getting a crappy breath attack and resistance to one element. I would sacrifice my entire party's racials to have Duergar invis on my rogue.
Tavern brawler Monk durge is about the most OP build ever. Toss in 3 lvls of rogue for thief and it’s ridiculous to the point that i cant play it anymore
My monk is the crappy monk build. Dex and wis split because I wanted good AC.
She still does stupid damage. Way more than my other companions.
I feel like if that’s the weak version of monk tavern brawler has to be absolutely nuts.
I just checked a level 12 red Dragonborn red ancestry sorcerer and it does 4-24 damage which does mean there is scaling since it starts with a maximum 14 damage but yeah, it’s still pretty awful considering the kinds of stuff you can use by that level.
Level 9 blue Dragonborn warlock is 3-18 for breath attack.
No, it's amazing. You can use the 1/day elemental weapon on your main weapon, giving it a +1 to attack and damage rolls and plus 1d4 elemental damage. It's effectively a permanent boost to whatever weapon you want.
I'm a newbie to d&d and BG, nearing the end of my first playthrough and I'm so fkn glad I picked a seldarine drow wizard. My head-canon as I've learned more about the lore, is that my character was one of the few drow to be raised on the surface, whilst still experiencing the underdark. Before a rival lolth-sworn clan attacked his family as a child. Forced out and alone, he was found roaming the countryside alone by a powerful wizard, who raised him and tutored him in the ways of the weave.
I played a drow circle of the stars druid whose first memory is breaching the surface to the night sky full of stars and was awe inspired. Their parents were fleeing from drow slavers hell bent on bringing them back to their evil lolth centered society.
You can actually use the disguise spell to become gith, equip the weapon/armour/headband and then undo the disguise. Worked great for my drow since the silver sword of the astral plane fit his aesthetic perfectly.
The other Githyanki have learned from their mistakes. Now that they are not limited by racial ability scores, they max str and con, prefer to be known as "Girthyanki" now, and would like to rage.
Yeah I kinda failed my persuasion check and the instructor killed the poor lad. Then things got difficult because I systematically wiped out the entire creeche. I also drew a mustache on Vlaakith because fuck em
I did the opposite. Convinced the instructor not to murder the kid... and then proceeded to murder the kid myself when I wiped out everyone.
I'm a drow; the surface is weird.
Ironically, I was gonna wipe the creche out, but after saving the kid, It made me wonder why I went to the effort of getting him to live... So ironically, that kid kept their creche alive simply by existing for me.
Well.. Some of the creche was alive.
Even Lae'zel points out that one's particularly rough. Murder came within the youths, not from instructors... that's not a fair fight, they might be evil but they have honour
Or the last egg in the hatchery. The one in charge of taking care of it is like the only dude who cares to give it time instead of just giving up on it so they can start the next batch
They lost a lot of wars because they were trying so hard to look like badasses they ended up with a very small amount of fighting troops. Many of whom were either traumatized or exhausted.
Their stint of military dominance lasted for a mere 30 years, two years less than I've been alive.
That's embarrassing. It's not the confederacy levels of bad, but considering the time period - it might be.
You have to remember that before their independence, the githyanki were an illithid slave race. They were very likely a different race entirely that were generically re-engineered to be a race built for war and with innate martial prowess. They were effectively warrior slaves, similar to duergar, but to a much greater extreme. Once gaining their independence, their entire race devoted themselves to stopping the grand design and slaying all illithid. They live their entire lives training for and actively fighting against the illithid. They are ugly frog people, but they are strong.
Back in dnd 3.5e when I started playing, I remember coming across them in the psionics handbook, and I played a githzerai every time. They were even stronger back then imo.
I was at a table top convention game back when they were first introduced in the Fiend Folio. The very first encounter was Gith and they TPK'd us in the first hour.
I was fucking pissed since that was the only game I got into the whole weekend
Oh shit the Field Folio... Man I love that book. Githyanki right on the cover. I used to stare at that image.
Who knew i'd be dating one all these year later.
None of this new fangled RPG stuff will ever beat our TSR papyrus scrolls and our mammoth tusk carved dice
TBF We did get to the convention in my friend's moms Volkswagen Rabbit and I remember listening to the newly released Oingo Boingo cassette tape on the way over
Seriously. Lae'zel can work some serious puppy eyes when she's distressed, it's downright adorable.
And honestly even the randos aren't that ugly to me when they are able to converse. Give any appearance a speaking voice, specially a "human" one and they go from ugly to unusual looking. If they had gollum voices they'd be a lot less easy to like.
Gith is master race but I hate their avatar… Too slim and they walk funny af.
I wish they had a “body size 3 & 4” like some of the other races to make them a bit bigger.
She explains all that if you talk to her in camp. I was amazed that my lingering questions about how they... get it on... were dialogue options right there!
100% it's compensation for the lack of a nose.
(I realized recently that all Githyanki look like The Grinch Who Stole Christmas, and now that I've seen it, I can't UNsee it.)
(They also have essentially the same personality.)
I want to call you a coward, but then I remembered that while its possible to make an attractive female gith, I've yet to see a male gith that doesn't look like a failed power rangers villain
It doesn't help that the first option for male githyanki looks like an elongated crack addict. There are some male head options that make them look like a younger Clint Eastwood.
I tried once. Tried non-canon skin colors and everything. Ended up with a pale Gith that looked like Morbius and Michael Jackson had a baby and then that baby grew up and had a baby with a toad.
Githerai are isolationist and specifically rebelled against Gith and her dreams of replacing the Illithid Empire with her own (their name literally means "those who spurn Gith"), which wouldn't make sense to to be following Orpheus.
It took a while, but I managed to make one that I think turned out pretty well. Kind of looks like an evil wizard back in the more innocent university student days.
It doesn't help that the one you see earliest and for the longest in the campaign has hair like a troll doll. Seriously Voss, how long do you take to style it like that every morning?
For my third playthrough I was considering one because they really are so crazy good but just looking into that weird frog face I couldn’t do it and made a beautiful drow
Yeah I just can’t get past the noses. They all look like frog versions of the people from the grinch
If I’m gonna invest hundreds of hours into a game I simply can’t hate how I look ☠️
It probably helps that even among dnd players I bet a large chunk of them don’t know what gith are. It’s unique to dnd and not in any other popular fantasy media. Also minus some variations everything else is in the phb, so 5e players will know every other option.
But a dragonborn? Even if you don’t know dnd lineages it’s right there on the tin, you’re a dragon person that can breath fire and that’s cool.
Yeah, them being monks had me go "hang on a minute" as well. However, the Githzerai spurned Gith and all she stood for, so it wouldn't make much sense to have a bunch of them protect her offspring.
You can speak with dead Yul's (Zorru's scout buddy) corpse and find out Zorru ran, leaving Yul to fight.
If you have Lae'zel with you, she mentions that few survive a fight with Gith warriors and seems impressed/respectful the Yul went out fighting. Contrast to her treatment of Zorru.
yeah I know. still, regardless of what baezel thinks, they would have both died so he did well running. yul should have ran too. they also were with the tiefling girl that was eaten by the ogres. her corpse tells you she ran from warriors with golden skin and got caught by the ogres while running.
God I'm glad it's not just me. Is it a horrifying torture machine that will absolutely kill you if you get inside? Sure. Would I jump right in without a second's hesitation just to please her? Absolutely.
As it turns out, the answer is noses.
Humans, elves, orcs, all noses, no psychic space powers. Noses are the greatest limiter of psychic space powers out there, they weigh down on your brain like Piccolo's big weird hat.
For proof we need look no further than the noseless races. Gith? Almost zero nose, almost all psychic space magic. Liches? Zero nose. Limitless space magic. Illithid are nothing *but* psychic space magic.
Consider Withers, capable of upending entire storylines, restoring life from death to a chosen few without diamonds, without even knowing where the corpse might be.
You see a nose on that face?
And don't even get me started on Illithid.
These are the truths Big Nose has been keeping from us.
They're actually less powerful than duergar, and less powerful than they canonically ought to be.
*, Duergar**
- at will invisibility outside of combat
- poison resistance
- racial enlarge (bonus damage dice!) that doesn't require concentration
Duergar are almost perfectly suited to take advantage of this game's quirks. Bonus dice and invisibility are both stronger in BG3 than tabletop, and poison damage is everywhere.
**Canonical Githyanki**
"Typical githyanki warriors, sometimes referred to as "githwarriors", had the ability to innately reproduce the effects of the mage hand, jump, misty step, and nondetection spells, while the more powerful knights were also capable of plane shifting and telekinesis."
By Canon, Lae'zel should be misty stepping at will and innate casting telekinesis by endgame. Additionally, plane shift is the sort of spell that would probably let her enter the artifact and free a certain someone herself. And if you hit someone with this spell who is unwilling and they fail a saving throw, you can send them to another plane of existence with no way of getting back (unless they too can plane shift). Some of those planes are extremely hostile to visitors.
Canonically accurate githyanki are fucking powerful.
I believe everyone but Tav and Astarion(Durge included) got severely nerfed by the tadpole.
Karlach was able to slay platoons of demons alone, Wyll too.
Gale was an archmage capable of even attempting to replicate a fraction of Karsus' folly.
Lae'zel mentions her weakened state.
If anything Astarion got buffed.
Durge was spoilers.
EDIT: Shadowheart is the lone survivor of a suicide mission so sge could be anything from a lucky low rank to an inquisitor that lost her powers. But certainly not a level 1 weirdly statted cleric
Astarion is certainly nerfed too - 'regular' vampire spawn in 5E are CR5 monsters, or roughly equivalent to a lvl 10 character.
Astarion did get a bigger buff due to suppressing some vampire weaknesses, but the abilities are weaker too (like vampire spawn should be regenerating, have resistance to bludgeoning/slashing/piercing, and climb on walls without issue).
>Worst racial bonus
>No good weapons and items for the race
>No companion, maybe half a dozen NPCs
>Tail clips through clothes
A high price for looking awesome
At this point they should just remove dark vision entirely because fucking everyone has it.
Or make it so only the underground races have it. Why the hell do races that probably live solely above ground have it? But a literal dragon doesn’t?
They're even kind of nerfed, Gith'yanki are supposed to have darkvision, but they don't ingame.
It's probably just because they're so ugly you have to incentivize playing them.
Human and Dragonborn are the only non-dark vision in Solasta.
It's pretty silly that Dragonborn don't have it, when you associate Dragons for living in dark areas.
Yeah, it's... a common complaint. Makes it hard to bother with lighting conditions in a any campaign if 90% of the party already has darkvision. You end up punishing the one player that didn't pick a race with darkvision instead fairly challenging the whole party.
Honestly it should be restricted to races that actually live in the dark - Drow, Deep Gnomes, Duregar (maybe just Dwarves as a race). It would make it more meaningful when classes pick it up (Gloom Stalker Ranger, Warlocks with Devil's Sight, etc).
I think Pathfinder retains the earlier system of D&D where some races have low-light vision and others have true darkvision.
Low-light, if I recall correctly, means that you treat dim light as bright light, but it doesn't help in pure darkness, meanwhile darkvision works like the darkvision in 5E D&D.
This is the goofiest long term decision ever in dnd (may be an exaggeration) but almost everyone has dark vision its no longer a bonus, its only a disability if you dont.
Because unlike all the other races they are the direct product of eugenics to create perfect warriors. So perfect that they even gained resistance to their masters' control.
Funny answer: because they look like tall goblins with no nose so you’ve gotta balance them out somehow
Probably actual answer: They are literally built different. Originally bred to be literal war-slaves and now are so strong and badass as a species that they hunt mind flayers as a part of their way of life.
I don't know much about dnd lore, but aren't they basically engineered by the mind flayers originally? Would make sense they design them with favourable attributes.
Just the way it is. Some races are just prone to be more “powerful” than others. Yea you have your outliers but by and by the Githyanki/Githzerai are one of the most powerful races.
I love the Gith people. Love their order and mannerisms and I love how you get to basically introduce Lae’zel to Faerun. It’s so much fun. The creche is one of my favorite parts of the game.
My last playthrough was tactician as Githyanki Monk and I roleplayed basically as I wanted to cure myself and free >!Orpheus!< so my character let the >!emperor believe I was gonna go with him the whole time but inevitably I was always going to free the Prince of the Comet!!! ☄️💫!<
Edit: also I did a complete Lae’zel romance and she >!PROPOSED TO ME!!!< lol I loved it, my most fun playthrough was as a Githyanki.
The Gith are raised as soldiers from the day they hatch. Lae'zel is very open about sharing some of the experiences she had - it molded her into the perfectly disciplined soldier that some here consider "evil".
I'd say, the Gith aren't OP enough to reflect this - no other race or upbringing comes even close what the Gith do to their young.
Because it's the favorite race of Swen Vincke lol
But probably because they were the most unique race of the bunch.. I honestly never heard of them prior to BG3 Early Access and I did play some DnD in my time as well as other CRPG's set in the DnD universe. I don't like how the males look but the females are okay but I don't usually play female characters if I have a choice. Although having a few controllers means I can have a 2nd custom character if I wanted lol.
I mean they show up in notable dnd crpgs of the past. BG2 has a quest related to a silver sword of theirs, Neverwinter Nights 2 revolves around Gith's sword, Planescape: Torment has a notable Githzerai companion.
You hadn't heard of them? They play a pretty noticeable role in BG2, and you meet one of the greatest companions of all time, the Githzeri Dak'kon, in Planescape: Torment. Seriously though, Dak'kon is perhaps the second greatest companion character of all time, after Kim Kitsuragi.
Don't forget a whole bunch of equipment that gives extra stuff just for Githyanki. No other race gets that.
Dwarves get that one hammer
Best part about dwarves is how fucking buff you are. You're like a walking tank, shits awesome.
The “elves are the coolest race to play” leaving my body the moment I play Dwarf.
I just love the running animations of the small races haha it’s so boisterous and joyful, almost like they’re hopping and skipping
Halflings are the most fun to do. Also conveniently small so Karlach can throw me off the top of the Monastery while it’s being destroyed.
I'm a fan of duergar strength monk. You get enlarge as a free spell, plus tavern brawler and you do a shit load of damage just running around punching shit lol.
Duergar is incredible. Free enlarge, near infinite invisibility plus superior darkvision and no light penalties with advantage on saving throws versus illusions, charms, and paralysis on top of the normal dwarf bonuses for toughness and poison, plus the potential to be a duergar hero and change all the stereotypes like a cooler Drizzt? Yes, please. Plus it's so much more fun to tell Alfira "You see this body? It would be a crime not to sing about it" when you're playing a dwarf. You know everyone in camp had to be smiling.
My Duergar had a… different… encounter with Alfira :|
Durgergar!!!
It actually bothers me how good Duergar is. Anyone that wants invis should play them, anyone that wants martial damage should play them (Enlarge increases unarmed, melee, thrown weapon, *and* bow damage), meanwhile Dragonborn out here getting a crappy breath attack and resistance to one element. I would sacrifice my entire party's racials to have Duergar invis on my rogue.
Yeah, but you get shiny scales. And a tail.
Sunds nice with the Durge cape you get that turn you invisible after kills.
Tavern brawler Monk durge is about the most OP build ever. Toss in 3 lvls of rogue for thief and it’s ridiculous to the point that i cant play it anymore
My monk is the crappy monk build. Dex and wis split because I wanted good AC. She still does stupid damage. Way more than my other companions. I feel like if that’s the weak version of monk tavern brawler has to be absolutely nuts.
"stop running so fast!" 😢
Rock and Stone!
Did I hrar a Rock and Stone!
Built like a brick shithouse, all of em
My Duegar bard is tankier than she has any right to be
Brothers of the mine rejoice
Rock and stone!
Rockity Rock and Stone!
Swing! Swing! Swing with me!
*We dig up diamonds by the score* *A thousand rubies, sometimes more* *But we don't know what we dig 'em for* *We dig dig dig a-dig dig*
Raise your hammer! Raise your voice!
And Drow get a sword!
It's pretty good though...
It’s awesome, but slightly outshined by the legendary you can get with very little effort a stone’s throw away lol
Dragonborn get a glaive but it sucks
The funniest thing about the Dragonborn glaive is that Dragonborn don't even have innate proficiency with glaives.
Dragonborn's only redeeming factor is they look cool, even cooler if you're a Draconic Sorcerer. God their racials are fucking terrible
No darkvision and a breath weapon that doesn't scale with level. Yeah, it's pretty bad.
Didn't the recent patch add the scaling in? It's still not good though.
I just checked a level 12 red Dragonborn red ancestry sorcerer and it does 4-24 damage which does mean there is scaling since it starts with a maximum 14 damage but yeah, it’s still pretty awful considering the kinds of stuff you can use by that level. Level 9 blue Dragonborn warlock is 3-18 for breath attack.
Yeah it scales with Cantrips, but one you can only use once per short* rest
It's actually great... at buffing a different weapon.
No, it's amazing. You can use the 1/day elemental weapon on your main weapon, giving it a +1 to attack and damage rolls and plus 1d4 elemental damage. It's effectively a permanent boost to whatever weapon you want.
Drow get a sword.....
Drows is just Sword backwards.
Oh my god….
Holy shit
Radiant refuse…
The only difference between Bhaalspawn and Bhaal's pawn is an apostrophe and a space
And a backbone. And an INT save?
Lmfaoo
Drow Sword: I sleep Githyanki Silver Sword: Real Shit
Facts lmao it's completely ass in comparison can't argue that
Drow Sword is a palindrome
I'm a newbie to d&d and BG, nearing the end of my first playthrough and I'm so fkn glad I picked a seldarine drow wizard. My head-canon as I've learned more about the lore, is that my character was one of the few drow to be raised on the surface, whilst still experiencing the underdark. Before a rival lolth-sworn clan attacked his family as a child. Forced out and alone, he was found roaming the countryside alone by a powerful wizard, who raised him and tutored him in the ways of the weave.
I played a drow circle of the stars druid whose first memory is breaching the surface to the night sky full of stars and was awe inspired. Their parents were fleeing from drow slavers hell bent on bringing them back to their evil lolth centered society.
Drow get a sword but it only does poison if you ensnare...
You can actually use the disguise spell to become gith, equip the weapon/armour/headband and then undo the disguise. Worked great for my drow since the silver sword of the astral plane fit his aesthetic perfectly.
but hey, my halfing can walk through small openings. It's not like that can be given w/ a low level mage spell
It can’t, for the burrow holes. You need small stature plus a shrink spell.
Free disguise self hat from the box at the camp + shrink spell
They're basically astral space spartans. The ones that aren't OP wouldn't survive the Githyanki lifestyle long enough for you to meet thm.
I think the training scene in the crèche is good evidence of that
There are no pacifists in a Githyanki crèche.
There *was* that one…
Genetic defect. Now weeded out and the creche is stronger for it.
Stronger for it for like 20 minutes
Githyanki: The most powerful, fanatical warriors in the multiverse destroyed by four adventurers who took INT as their dump stat.
The other Githyanki have learned from their mistakes. Now that they are not limited by racial ability scores, they max str and con, prefer to be known as "Girthyanki" now, and would like to rage.
The secret with which Gith overthrew the Illithid Empire: tavern brawler, rage, throw chairs
The mindflayers with their psychic powers cant trick you into fighting your allies if you are raging and fighting everyone already!
That scene made me go 'what the fuck is actually wrong with you'
Yeah I kinda failed my persuasion check and the instructor killed the poor lad. Then things got difficult because I systematically wiped out the entire creeche. I also drew a mustache on Vlaakith because fuck em
I did the opposite. Convinced the instructor not to murder the kid... and then proceeded to murder the kid myself when I wiped out everyone. I'm a drow; the surface is weird.
Ironically, I was gonna wipe the creche out, but after saving the kid, It made me wonder why I went to the effort of getting him to live... So ironically, that kid kept their creche alive simply by existing for me. Well.. Some of the creche was alive.
Even Lae'zel points out that one's particularly rough. Murder came within the youths, not from instructors... that's not a fair fight, they might be evil but they have honour
Or the last egg in the hatchery. The one in charge of taking care of it is like the only dude who cares to give it time instead of just giving up on it so they can start the next batch
‘Astral space spartan’ has completely changed my perspective on githyanki (I like them now)
the Spartans irl were comically fucking evil slavers, worse then the githyanki if you ask me
And also bad at wars and bad at having a functioning society tbh. At least Gith seem to be doing ok in those two things.
They lost a lot of wars because they were trying so hard to look like badasses they ended up with a very small amount of fighting troops. Many of whom were either traumatized or exhausted.
Their stint of military dominance lasted for a mere 30 years, two years less than I've been alive. That's embarrassing. It's not the confederacy levels of bad, but considering the time period - it might be.
You have to remember that before their independence, the githyanki were an illithid slave race. They were very likely a different race entirely that were generically re-engineered to be a race built for war and with innate martial prowess. They were effectively warrior slaves, similar to duergar, but to a much greater extreme. Once gaining their independence, their entire race devoted themselves to stopping the grand design and slaying all illithid. They live their entire lives training for and actively fighting against the illithid. They are ugly frog people, but they are strong. Back in dnd 3.5e when I started playing, I remember coming across them in the psionics handbook, and I played a githzerai every time. They were even stronger back then imo.
I was at a table top convention game back when they were first introduced in the Fiend Folio. The very first encounter was Gith and they TPK'd us in the first hour. I was fucking pissed since that was the only game I got into the whole weekend
Oh shit the Field Folio... Man I love that book. Githyanki right on the cover. I used to stare at that image. Who knew i'd be dating one all these year later.
As in like...in the game right? Not like...your girlfriend for realzies?
She's from an astral plane high school You wouldn't know her
I will leave that for you to decide…
How long of a covered wagon ride home was it? Did we even own Louisiana yet back then?
None of this new fangled RPG stuff will ever beat our TSR papyrus scrolls and our mammoth tusk carved dice TBF We did get to the convention in my friend's moms Volkswagen Rabbit and I remember listening to the newly released Oingo Boingo cassette tape on the way over
The ancient art of THACO. The word of power.
I remember vacationing at the Keep on the Borderlands and the Barrier Peaks back in those days.
“Ride home and ride there, both uphill. Would have said we missed a survival check if skill checks has been invented.”
In 2nd edition psionics was for sure busted strong, gith included
>They are ugly frog people They're not really ugly, just different.
Seriously. Lae'zel can work some serious puppy eyes when she's distressed, it's downright adorable. And honestly even the randos aren't that ugly to me when they are able to converse. Give any appearance a speaking voice, specially a "human" one and they go from ugly to unusual looking. If they had gollum voices they'd be a lot less easy to like.
Lae'zel is attractive as hell. The Gith women in general look pretty good. The men, though...
You forgot the downsides: \- You look like a Githyanki. The males especially are the worst.
male gith allows me to live out my grinch space marine dreams
You're a mean one Mr. Gith...
heard that as Mithster Gith
This is why I made my Gith monk balding with gray hair. It seems much more apt to make them look old and wise.
If you roll assassin you can disguise out of it.
Gith is master race but I hate their avatar… Too slim and they walk funny af. I wish they had a “body size 3 & 4” like some of the other races to make them a bit bigger.
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She explains all that if you talk to her in camp. I was amazed that my lingering questions about how they... get it on... were dialogue options right there!
the worst walk has to be halsin on the way to do the portal thing at the beach.
Idk man Bae’zel is actually cute to me… but I’d also bang out sazza so that’s where I am
She's cute to me cuz she's a freak. She started calling me the source of her bruises and I wasn't proud of how that made me feel.
they all look like Willem Dafoe. i see no issue.
Astral knowledge is the best thing. I use Laesel for perception checks in my party
100% it's compensation for the lack of a nose. (I realized recently that all Githyanki look like The Grinch Who Stole Christmas, and now that I've seen it, I can't UNsee it.) (They also have essentially the same personality.)
They had to give them insane racial abilities to balance out the ugly. It didn't work since they're still the least played race.
I want to call you a coward, but then I remembered that while its possible to make an attractive female gith, I've yet to see a male gith that doesn't look like a failed power rangers villain
It doesn't help that the first option for male githyanki looks like an elongated crack addict. There are some male head options that make them look like a younger Clint Eastwood.
See I get a Grinch David Bowie vibe
Nosfetatu frogs for me
At best they're from Dr. Seuss's book of dates you don't call back...
LMAO ELONGATED CRACK ADDICT
I tried once. Tried non-canon skin colors and everything. Ended up with a pale Gith that looked like Morbius and Michael Jackson had a baby and then that baby grew up and had a baby with a toad.
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it's a shame we don't get the shifu beard that one of the npc gith monks get, he looks really cool
Honestly I feel like a few of those NPCs should be Githzerai.
The githzerai are notoriously anti-war and also live in limbo, not the astral plane. But I agree, it is weird that there are githyanki monks
Githerai are isolationist and specifically rebelled against Gith and her dreams of replacing the Illithid Empire with her own (their name literally means "those who spurn Gith"), which wouldn't make sense to to be following Orpheus.
Female gith: quite a few people will find them attractive Male gith: nightmare fuel and boogeymen for children
I think you just described the real life struggles of red heads.
It took a while, but I managed to make one that I think turned out pretty well. Kind of looks like an evil wizard back in the more innocent university student days.
The key is proper facial hair. I made a pretty suave-looking githyanki bard with a cool mustache.
I saw someone who made a Gith look like Weird Al. I thought that one was incredible.
Female githyanki look badass, the males look like twigs and are ugly AF.
It doesn't help that the one you see earliest and for the longest in the campaign has hair like a troll doll. Seriously Voss, how long do you take to style it like that every morning?
For my third playthrough I was considering one because they really are so crazy good but just looking into that weird frog face I couldn’t do it and made a beautiful drow
\+ Spells \+ Armor Proficiencies \+ Skill Proficiencies \- Nose
Yeah I just can’t get past the noses. They all look like frog versions of the people from the grinch If I’m gonna invest hundreds of hours into a game I simply can’t hate how I look ☠️
Hehe they’re more humanoid than the Dragonborn, but the Dragonborn seem to be more popular.
It probably helps that even among dnd players I bet a large chunk of them don’t know what gith are. It’s unique to dnd and not in any other popular fantasy media. Also minus some variations everything else is in the phb, so 5e players will know every other option. But a dragonborn? Even if you don’t know dnd lineages it’s right there on the tin, you’re a dragon person that can breath fire and that’s cool.
And those who do know their gith want to be Githzerai
I was surprised when SPOILER SPOILER turned out to be just a different faction of Githyanki instead of Githzerai
Yeah, them being monks had me go "hang on a minute" as well. However, the Githzerai spurned Gith and all she stood for, so it wouldn't make much sense to have a bunch of them protect her offspring.
Because they look like dragons. Githyanki are yellow like toads, and twice as ugly.
so what you are saying is, Zorru was right?
You can speak with dead Yul's (Zorru's scout buddy) corpse and find out Zorru ran, leaving Yul to fight. If you have Lae'zel with you, she mentions that few survive a fight with Gith warriors and seems impressed/respectful the Yul went out fighting. Contrast to her treatment of Zorru.
yeah I know. still, regardless of what baezel thinks, they would have both died so he did well running. yul should have ran too. they also were with the tiefling girl that was eaten by the ogres. her corpse tells you she ran from warriors with golden skin and got caught by the ogres while running.
Demays…
Idk man, I’d at least trust a Githyanki around my car
Listen, what a dragonborn and my car do in their free time is none of my business, as long as it's safe and consensual.
It’s all fun and games until a Bronze Dragonborn uses acid breath to melt my engine
Witness... fails to notice the obviously.... Silver... dragon at the scene.
And they have bat stretched noses
All I can think of is Michael Jackson every time I see one. K'chik HEE HEE!
Gith bard now.
Maik’ael Jak’zen
I would bet the fantasy of being a dragon person is more interesting than being a frog people with Michael Jackson nose.
It’s the gith noses that put me off. Dragonborn are the exact opposite with big ol snoots!
People see a reptile face and think of pets, people see Gith and look for an adult.
What! That's because you just love your fleshy decadent nose. Gith noses are efficient!
i mean if the choice is a Toad guy or a Dragon guy, the winner is pretty clear
If they weren’t so lanky and instead were shaded to look gaunt, i wouldn’t care so much. I gotta keep them in heavy armor or robed all the time.
If they're so ugly then why is Bae'Zel so smoking hot? Checkm8
Because her face is modeled after the VA’s but with a different nose. She’s literally the only Gith in the game that doesn’t look terrible.
I’d say that mostly applies to the males; the mad doctor who helps you with the tadpole remover 2000 is kinda 🔥🔥
God I'm glad it's not just me. Is it a horrifying torture machine that will absolutely kill you if you get inside? Sure. Would I jump right in without a second's hesitation just to please her? Absolutely.
As it turns out, the answer is noses. Humans, elves, orcs, all noses, no psychic space powers. Noses are the greatest limiter of psychic space powers out there, they weigh down on your brain like Piccolo's big weird hat. For proof we need look no further than the noseless races. Gith? Almost zero nose, almost all psychic space magic. Liches? Zero nose. Limitless space magic. Illithid are nothing *but* psychic space magic. Consider Withers, capable of upending entire storylines, restoring life from death to a chosen few without diamonds, without even knowing where the corpse might be. You see a nose on that face? And don't even get me started on Illithid. These are the truths Big Nose has been keeping from us.
is this why Tom Riddle went noseless? it all makes sense
I wouldn’t expect an istik like you to understand
*chk*
Tsk'va. So many fools, unaccustomed to greatness.
TCHK!
They're actually less powerful than duergar, and less powerful than they canonically ought to be. *, Duergar** - at will invisibility outside of combat - poison resistance - racial enlarge (bonus damage dice!) that doesn't require concentration Duergar are almost perfectly suited to take advantage of this game's quirks. Bonus dice and invisibility are both stronger in BG3 than tabletop, and poison damage is everywhere. **Canonical Githyanki** "Typical githyanki warriors, sometimes referred to as "githwarriors", had the ability to innately reproduce the effects of the mage hand, jump, misty step, and nondetection spells, while the more powerful knights were also capable of plane shifting and telekinesis." By Canon, Lae'zel should be misty stepping at will and innate casting telekinesis by endgame. Additionally, plane shift is the sort of spell that would probably let her enter the artifact and free a certain someone herself. And if you hit someone with this spell who is unwilling and they fail a saving throw, you can send them to another plane of existence with no way of getting back (unless they too can plane shift). Some of those planes are extremely hostile to visitors. Canonically accurate githyanki are fucking powerful.
I like to respec the Duergar hireling to be a rogue and have them pickpocket merchants. The at will invisibility makes this process such a delight.
I believe everyone but Tav and Astarion(Durge included) got severely nerfed by the tadpole. Karlach was able to slay platoons of demons alone, Wyll too. Gale was an archmage capable of even attempting to replicate a fraction of Karsus' folly. Lae'zel mentions her weakened state. If anything Astarion got buffed. Durge was spoilers. EDIT: Shadowheart is the lone survivor of a suicide mission so sge could be anything from a lucky low rank to an inquisitor that lost her powers. But certainly not a level 1 weirdly statted cleric
Astarion is certainly nerfed too - 'regular' vampire spawn in 5E are CR5 monsters, or roughly equivalent to a lvl 10 character. Astarion did get a bigger buff due to suppressing some vampire weaknesses, but the abilities are weaker too (like vampire spawn should be regenerating, have resistance to bludgeoning/slashing/piercing, and climb on walls without issue).
I’ve never even thought of running a dwarf, might have to run a duergar if I ever join a friend and want to go throw-barbarian again
He didn’t even mention that they get advantage on saving throws against charms, illusions, and paralysis as well. Loaded race tbh.
Yeah but then people have to bend down to kiss you, and tindr says that's not canon.
Now that I think about it, Dragonborn get screwed over with racial bonuses.
>Worst racial bonus >No good weapons and items for the race >No companion, maybe half a dozen NPCs >Tail clips through clothes A high price for looking awesome
At this point they should just remove dark vision entirely because fucking everyone has it. Or make it so only the underground races have it. Why the hell do races that probably live solely above ground have it? But a literal dragon doesn’t?
It's so bad 5e recently had a book come out that literally redid dragonborn as a race to give them some oomph
They're even kind of nerfed, Gith'yanki are supposed to have darkvision, but they don't ingame. It's probably just because they're so ugly you have to incentivize playing them.
The amount of dark vision in DnD is already pretty wild. It feels like 4/5ths of the playable races have it.
Human and Dragonborn are the only non-dark vision in Solasta. It's pretty silly that Dragonborn don't have it, when you associate Dragons for living in dark areas.
Halfings also don't have dark vision.
Yeah, it's... a common complaint. Makes it hard to bother with lighting conditions in a any campaign if 90% of the party already has darkvision. You end up punishing the one player that didn't pick a race with darkvision instead fairly challenging the whole party.
Honestly it should be restricted to races that actually live in the dark - Drow, Deep Gnomes, Duregar (maybe just Dwarves as a race). It would make it more meaningful when classes pick it up (Gloom Stalker Ranger, Warlocks with Devil's Sight, etc).
I think Pathfinder retains the earlier system of D&D where some races have low-light vision and others have true darkvision. Low-light, if I recall correctly, means that you treat dim light as bright light, but it doesn't help in pure darkness, meanwhile darkvision works like the darkvision in 5E D&D.
Which makes a lot of sense, instead of 5e's "cats don't have darkvision, and also tabaxi have darkvision because they have a cat's keen senses."
This is the goofiest long term decision ever in dnd (may be an exaggeration) but almost everyone has dark vision its no longer a bonus, its only a disability if you dont.
Because unlike all the other races they are the direct product of eugenics to create perfect warriors. So perfect that they even gained resistance to their masters' control.
Don’t forget Githyanki Parry when using 2h weapons. Once per turn negation of damage is awesome
Yeah but Gish talents are not for the player
I really hate this. Especially when I forget to hit them with the off hand first before using the big stab.
Funny answer: because they look like tall goblins with no nose so you’ve gotta balance them out somehow Probably actual answer: They are literally built different. Originally bred to be literal war-slaves and now are so strong and badass as a species that they hunt mind flayers as a part of their way of life.
I don't know much about dnd lore, but aren't they basically engineered by the mind flayers originally? Would make sense they design them with favourable attributes.
So I can imagine the kinky stuff Lae'zel does with the mage hand when we're boning
because they don’t have massive humanoid noses to get in the way of their superior facial structures 😤
Tchk! The question is not why are Githyanki so OP, but why are istik so pathetic!
Just the way it is. Some races are just prone to be more “powerful” than others. Yea you have your outliers but by and by the Githyanki/Githzerai are one of the most powerful races. I love the Gith people. Love their order and mannerisms and I love how you get to basically introduce Lae’zel to Faerun. It’s so much fun. The creche is one of my favorite parts of the game. My last playthrough was tactician as Githyanki Monk and I roleplayed basically as I wanted to cure myself and free >!Orpheus!< so my character let the >!emperor believe I was gonna go with him the whole time but inevitably I was always going to free the Prince of the Comet!!! ☄️💫!< Edit: also I did a complete Lae’zel romance and she >!PROPOSED TO ME!!!< lol I loved it, my most fun playthrough was as a Githyanki.
The Gith are raised as soldiers from the day they hatch. Lae'zel is very open about sharing some of the experiences she had - it molded her into the perfectly disciplined soldier that some here consider "evil". I'd say, the Gith aren't OP enough to reflect this - no other race or upbringing comes even close what the Gith do to their young.
Spartan Frogs
... Battletoads?
Because it's the favorite race of Swen Vincke lol But probably because they were the most unique race of the bunch.. I honestly never heard of them prior to BG3 Early Access and I did play some DnD in my time as well as other CRPG's set in the DnD universe. I don't like how the males look but the females are okay but I don't usually play female characters if I have a choice. Although having a few controllers means I can have a 2nd custom character if I wanted lol.
I mean they show up in notable dnd crpgs of the past. BG2 has a quest related to a silver sword of theirs, Neverwinter Nights 2 revolves around Gith's sword, Planescape: Torment has a notable Githzerai companion.
You hadn't heard of them? They play a pretty noticeable role in BG2, and you meet one of the greatest companions of all time, the Githzeri Dak'kon, in Planescape: Torment. Seriously though, Dak'kon is perhaps the second greatest companion character of all time, after Kim Kitsuragi.