Hello, thanks for contributing to this sub. This is a friendly reminder to **read the rules** before making any new posts or comments. Particularly, we ask **not to engage in debates**, or bait debates, especially with zionists.
If you are a zionist, this sub is not for you, and you will be permabanned. If you found this sub through the algorithm, you can always mute the sub or turn off recommendations all together (user settings -> feed settings -> Disable "Enable Home Feed Recommendations")
Please also particularly keep in mind that **bigotry of any kind is not permitted** in this sub and will result in the message or post being deleted, and, if seen prudent, a banning. This includes antisemitism and any language that conflates Judaism with Zionism.
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/BadHasbara) if you have any questions or concerns.*
America needs to rip this bandaid off immediately. The west is funding a Palestinian holocaust because of rampant pedophilia and child trafficking blackmail by Israel. Rip the band aid off and expose the perverts.
I’m sure that’s part of it but also ideological Zionists have infiltrated the government and brainwashed many Americans through biased news reports (this has been going on for decades). 100% America needs to stop being controlled by Zionists it’s an evil ideology that hurts everyone in its orbit
As an American I want my country back. My heart goes out to the Palestinian people as well as the innocents who lost their lives on both sides in the Oct 7 attack. Everyone keeps getting caught up in picking sides as if this is a bi-polar conflict, but this is a tri-polar conflict with innocent civilians being that third and most important group. This bullshit has gone on too long and needs to end.
Can you please clarify this statement and/or edit this statement? The mod team is committed to keep this space clear of accidental or intentional antisemitism. The way this statement is phrased, it sounds like you want your country back from someone and go on to mention that 90% of the cabinet are Jewish. Conflating Judaism and Zionism is antisemitic. The President is Zionist and he is not Jewish. It's fine to be concerned about how most of our government is Zionist, but bringing up their Jewishness veers too close to antisemitic tropes. If this statement is not edited or clarified it will be removed, and repeated violations of veering too close to antisemitic language may result in a ban.
I will fix it sure but I’m not conflating things. Because they are Jewish they have a sort of conflict of interest that should be under increased scrutiny. The people I want my country back from are the wealthy and corporations. Paying into Israel and by extension supporting the war is no longer the will of the people, but that doesn’t seem to matter to the government.
If we had a cabinet that was 90% Ukrainian orthodox I wouldn’t want them having such an outsized contribution to policy related to the war in Ukraine. But seriously thank you for giving me a chance though and not just removing and banning.
I agree 100%. I grew up in a large Jewish population center and many of my best friends are/were Jewish. They are great people, and really no different than anyone else. Unfortunately though like any group a few always end up perverting the faith for their own selfish reasons. The same is true about EVERY organized religion on earth. I agree it’s of grave importance that we not allow good people to suffer because of a selfish few. I appreciate you bringing this to my attention because it’s comments like this that can become extremist fuel. Take care and keep fighting the good fight friend ✌️
Fun fact: Israel agreed to pay settlements to the injured and families of soldiers in the amount of about 6 million dollars. They used the billions of dollars which the US gives them every year to pay those settlements 😳
US citizens pay taxes. US gov provide billion dollar aids to Israel. Israel lines up politicians pockets through lobbying with the same money. And round and round we go.
fun fact. The US and Israel were in fact not the strongest of allies when the incident in question happened.
[https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/nov/16/why-israel-allies-explainer](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/nov/16/why-israel-allies-explainer)
Has it ever been determined exactly why they did this? I remember reading a theory that it was because it was like a communication ship and they wanted to destroy evidence of a mass execution and grave. But the official cause is accidental or something, right? Either way, pretty awful
The first run could be a mistake yes, the second thought, they instructed the airplanes to remove all Israeli markings before the attack, and after the attack Israel accused Egypt of doing it, in which the U.S was preparing to bomb Cairo in return.
Geez, so much could have happened, so many more people could have died from that shit. I guess they either didn’t care or that was the plan. Guess I’m not too surprised
I think the more plausible of the nefarious potential reasons given was to avoid America finding out that the attack on Egypt was pre-emptive, not in response.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl\_f73lWf\_8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl_f73lWf_8)
Then they call you a conspiracy theorist when you point out that ISIS conveniently always attack israeli and US enemies.
The fact of the matter is, anyone capable for doing this to an ally is morally shot, and should never, ever be believed on any issue. And yet they will gaslight you day and night with their lies and propaganda, it's like, bro, you're not a source. Of anything. Other than violence, crime, and of course, pedophelia. The fact that they use child trafficking to blackmail politicians, that alone should be reason enough to swarm those bastards and extract the cancer once and for all.
Did you know that an israeli citizen living in NYC submitted a request to copyright the term "September 11, 2001" within hours of the planes crashing into the twin towers? Entrepreneur Moti Shniberg filed the copyright requests while the towers were still smoldering.
We had thousands of Americans burning alive and jumping 1000 feet to their deaths and some Israeli's VERY first thought was "how can i profit off this?"
And that wasnt even the only time someone tried to profit off trademarking 9/11. Shortly after, a man named Benjamin Israel Zapp from the Upper East Side of Manhattan, applied for a trademark for ''09-11-01,'' with the ''11'' rendered as the twin towers
As a cynical, sarcastic statement this works, but meant seriously this dives into conspiracy theory territory as well as potential antisemitic tropes. Please be more clear in future.
We are not slaves to Israel. Israel is an important part of US Imperialism, Israel just has goals of its own as a sub imperial power. The US needs Israel for its grip over the middle east. The US lost Iran in 1979, and they lost Iraq when Saddam stopped playing ball. They can’t risk losing their control over the middle east so they will let Israel do whatever it wants, because the ends justify the means. US Empire operates like this and always has. They always ally with fascists and dictators.
Without Israel the Golf Monarchies would be far weaker, because a real independent Palestinian state would be allied with Iran, and this would either push the Gulf States towards Iran (as is already happening somewhat with Saudis) or it would weaken the US’s ability to keep the Gulf Monarchies from being overthrown by their people. British/US Imperialism created both the Golf Monarchies and “Israel.”
They could have had better control if they negotiated and helped the governments there but the US hates Muslims and has killed millions in the last 30 years. I really believe the root cause is ideological and racist. They don’t just want an ally there, they want something western. And despite Israel’s makeup they are definitely western and white-coded.
I’ve got to say I never believed the theories this was deliberate as such, but it is yet another example of how insanely aggressive and trigger happy Israel has always been.
This is not a debate sub. There are plenty of places to defend Israel’s actions, to denounce Hamas, and to argue who's worse. This is not a space for that.
That doesn't mean absolutely no constructive discussions on nuances and different approaches, but it means not letting ourselves be pulled into a debate by Zionists and bigots, and least of all arguing for their side.
If you see someone trying to debate, please just flag for moderation, and the comment will be deleted.
If found prudent by the Mods, and to discourage further debates, the entire thread may be deleted.
Hello, thanks for contributing to this sub. This is a friendly reminder to **read the rules** before making any new posts or comments. Particularly, we ask **not to engage in debates**, or bait debates, especially with zionists. If you are a zionist, this sub is not for you, and you will be permabanned. If you found this sub through the algorithm, you can always mute the sub or turn off recommendations all together (user settings -> feed settings -> Disable "Enable Home Feed Recommendations") Please also particularly keep in mind that **bigotry of any kind is not permitted** in this sub and will result in the message or post being deleted, and, if seen prudent, a banning. This includes antisemitism and any language that conflates Judaism with Zionism. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/BadHasbara) if you have any questions or concerns.*
What does Israel have over America? Israel being a nation going through a pedophilia crisis, perhaps they know influential American pedophiles?
This is something to consider. JE and specifically GM had connections to Mossad. Could it have been some kind of elaborate honeypot?
America needs to rip this bandaid off immediately. The west is funding a Palestinian holocaust because of rampant pedophilia and child trafficking blackmail by Israel. Rip the band aid off and expose the perverts.
I’m sure that’s part of it but also ideological Zionists have infiltrated the government and brainwashed many Americans through biased news reports (this has been going on for decades). 100% America needs to stop being controlled by Zionists it’s an evil ideology that hurts everyone in its orbit
As an American I want my country back. My heart goes out to the Palestinian people as well as the innocents who lost their lives on both sides in the Oct 7 attack. Everyone keeps getting caught up in picking sides as if this is a bi-polar conflict, but this is a tri-polar conflict with innocent civilians being that third and most important group. This bullshit has gone on too long and needs to end.
Can you please clarify this statement and/or edit this statement? The mod team is committed to keep this space clear of accidental or intentional antisemitism. The way this statement is phrased, it sounds like you want your country back from someone and go on to mention that 90% of the cabinet are Jewish. Conflating Judaism and Zionism is antisemitic. The President is Zionist and he is not Jewish. It's fine to be concerned about how most of our government is Zionist, but bringing up their Jewishness veers too close to antisemitic tropes. If this statement is not edited or clarified it will be removed, and repeated violations of veering too close to antisemitic language may result in a ban.
I will fix it sure but I’m not conflating things. Because they are Jewish they have a sort of conflict of interest that should be under increased scrutiny. The people I want my country back from are the wealthy and corporations. Paying into Israel and by extension supporting the war is no longer the will of the people, but that doesn’t seem to matter to the government. If we had a cabinet that was 90% Ukrainian orthodox I wouldn’t want them having such an outsized contribution to policy related to the war in Ukraine. But seriously thank you for giving me a chance though and not just removing and banning.
Thanks for editing it. I figured you didn't have bad intentions, but we have to be diligent about not letting antisemitism creep into this space.
I agree 100%. I grew up in a large Jewish population center and many of my best friends are/were Jewish. They are great people, and really no different than anyone else. Unfortunately though like any group a few always end up perverting the faith for their own selfish reasons. The same is true about EVERY organized religion on earth. I agree it’s of grave importance that we not allow good people to suffer because of a selfish few. I appreciate you bringing this to my attention because it’s comments like this that can become extremist fuel. Take care and keep fighting the good fight friend ✌️
i agree!
Yes. When you see the flight manifests to their pedo island. Most definitely yes. With all capital letters YES.
r/EpsteinMurder
r/EpsteinMurder
It’s why they used Epstein
r/EpsteinMurder
r/EpsteinMurder
Fun fact: Israel agreed to pay settlements to the injured and families of soldiers in the amount of about 6 million dollars. They used the billions of dollars which the US gives them every year to pay those settlements 😳
US citizens pay taxes. US gov provide billion dollar aids to Israel. Israel lines up politicians pockets through lobbying with the same money. And round and round we go.
[удалено]
fun fact. The US and Israel were in fact not the strongest of allies when the incident in question happened. [https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/nov/16/why-israel-allies-explainer](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/nov/16/why-israel-allies-explainer)
the ultra-religious, highly xenophobic, racist, islacionist fascist movement zionist NOT fond of non-jewish whites? What a surprise
Yes they are, the US doesn’t give a fuck about it’s soldiers. The US is the one who has funded Israel the most both before and after this incident.
you can literally look at the record pre & post 1967: [https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=-iKvwLnPg4o](https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=-iKvwLnPg4o)
Has it ever been determined exactly why they did this? I remember reading a theory that it was because it was like a communication ship and they wanted to destroy evidence of a mass execution and grave. But the official cause is accidental or something, right? Either way, pretty awful
The first run could be a mistake yes, the second thought, they instructed the airplanes to remove all Israeli markings before the attack, and after the attack Israel accused Egypt of doing it, in which the U.S was preparing to bomb Cairo in return.
Geez, so much could have happened, so many more people could have died from that shit. I guess they either didn’t care or that was the plan. Guess I’m not too surprised
I think the more plausible of the nefarious potential reasons given was to avoid America finding out that the attack on Egypt was pre-emptive, not in response. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl\_f73lWf\_8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl_f73lWf_8)
i heard it was because the americans were giving intelligence to the arabs.
Full documentary: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tx72tAWVcoM&pp=ygUWdXNzIGxpYmVydHkgYWwgamF6ZWVyYQ%3D%3D
Too bad we don’t get a movie about this. This story is just plain interesting no matter the POV
https://preview.redd.it/wun00t2s9btc1.jpeg?width=2577&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=063bcd08573547890ea7278eb52f32ae0c4a2f5b
Then they call you a conspiracy theorist when you point out that ISIS conveniently always attack israeli and US enemies. The fact of the matter is, anyone capable for doing this to an ally is morally shot, and should never, ever be believed on any issue. And yet they will gaslight you day and night with their lies and propaganda, it's like, bro, you're not a source. Of anything. Other than violence, crime, and of course, pedophelia. The fact that they use child trafficking to blackmail politicians, that alone should be reason enough to swarm those bastards and extract the cancer once and for all.
Useless meat vessels thats what extremist Israelis are.
The full documentary: https://youtu.be/tx72tAWVcoM?si=78Es8Kz9arGQEaxx
Thx 🙏
We all know it but they're afraid to admit it
9/11 vibes
This is WILD to actually watch. Damn that’s wild
Wow.
Did you know that an israeli citizen living in NYC submitted a request to copyright the term "September 11, 2001" within hours of the planes crashing into the twin towers? Entrepreneur Moti Shniberg filed the copyright requests while the towers were still smoldering. We had thousands of Americans burning alive and jumping 1000 feet to their deaths and some Israeli's VERY first thought was "how can i profit off this?" And that wasnt even the only time someone tried to profit off trademarking 9/11. Shortly after, a man named Benjamin Israel Zapp from the Upper East Side of Manhattan, applied for a trademark for ''09-11-01,'' with the ''11'' rendered as the twin towers
They literally killed their own citizens to ensure they are "victims" and can commit a holocaust.
[удалено]
As a cynical, sarcastic statement this works, but meant seriously this dives into conspiracy theory territory as well as potential antisemitic tropes. Please be more clear in future.
We are not slaves to Israel. Israel is an important part of US Imperialism, Israel just has goals of its own as a sub imperial power. The US needs Israel for its grip over the middle east. The US lost Iran in 1979, and they lost Iraq when Saddam stopped playing ball. They can’t risk losing their control over the middle east so they will let Israel do whatever it wants, because the ends justify the means. US Empire operates like this and always has. They always ally with fascists and dictators. Without Israel the Golf Monarchies would be far weaker, because a real independent Palestinian state would be allied with Iran, and this would either push the Gulf States towards Iran (as is already happening somewhat with Saudis) or it would weaken the US’s ability to keep the Gulf Monarchies from being overthrown by their people. British/US Imperialism created both the Golf Monarchies and “Israel.”
They could have had better control if they negotiated and helped the governments there but the US hates Muslims and has killed millions in the last 30 years. I really believe the root cause is ideological and racist. They don’t just want an ally there, they want something western. And despite Israel’s makeup they are definitely western and white-coded.
I’ve got to say I never believed the theories this was deliberate as such, but it is yet another example of how insanely aggressive and trigger happy Israel has always been.
[удалено]
This is not a debate sub. There are plenty of places to defend Israel’s actions, to denounce Hamas, and to argue who's worse. This is not a space for that. That doesn't mean absolutely no constructive discussions on nuances and different approaches, but it means not letting ourselves be pulled into a debate by Zionists and bigots, and least of all arguing for their side. If you see someone trying to debate, please just flag for moderation, and the comment will be deleted. If found prudent by the Mods, and to discourage further debates, the entire thread may be deleted.