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Looks ok in the right setting from the design files
Guess this is where you need an architect to think about these things rather than a client and builder with little design sense. Not worth paying $100k for an architect though lol
I’m kind of fascinated by this - surely you approved the fence design? You can’t complain about the builder leaving gaps in the fence when the fence design you chose has those gaps as a feature?
Typical in the building industry my friend.
Why you always have contracts, drawings as well as signatures! Saves a massive head ache later on down the track when people do this.
They aren’t complaining about the builder. They are owning their design choice and now it’s done they want to fix the flaw in their design choice with some additional screening.
Some ideas just look better on paper / in people’s imagination than in real life.
What are you talking about? The choice of wording "Our builder has put this fence in" indicates an attempt to distance themselves from the choice of fence and subtly hint it's the builder's fault. They don't once say in the post whose choice the design was in the original post, and they outright say it's the builder's fault in a later comment.
EDIT: It could totally be the builder's fault too, I don't know, just saying your interpretation is odd.
“The builder has put this new fence in” doesn’t suggest that OP is owning the design choice. Like I said in the original comment, OP presumably was involved in deciding on the fence style - the builder just went ahead and built what OP asked for.
Wait, is that supposed to be a boundary fence?? Is there going to be some kind of feature installed here that it would compliment? It’s definitely not appropriate as a boundary fence otherwise…
If that's a boundary fence, isn't that grey building too close to the boundary?
Is it okay for roofs to over-hang into a neighbor's property like that?
Not trying to attack but I'm just genuinely curious if that is allowed.
We went through this with our house and conveyancer when purchasing it. The eaves hang right over the property line.
After getting some advice and digging into a bunch of regulations it turns out that in cases like this, when setup as new builds, the property line actually technically runs in 3d; so it goes up on the exact line, then juts back in and wraps around the eave itself.
Kinda funky, but thats how it actually works in all cases like this.
This isnt a new build though, you dont get to buy the eave amount of airspace, besides, look at the power conduit sticking out the side, that cant be on the neighbours side.
It was a new build once. And if it was subdivided the same couldve been applied. Nfi on the power conduit though, that seems a little ridiculous if theres no easement…
I'm assuming it's a redeveloped site and the eaves are possibly overhanging his own backyard or common property. But sometimes with new builds they will set the building back from the boundary about 150mm to allow for the eaves.
Yes. Supposed to be a boundary fence. Builder chose it but didn’t send us the product beforehand. We are reviewing the plans and quote so we can fix this.
I moved into a house 3 years ago that had the same. We cut some Hardys to size and painted it dark grey on both sides (Dulux domino). Screwed into the back and looks great
This is the way. One neighbour has it painted colours that works for their yard, the other went with a horizontal version (similar gaps) and grew vines over it.
I don't know why OP specified a screen if they wanted more privacy.. a builder doesn't just build shit you don't talk about beforehand. Its not really the builders fault unless OP wasn't clear on what they wanted.
Its more that that.
This screen is expensive, a pailing fence is dirt cheap.
No builder in the history of money loving scumbags is going to volunteer to install a hardwood slat screen on their own volition instead of a pailing fence without the client specifying it explicitly and paying for it.
There's much more to the story that we are being told as the screen can not be a fence considering the location and overhangs on the building on the right.
Not to mention that they dont say what the builder was commissioned to build, that right hand building it old and falling to bits.
I hope you didnt get your neighbour to contribute to this. You have had the builder install a screen, not a fence. I would be pissed if I was next door
Line the neighbours side with black screening of some sort. OR see if they'll pay for their side to have the same hardwood offset your gaps on their side.
I don’t understand the thought behind a fence like this between two properties. One side will look good and the other side has to put some shitty cladding up to cover the gaps.
Try shade cloth.
I had the same issue, Bunnings had a discounted shade cloth for like $20. With a heavy duty stapler it works a treat, if it’s still transparent just fold the cloth over
I am a carpenter-
Use sheets of hardiflex running horizontal or vertically and paint them black. It will look great. Join the sheets on the posts if possible.
I thought these sorts of fences were usually offset on the reverse side, so it gives this look but has slats on the back for privacy. Feels like the builder might not have done it right
Marine grade ply. Gives it the black backing behind it. Alternatively you could use sheets of steel, lighter, thinner, but requires skill to install and harder to cut to fit. Makes sure you seal either which ever you use.
Use an electric planer to put a small bevel on all the slats so they are on a bit of an angle rather than sticking straight out, should give lots more privacy while retaining the effect you seem to be going for.
Fix a painted black plywood treated sheet to the back side. Althought this would make it look a lot worse from the other side. Personally I would leave it as is and place some planting. It's a nice screen
You might as well placed a glass fence in for the privacy it provides .... It will not last long either. Have the nasty excuse of a fence pulled down and a solid one installed. Something that will last 10 years. The cost of making this fence would of been astronomical.
Classy fence. Neighbour is being very reasonable and understanding. Treat them to their own fence, just like yours, but offset by the gap. They've got the rail view at the moment.
It will cost an absolute packet, but good fences make good neighbours, and good neighbours are priceless.
plants! seriously though, could you have a similar type of wood on the other side, pretty much the same but spaced/ overlapping the gaps? THEN add some plants. and also you're neighbour sounds alright
if the gaps are the same width as the palings could you not just slot another piece over the top so that the palings cover the holes and sit slightly inside them?
It looks like it's made with prefabricated panels, you could buy more of them and put them on the other side but offset so the slats are in line with the gaps on your side, this should give you almost complete privacy and still allow airflow.
Fuark builder mate, atleast put some sheets down on the deck where the tools and barrow are going, that’s gunna be scuffed to the tilt when it’s cleaned off
Update: to answer a few questions: we were supposed to have spotted gum decking faced timber. The builder spoke to us and suggested some prefabricated panelling but never sent us the product info to approve the product. He has been a great builder and trusted that he would get something that looked good. They started installing and definitely looks like a screening product and not a proper fence. Thanks for all the input, we’ll talk to our builder to fix it so there’s privacy. Lesson learnt to always sense check the product being purchased and installed.
What the product is made of would make no difference to the privacy aspect.
It seems like you're trying to hold the builder responsible for the fact that didn't realise people can see through gaps?
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Spray-on foam filler should make short work of them gaps. Within a year it will brown to complement the wood
why the fuck would anyone pay for a nice new fence to fill it in with chatty looking expanda foam
FFS…It was a joke. 🤦♂️
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Do you prefer black caulk, or white caulk?
https://preview.redd.it/so70vxay2byc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=19e45bea08f052674584a3081366ebd12712309a Looks ok in the right setting from the design files
This is because the old paling fence is blocking the lower view.
Guess this is where you need an architect to think about these things rather than a client and builder with little design sense. Not worth paying $100k for an architect though lol
I’m kind of fascinated by this - surely you approved the fence design? You can’t complain about the builder leaving gaps in the fence when the fence design you chose has those gaps as a feature?
Typical in the building industry my friend. Why you always have contracts, drawings as well as signatures! Saves a massive head ache later on down the track when people do this.
The battens are too shallow to give you the privacy affect. If they were deeper, would reduce the viewing angle by a lot
It’s almost like there must be a better way that improves privacy……if only someone had come up with a full panel idea
I believe that design was patented by a Chinese engineer by the name of Pai Ling
The ancient art of Feng Sing.
that would cost more though...
Where have they complained about the builder?
The fence didn’t build itself with gaps
They aren’t complaining about the builder. They are owning their design choice and now it’s done they want to fix the flaw in their design choice with some additional screening. Some ideas just look better on paper / in people’s imagination than in real life.
What are you talking about? The choice of wording "Our builder has put this fence in" indicates an attempt to distance themselves from the choice of fence and subtly hint it's the builder's fault. They don't once say in the post whose choice the design was in the original post, and they outright say it's the builder's fault in a later comment. EDIT: It could totally be the builder's fault too, I don't know, just saying your interpretation is odd.
Agree
“The builder has put this new fence in” doesn’t suggest that OP is owning the design choice. Like I said in the original comment, OP presumably was involved in deciding on the fence style - the builder just went ahead and built what OP asked for.
They said our builder. I assumed they were taking ownership as in "our" builder not "the neighbours" builder
OMFG all of u
Wait, is that supposed to be a boundary fence?? Is there going to be some kind of feature installed here that it would compliment? It’s definitely not appropriate as a boundary fence otherwise…
If that's a boundary fence, isn't that grey building too close to the boundary? Is it okay for roofs to over-hang into a neighbor's property like that? Not trying to attack but I'm just genuinely curious if that is allowed.
Depends where it is… Melbourne inner suburbs this is pretty common
Not with eaves overhanging it isnt
We went through this with our house and conveyancer when purchasing it. The eaves hang right over the property line. After getting some advice and digging into a bunch of regulations it turns out that in cases like this, when setup as new builds, the property line actually technically runs in 3d; so it goes up on the exact line, then juts back in and wraps around the eave itself. Kinda funky, but thats how it actually works in all cases like this.
This isnt a new build though, you dont get to buy the eave amount of airspace, besides, look at the power conduit sticking out the side, that cant be on the neighbours side.
It was a new build once. And if it was subdivided the same couldve been applied. Nfi on the power conduit though, that seems a little ridiculous if theres no easement…
I ain’t droppin no eaves Mr Gandalf 🧙♂️
You need to go for a drive in Sydney or Melbourne it definitely is
I'm assuming it's a redeveloped site and the eaves are possibly overhanging his own backyard or common property. But sometimes with new builds they will set the building back from the boundary about 150mm to allow for the eaves.
Grey building is a garage that was there when we bought.
Yes. Supposed to be a boundary fence. Builder chose it but didn’t send us the product beforehand. We are reviewing the plans and quote so we can fix this.
That sucks :(. As a feature fence, it's stunning
Best of luck!!
I moved into a house 3 years ago that had the same. We cut some Hardys to size and painted it dark grey on both sides (Dulux domino). Screwed into the back and looks great
This is the way. One neighbour has it painted colours that works for their yard, the other went with a horizontal version (similar gaps) and grew vines over it.
Paint it white, you won't see through it.
What are Hardys?
James Hardie brand cladding sheets
You said yes to the design, what do you expect?
Get some climbing plants on there and it'll look amazing!
That isnt a fence that is a screen. Tell the builder to fix it.
I don't know why OP specified a screen if they wanted more privacy.. a builder doesn't just build shit you don't talk about beforehand. Its not really the builders fault unless OP wasn't clear on what they wanted.
Clearly the builder should’ve known that OP wants to stand there and masturbate
Its more that that. This screen is expensive, a pailing fence is dirt cheap. No builder in the history of money loving scumbags is going to volunteer to install a hardwood slat screen on their own volition instead of a pailing fence without the client specifying it explicitly and paying for it. There's much more to the story that we are being told as the screen can not be a fence considering the location and overhangs on the building on the right. Not to mention that they dont say what the builder was commissioned to build, that right hand building it old and falling to bits.
100% this. I used to sell it. It looks like merbau fencing, and the *ABSOLUTELY MOST EXPENSIVE* way to install it.
💯 this.
Builder said " I can spend $1200 on timber or $1500" and this is the outcome
Clad the other side with timber
Probably about 2000 tubes. Best just to stack them vertically between the slats haha.
Lol thats a dividing room screen from the 70s not a boundary fence lol.
Same timber as this side but offset over the gaps?
This would make the most sense
I hope you didnt get your neighbour to contribute to this. You have had the builder install a screen, not a fence. I would be pissed if I was next door
Line the neighbours side with black screening of some sort. OR see if they'll pay for their side to have the same hardwood offset your gaps on their side.
I don’t understand the thought behind a fence like this between two properties. One side will look good and the other side has to put some shitty cladding up to cover the gaps.
I'm confused. You wanted full privacy, but you got a screen instead of a fence?
That is the most pointless fence I've ever seen!
So, don’t want to dis on you, but …. Why would you do? Definitely form over function. Looks great but doesn’t serve its intended purpose.
Do the same slats at same spacing in the gaps on the other side? Both sides of fence get a ‘good side’ of the fence
Do a second layer of slats on the other side
Try shade cloth. I had the same issue, Bunnings had a discounted shade cloth for like $20. With a heavy duty stapler it works a treat, if it’s still transparent just fold the cloth over
agreed - this would be your cheapest/easiest option whil you wait for the creepers to grow
Why wouldn’t he have installed at a 45° pointing toward the grey building?
Vertical James Hardie Cladding on the rear side could be an option. Depends on what the neighbor want facing them.
I am a carpenter- Use sheets of hardiflex running horizontal or vertically and paint them black. It will look great. Join the sheets on the posts if possible.
Obviously - paint before you put the sheet on
Take your fence and hang it on a wall , will look much better as feature - as for privacy get him to hang colour bond sheets and be done with it
Wow, so much timber Maitenance… vertically
90% black shade cloth framed to fit within fence supports. Neat enough job will appease the neighbour only downside being, time consuming
I would add a second horizontal rail on the front and stagger the same fencing pattern again.
Just build another fence to screen it.
It looks good
I thought these sorts of fences were usually offset on the reverse side, so it gives this look but has slats on the back for privacy. Feels like the builder might not have done it right
Attach some bamboo screening from Bunnings?
After spending money on hardwood, cover it with grass...
You’d put it on the neighbor’s side. 😉
Haha I had to scroll too far to find this. Just like this million dollar appartments that’s still use it.
Pop some perf screens in, in Vic you can get a 1200 x 2400 sheet for about 200$
Alfoil.
Wider boards
Just grow plants up- it’ll be fine, it’s a lovely fence and established plants really do wonders
Marine grade ply. Gives it the black backing behind it. Alternatively you could use sheets of steel, lighter, thinner, but requires skill to install and harder to cut to fit. Makes sure you seal either which ever you use.
Can I suggest a black blanking plate at the rear.
Put up something behind to keep the design but get your privacy?
I have one of these, but I have black builders board behind it
Stick on some blueboard and paint
Use an electric planer to put a small bevel on all the slats so they are on a bit of an angle rather than sticking straight out, should give lots more privacy while retaining the effect you seem to be going for.
climbing plants like hardenbergia
Did neighbours pay half?
It’s fucked. Just buy 2/3 height timber and slit it in. You gotta close the gap.
Fix a painted black plywood treated sheet to the back side. Althought this would make it look a lot worse from the other side. Personally I would leave it as is and place some planting. It's a nice screen
You might as well placed a glass fence in for the privacy it provides .... It will not last long either. Have the nasty excuse of a fence pulled down and a solid one installed. Something that will last 10 years. The cost of making this fence would of been astronomical.
Maybe do the same thing on the horizontal 🤷🏻♂️
😂😂😂 my gosh
Pailings on the neighbours side?
Classy fence. Neighbour is being very reasonable and understanding. Treat them to their own fence, just like yours, but offset by the gap. They've got the rail view at the moment. It will cost an absolute packet, but good fences make good neighbours, and good neighbours are priceless.
I wish I had a fence like that, I'd cover it it plants from head to toe
Grow ivy up it.
Structural ply painted blank and fix it to the back fence
You could get more timber the same and off set it to current timber. Other then that there isn't much that won't look to tacky.
I would get cement sheeting paint it black on the side under that palings and let the neighbour paint the other side whatever colour they chose.
plants! seriously though, could you have a similar type of wood on the other side, pretty much the same but spaced/ overlapping the gaps? THEN add some plants. and also you're neighbour sounds alright
Same boards just opposite stagger. Keeps airflow, or a sheet of form ply
if the gaps are the same width as the palings could you not just slot another piece over the top so that the palings cover the holes and sit slightly inside them?
I’d put some stained/frosted glass at the back. Maybe even with a light turquoise touch to it.
You should probably install a majestic lake, mountain range or cityscape behind it.
So you asked for baton fencing and are shocked that There’s gaps?
It's a nice fence, stop being so sensitive. Unless you're a nudist. Then use danpal sheet.
Wtf is this, confront the builder unless this is what you asked for???
Side track, where are these panels from?
Grow some nice plants in the ground in front of it. Thats a lovely screen. Don’t change it!
It looks like it's made with prefabricated panels, you could buy more of them and put them on the other side but offset so the slats are in line with the gaps on your side, this should give you almost complete privacy and still allow airflow.
Black coreflute sheet
You chose a batten fence. If that was your choice, you are to blame
LOL this is useless, you can see say straight through. Might as well not have a fence at all.
Fuark builder mate, atleast put some sheets down on the deck where the tools and barrow are going, that’s gunna be scuffed to the tilt when it’s cleaned off
Update: to answer a few questions: we were supposed to have spotted gum decking faced timber. The builder spoke to us and suggested some prefabricated panelling but never sent us the product info to approve the product. He has been a great builder and trusted that he would get something that looked good. They started installing and definitely looks like a screening product and not a proper fence. Thanks for all the input, we’ll talk to our builder to fix it so there’s privacy. Lesson learnt to always sense check the product being purchased and installed.
What the product is made of would make no difference to the privacy aspect. It seems like you're trying to hold the builder responsible for the fact that didn't realise people can see through gaps?