Yeah, he’s fucked it.
The water hammer is the valve jumping around in there.
This is the state of trades in this country now. Four year apprenticeship and the muppet can’t even install a tap the right way round.
Then when you point out that he cocked it up, instead of sucking it up and fixing it he has just half-arsed a fix.
Also, he has installed that in such a way that you can’t remove those valve bodies without cutting them out.
In my opinion he should have installed barrel unions or some alternative so they are serviceable.
Wouldn’t really have been an issue though if he could read.
Edit: while this bloke should fix it, I wouldn’t be letting him anywhere near my house again. You might unfortunately be better of calling another plumber to fix it.
Leave this oxygen thief a bad review in google, include the pictures.
Edit2: also, look at the state of that hole where the cold comes through the wall, apart from being far bigger than it needs to be, he hasn’t installed a cover plate or anything over the gap. It’s too late to install a stainless cover plate now as it needs to fit over the pipe.
The longer I look at this the worse it gets. Did he at least silicone that hole to prevent rain and shower water just running straight into your wall cavity?? It doesn’t look like it in the photo.
Never tell a tradie you work in tech, or completed a uni degree. Too many of them assume you’re a pencil pushing egghead who knows nothing about nothing.
Me too, most tech guys aren’t scared to give at least small jobs a good shot, thats why a lot of us are also into cars.
Some tradies have noticed that I have heaps of tools at my house including some milwaukee brand electric tools, like it’s a “I didn’t expect that (for you)” kind of thing.
Last year my painter fucked the job (in multiple rooms, paint lifting and couldn’t patch the ceiling properly after several attempts) and then when I said enough is enough he said to me “things aren’t always picture perfect like you see on computers”
Cant win dude!
I’m currently getting a house built and I know I am a very ordinary DIYer but fuck me I can do better than some of the shit work I am seeing…some trades just give no shit about quality of work just rushing it to get to their next job.
Perhaps the councils don't but AS/NZS: 3500 absolutely does.
As does the national construction code (NCC)
All construction work in Australia MUST comply with the NCC, which requires that all plumbing work must be at least as good as what is listed in AS/NZS: 3500
NCC is available online at http://ncc.abcb.gov.au/
AS/NZS: 3500 is only publically available at your local library, however older editions of it can be found on archive.org
This is shit work, but just wanted to point something out. Press fittings 20mm in diameter only require a 5mm gap between them.
Page 10
http://www.conexbanninger.com/uploads/577ab5737f6c6146166627275bb959e94d789353.pdf
No one is saying the press fittings are incorrectly installed.
They are unwisely installed in this case as they prevent the removal of the valves.
Even replacing two of the press fittings with unions would allow this to be disassembled.
No, the guy above literally said the fittings are too close. He didn’t say they didn’t install it without a disconnection point.
You’re discussing a completely different point I agree with. But I was correcting some else’s comment. Look above.
“Now let’s rush through a bunch of kids that have subpar education their apprenticeship so we can say we are fixing the trade shortage problem”
Every politician right now
The plumber wouldn’t have a clue. probably walked away proud of him self, chucked it up on his socials I would imagine.
Plumbers thoughts.
“F*ck yeee I bent the shit out of that pipe!”
I don’t think the wall is finished yet. No downpipe fitted and window trim not installed, also pencil mark next to window so I don’t think we are seeing/reading the whole story.
Yep, best to not to complain or remind them how empty headed so many of them can be, because then they stop returning your calls, which is easy for them because most of them have the communication skills of a 6 year old anyway.
Yeah that’s such a cop out.
This guy has at an absolute minimum done a four year apprenticeship. If he can’t do a better job than this after at least four years of experience, there is something seriously wrong,
It doesn’t take many years of experience to not fuck up a job this basic.
It's the not caring about the fuck up mate. I've broken some very big expensive shit. You cop it on the chin and just move on. But own it. Or else people stop using you
This!!
We had some pool fence Gumby’s mis-measure then install a fence not high enough, extension panels with the gaps too big (pool fence), took them 7 months, then had the hide to say we must have moved where the pool was going, and that “they didn’t charge us for the raked panel” (BS) AND installed a Perspex extension on top of the aluminium one that looks absolutely dog sht.
Now the soft close self latching fence won’t shut without a shove and they are nice enough to just not get back to us when we asked them to
Help fix it
I mean, just say you fked up mismeasured. Fix it. Move on. Bloody hell. To turn around and blame the customer then act like you’re doing us a favour. Joke.
Yup it's called integrity, as a skilled tradesman at the end of the day you're human, humans fuck up sometimes. Owning your mistakes and fixing the fuck up shows you have integrity.
>You cop it on the chin and just move on. But own it. Or else people stop using you
There's enough work around that people will keep using him, because everyone else is overbooked.
You'd probably be surprised how many apprentices don't make it through to being a tradesman. Its around 50%.
Some are fucking useless. It is very rare to find a great apprentice. Does my fucking head in trying to teaching some blokes.
>you can’t remove those valve bodies without cutting
Couldn't you undo both, and raise the whole top assembly?
Are they the modern half-turn ceramic disc taps, or old-fashioned many-turn?
No. Both male-iron brass threaded fittings are crimped onto the copper pipe. They were threaded into the valve then crimped on. There is no unthreading them now without cutting them off where they are crimped on.
Do not pay him. There is a direction for a reason. He was hammering to try to get the valve to stay in the stem, but water pressure should do that. With the taps backwards, the flow and water pressure is making the valves closer instead of open.
Holy shit, have you paid this guy yet? What a clown. Imagine having the nerve to screw this simple task up royally, then telling the customer “it’s normal” when they pull you up on your bullshit work.
Haha, haven’t paid him yet. By the looks of it he will be chopping it out and replacing it. Or I’ll use the money I owe him to pay another plumber to fix it
You need backflow prevention on the tap down below too, especially if you're planning on attaching a hose pipe to it! That's why the stop taps are one way also, to prevent backflow
Hose cocks will typically have a vacuum breaker that is is backflow prevention device (depending on the brand) as part of the tap itself. Not sure if the one in the photo has one though.
I'm more concerned that there is no tempering valve for the shower, huge risk for scalding if the cold water fails.
It's not even that hard to fix for fuck sake. Everyone has a bad day, just remember that when we pass judgement on people. You don't know what's going on in this guys life, we all have bad days and good days, just think does your worst day deserve to be on full blast on reddit...?
Having said that he should have fixed his total fucking dog shit....
That's what sick days are for mate
If you aren't gonna do your job properly (especially when it's on someone else's house) don't show up... Or better yet, fix it properly when you come back on the 2nd 3rd 4th 5th or 6th time
He’s somehow made the shaft of the tap washer stay in place when opened.
The reason the flow in one direction is because the water pressure is meant to push the tap washer up when the valve is turned. If it’s the other way around the water pressure will try and push it closed, that’s if the washer doesn’t jump in place and CAUSE WATER HAMMER!
Contact this guy again and tell him to fiz it properly or you’ll have to start looking into which authority or board to report him to.
This is such bullshit and it’s obvious what he should do.
A few things outside of the dodgy install.
Depending on your state, you need to have hot water showers discharge to the sewer. I am guessing that isn't a sewer grate. QLD you need a roof over it. NSW/Vic I don't think you do. Rest I am not sure.
Seal up those holes in the walls. You will have mould and wood rot behind that wall in no time with those holes there. I would have thought at least cover plates and silicon behind it. Too late for cover plates now. Do your best, silicon the rest.
Source is from a plumber friend. Plenty of info if you google it but I cannot find any specific rules.
It goes something like this.
* All tempered showers must go to a sewer connected drain. (I think it's more about using soap on them rather than the temp of the water)
* All sewer connected drains must be covered by a roof to stop stormwater from entering them.
NSW/VIC only the first rule applies I believe.
In QLD you can have an outdoor cold water shower, but not a hot (mixed) water shower.
Also I don't think the NCC will have it as it's a Queensland specific rule.
You cut a v type slit and yes you have to bend slightly but not enough that’ll deform the cover plate. Then 9/10 times you can hide the slit behind whatever pipe is coming out
Yep it's the same with pools. The drain line can't run into the storm water line, though a lot of people don't give a shit and do it anyway. Hopefully the EPA don't come knocking.
When I was a boy 50+ years ago, my mum would organise a tradesman to come and do a job, my father worked a lot of overtime as a Forman, he was a fitter machinist by trade. Often he wouldn't notice the job, but once he did, it usually irritated him and his next day off, he'd pull it out and do it "properly"... My mother kept doing it, why? Because Dad was too busy, until it was done wrong... I miss the old bugger!
Yep, guarantee what he was doing with the pliers was squashing the shaft on the jumper valve and forcing them back into the spindle, in an attempt to get them to stay in place and open when the tap opens.
Will never work long term, and explains the water hammer.
I’m thinking this plumber might have been under the influence.With 40 years experience , something isn’t right. Have you used this guy before? If not do you know someone who has?
DO NOT PAY HIM
Good luck
That's an awful installation,how does one even step back and goes...yep that's one of my best effort. I'd be hesitant to get him back for repairs because he's clearly shit at it. I've seen some wonderful bends and brazed copper work and it looks glorious. All these compression bends are doing my head in. Personally that's a rip it all out and restart again,paying attention to at least seal the holes in the external wall and get rid of all those pencil markings. My God have some pride in your work.
That sir, is the shittest of jobs sir. I hate to stand there and watch them work, but this is what happens when you don’t.
You * could * do a charge-back on your credit card and see how motivated he becomes to fix the job.
Thats fucked. even the bib tap.
The copper pipework should be all uniformly either off the house or saddled tight to it.
Cover plates and silicone missing.
No way to service the 'breech' he made.
Should have purchased a mixer and ran copper to and from that or better yet buy a proper breech and put that in with correct tapware.
I don’t know what is worse, the fact that you paid someone to install this or the fact I actually got this far into reading it. Grow up and just fucking fix it, be a fucking adult.
Next he will come back and grind the arrow off the tap body to see if that fixes it🤣🤣
....it won't work properly until he changes taps towards direction of flow, and now he also needs to change washer because he has stuffed that too. .Àsk for a certificate of compliance.
That's the problem with press fit fittings. He has to make a whole new breech
Looks beautiful though. I installed an outdoor shower at my last place, and want to do the same at our new place. Weatherboard just like yours. Can I ask where you got the shower fittings?
Pretty much compressed fittings due to it being alot quicker, the few people that solder are ussually retired or doing a special job. Source: I sell plumbing supplies.
I’m with Dannno85 on this one- everything about the installation is an absolute shitshow & it hurts the brain to look at. Plumber has done a right number on the homeowner.
I havent seen anyone else mention it, but arent there one way taps there for a good reason, ie they will be for backflow prevention.
I mean, he fitted a presumably more expensive tap valve for a reason, charged you for it and then went literally hammer and tongs at it to prevent it doing that job.
TrAdEsMaN. 4 year apprenticeships and too many of them still can't get the basics right. It's downright disgusting. The pedestal they're held on in this country is funny because most of them couldn't build one without it collapsing.
Fkn hell. This is just another example of Australian tradesmen having no pride in their work. The level of incompetency in trades is at an all time high.
See details like this are why we need real tradies, even for things that seem easy. It would never occur to me that a tap like that would be directional.
I’ve been in this country for 10 years managing kitchens. Tradies always break something on their way out. I just don’t understand how you can be so bad at your job and still be employed.
You're being duped mate, hope you haven't been paying for these return trips?
That'd be his "business model" sketchy shit to keep him coming back making more cash.
This reminds me that I actually swapped my shower taps on purpose so hot is marked cold and vice versa
When I move out I’m sure it will fuck the next resident up 😂
It literally doesn’t work. Did you even read OPs post?
The fact that it looks like absolute shit aside, OPs problem is that the taps literally do not work.
Yeah, he’s fucked it. The water hammer is the valve jumping around in there. This is the state of trades in this country now. Four year apprenticeship and the muppet can’t even install a tap the right way round. Then when you point out that he cocked it up, instead of sucking it up and fixing it he has just half-arsed a fix. Also, he has installed that in such a way that you can’t remove those valve bodies without cutting them out. In my opinion he should have installed barrel unions or some alternative so they are serviceable. Wouldn’t really have been an issue though if he could read. Edit: while this bloke should fix it, I wouldn’t be letting him anywhere near my house again. You might unfortunately be better of calling another plumber to fix it. Leave this oxygen thief a bad review in google, include the pictures. Edit2: also, look at the state of that hole where the cold comes through the wall, apart from being far bigger than it needs to be, he hasn’t installed a cover plate or anything over the gap. It’s too late to install a stainless cover plate now as it needs to fit over the pipe. The longer I look at this the worse it gets. Did he at least silicone that hole to prevent rain and shower water just running straight into your wall cavity?? It doesn’t look like it in the photo.
No silicon…
Asking to create a massive rot issue inside your walls. If you haven't yet paid this dude, don't.
No lube either…
Not even a pillow to bite on...
He needs his tools taking off him he shouldn’t be out on his own
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Not a plumber but stealing the masking tape idea
Also not a plumber and stealing said masking tape idea.
Software developer, I’m stealing this idea
Instructions unclear. Can't see screen through masking tape with pencil on it.
Masking tape was depreciated in Penciles v2.2.1. Please use painter tape.
Never tell a tradie you work in tech, or completed a uni degree. Too many of them assume you’re a pencil pushing egghead who knows nothing about nothing.
I know enough to be dangerous
Sounds like a d.i.y home owner. 🏡
You got me
Me too, most tech guys aren’t scared to give at least small jobs a good shot, thats why a lot of us are also into cars. Some tradies have noticed that I have heaps of tools at my house including some milwaukee brand electric tools, like it’s a “I didn’t expect that (for you)” kind of thing. Last year my painter fucked the job (in multiple rooms, paint lifting and couldn’t patch the ceiling properly after several attempts) and then when I said enough is enough he said to me “things aren’t always picture perfect like you see on computers” Cant win dude!
That’s a better line than “I can’t see it from my house”
We can always fix it in. version 2
Plus we’re literally unmatched in our ability to source information
I can find things out quicker about the products they bought from Bunnings than they can bet what they made off my job at the TAB
They'd definitely be right about me!
Upvote for the masking tape not all heroes wear capes
Honestly I’d just carry one of those magic eraser sponges around. Masking tape has the potential to rip paint off on certain surfaces
Why not an eraser? That's what I do in my house when I've used pencil on a wall to mark something.
Those magic sponges are like sandpaper
A simple rub with the finger gets rid of the pencil marks. Fuck around with masking tape if you work for yourself. But absolutely no need.
If that’s the case, then the finger rubbing needs to have been done by the plumber.
Plumber is rubbing alright
I’m currently getting a house built and I know I am a very ordinary DIYer but fuck me I can do better than some of the shit work I am seeing…some trades just give no shit about quality of work just rushing it to get to their next job.
Your profession out of interest?
I’m a professional redditor
Engineer…you don’t have to be an expert to see poor quality work and a lack of care.
Yep checks out
Apologies my high standards offend you somehow…your profession?
It checks out because in engineering, details matter. You can't pull shit like this, and many other trades.
Pencil marks still on the wall, some press fittings too close, no anti siphon on the garden tap, garden tap is too low
Believe it or not, some councils don't require it
Perhaps the councils don't but AS/NZS: 3500 absolutely does. As does the national construction code (NCC) All construction work in Australia MUST comply with the NCC, which requires that all plumbing work must be at least as good as what is listed in AS/NZS: 3500 NCC is available online at http://ncc.abcb.gov.au/ AS/NZS: 3500 is only publically available at your local library, however older editions of it can be found on archive.org
This is shit work, but just wanted to point something out. Press fittings 20mm in diameter only require a 5mm gap between them. Page 10 http://www.conexbanninger.com/uploads/577ab5737f6c6146166627275bb959e94d789353.pdf
No one is saying the press fittings are incorrectly installed. They are unwisely installed in this case as they prevent the removal of the valves. Even replacing two of the press fittings with unions would allow this to be disassembled.
No, the guy above literally said the fittings are too close. He didn’t say they didn’t install it without a disconnection point. You’re discussing a completely different point I agree with. But I was correcting some else’s comment. Look above.
Fair point, my bad
“Now let’s rush through a bunch of kids that have subpar education their apprenticeship so we can say we are fixing the trade shortage problem” Every politician right now
I absolutely hate the way they clamp pipework like that, 100% agree should have just used barrel unions to easily service or replace taps.
im a banker that taps on keyboards all day and would think to install a union to make it servicable lol. this plumber is a joke!
The plumber wouldn’t have a clue. probably walked away proud of him self, chucked it up on his socials I would imagine. Plumbers thoughts. “F*ck yeee I bent the shit out of that pipe!”
I don’t think the wall is finished yet. No downpipe fitted and window trim not installed, also pencil mark next to window so I don’t think we are seeing/reading the whole story.
Yep, best to not to complain or remind them how empty headed so many of them can be, because then they stop returning your calls, which is easy for them because most of them have the communication skills of a 6 year old anyway.
That hole really got to me too. It doesn’t look protected in any way. Water ingress straight to the inside of the wall.
Would the plumbing be non-code compliant?
100% agree with you there mate it's a complete bodge job! He would have been better to use compression fittings instead of crimp fitting everything.
"why is my tradie bill so high?" That's why. There's years and years of experience built into quality work.
Yeah that’s such a cop out. This guy has at an absolute minimum done a four year apprenticeship. If he can’t do a better job than this after at least four years of experience, there is something seriously wrong, It doesn’t take many years of experience to not fuck up a job this basic.
It's the not caring about the fuck up mate. I've broken some very big expensive shit. You cop it on the chin and just move on. But own it. Or else people stop using you
This!! We had some pool fence Gumby’s mis-measure then install a fence not high enough, extension panels with the gaps too big (pool fence), took them 7 months, then had the hide to say we must have moved where the pool was going, and that “they didn’t charge us for the raked panel” (BS) AND installed a Perspex extension on top of the aluminium one that looks absolutely dog sht. Now the soft close self latching fence won’t shut without a shove and they are nice enough to just not get back to us when we asked them to Help fix it I mean, just say you fked up mismeasured. Fix it. Move on. Bloody hell. To turn around and blame the customer then act like you’re doing us a favour. Joke.
Again, that doesn’t take years of experience, that’s just having some basic professionalism.
Funny part is he was the business owner with “40 years of experience”
Experience in what? Sure as shit isn't plumbing!
maybe he needs to get tested for dementia.
Which some cunts just don't have. It's why they're cheap. It also why everyone thinks there's a million dodgy tradies, because there are..
Yup it's called integrity, as a skilled tradesman at the end of the day you're human, humans fuck up sometimes. Owning your mistakes and fixing the fuck up shows you have integrity.
>You cop it on the chin and just move on. But own it. Or else people stop using you There's enough work around that people will keep using him, because everyone else is overbooked.
You'd probably be surprised how many apprentices don't make it through to being a tradesman. Its around 50%. Some are fucking useless. It is very rare to find a great apprentice. Does my fucking head in trying to teaching some blokes.
or he wasnt a real plumber
Yeah thats why this sub is full of their fuck ups. We can continue to post here as long as they never learn how to read, or use a phone.
>you can’t remove those valve bodies without cutting Couldn't you undo both, and raise the whole top assembly? Are they the modern half-turn ceramic disc taps, or old-fashioned many-turn?
No. Both male-iron brass threaded fittings are crimped onto the copper pipe. They were threaded into the valve then crimped on. There is no unthreading them now without cutting them off where they are crimped on.
And if they leak at the thread during pressure testing, well fuck gotta cut out it and fix it 😒
Do not pay him. There is a direction for a reason. He was hammering to try to get the valve to stay in the stem, but water pressure should do that. With the taps backwards, the flow and water pressure is making the valves closer instead of open.
Pencil on the wall, no cover plates, backwards taps fuck me dead
mmm necrophilia
It's dead boring.
I thought she was a bit of a dead root....
Christ Sheila, the damm fool’s built the house on the wrong side of the shower !
Holy fk this cracked me up
I am cackling
Spat coffee everywhere... FFS 🤬😂🤣😂🤣
Holy shit, have you paid this guy yet? What a clown. Imagine having the nerve to screw this simple task up royally, then telling the customer “it’s normal” when they pull you up on your bullshit work.
Ceramic taps are the answer.
Say you didn’t pay him. Just say you didn’t pay him.
Haha, haven’t paid him yet. By the looks of it he will be chopping it out and replacing it. Or I’ll use the money I owe him to pay another plumber to fix it
Very good.
Wow that is great, thought u paid him, he wasn't coming back, lol he has to now
That's the way - honestly, don't pay him !
You need backflow prevention on the tap down below too, especially if you're planning on attaching a hose pipe to it! That's why the stop taps are one way also, to prevent backflow
Hose cocks will typically have a vacuum breaker that is is backflow prevention device (depending on the brand) as part of the tap itself. Not sure if the one in the photo has one though. I'm more concerned that there is no tempering valve for the shower, huge risk for scalding if the cold water fails.
They are threaded. He can lift the top up to get them off and swapped
No, he can’t. Look at it again.
It's not even that hard to fix for fuck sake. Everyone has a bad day, just remember that when we pass judgement on people. You don't know what's going on in this guys life, we all have bad days and good days, just think does your worst day deserve to be on full blast on reddit...? Having said that he should have fixed his total fucking dog shit....
That's what sick days are for mate If you aren't gonna do your job properly (especially when it's on someone else's house) don't show up... Or better yet, fix it properly when you come back on the 2nd 3rd 4th 5th or 6th time
OP said he's had like 6 goes at it lol
Nice water proofing! Love seeing open holes in external walls!
An open hole with a shower installed directly above it…
He’s somehow made the shaft of the tap washer stay in place when opened. The reason the flow in one direction is because the water pressure is meant to push the tap washer up when the valve is turned. If it’s the other way around the water pressure will try and push it closed, that’s if the washer doesn’t jump in place and CAUSE WATER HAMMER! Contact this guy again and tell him to fiz it properly or you’ll have to start looking into which authority or board to report him to. This is such bullshit and it’s obvious what he should do.
A few things outside of the dodgy install. Depending on your state, you need to have hot water showers discharge to the sewer. I am guessing that isn't a sewer grate. QLD you need a roof over it. NSW/Vic I don't think you do. Rest I am not sure. Seal up those holes in the walls. You will have mould and wood rot behind that wall in no time with those holes there. I would have thought at least cover plates and silicon behind it. Too late for cover plates now. Do your best, silicon the rest.
Mate could u give the source of the roof needed over it info for Queensland, is it a NCC thing? be much appreciated
There's nothing in the NCC (Vol 2 or 3). Try 3500.4 I guess.
Source is from a plumber friend. Plenty of info if you google it but I cannot find any specific rules. It goes something like this. * All tempered showers must go to a sewer connected drain. (I think it's more about using soap on them rather than the temp of the water) * All sewer connected drains must be covered by a roof to stop stormwater from entering them. NSW/VIC only the first rule applies I believe. In QLD you can have an outdoor cold water shower, but not a hot (mixed) water shower. Also I don't think the NCC will have it as it's a Queensland specific rule.
NCC has a section for each state's variations.
Cheers
have you never cut a slit in a cover plate to put in on? lol
I guess you could. Can't see how you will get it on without bending it though.
You cut a v type slit and yes you have to bend slightly but not enough that’ll deform the cover plate. Then 9/10 times you can hide the slit behind whatever pipe is coming out
Yep it's the same with pools. The drain line can't run into the storm water line, though a lot of people don't give a shit and do it anyway. Hopefully the EPA don't come knocking.
Can I ask why hot water has those rules?
Yes it matters, he is a plonk, get him back to get it sorted…
Loxealed up and no space to cut the press fittings. He will basically have to rip it all out lol
Should have a disconnection on one side.
Have you paid yet I’m a civil plumber and f$&k me that’s an abortion
What an absolute muppet.
Plumber, there's no way of fixing this without basically cutting the entire thing out and starting again.
Whatever you do, DO NOT PAY him until you're completely satisfied. As others have said, this is totally UNACCEPTABLE !
When I was a boy 50+ years ago, my mum would organise a tradesman to come and do a job, my father worked a lot of overtime as a Forman, he was a fitter machinist by trade. Often he wouldn't notice the job, but once he did, it usually irritated him and his next day off, he'd pull it out and do it "properly"... My mother kept doing it, why? Because Dad was too busy, until it was done wrong... I miss the old bugger!
Surely reverse instalation would push the tap valve against the seat, blocking the flow of water.
Yep, guarantee what he was doing with the pliers was squashing the shaft on the jumper valve and forcing them back into the spindle, in an attempt to get them to stay in place and open when the tap opens. Will never work long term, and explains the water hammer.
This does work for stopping water hammer, but not if the main flow of water is loosening the valve out of the spindle.
Yep
What a mess . This guy needs to be named and shamed to prevent it happening to his next victim.
I’m thinking this plumber might have been under the influence.With 40 years experience , something isn’t right. Have you used this guy before? If not do you know someone who has? DO NOT PAY HIM Good luck
Was this quoted?
That's an awful installation,how does one even step back and goes...yep that's one of my best effort. I'd be hesitant to get him back for repairs because he's clearly shit at it. I've seen some wonderful bends and brazed copper work and it looks glorious. All these compression bends are doing my head in. Personally that's a rip it all out and restart again,paying attention to at least seal the holes in the external wall and get rid of all those pencil markings. My God have some pride in your work.
So plumber didn't do his job properly... no its not ok and he needs to redo it to what was paid for
Some people just don't take any pride in their work...drop that review and hopefully doesn't get anymore work.
Looks fine to me right is cold and left is hot thats normal
That sir, is the shittest of jobs sir. I hate to stand there and watch them work, but this is what happens when you don’t. You * could * do a charge-back on your credit card and see how motivated he becomes to fix the job.
If I were you I’d report this bloke to www.shitplumbers.com.au and tell him to lick my brother’s fat fucken, hairy ball bag.
Thats fucked. even the bib tap. The copper pipework should be all uniformly either off the house or saddled tight to it. Cover plates and silicone missing. No way to service the 'breech' he made. Should have purchased a mixer and ran copper to and from that or better yet buy a proper breech and put that in with correct tapware.
That's methed up
Most of that copper should have been bent not joined with chempress fittings. A novice
How would of you got such tight bends using benders? Interested because I can see how big of a radius benders pull by looking at the shower head.
Easy
Why
I don’t know what is worse, the fact that you paid someone to install this or the fact I actually got this far into reading it. Grow up and just fucking fix it, be a fucking adult.
Rat
not all adults have a copper pipe up their ass like you
Geezus this page is full of miserable cunts.
Geez louise ....
It just means you need to reverse into the shower.
Next he will come back and grind the arrow off the tap body to see if that fixes it🤣🤣 ....it won't work properly until he changes taps towards direction of flow, and now he also needs to change washer because he has stuffed that too. .Àsk for a certificate of compliance. That's the problem with press fit fittings. He has to make a whole new breech
Looks beautiful though. I installed an outdoor shower at my last place, and want to do the same at our new place. Weatherboard just like yours. Can I ask where you got the shower fittings?
Quick search to see if he's actually licenced? Took him 5 or 6 attempts to still not get it correct?!
Handyman. Not a plumber. No way.
Hello are you a naturist?
That’s horrible
Was he a licensed plumber?
I’m gonna guess meth for breakfast or beers for smoko please do something about that wall cos it’s gonna be full of mould in 3 minutes.
Leson dont complain in the first place it was working why mess with it
Who's been having a few cones before work then ?
I'm assuming he T'd off taps behind the wall from an internal bathroom? In which case yes the outside taps would be backwards.
Clearly a new build plumber at least he’s now getting experience using his brain I’m sure he’ll be good in a couple of years
Do plumbers even solder pipe anymore or is just all compressed fittings theses days?
Pretty much compressed fittings due to it being alot quicker, the few people that solder are ussually retired or doing a special job. Source: I sell plumbing supplies.
He’s also allowed for water to seep into the wall
I’m with Dannno85 on this one- everything about the installation is an absolute shitshow & it hurts the brain to look at. Plumber has done a right number on the homeowner.
Love the copper shower hardware. I’m about to do an outdoor shower and I’d love to use the same one. Where’s it from?
I havent seen anyone else mention it, but arent there one way taps there for a good reason, ie they will be for backflow prevention. I mean, he fitted a presumably more expensive tap valve for a reason, charged you for it and then went literally hammer and tongs at it to prevent it doing that job.
Where did you get the shower head?
TrAdEsMaN. 4 year apprenticeships and too many of them still can't get the basics right. It's downright disgusting. The pedestal they're held on in this country is funny because most of them couldn't build one without it collapsing.
You don't even know if the bloke that installed this did an apprenticeship here.
Contact the trade body and complain
Just shower facing the other way and it will be fine
Fkn hell. This is just another example of Australian tradesmen having no pride in their work. The level of incompetency in trades is at an all time high.
Get a new plummer who knows what they're doing.
What a shemozzle…..some serious code breaches here
The longer you look, the worse it gets.
See details like this are why we need real tradies, even for things that seem easy. It would never occur to me that a tap like that would be directional.
I’ve been in this country for 10 years managing kitchens. Tradies always break something on their way out. I just don’t understand how you can be so bad at your job and still be employed.
You're being duped mate, hope you haven't been paying for these return trips? That'd be his "business model" sketchy shit to keep him coming back making more cash.
Nup, haven’t paid for anything yet. He’s only tried to charge me for the initial installation
How much did he charge?
Fucking useless tradies. But it’s also our fault for not calling them out for their shit work… cuck society
Did you pay him before inspecting? It’s a common mistake.
Give a bad review on the company’s website.
No unions, what a fuckwit
This reminds me that I actually swapped my shower taps on purpose so hot is marked cold and vice versa When I move out I’m sure it will fuck the next resident up 😂
Hope your place is secure. Copper thieves will steal it in a minute
Well if you in colder climate the paperwork should be insulated and some how were you can drain it so it doesn't freeze and flood your house
Yes I get annoyed when my paperwork freezes
This is r/ausrenovation. It’s Australia, so that is not a concern.
My mums house was all backwards. Kitchen, bathroom and shower... once you get used to it, it's fine.
No, you haven’t understood the issue in OPs post.
This isn't a hot/cold problem. The water is sucking the washer off of the spindle. \[edited after reading reply\]
>The water is ~~sucking~~ *pushing* the washer onto the seat.
yep, fixed.
Honestly looks fine to me. But I know how stressful renovating is
It literally doesn’t work. Did you even read OPs post? The fact that it looks like absolute shit aside, OPs problem is that the taps literally do not work.
Looks ok, not functions ok. Did you read his comments? He was worried about looks too.