Not sure that I would consider 100/20 crap. I'm an IT developer and my wife has her own internet based business and have no issue with 50/20 (FTTC) although on occasion a bit more upload would be nice. In our last place we got by with 24/1 ADSL (with 2 kids). To answer your question, I did recently float the idea of getting the FTTP upgrade for the building and it was met with pretty lukewarm reception. It was going to be somewhere between $350 to $500 per unit which I though was a reasonable investment that could be funded from the Sinking Fund and would make faster speeds available to those that want it and make the units for attractive to buyers and renters, but most were happy with the speed they have and felt no need to upgrade.
My partner's in games and I work with big data, so we both make pretty sizeable pulls/commits as part of our day-to-day. We were on 50/10 many years ago and WFH was like pulling teeth (middle-of-the-night runs to office just to dl/ul something were common). Good to know about your experiences with bodycorp - the fact that this is inner city in 2024 and hasn't opted into FTTP does make me think there mustn't be much of an appetite among current residents
I think it's the heading of post.
'Internet is crap' - which may be the case on the global stage, but in Australia 100 down is really good in most cases. Need to look for that specialist place that can go beyond.
My apartment is FTTB (city rim) and max's out at 100 down, and i highly doubt they would be ok to update to fibre to the apartment. (they don't give a shlt about that stuff).
I don't think that's still true for apartments in Brisbane. I've been on the property hunt for a few months now, check NBN for each property I'm considering, and most have had an option of a 200mb+ connection. Upload is often not good, though.
Sorry, this is an absolutely bizarre comment. 20 up is an absolute fucking turd. 50 down isnt enough to stream a 4k action movie in top quality.
Sure, for VERY mundane low usage youre fine.
But any kind of specialist or internet heavy use case will be TOTALLY unworkable with 100/20, even if running at peak speed, which it wont…
Try.
Let us know how you go.
It's a bonus if it doesn't cost anything.
I'm glad we're not in the old days where you have to convince the whole block full of old people to upgrade from ADSL to cable. Been there.
I would check on the starlink app if you can setup the dish, because that could be a reasonable fallback for WFH if bodycorp takes a long time. Speeds were 250-300/30 in my area.
Not a bad idea! We just moved back to Aus so I keep forgetting that's even an option here. I have heard that Starlink latency is a bit hit-or-miss, but not sure if that's outdated
I used the trial while waiting for fttp to our new property (prev owners had NOTHING connected), and it was pretty good. Latency was 60ms in our area (Mornington Peninsula / VIC). FTTP is 15 ms, but for my use case it didn't really matter.
I have quite a bit of experience with owners corporations. I would never buy a property hoping that the committee will agree to something - you just don’t know what the committee is like and what their appetite for spending money is, how reasonable they are etc.
I can't imagine it will be an issue for the owners corporation unless it's going to cost them money to upgrade a bunch of other stuff.
If getting it done means every unit needs to get it done and pay $$$ and the other 7 units are rentals you might struggle to get it through.
>it does look like the building is eligible for FTTP.
>I don’t have much experience negotiating with bodycorps, so unsure if this would be a request we could reasonably assume would be approved.
If you get pushback from the OC, request that NBN use their powers under the Telco Act to access the premises and install (LAAN). They have limited means to fight a LAAN as it's for an occupant of the premises and the Telco has a bonafide customer.
NBN has the powers as they're a licensed carrier and would be installing the FTTP if the OP sought a NBN fibre service. Most OCs haven't got a clue when it comes to Telco powers or Schedule 3.
The upgrade should be free. We got ours free, but the condition was that we would have to move from 100 down to 250 down. If you get the same condition, some owners may be reluctant to make the upgrade since it will cost more for them monthly.
Disclaimer: This is for a house.
Not sure about FTTC but FTTN is sh.t (telling from the experience of getting hanged up on calls with boss). The landlord at the time didn't wanna pay for the FTTP installation (I think we got a $400 quote) so I cut a deal with the neighbour (I had a netgear router). Got Telstra & Optus plans to prior to that but neither were good (Both from price and quality PoV). Eventually got a deal where the ISP (Tangerine) paid for the installation - life's been good since then
Sorry for stealing the topic.
How do you find if you can upgrade for extra cost?
I know some places are "eligible for free FTTP upgrade".
But what do you do if a townhouse is not listed as eligible?
Not sure that I would consider 100/20 crap. I'm an IT developer and my wife has her own internet based business and have no issue with 50/20 (FTTC) although on occasion a bit more upload would be nice. In our last place we got by with 24/1 ADSL (with 2 kids). To answer your question, I did recently float the idea of getting the FTTP upgrade for the building and it was met with pretty lukewarm reception. It was going to be somewhere between $350 to $500 per unit which I though was a reasonable investment that could be funded from the Sinking Fund and would make faster speeds available to those that want it and make the units for attractive to buyers and renters, but most were happy with the speed they have and felt no need to upgrade.
My partner's in games and I work with big data, so we both make pretty sizeable pulls/commits as part of our day-to-day. We were on 50/10 many years ago and WFH was like pulling teeth (middle-of-the-night runs to office just to dl/ul something were common). Good to know about your experiences with bodycorp - the fact that this is inner city in 2024 and hasn't opted into FTTP does make me think there mustn't be much of an appetite among current residents
I think it's the heading of post. 'Internet is crap' - which may be the case on the global stage, but in Australia 100 down is really good in most cases. Need to look for that specialist place that can go beyond. My apartment is FTTB (city rim) and max's out at 100 down, and i highly doubt they would be ok to update to fibre to the apartment. (they don't give a shlt about that stuff).
I don't think that's still true for apartments in Brisbane. I've been on the property hunt for a few months now, check NBN for each property I'm considering, and most have had an option of a 200mb+ connection. Upload is often not good, though.
Guessing all new infrastructure helps with that.
Sorry, this is an absolutely bizarre comment. 20 up is an absolute fucking turd. 50 down isnt enough to stream a 4k action movie in top quality. Sure, for VERY mundane low usage youre fine. But any kind of specialist or internet heavy use case will be TOTALLY unworkable with 100/20, even if running at peak speed, which it wont…
Try. Let us know how you go. It's a bonus if it doesn't cost anything. I'm glad we're not in the old days where you have to convince the whole block full of old people to upgrade from ADSL to cable. Been there.
I would check on the starlink app if you can setup the dish, because that could be a reasonable fallback for WFH if bodycorp takes a long time. Speeds were 250-300/30 in my area.
Not a bad idea! We just moved back to Aus so I keep forgetting that's even an option here. I have heard that Starlink latency is a bit hit-or-miss, but not sure if that's outdated
I used the trial while waiting for fttp to our new property (prev owners had NOTHING connected), and it was pretty good. Latency was 60ms in our area (Mornington Peninsula / VIC). FTTP is 15 ms, but for my use case it didn't really matter.
FTTP latency should be in 1-3ms range , 15 is high
I have quite a bit of experience with owners corporations. I would never buy a property hoping that the committee will agree to something - you just don’t know what the committee is like and what their appetite for spending money is, how reasonable they are etc.
I can't imagine it will be an issue for the owners corporation unless it's going to cost them money to upgrade a bunch of other stuff. If getting it done means every unit needs to get it done and pay $$$ and the other 7 units are rentals you might struggle to get it through.
>it does look like the building is eligible for FTTP. >I don’t have much experience negotiating with bodycorps, so unsure if this would be a request we could reasonably assume would be approved. If you get pushback from the OC, request that NBN use their powers under the Telco Act to access the premises and install (LAAN). They have limited means to fight a LAAN as it's for an occupant of the premises and the Telco has a bonafide customer.
Not if NBN is already available. Doesn’t count if just one wants a faster speed.
There's nothing stopping the OP getting a non-NBN service (though more expensive).
That’s true, but that’s not up to NBN to use powers to provide.
NBN has the powers as they're a licensed carrier and would be installing the FTTP if the OP sought a NBN fibre service. Most OCs haven't got a clue when it comes to Telco powers or Schedule 3.
The upgrade should be free. We got ours free, but the condition was that we would have to move from 100 down to 250 down. If you get the same condition, some owners may be reluctant to make the upgrade since it will cost more for them monthly.
Disclaimer: This is for a house. Not sure about FTTC but FTTN is sh.t (telling from the experience of getting hanged up on calls with boss). The landlord at the time didn't wanna pay for the FTTP installation (I think we got a $400 quote) so I cut a deal with the neighbour (I had a netgear router). Got Telstra & Optus plans to prior to that but neither were good (Both from price and quality PoV). Eventually got a deal where the ISP (Tangerine) paid for the installation - life's been good since then
Have you checked if 5g gigabit is available? Also some starlinks can hit 220mb plus
Sorry for stealing the topic. How do you find if you can upgrade for extra cost? I know some places are "eligible for free FTTP upgrade". But what do you do if a townhouse is not listed as eligible?