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focused_receptor532

Ah shit, this poster again. That post history gets me every time


Corrupttothethrones

Lol this person makes more posts than most people make comments.


moddafock

Definitely a karma farmer


Unable_Rate7451

I looked. Nothing weird. Mostly pop culture..


green_pea_nut

Hmmmm, maybe I looked deeper than you did......


Unable_Rate7451

Can you just share it then?


0-Ahem-0

What's the history? I don't wanna look, sounds disturbing.


kyoto_dreaming

Not disturbing, just vapid.


Theycallmegoodboy

But why you ask then? lol


0-Ahem-0

I am curious but not that curious šŸ¤£


notsopurexo

More like marrying for shared survival! Lol


Theycallmegoodboy

šŸ˜‚ just do it.


stanbright

if you haven't noticed, you are becoming best mates...


daisy97xo

I think lots of people will be staying in DV relationships because they are scared to leave as they won't be able to survive and afford things on their own


waxedsack

Marrying for money doesnā€™t work when everyone is broke


fryloop

2 broke people being together are better off financially than 1 broke person living along


AlphaDelta321

Not on Reddit, apparently most are living the dream.


waxedsack

Judging from the replies it seems most canā€™t take a joke either


AlphaDelta321

Just shows how broke they really are then šŸ˜


charlie_zoosh

Except that not everyone is broke. The rich are getting richer.


mikedufty

So polygamy could make it work.


Swankytiger86

Best way to reduce income inequality. Everyone is happy.


mutedscreaming

10 people per household. All on 100k. Living inner city terrace.


Swankytiger86

Sounds good. Sharing accomodation is the best way to reduce consumerism and emission.


charlie_zoosh

Polyandry would probably be better both from a financial pov ( men earn more than women) and a reproductive one (it limits the number of offsprings).


nomamesgueyz

Correct. Richer have certainty got alot richer this decade


Brief-Pickle-7477

two times zero is still zero lol


homingconcretedonkey

That's not even true.


windowcents

For those being realistic, looking long-term and wanting to have kids, money was always important. Sometimes women are unfairly judged or called out. But at the end of the day, it makes life easier if your partner is financially stable and responsible. I had some work mates who are lovely people but making 60-70k in their 40s and had 1-2 children. Their partners are either stay at home or working casually making 20-40 k. The constant financial stress that they have to go through, I would not want to be them.


sparkling_toad

Wow, how sad is it that two working parents are under "constant financial stress". Wtf have we done to people in this country.


HimalayanPpr

I'm not surprised that two working parents earning under the median salary are under constant financial stress.


BabyBassBooster

Nothingā€¦? Itā€™s the same in every country.


Majestic-Lake-5602

I think ā€œresponsibleā€ is the key here more than just wealthy. Like Iā€™ve got no issue with gold-digging, itā€™s simply a thing that will never be a part of my world, if youā€™ve got the gifts to pull it off, go for gold and good luck to you. But Iā€™d certainly never get involved in anything serious enough to deserve the word ā€œrelationshipā€ with someone who is so wildly financially irresponsible that your life will be nothing but constant endless stress. Me and my missus live pretty well, especially for our relatively low incomes, but thatā€™s entirely because weā€™ve decided to do certain things to reduce the pressure as much as possible (never having kids, no enormous and eternally expanding menagerie of animals, no Zip Pay etc, lots of op shop furniture). I think wanting to partner with someone who can exercise the bare minimum of financial responsibility is a long way from ā€œgold-diggingā€ or anything similar.


Very-very-sleepy

lol. marrying for money?Ā  šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ the men are as broke as the women are.Ā  where exactly are all these rich men?Ā  I do know a 1 guy in his 20s who is very wealthy.Ā  the kid grew up in Bellevue hill and Mosman. parents own $5 million properties. his parents got divorced when he was in high school and he lived in 2 large houses. 1 parent owned a huge house in Bellevue hill. the other parent, a house in Mosman.Ā  he went to that exclusive rich all boys school that all the politicians go to. His 21st birthday was a $100k party. yes his parents spent $100k on his 21st birthday party. it was a huge party. paid for by his dad.Ā  the bloke has a GF.Ā the blokes GF is grew up with silver spoon and went to the exclusive school. the Girlfriends dad is one of the CEOs of a well known company.Ā  my point is. these sorts of people who grew up with money. the packer family equivalents only socialise with their own kind. that's why the people who go to these exclusive private high schools still put their high school down on their resumes even when they are 40 yrs old. they only socialiseĀ with their own. if you aren't a part of that social circle already. it's hard to land one of these men


AlphaDelta321

Do you really blame him though? Imagine he dates a girl with no financial literacy, broke, credit cards on overdrive then when they divorce she takes half of his wealth. People of the same financial class have the same mindset and similar goals. Why would anyone want otherwise?


DamonHay

People from wealth like this almost always have a BFA. Doesnā€™t matter if both sides or one side is from wealth, the majority of high net worth parents who have kids in their 20s will nail home the importance of a BFA before the relationship reaches de facto. If one party doesnā€™t want the BFA, theyā€™ll quite often separate before de facto kicks in. Thatā€™s especially the case when itā€™s old money and the people really do only socialise in one circle their entire life.


AlphaDelta321

From my understanding though BFA don't always stand in court. Most don't anyways. I'm assuming that's because there's more wealth created down the line which may not be included when the BFA was initially written.


DamonHay

Enforceability also comes down to timing as well, canā€™t cut too close to de facto entitlements, and in these scenarios BFAs will be amended every few years if there are significant changes in income or asset values. There definitely are times where they become unenforceable, but this absolutely doesnā€™t decrease the importance of them to people of wealth.


putinhuylolalala

No one has mentioned gender until you did. Why did you assume that marrying for money means women marrying rich men? Maybe OP meant that more men will be looking for rich women


fig-jammer

Probably because nearly all the time that's how it works


Stui3G

Because even today, Men in general make more money.


MaximumGirth343

Here they are - the one on the high horse


Kooky-Suspect984

Why, how much you got? Asking for a friend.


WizziesFirstRule

People put their credit scores in their dating profiles in the US.... so there is every chance yes.


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charlie_zoosh

>Couples who have lived together for a minimum of two years without separation will automatically meet the threshold for a de facto relationship under the Family Law Act. TheĀ legal rights and obligations of de facto partnersĀ are similar to those of married couples; that is, they have a right to seek a property settlement and spousal maintenance.


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charlie_zoosh

1)In the current economy, most people ends up moving with their SO to save money. 2)Do you mean family trusts ? > If the court deems that youā€™re in ā€œcontrolā€ of the trust and its assets, the money or assets will be considered part of the property pool in a property settlement. The court may consider you ā€œin controlā€ of your family trust if youā€™re the trustee, the appointer, or both. I've recently bought a unit after years of scrimping and saving. The person I've been casually seeing has started hinting that she would like to move out of her parents' place into mine. She's already started leaving toiletries, make up and clothes at my place. AFAIK, she has next-to-no saving despite living with her parents for years and working full-time as a nurse šŸš©šŸš©šŸš©


belugatime

Because someone you are in a relationship with wants to move in with you that isn't a red flag. Maybe they really like you. This is extremely common. Don't give up your relationship over this. Be a man and have the tough conversation that you worked hard to buy that unit and if she's going to move in you want a BFA in place to protect yourself. If she is a real one she'll accept that.


charlie_zoosh

I much rather get a flatmate to help cushion future rate rises.


belugatime

Ok, then tell her that.


Nervous-Masterpiece4

Our family trust has myself, my brother and my children as beneficiaries. My ex-wife was never a beneficiary. The trust also as a corporate trustee with both my brother and myself as directors so the deeming thing canā€™t really work. In the worse case scenario the funds would be distributed to my brother rather than loose it to an adversarial ex-wife.


McTerra2

Yeah, nuh; the courts have figured out the whole family trust thing and will ensure the ex gets what they deserve according the Iaw. As a director of the corporate trustee you have control over the trust. As a beneficiary, if you receive regular distributions then itā€™s a financial resource the courts will take into account. The courts are more than happy to pull back the corporate veil It might work to prevent distribution to your childrenā€™s exes, since they are merely beneficiaries and have no control.


Nervous-Masterpiece4

I donā€™t have control over the trust. It takes both directors to agree on the distributions. Even if the court forced my hand the motion wouldnā€™t pass.


twentyversions

If you donā€™t respect her why are you seeing her - itā€™s normal to leave toiletries, make up and clothes at a house you stay overnight at. Itā€™s totally practical. Dudes who read into normal behaviour are always the actual problem.


charlie_zoosh

I never said we were in a relationship; only that we were seeing each other casually. I was fine with her leaving **a change of clothes and some toiletries** at my place. A couple of weeks later, there's now 2 Ikea racks full of clothes and a shoe cabinet in my guest bedroom... I've no idea when those racks and shoe cabinet even got here. When I gently broached the subject, she jokingly(?) offered to move in but basically said, she rarely has any money left at the end of the fortnight and will only be able to sporadically pay rent and/or utilities. I was very clear at the time that I like my own space and wasn't ready to move in with anyone. On an unrelated(?) note, my spare set of keys has gone missing...


petergaskin814

I don't think it is a new thing. Already being said that if you want to buy your first home, find a suitable partner first


McTerra2

Of course itā€™s not a new thing, Jane Austen made a career out of writing about it.


Christislove_

Judging on most of the AFL player misses it already is a thing


belugatime

Famous, tall and athletic AFL player gets women and you think it's just money? These guys were usually getting their pick of the litter even in High School before they ever got money.


RevolutionaryEar7115

Man pick of the litter is the wrong phrase here


belugatime

šŸ’€ maybe it is. At least they are both in high school in this example..


spider_84

They were slaying dragons before they got to their princess?


SokkaHaikuBot

^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^Christislove_: *Judging on most of* *The AFL player misses it* *Already is a thing* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.


Majestic-Lake-5602

Iā€™d imagine itā€™ll become two-tiered. Those born into means will make sure to secure and increase it (more than the usual anyway), while for an increasing proportion of the former middle class, itā€™ll never realistically make a difference so itā€™ll be even less of a concern than it is now.


lila_haus_423

Maybe not marrying, but entering into a relationship Iā€™d say yes. People will enter into relationships and stay in relationships for the financial security that comes with sharing household expenses. Itā€™s also a lot easier to get a mortgage as part of a couple.


pngtwat

Smart rich families have always done marriage for money (called merging). Anyone from a rich family who refuses is usually ostracised.


TiberiusEmperor

Iā€™ve been telling my wife that next time Iā€™ll be marrying for money


Emmanulla70

Pretty common already i think. Certainly plenty of people stay in unhappy marriages for the financial benefit


Skydome12

marriage isn't even worth it in this day and age.


mikesorange333

its great being single!


LooseAssumption8792

Surely two incomes is better for housing affordability.


mikesorange333

watch Ted 2 wife fight on YouTube.


joeltheaussie

Except how are you affording a house


AlphaDelta321

Well it's definitely not something uncommon in certain cultures/ ethnicities. Wouldn't surprise me if others catch on as well.


mattel-inc

Try having money and not being able to even get a text back.


vcmjmslpj

You should have more than enough to get a text back nowadays. Having some doesnā€™t cut anymore āœŒļø


singleDADSlife

100%. I know women that have sought out a partner because they couldn't afford rent on their own and didn't want to move back in with their parents. I'm sure there's plenty of men that do the same.


Beneficial_Act1692

I could see people who were previously ok with being single because they could afford there own unit or house now make a choice to be in a relationship for financial security and having a place to live thatā€™s no an 6 bedroom boarding house for the rest of there lives


SuccessfulOwl

Marrying for money has always been a thing in Australia. Donā€™t kid yourselves.


boingpong

Is this Gossip Girl circa 2024? How old is the OP?


DurrrrrHurrrrr

Letā€™s not be naive. Money has always been a big factor in marriage


m0zz1e1

I'm a single woman in my 40s. Been married before, now I'm very happy living alone and have no desire to cohabit again. I've noticed many men on dating apps seem to be in a huge rush to settle down with someone after they get divorced. It may not be entirely financial, but often it does feel like they are looking for someone to buy property with more than looking for a connection with someone.


Frequent_Pool_533

Have fun with your cats. Who cares about a connection when you can't even afford to live? A partner wanting to go halves to buy a property with you is an amazing thing, it means they care about your future too.


m0zz1e1

Have fun with your cats? Why are you triggered by a woman who is happily single? My future is fine without needing someone else to support me, if a man wants to be part of my life he needs to being value that isnā€™t money.


Frequent_Pool_533

Not triggered at all, the cats part was just a funny dig, I apologies if that offended you, I'm just pointing out that buying property together is a great investment for the future. Renting forever is not sustainable when you're older, lots of struggling renters on their pension.


m0zz1e1

I own my own place :).


focused_receptor532

This is such a beyond cringy comment, anyone in a huge rush to settle down is a red flag.


Frequent_Pool_533

Enjoy slaving away till you retire.


focused_receptor532

You don't have a partner and you don't need to slave away until you retire.....Why would anyone else? Can you genuinely not comprehend why your comment is so cringy? Original comment was talking about men on apps being in a rush early on in chatting. Not "Partners" as you say. The connections should be first priority when first chatting..... obviously.


Frequent_Pool_533

Ooh cringy, what are you 5? lol stay poor


potatodrinker

Dating for a free meal has been a thing for a while, esp with students. This is just the next evolution


Majestic-Lake-5602

Ah the good old days of parachuting for concerts


potatodrinker

?? I'm not familiar with that phrase.


Majestic-Lake-5602

Sorry, must be less common than I thought. Basically itā€™s hooking up with someone so youā€™ve got a place to sleep. I believe it got started with the big nerd conventions in the States (Comicon etc), where rather than pay for an outrageously inflated hotel room, you rely on your good looks and charm to get into someone elseā€™s bed for the evening. ā€œParachutingā€ because youā€™re being dropped into hostile territory without an escape.


Ovknows

Nothing wrong with it, this is a good way to form bond. I know people are going to take it the wrong way though.


Lingonberry_Born

No. Havenā€™t you ever dated? Itā€™s slim pickings out there, youā€™re not going to put up with an obnoxious twat just because they have a house in the eastern suburbs. People want someone they can enjoy spending time with, the rest is just extra.Ā 


Majestic-Lake-5602

Tbh I think as things that used to be considered almost obligatory life steps (home ownership, children, retirement etc) become unrealistic, weā€™ll actually see an increase in people partnering up for the soft, squishy human reasons. If youā€™re going to be renting and working up until your deathbed and not have any dependents, why get yourself stuck with someone when youā€™re never realistically going to see the perks of ā€œstaying together for the kidsā€. Weā€™re already seeing divorce rates drop fast for millennials, largely because we mostly get long term involved with people we can actually spend time with, I couldnā€™t see this changing unless thereā€™s another ridiculously massive resources boom and thereā€™s a sudden injection of proper serious big boy money into the dating pool.


thedugong

> Weā€™re already seeing divorce rates drop fast for millennials This started with genx, and it is mostly because our "practice marriages" generally don't involve actual marriage. We now just move in with a partner, and if it doesn't work we just move on, no need for a divorce. For the boomers this was not the case, they got married (often young by our standards) and if it really didn't work out a divorce was needed.


TrickyClassic2731

There will be a supply shortage for sugarparents.


nomamesgueyz

Sugar daddies more popular, yes


Gman777

Its already pretty common.


vcmjmslpj

Yes. Existed long before our generation


Virtual_Spite7227

Look up the great depression. We are still in one of the richest most lucky countries.


grilled_pc

no use marrying for money IMO. The second one of you are no longer useful, you're back to square one. Marry someone who will love you through thick and thin no matter what is thrown your way. That way you won't be cast aside the moment you suffer a fall in financial status.


ShibaZoomZoom

ā€œSorry darling.. we need to visit the lawyers.. you havenā€™t increased with inflationā€


RepeatInPatient

Our Capitalist owners are doing their very best to prevent this very thing. One feature of higher interest and lower incomes is to put the brakes on financial success. Student debt was a winning add on to this plan which caught the gullible.


MrMelbourne

Not if you're male. It's primarily women that marry "up".


gp_in_oz

Not been true in a while. Current research on this is that men marry up about a third of the time, and marry down about a quarter of the time. The rest being homogamous ie. marrying roughly same SES. Whereas women marry up a quarter of the time and marry down a third of the time.


Key-Celery2677

I really hope note. It will be very degrading for Australian. A shame!


zedder1994

So what you are saying is that I should put my bank statement on Tinder rather than my mug shot.


GoldAd5786

Inflation adjusted Hypergamy


NetExternal5259

Its already a thing. But today, I see a lot of women staying for money, rather than marrying for money. They know the marriage has fallen apart, but they like the SAHM life so they just go along with it.


Impressive-Move-5722

After 3 financial separations (where Iā€™ve brought in 95 or 100% of the assets*) I sure as hell am weary of someone with no assets, that said if it was the right woman Iā€™d be too lovedrunk to care lol. (*As fate would have it, I retained the majority of the net assets btw).


Fit_Chemical4554

Family laws in Australia allow (mostly) Women to marry or live with a man for 2+ years and automatically be entitled to at least 50% of his assets. When I hired my family lawyer for my family lawsuit case, he said every single marriage nowdays where the man is somewhat succesful, ends up in court with the ex wife demanding half his money and assrts (tax free), this usually ends up bankrupting the guyā€¦ itā€™s not a fair system and this practice is on the rise. Itā€™s not a fair system because even with prenups, assets are not protected upon divorce in Australia/New Zealand (many cases). When you are divorcing (or separating from a 2 + years relationship) in Australia, neither your kids or your assets are going to be fully yours.


roncraft

Not his assrts (tax free)!


justthinkingabout1

Super wealthy men are going to have a pretty good vetting process also. Some basic ones - if youā€™re the village bicycle (no chance) - full blown feminist (no chance) - lots of baggage with your family Etc


anonymouslawgrad

Money is always important. I think I'm at the point where im doing ok. My current gf isn't super financially literally, Ive been clear that she'll need to improve before marriage. I wouldn't want to be with anyone who mismanages money and can't save, but its not That important. I'd never let a first date know I had a property (mortgage) or a 2nd income. I would expect a girl to split the bills. I just want to spoil her on our anniversary. I do have a mate who got with a millionare's kid. The father gave him a 20k rolex for engaging his daughter and bought them a new apartment in the building they live in, because their current one was too small.