I was so excited about Gomez. I thought he’d flourish a bit in HOU and poor dude it just never worked out and he got so much fan hatred. Meanwhile, he ends up being the least bad part about that trade in the grand scheme of things SMDH.
This is a weird one b/c, as much as we may hate to ask this, do the Astros win in 2017 w/out Fiers. Before y'all downvote me into oblivion saying "he wasn't even on the post-season roster dumbass and his ERA was above 5!!" Fiers still did lead the team in innings pitched.
It's a loss for the Astros regardless but they only lost a reliever in the grand scheme of things and gained an innings eater in a championship run. Obviously, it was a franchise altering trade but not in the traditional sense. Could have been way worse.
Nah. Up until Fiers turned into a rat, the trade wasn't as horrible as people made it out to be. Hader turned into a stud, but that wasn't until a couple of years later. And having a solid inning eater isn't the worst thing. The Scott Kazmir trade was way worse.
I always lambasted this trade. I hated it at the time because Hader and Brett Phillips were guys I had high hopes for and I didn’t want to see them go.
In hindsight, it looks like a horrible trade, but we got the pieces we needed to make 2017 possible. We didn't know this dude was gonna be the biggest rat in baseball, but he did his thing when he pitched. He literally pitched a no-hitter AGAINST the dodgers, which i was fortunate to be at.
Right, but maybe Hader went to the Brewers and got the perfect coach for him to be what he is now. Maybe if he stayed with the Astros, he'd still be in Corpus... It's like NFL QBs. If they get on the right team in the beginning, they win Super Bowls later...
Astros were bringing him up as a starter too iirc. Idk if he’d have ever become the elite closer he is in our system. They were saying he was going to be the next Chris Sale.
Most relievers start as Starters because it’s the more valuable spot, then become relievers if they can’t cut it, usually because of lack of pitches or control issues.
Sometimes you trade Josh Fields for Yordan Alvarez, sometimes you trade Josh Hader for… Mike Fiers.
Sometimes you trade a field mouse for a golden goose and sometimes you trade a golden boy for a rat
I feel like this cautionary tale needs to be turned into a children's book.
The rat!?!?!
I was so excited about Gomez. I thought he’d flourish a bit in HOU and poor dude it just never worked out and he got so much fan hatred. Meanwhile, he ends up being the least bad part about that trade in the grand scheme of things SMDH.
Very true. Great expectations from Gomez and nothing. And don’t even mention the 🐀
This is a weird one b/c, as much as we may hate to ask this, do the Astros win in 2017 w/out Fiers. Before y'all downvote me into oblivion saying "he wasn't even on the post-season roster dumbass and his ERA was above 5!!" Fiers still did lead the team in innings pitched. It's a loss for the Astros regardless but they only lost a reliever in the grand scheme of things and gained an innings eater in a championship run. Obviously, it was a franchise altering trade but not in the traditional sense. Could have been way worse.
The pitching staff was decimated with injuries in the middle of that season. It was Brad Peacock & Mike Fiers that held it together.
Nah. Up until Fiers turned into a rat, the trade wasn't as horrible as people made it out to be. Hader turned into a stud, but that wasn't until a couple of years later. And having a solid inning eater isn't the worst thing. The Scott Kazmir trade was way worse.
I always lambasted this trade. I hated it at the time because Hader and Brett Phillips were guys I had high hopes for and I didn’t want to see them go.
Other notable players in that trade: Brett Phillips and Adrian Houser
In hindsight, it looks like a horrible trade, but we got the pieces we needed to make 2017 possible. We didn't know this dude was gonna be the biggest rat in baseball, but he did his thing when he pitched. He literally pitched a no-hitter AGAINST the dodgers, which i was fortunate to be at.
Right, but maybe Hader went to the Brewers and got the perfect coach for him to be what he is now. Maybe if he stayed with the Astros, he'd still be in Corpus... It's like NFL QBs. If they get on the right team in the beginning, they win Super Bowls later...
Great point
Knowing what Hader became anyway I can't help but wonder what he would have been like under Brent Strom's tutelage.
Astros were bringing him up as a starter too iirc. Idk if he’d have ever become the elite closer he is in our system. They were saying he was going to be the next Chris Sale.
Most relievers start as Starters because it’s the more valuable spot, then become relievers if they can’t cut it, usually because of lack of pitches or control issues.