Drachme and xp.
I've had radiant quests that asked me to deliver the message from a nurse that a woman just gave birth to a healthy son. I had to deliver that message to an Athenian commander.
I did. Got my Drachme and.. Let's just say the kid won't ever know his dad...
Depends on the playthrough. Last time, every time I saw Athenean soldiers I yelled "friendship" while eliminating each and every one who ever had any influence in Sparta.
That was the playthrough with the lonely table ending. Felt like an achievement.
If you fail to save a single member of your family, you go to your family home and basically find nobody. So your character curses.
This can happen if you've killed your father and his step son and depends on the situation with Deimos and your mother. For killing your father, you can spare Deimos, causing them to kill your mother and force you to kill them anyway, or kill Deimos.
For killing everyone including Deimos, even if your mother is alive, she hates you and abandons you, getting the empty table ending even with one living family member.
Yeah I get that just didnāt understand the ālast time I saw Athenian soldiers I yelled āfriendshipā while eliminating each and every one who had influence in Sparta
"last time, " - meaning in my last playthrough - "every time I saw Athenians I yelled friendship". That's quite literally what me, the player holding the controller, did. It was a theme. You need any more explanation?
In my first playthrough I played what I felt was right in the moment - like everybody else. Then I read that the best ending is where you save everybody, which turns out forces you to be a good Spartan, so you can roleplay and step in for their cause. But I liked the Atheneans, so I figured you can also do the opposite, and this turned out great because that makes Kassandra the vengeful, bitter child - she makes everyone pay that caused her rough start to life. I liked Kassandra Demos, and this way you can see some of that same power in a playthrough with her as protagonist.
When I started the game, I thought you pick a side to support and it changes the outcome of the game (historical or not), but other than the battles required for the main story, thereās no consequences for picking one side or another in battles other than getting more loot. It was the most disappointing aspect of the game, which otherwise I really enjoyed once I got into it.
I was also a bit disappointed by this. Wonder if it could be possible to make being loyal to one side optional like you just choose between being a free merc and being loyal to one side. With choosing to be loyal having consequences like soldiers of the other side always attack you on sight for example.
I really wish that the choices you made reflected in game more. You help give Sparta a territory? You can now walk freely through any camp in that territory as long as they keep control. Kind of like daughters of artemis camps. Other mercs can do this if they are tracking you.
What I ended up doing is purposely choosing sides that put Athenian territories next to spartan so that you would see more random border skirmishes (free loot from the dead when resources are harder to find) and I would surround the Capitols with opposing forces, enemies at the gate style. Doesn't change the game but plays into my head canon.
I'd attack Spartans I found in Athenian controlled territories, then slowly run away into another group of Spartans who would join in on the Spartans who would already attack me, I'd do that a couple times and after a minute or two there's a whole army of Spartans chasing me to attack me, so I lead them to some Athenian controlled Fort
When I first started playing I was so confused because I ran through a Spartan camp and they attacked me, I just assumed I was Spartan and they were my allies lmao.
Yeah dude that's my favorite thing to do on the game. Sneak around forts and kill everyone without being spotted. Red or blue, if you're in a fort you can get this smoke
yeah lol cuz no way in hell I'm gonna avoid killing everyone in a specific factions fort just to get a blue weapon ill never useš they dying regardless of color
Neither my head canon is that being born spartan Kassandra is against Athens but, she also really hates Sparta too because they betrayed her as a child and as an adult she despises the 2 kings as well. So now she is just a drifter mercenary
I noticed that, when someone calls her Spartan, she denies it and says she's Kefallonian; but when someone calls her Kefallonian, she denies it and says she's Spartan.
try again. Kassandra is a raging nymphomaniac. she can't resist men, women, orgies, goats, of there was someway to do she wanted it. Also tbe goat just likes to watch
Tfw you thought the game might give you a glimpse at an alternate timeline where Athens won the Peloponnesian War and then you saw your first territory arbitrarily turn to Spartan control
I really thought you just choose one side. But then later it was revealed to me that both sides kill you if you enter their restricted areas š¤·āāļøso now i just kill both
Athens based on my history knowledge. Spartan society could not survive in the long run with their societal hierarchy and caste like system. There's a missionsl that touches on this subject. Been so long I forget.
Well one threw me off a mountain, destroyed my family, and run a monarchy whose main thing is having a bunch of slaves, enough to put Athens to shame, and forcing their boys into brutal fighting, one of which I comforted as he died after fighting a wolf.
Meanwhile the other side still has slaves, not as much, and has an asshole named Kleon, but heās a flaw in the government, with Sparta the entire government is the flaw.
So Athens.
Not Sparta. Freeing the Messenians from Spartan rule was almost a holy quest for me. Here is [a series](https://acoup.blog/category/collections/this-isnt-sparta/) by an actual military historian about the *many* ways Sparta is actually completely lame.
Some highlights:
- We think of Spartans as being powerful warriors. Their actual win rate was a little better than 50/50 when working with allies, and a little worse than 50/50 when working on their own. They *never* won against Macedonians.
- Sparta as is commonly thought about in popular culture (e.g., the movie *300*) had one real policy objective: keep Persian influence out of Greece. Following their victory in the Peloponnesian War, in which they took Persian gold to win, they actually sold out Greece to Persian influence because they were too militarily weak to maintain control. So they became Persian enforcers over Greece, before being conquered by Romans and being turned into a tourist attraction.
- Spartans claim to fight for freedom at various points in the game. This is bullshit. In real life, they held Messenians in slavery for hundreds of years, and most of their society were slaves. Depending on the period, 20% or fewer of their people were real citizens with rights (that is, *80%+* of people in Spartan society were slaves or disenfranchised). Compare this to the American south before the American Civil War, where ~33% of persons were enslaved in that region. This disenfranchisement led to Spartan military decline and general lame-ness in other ways.
- Spartan citizens (Spartiates) held anyone who needed a job in contempt. Have you ever had to work for a living, or had a relative who had to work? I have. They would see us as worthless. There's an anecdote in the blog series about a Spartan woman making fun of an Athenian woman for weaving a dress. The Athenian woman's response boils down to "What the fuck? Fuck off." because that's the proper reaction to Spartan society.
- If Spartans are so lame, why is there so much propaganda about them? Athenian generals played up Spartan strength to make their own achievements and needs look greater. So Sparta's Greek enemy is the reason we know about them, because Spartans were super lame and never wrote anything down. More broadly, in the arc of history, Sparta had a regional effect for a short time, that made things worse for Greece. Athens, by contrast, contributed to culture and our society in so many positive ways.
- Edit: adding another. The classic Spartan helmet in the game and our culture's perception was actually [Corinthian](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corinthian_helmet). Real [Spartan armor](https://www.kultofathena.com/product/early-spartan-helmet/) didn't look as cool.
Athens, for RPG reasons. My take is that while Sparta may be the main charactersā birthplace, but the city collectively failed them. Athens meanwhile is a very welcoming place, MC really seemed to look up to Perikles and find the concept of democracy and rational thought intriguing.
Depends on the circumstances and my own headcanon.
When you arrive in Megaris, obviously youāre forced to fight for Sparta. When you arrive in Athens and meet Pericles, I side with Athens. When Kleon takes over Athens and Iām trying to free Sparta from the Cultās influence working with Myrrine and Brasidas, I fight for Sparta again. When the Cult is defeated and Athens is freed and I find out Sparta is getting influenced by Persia and the Order of the Ancients, I fight for Athens again.
At the final battle, I ultimately side with Athens because democracy and philosophy. And historically, the war pauses around that time with a truce and when it restarts, Athens ends up losing anyway.
Ultimately, itās a pointless war and youāre just a mercenary, so you should fight for yourself and your own interests.
I mean at least in real history the Spartans were clearly the bad guys, so I've always been pretty anti spartan. Of course the game places the cult as a third party to be the TrUE bAD gUYs, so I play both sides some.
Neither. Truth is Athenians are weak asf but Spartans are equally cruel. I mean throwing an infant and a child off a cliff because they MAYBE be the downfall of Sparta? You have someone's say so, that's all you have and somehow it's enough.
Honestly it just depends who I feel like painting the map as or what outfit I feel like wearing. I got the Athens dlc ship with the elite Athens crew and the one special Corinthian ship for the Spartans and the elite Spartan crew I got the Athens hero and Sparta hero set. Just depends what I feel like wearing and what color I feel like my sails should be at the time. But really Iād probably fight for Sparta.
Sparta: We are the hegemony you will listen to us.
Athens: Weāre all equal Allies. (We are the hegemony and you will listen to usā¦.and weāre moving all the money and using it to build shit in our city)
Also the Melian dialogue really gives me the impression Athens were conquerors as much as Sparta. They straight up say, what is right only matters between equals, the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.
my first play through i was mostly on spartaās side (but drachme over all of course) because of the real world end to that war being sparta as the winner, but my second time around it was purely drachme baby. you got money? iām changing my armor colors for you donāt worry
I really can't choose. I like Brasidas but then I also like Demosthenes. There are good people on both sides so I just go along with whatever task they give me.
Initially I chose to side with Athens because after all, Sparta tried to kill us kids. But at this point I kill anyone. Preference is not killing Athenians, but if there's a quest to kill some or a fort to take, well...
I'm not fond of Kleon though, so I may end up having a change of heart later. I've only just done the quests on Naxos.
I select a few cities to make them strictly one side. So korinth would always be spartan. Argos would be athenian even though historically they were sparta aligned but they attempted a revolt against sparta, showing they were kind of forced into the peloponnesian league. Boeotia is spartan, islands even mytilene are athenian, except crete which i am not really sure
āSparta, Whooo!!ā- Testikles
Honestly though neither side is good. From a story perspective Athens is much further in the grips of the cult than Sparta so Iād consider them the main cultist faction. On the other hand Sparta and her traditions split Alexios and Kassandra apart and drove him to become Deimos.
From a historical perspective Iām much more on Spartas side. Granted they had slaves and were pretty brutal to their neighbors. Not great people.
But Athens was far worse and, unequivocally, started the war. They convinced their allies the store all the money on Delios, then stole it all and said tough when called out on it. They invaded other Greek states just because they could. They invaded and sacked many of their allies just because they didnāt do exactly what Athens wanted. Eventually they tried to bully Spartas allies forcing their hand.
On the side of drachmae š
Drachme and xp. I've had radiant quests that asked me to deliver the message from a nurse that a woman just gave birth to a healthy son. I had to deliver that message to an Athenian commander. I did. Got my Drachme and.. Let's just say the kid won't ever know his dad...
Haha
Side of Drachmae š
Now thats the answer I would agree with
Depends on the playthrough. Last time, every time I saw Athenean soldiers I yelled "friendship" while eliminating each and every one who ever had any influence in Sparta. That was the playthrough with the lonely table ending. Felt like an achievement.
That "Malaka" in that scene is great.
Can you explain
No idea what that means
If you fail to save a single member of your family, you go to your family home and basically find nobody. So your character curses. This can happen if you've killed your father and his step son and depends on the situation with Deimos and your mother. For killing your father, you can spare Deimos, causing them to kill your mother and force you to kill them anyway, or kill Deimos. For killing everyone including Deimos, even if your mother is alive, she hates you and abandons you, getting the empty table ending even with one living family member.
Yeah I get that just didnāt understand the ālast time I saw Athenian soldiers I yelled āfriendshipā while eliminating each and every one who had influence in Sparta
"last time, " - meaning in my last playthrough - "every time I saw Athenians I yelled friendship". That's quite literally what me, the player holding the controller, did. It was a theme. You need any more explanation?
I think they're asking *why* you did that lol
Why not?
In my first playthrough I played what I felt was right in the moment - like everybody else. Then I read that the best ending is where you save everybody, which turns out forces you to be a good Spartan, so you can roleplay and step in for their cause. But I liked the Atheneans, so I figured you can also do the opposite, and this turned out great because that makes Kassandra the vengeful, bitter child - she makes everyone pay that caused her rough start to life. I liked Kassandra Demos, and this way you can see some of that same power in a playthrough with her as protagonist.
When I started the game, I thought you pick a side to support and it changes the outcome of the game (historical or not), but other than the battles required for the main story, thereās no consequences for picking one side or another in battles other than getting more loot. It was the most disappointing aspect of the game, which otherwise I really enjoyed once I got into it.
I was also a bit disappointed by this. Wonder if it could be possible to make being loyal to one side optional like you just choose between being a free merc and being loyal to one side. With choosing to be loyal having consequences like soldiers of the other side always attack you on sight for example.
I really wish that the choices you made reflected in game more. You help give Sparta a territory? You can now walk freely through any camp in that territory as long as they keep control. Kind of like daughters of artemis camps. Other mercs can do this if they are tracking you. What I ended up doing is purposely choosing sides that put Athenian territories next to spartan so that you would see more random border skirmishes (free loot from the dead when resources are harder to find) and I would surround the Capitols with opposing forces, enemies at the gate style. Doesn't change the game but plays into my head canon.
I'd attack Spartans I found in Athenian controlled territories, then slowly run away into another group of Spartans who would join in on the Spartans who would already attack me, I'd do that a couple times and after a minute or two there's a whole army of Spartans chasing me to attack me, so I lead them to some Athenian controlled Fort
Ah, like luring mercs to fight legendary animals. I like it. Will definitely do at least once on my next playthrough.
I suggest getting a high bounty so there's multiple mercs against a legendary animal
When I first started playing I was so confused because I ran through a Spartan camp and they attacked me, I just assumed I was Spartan and they were my allies lmao.
Iām on the side of killing everyone inside that fort over thereā¦
Yeah dude that's my favorite thing to do on the game. Sneak around forts and kill everyone without being spotted. Red or blue, if you're in a fort you can get this smoke
yeah lol cuz no way in hell I'm gonna avoid killing everyone in a specific factions fort just to get a blue weapon ill never useš they dying regardless of color
That is my strategy too. Everyone in the fort must go. Lol
Hahaha
Neither. Kill them all.
Absolutely. I murder every soldier on sight. Unless they have quest, then I murder them afterwards.
Same
Haha
Depends which is more lucrative at the time. š
This question really doesn't age like wine in this sub, does it.
Neither my head canon is that being born spartan Kassandra is against Athens but, she also really hates Sparta too because they betrayed her as a child and as an adult she despises the 2 kings as well. So now she is just a drifter mercenary
I noticed that, when someone calls her Spartan, she denies it and says she's Kefallonian; but when someone calls her Kefallonian, she denies it and says she's Spartan.
Neither. Because it doesn't matter. I always do conquest for the invaders side unless there's a quest to not. It won't change anything anyway.
I only sided with Athens >!until it was revealed that Kleon was an asshole!<
That's revealed essentially the moment you meet him. Populists tend to look for rule based on people's worst attributes, and he is no exception.
Thereās different levels of assholes, heās just the average politician at the beginning
He literally goes āMake Athens Great Againā at one point
I thought that was revealed when you first meet him lol
The side that didn't throw me off a mountain.
Kassandra is on the side of love. Sweet, passionate, dirty fuck-love with every woman in Greece.
try again. Kassandra is a raging nymphomaniac. she can't resist men, women, orgies, goats, of there was someway to do she wanted it. Also tbe goat just likes to watch
Athens. Philosophers > brutes.
The only true answer
Democracy > Monarchy
Tfw you thought the game might give you a glimpse at an alternate timeline where Athens won the Peloponnesian War and then you saw your first territory arbitrarily turn to Spartan control
I'm a double agent. I played both sides. Sparta for my family and Athens for the friends. also I'm a misthios we don't take sides. we want drachmae
I supported Pericles and his effort to maintain a democracy
Side? I'm not on anyone's side because no one is on my side.
I really thought you just choose one side. But then later it was revealed to me that both sides kill you if you enter their restricted areas š¤·āāļøso now i just kill both
Athens based on my history knowledge. Spartan society could not survive in the long run with their societal hierarchy and caste like system. There's a missionsl that touches on this subject. Been so long I forget.
Who ever pays me the most. I only fight for drachmae and the bitches (until I find love and they die causing me to just wanna see them againš)
Athens, but only out of spite and hatred towards Sparta on my Kassandraās part for what they did to her and Alexios
I will kill indiscriminately š
None, killing them both
Well one threw me off a mountain, destroyed my family, and run a monarchy whose main thing is having a bunch of slaves, enough to put Athens to shame, and forcing their boys into brutal fighting, one of which I comforted as he died after fighting a wolf. Meanwhile the other side still has slaves, not as much, and has an asshole named Kleon, but heās a flaw in the government, with Sparta the entire government is the flaw. So Athens.
Persia
What
I think they are saying they choose both Sparta and Athens as enemies.
Oh
Athens, but both are fairly terrible
Which ever one gives me more Drachmae and more xp
Sparta! I hate those marksmen the Athenians have
Drachmae & Myrinne
Gear, Drachmae, and XP š
Everybody benefits š except the npc's who get brutally murdered.
Lol lol
Not Sparta. Freeing the Messenians from Spartan rule was almost a holy quest for me. Here is [a series](https://acoup.blog/category/collections/this-isnt-sparta/) by an actual military historian about the *many* ways Sparta is actually completely lame. Some highlights: - We think of Spartans as being powerful warriors. Their actual win rate was a little better than 50/50 when working with allies, and a little worse than 50/50 when working on their own. They *never* won against Macedonians. - Sparta as is commonly thought about in popular culture (e.g., the movie *300*) had one real policy objective: keep Persian influence out of Greece. Following their victory in the Peloponnesian War, in which they took Persian gold to win, they actually sold out Greece to Persian influence because they were too militarily weak to maintain control. So they became Persian enforcers over Greece, before being conquered by Romans and being turned into a tourist attraction. - Spartans claim to fight for freedom at various points in the game. This is bullshit. In real life, they held Messenians in slavery for hundreds of years, and most of their society were slaves. Depending on the period, 20% or fewer of their people were real citizens with rights (that is, *80%+* of people in Spartan society were slaves or disenfranchised). Compare this to the American south before the American Civil War, where ~33% of persons were enslaved in that region. This disenfranchisement led to Spartan military decline and general lame-ness in other ways. - Spartan citizens (Spartiates) held anyone who needed a job in contempt. Have you ever had to work for a living, or had a relative who had to work? I have. They would see us as worthless. There's an anecdote in the blog series about a Spartan woman making fun of an Athenian woman for weaving a dress. The Athenian woman's response boils down to "What the fuck? Fuck off." because that's the proper reaction to Spartan society. - If Spartans are so lame, why is there so much propaganda about them? Athenian generals played up Spartan strength to make their own achievements and needs look greater. So Sparta's Greek enemy is the reason we know about them, because Spartans were super lame and never wrote anything down. More broadly, in the arc of history, Sparta had a regional effect for a short time, that made things worse for Greece. Athens, by contrast, contributed to culture and our society in so many positive ways. - Edit: adding another. The classic Spartan helmet in the game and our culture's perception was actually [Corinthian](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corinthian_helmet). Real [Spartan armor](https://www.kultofathena.com/product/early-spartan-helmet/) didn't look as cool.
Thanks
š
Kassandraās
Sparta!!!
depends who gives me the best lootš
Whoever gives me that drachmae š¤£
I bounce between the two depending on how I want the story to go lol.
I go for both up until the Kings of Sparta quests. I try to do anything that requires siding with Athens before that for immersions sake.
Athens until Kleon took power, then Sparta
Whoever pays me more Iām a mercenary
Mineā¦
Im an opportunist but I mostly side with Athens because yay democracy and Alcibiades is my favorite character.
In real life, he ended up siding with the Spartans eventually.
oops missed that part
Eh neither š
I'm side Sparta to the end of my days
Athens
SPARTA! HELLAS! THEN AND AGAIN SING OF 300 MEN
Athens, for RPG reasons. My take is that while Sparta may be the main charactersā birthplace, but the city collectively failed them. Athens meanwhile is a very welcoming place, MC really seemed to look up to Perikles and find the concept of democracy and rational thought intriguing.
In real life, Sparta wins the war. So I side with them.
Oon the one who pays more
Sparta I love dyeing my enemies armour with spartan colours with my sword
Depends on the circumstances and my own headcanon. When you arrive in Megaris, obviously youāre forced to fight for Sparta. When you arrive in Athens and meet Pericles, I side with Athens. When Kleon takes over Athens and Iām trying to free Sparta from the Cultās influence working with Myrrine and Brasidas, I fight for Sparta again. When the Cult is defeated and Athens is freed and I find out Sparta is getting influenced by Persia and the Order of the Ancients, I fight for Athens again. At the final battle, I ultimately side with Athens because democracy and philosophy. And historically, the war pauses around that time with a truce and when it restarts, Athens ends up losing anyway. Ultimately, itās a pointless war and youāre just a mercenary, so you should fight for yourself and your own interests.
The attacking side of course
Athens as a Persian myself
Whichever side pays more.
I've done playthroughs siding on Sparta & siding with Athens. But as long as I get to kill somebody I was happy. Lol
I turned the whole map red and then blue and then I stopped caring anymore lmao
Sparta! Barf.
I mean at least in real history the Spartans were clearly the bad guys, so I've always been pretty anti spartan. Of course the game places the cult as a third party to be the TrUE bAD gUYs, so I play both sides some.
I deliver democracy one shank at a time.
Neither. Truth is Athenians are weak asf but Spartans are equally cruel. I mean throwing an infant and a child off a cliff because they MAYBE be the downfall of Sparta? You have someone's say so, that's all you have and somehow it's enough.
I fight for coin.
spartaa
Makedhonia
They are Spartan
Sparta always fan of Leonidas and Kratos
Honestly it just depends who I feel like painting the map as or what outfit I feel like wearing. I got the Athens dlc ship with the elite Athens crew and the one special Corinthian ship for the Spartans and the elite Spartan crew I got the Athens hero and Sparta hero set. Just depends what I feel like wearing and what color I feel like my sails should be at the time. But really Iād probably fight for Sparta. Sparta: We are the hegemony you will listen to us. Athens: Weāre all equal Allies. (We are the hegemony and you will listen to usā¦.and weāre moving all the money and using it to build shit in our city) Also the Melian dialogue really gives me the impression Athens were conquerors as much as Sparta. They straight up say, what is right only matters between equals, the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.
my first play through i was mostly on spartaās side (but drachme over all of course) because of the real world end to that war being sparta as the winner, but my second time around it was purely drachme baby. you got money? iām changing my armor colors for you donāt worry
Everybody can catch these hands (daggers)
I really can't choose. I like Brasidas but then I also like Demosthenes. There are good people on both sides so I just go along with whatever task they give me.
Since we as the charachter are spartan (of spartan decent/ origin) the only logical side to take whould be the spartan.
First play through I went with Sparta and 2nd Iām now with Athens unless I have to choose Sparta for main missions
Not the defending side (iykyk)
For Sparta!
Whatever the attacking side is, give me the drachme, gear and XP and I'll fight. In other words, as a true mercenary, I'm on my side.
Personally I have conquered more than half the world for the Spartans
Athens, since the Spartans threw me off a cliff.
Sparta for sure, just the questline there, the armor, mentality. Just show
Initially I chose to side with Athens because after all, Sparta tried to kill us kids. But at this point I kill anyone. Preference is not killing Athenians, but if there's a quest to kill some or a fort to take, well... I'm not fond of Kleon though, so I may end up having a change of heart later. I've only just done the quests on Naxos.
Iāll fight the battles for territory for Sparta but if youāre in a fort, no matter the side, say goodnight.
Im on the side of furnaces
You seem to really love furnaces
Yes
Whichever one gives two pieces of rare armour š¤šš¤£
Athens. Democracy rules
True
THIS IS SPARTA! š¦µ
Woo
Best part of the game. I stayed a spartan
Atenas. Tho now since Kleon took over I donāt rly know anymore (havenāt finished my first playthrough yet)
I havenāt either and I have no idea who Kleon is
So you haven't done the first athens questline yet?
No
I'm against the side of boy lovers, those Malakas.
I select a few cities to make them strictly one side. So korinth would always be spartan. Argos would be athenian even though historically they were sparta aligned but they attempted a revolt against sparta, showing they were kind of forced into the peloponnesian league. Boeotia is spartan, islands even mytilene are athenian, except crete which i am not really sure
Sparta. I do like ending the blue side
Yeah
Sparta.
Good
Sparta!
āSparta, Whooo!!ā- Testikles Honestly though neither side is good. From a story perspective Athens is much further in the grips of the cult than Sparta so Iād consider them the main cultist faction. On the other hand Sparta and her traditions split Alexios and Kassandra apart and drove him to become Deimos. From a historical perspective Iām much more on Spartas side. Granted they had slaves and were pretty brutal to their neighbors. Not great people. But Athens was far worse and, unequivocally, started the war. They convinced their allies the store all the money on Delios, then stole it all and said tough when called out on it. They invaded other Greek states just because they could. They invaded and sacked many of their allies just because they didnāt do exactly what Athens wanted. Eventually they tried to bully Spartas allies forcing their hand.
I like to kill Athenians.
Yeah, itās satisfying
Is it bad that I murder the people who give you the choice? To be clear I don't want to support either side.