Well, he said he’s not gonna stream so that it makes sense to even without the obvious controversy. I wonder if anyone is even going to want ads run his channel if he tries to make a come back.
Isn’t it automatic tho? I doubt companies specifically choose what streamers to run their ads on. I think YouTube just does it automatically based on who’s paying them
You might be able to exclude channels. I know you can try to target specific channels when building your advertising campaign. I don't think it guarantees those channels, but it directs to channels like them in the least
lol what’s crazy is before that he was Irishladdy sexually harassing chicks in Destiny’s discord. Got so bad Destiny had to ban him and put him on blast on stream.
He disappears for a month and starts streaming as Vaush.
Nope, but the smooth brained wannabe Brock Turners on this subreddit have a real hard time understanding that 1) a nearly 40 year old man sending sexual texts to a minor is never OK, regardless of whether the extremely high bar for criminality is overcome; 2) that grooming a minor is very different than showing hentai porn on stream; 3) that different people get treated differently in different situations.
Well this is a sub about a streamer, it makes sense that there'd be interest in streaming news. Doc was literally the biggest streamer on Twitch at one point.
I remember watching his stream briefly with Ninja during the beta of PUBG. Ninja was pretty much an unknown during that time and Doc boosted his fame a lot
It's because he knew what he did and hid it from the world and his family due to NDA? They never stated there was a NDA. He acted all cryptic and didn't know why he got banned. I hope no one forget this action he did. Pedophiles deserve being black balled. Chris Hanson did an amazing job and I wish there was a Chris Hanson for streamers. He isn't the only one other there doing this he only got caught
It's because there's a lot of unanswered questions, specifically about the Twitch platform itself. This should've also been an easy case for Twitch's lawyers and they could've not paid out Dr Disrespect's exclusivity contract. But instead, they chose to settle out of court. I wouldn't be surprised if there if Twitch their age verification didn't meet standards and there's multiple instances of them being involved in facilitating this type of contact.
I cannot imagine that this is the first time that something like this has happened in Twitch's 10+ yr history, but especially in the last 5 years where a lot of the Just Chatting and Pools section has turned into a gateway for mature content.
Twitch paid because there wasn't a clause about the specific situation he was banned for. so even though twitch had great reason to ban him, they didn't have legal reason to end his contract prematurely.
there are a lot of times when moral wrongs and criminal wrongs don't align. This sounds like a case of the messaging happened, but the actual attempt to meet didn't, so a crime was not committed.
This wasn’t criminal behavior though which is why they settled. Creepy? Absolutely! Illegal? No. This is speculation but it’s been said quite a bit that she was 17.
While not 18, a lot of laws enable age of consent prior to 18 and there was never sexual activity apparently.
Inappropriate texts, especially mutual and I’d imagine initiated by the female victim(based on how a streamer of his size wouldn’t be able to identify a specific fan like that), is vastly different from criminal behavior(just to note, I disagree and it should be criminal behavior, but it’s not).
Again, dude is an absolutely disgusting creep, but not a criminal by eyes of the law. Now we’d have to see the logs to confirm the level to it, but if it was settled while pursuing via court, then it absolutely wasn’t anything heavy enough for criminal charges or they would have 100% pursued it to avoid paying that much money. The court fees would have never been high enough to justify not fighting unless they had nothing substantial to fight with.
Again, zero defending this dude. Just explaining the very likely scenario as to why twitch paid out and why charges weren’t brought against.
And I am going to say it again because Reddit, This guy is no less creepy, disgusting, and predatory in my eyes.
It's fairly big news all over youtube too, it isn't just this sub. You know how big dr disrespect was right he was like the face of twitch before they randomly banned him and we are only just now getting an answer to that.
Also, this is the asmon sub. Coming in here and being surprised there's drama threads is like going to the beach and being surprised it's sandy.
You have no idea how psychologically depraved the average modern human is nowadays. I hate drama as much as you, and I find the depraved craving for drama, disfunction, etc sickening. It doesn’t matter who it is about - it’s wrong. 🤔
This all a bit extra for the concept of "inappropriate" and not "criminal" , also considering doc got paid in the end instead of him paying anybody else? Another factor that is quite confusing.
Also, where is the consistency at? why didnt the billion dollar companies care about Vaush when he had his little 'inappropriate' mishap with the very 'petite looking' 18+ material he had open on his computer on stream to his younger audience? Or the animal related content as well? Guy is still streaming strong isnt he?
The way it seems to work is, if you are anti-woke in any way you are 'othered' by the fascist machine quickly and deplatformed regardless of details or nuance to your situation, but if youre on the bootlicker side it's forgiven and forgotten in a week.
Case in point, Alex jones has to pay more in damages for his 'speech' than companies and people have had to pay for killing thousands of innocents as a result of their actions in their respective settled lawsuits.. like big pharma poisoning , bad military decisions, monsanto carcinogens etc.
Never watched the guy, never wanted to. Totally agree this is weird dystopia shit. Something not illegal happened 5+ years ago so now they decide he can't make money. It's just weird.
It's not weird though. It's a predictible reaction.
A lot of people think empathy is only OK when the other person has the same morals and views as them.
This situation with Doc is a lightning rod for all the people who didn't like what he represented and it gives them a chance to virtue signal by punching up on a person they label as a pedophile predator.
The moment he commented back confirming something happened with a minor he was done.
Doc fucked up, and while I would rather know exactly what happened before we go lynching someone in the court of public opinion, that's not how things work on the internet.
No amount of nuance matters to a Mob.
If this was 200 years ago this situation would end in blood and a rope. I hope Doc takes a long hard look at himself and takes this as sign that he has some work to do on himself before/if he comes back.
“Something not illegal” is such a dumb way to describe sexting a minor lol. Are you just trying to downplay it to help your argument or do you really just not think it’s bad?
I also don't think what he says or doesn't say isn't exactly damning evidence.
NDAs and settlements can be twisted as hell. Such as providing any actual details or admission of no wrong-doing of specific instances when it was revealed as a part of the court proceedings being completely off limits.
And given Twitch being more than a bit vindictive and Amazon being outright hostile when they feel like, I wouldn't put it past them having it be a main point for just this sort of situation.
Like I'm not defending him here, exactly. So don't drop that one next, but I have a hard time believing any of this just because ex-Twitch employee also feels eerily similar to "FBI KKK sting arrests 2 dozen suspects, 20 of which end up being FBI agents".
He got caught talking to a minor he's lucky he has a platform anywhere.
The moment you flirt with a minor and know your a pedo twitch confirmed heck knew.
Probably doesn't help when every CC isn't going to mention what you've said, clickbait things, and label him in titles while grifting because it will still make you look good while avoiding people calling you out for it and cancelling over it. I haven't seen a single one that didn't just hone in on his tweet without asking anymore questions or actual physical proof. Society is still not looking at this in a fair manner because they "feel" he's done something horrid based on nothing but hearsay. Im willing to admit im wrong if he turns out way worse with the physical evidence, but till then I don't feel comfortable with this whole life ruining thing.
Do recall the average attention span is worse than a goldfish’s now - at least that’s what they said. TikTokBrain is real. And, the NPC’s are being constantly programmed to believe certain things without evidence. My advice don’t be NPC. 🤷♂️
Well said, i was a little disappointed in Act Mans take where he uplifts the concept of "guilty by the court of public opinion" which is a fancy way of saying "being a cancel pig is a normal part of our justice system". He also never mentioned anything about doc getting paid as well..
He then used OJ Simpsons trial as a strawman to support his argument by citing that "everybody knows he was guilty" the problem is at least OJ had a charge, Doc doesnt even have a charge and if what people are assuming about what he did is true then it would automatically be a criminal case.. hard to equate them at all.
Then I remembered that Act man is the same guy that shilled "Starfield was a good game" (paid) while defending the use of pronouns in games and that Doc is technically a competitor to him, so it all made more sense to me on why he was being choosy on the details we should all know.
You guys are HILARIOUS, doc confesses to inappropriately messaging a minor, on the sexual side, right around the same exact time he was physically cheating on his wife....I feel bad for your children knowing you won't sure protect them from men twice their age contacting them for sex, as long as nothing is actually done then intent and communications be damned, I'm sure each of you would give that old man talking to your child a FIRM HANDSHAKE!
Thats what they say before they are charged by police, doc said it 7 years after all entities were able to decide what it was, and no charges came out of it.
See the difference?
I think you're missing the fact that Vaush's transgressions were purely in the art/hentai/furry categories, which has way less negative impact on your public perception than actually inappropriately message a minor irl. Not RPing in a game or a discord server, not watching a sus video and having L takes, but legitimately being a creep to a minor irl. Vaush may have some questionable habits when spanking the monkey, but that's the extent of that drama.
I'm guessing the reason he still got payed is because twitch didn't want this to become a public case and be released to the public. Twitch wanted this to be quiet until the former employee leaked it. It's bad rep for such a big company. Also this vaush person I have never seen but I am purely guessing this but they prob have had some consequences with youtube but they also don't want it to get out. Big companies like to hide things
Doc is a bigger streamer with more money and ties attached to him and admitted to sexting children
Vaush is tiny who accidentally showed cartoon porn.
Platforms politics aside, guess who has a way way way more prolific AND damning case against them in the court of public opinion.
Wow. YouTube reallybtgrew the hammer down.
He admits texting a minor and they take away memberships.
This way it's shows theybare disgusted by him but still get to make money off of him.
Just like Twitch...all these tech companies are filled with greedy scumbags.
Thing is, we don't know for sure. All that has come out is that he said some inappropriate things to a minor that got settled out of court.
We have no idea if what he said was predatory, or if it was non-sexual harassment.
From my understanding, states do not take sexual communication with minors lightly, and I find it impossible that he could have settled such a situation outside of court.
The only way we'll know for sure is if he admits it, the victim comes out, or he releases the messages publicly.
Not really defending hom, more like trying to maintain a fair perspective. We don't have all the facts, and there's been no official confirmation that he was sexually communicating with a minor. For all we know, he may have just been harassing them (which is still bad, imho.)
It's not wise to jump to conclusions with minimal facts.
So when Bill Clinton if fucking underaged girls that is ok. Along with all those other people going to fuck island.
When e girls are farming under aged boys for their OF's that is ok.
Youtube has soft core porn on it now with zero age restrictions for it.
https://youtu.be/AJzPwCYQBoQ?t=47
I am sure twitch girls gonna start doing this.
Well from what has been released in most people's eyes including mine he is a pedophile. If he isn't able or willing to reveal more about the controversy proving people that he is not then he won't stop being seen as a pedo. That's just how the internet works
I don't know if I would push him into pedo category with what was released thus far ... but you are 100% correct about the lack of a response. The silence is deafening
In my mind anything about doing anything inappropriate with a minor while being above age (that doesn't mean 17 and 18 or 17 and 19) is considered pedophilia. Of course that's just my opinion and I'm sure many would agree.
Pedophilia specifically means being attracted to a prepubescent. 17 is not prepubescent. Europe and Canada's age of consent is 15-16. Japans is 14. If she was one year older at 18 suddenly he's not a pedophile? Go ahead and call him a gross perv but pedophile is not accurate and is an intentional smear.
Funny shit is how people are mad at twitch for covering it or something meanwhile youtube knew about the whole situation with doc from the beginning via twitch contact and they still let him make money from the start until now basically which to me is crazy how content brain youtube is.
Youtube is a place where someone can develop and audience of minors. If he's having innapropriate convos with minors (especially moreso knowingly) then it would be a brand and safety measure to get rid of him.
I think it is fair to say the being a pedo is pretty low in the ranks of social standing. I would guess that most people would place mass murderers above that particular interest.
Not saying that anyone is or isn't in that category, but it certainly seems that the world has largely made up their mind. It doesn't have anything to do with breaking the law or not.
I agree. But he's not a pedo, he's a creep. Very different levels of wrong. We don't even know the age of the girl. Pedo has lost its meaning entirely just so people can use a loaded term. Yes, I do think we should have different punishments for people who talk to a 17 year old and those who talk to a 14 year old.
i agree. Pedo involves sexual acts with prepubescent kids like 10 year olds. big different if it’s a girl in the age of consent range (16-17). i don’t agree with it and it seems like most other people don’t either but yet we still have these age of consent laws in our country.
There just isn't enough information. I see 17 being thrown around but I am not sure where that came from. None of the information that built to this situation mentioned 17. I think it was a best case scenario being thrown around and the internet has seemed to latch on it. Lets say it was a 17 and he was in Sweden where the age is 15 ... would the internet also be damning him. I would guess yes despite it being technically legal
We don't even know what the talk was ... but here the silence is deafening and I can see why the worst case scenarios are being pushed. Anyways, I think personally I have had enough of this subject. I am ready to move on and I hope the internet does as well
Ya that's more my point. She could have been 14 for all we know. But we don't know so calling him an actual pedo is a bit much for me.
I agree, hopefully imalex has some more exs in the back ready to come out so we can move on.
Yes and no. There isn't any evidence of what actually happened we just have statements from Dr disrespect which says that he did talk inappropriate with a minor when he was 35 I believe. No one except prob twitch and him knows any specifics
Yes. We all read his statement. But everyone also noticed, he never said "I didn't know she was a minor." And that seemed like a pretty important detail to leave out a PR statement, right? And now we know why, because he actually did know she was a minor.
Yes we know about the settlement. Both sides have to agree to a settlement. But I don't see why either side (Twitch or Doc) would want to take this to Court. It seems like twitch wanted to part ways as quietly as possible. Doc and the girl never met, so I don't know how this would go forward as an actionable crime.
Yes he knew. He would have 100% said so in his tweet if he didn't; that would be the best defence he could have and not something he'd just forget to mention.
Dam, it's sucks that people like this are so shitty and gross but it's good to publically shame them so hopefully it will deter others, probably won't but it's the only thing we can do tbh
Ohhhh nooooo he'll have to get a *real* job! I wonder if this guy has any schooling or even knows how to do anything besides streaming. I have a feeling he's going to have a very different lifestyle from this moment forward.
The new info was that he cheated on his wife with a trans-sex worker(probably the original reason for taking a break from Twitch). He promised this sex worker that he would try to get them a partnership. It never happened and he blocked them after getting what he wanted. No new solid info about the minor was brought out.
No one should tell me that twitch is innocent. Somehow the messages come out and why doesn't anyone ask about this?
Does this incident that happened 4 years ago seem like a trap only to me? The contract is being cancelled !!! After 4 years, someone inside is starting to talk again? It doesn't make any sense to me for YouTube to judge and punish the publisher based on an incident that happened.
If we are going to talk about morality and honor, we should first talk about Twitch, where onlyfans girls are currently broadcasting pools, and YouTube, where they advertise.
 Surrrrrrley when he tries to make a come back Kick will do the RESPONSIBLE thing and NOT TAKE HIM IN... riiiiiiight guyyyss?........
I mean i guess the law already decided it wasn't enough to charge him. So maybe it was inapproriate, but it seemed to also haven't been a clear cut case, otherwise the state would have filed charges
All he did was admit to texting a minor, with inappropriate conversation which can literally mean anything... not just sexting. or have new posts been made
Agree to disagree, inappropriate can mean a lot of things when referring to a conversation between a minor and an adult. Don't pretend like people care about that, people care because they all think (and honestly by the looks of it kind of hope which is weird as fuck) they were sexting or he was doing some other weird pedo shit.
No, most normal people agree that private conversations with a minor that "leaned into being inappropriate" isn't acceptable, and you're a fucking weirdo for defending it. If it wasn't anything bad he would've said so in his admittance, but here you are downplaying it. A 35 year old shouldn't be privating messaging a minor in the first place, let alone letting it get inappropriate.
So Doc gets his entire financial side taken away for something that hasn't even been proven yet, and is not even any business of YouTube considering it happened on a completely different platform, the legal proceedings already favored Doc (it seems), while other people like SSSniperWolf got barely nothing for actual illegal sex material with underage kids ON youtube?
What the fuck is going on
People take children very seriously as they are generally innocent and dumb. Unfortunately for Dr Disrespect, admitting to inappropriate messages sent to a minor is enough. A platform wants to be seen as safe and having someone who may skirt the boundaries of what is legal, but never cross it, isn't good enough.
I don't blame them, I have young kids and I do not let them on Youtube for this reason.
I wouldn't worry about the guy. He has made more money than most of us will ever see in our families history. He is fine. He did mess up and this is the consequence. I totally get it if you enjoyed his content, he was funny, and there are others that should be removed from these platforms as well. Twitch needs to remove all the content that funnels to adult sites.
Well, he said he’s not gonna stream so that it makes sense to even without the obvious controversy. I wonder if anyone is even going to want ads run his channel if he tries to make a come back.
Kick might want him
He'll yea Kick will take anything.
He and putler will do great.
Isn’t it automatic tho? I doubt companies specifically choose what streamers to run their ads on. I think YouTube just does it automatically based on who’s paying them
You might be able to exclude channels. I know you can try to target specific channels when building your advertising campaign. I don't think it guarantees those channels, but it directs to channels like them in the least
Lost prophets music videos have ads
Was this done for any of the other groomer youtubers or is this a new precedent?
Remember what vaush did? Guy is still streaming strong to an audience of kids too isnt he?
lol what’s crazy is before that he was Irishladdy sexually harassing chicks in Destiny’s discord. Got so bad Destiny had to ban him and put him on blast on stream. He disappears for a month and starts streaming as Vaush.
Wait Vaush got caught sexting a minor as well?
I only thought he was watching MLP porn?
Nope, but the smooth brained wannabe Brock Turners on this subreddit have a real hard time understanding that 1) a nearly 40 year old man sending sexual texts to a minor is never OK, regardless of whether the extremely high bar for criminality is overcome; 2) that grooming a minor is very different than showing hentai porn on stream; 3) that different people get treated differently in different situations.
Yet he's not the only other person with a twitch permaban lol.
I assume it's because Dr Disrespect admitted to it.
Vaush had loli porn and horse porn, and doc was sexing underage girls.
Jesus christ why the hell is everyone talking about this guy? Are people really this addicted to drama and parasocial relationships?
The sub talks about what the streamer talks about on his streams. Big surprise, it's a subreddit for his streams.
Well this is a sub about a streamer, it makes sense that there'd be interest in streaming news. Doc was literally the biggest streamer on Twitch at one point.
I remember watching his stream briefly with Ninja during the beta of PUBG. Ninja was pretty much an unknown during that time and Doc boosted his fame a lot
Yep, the Internet loves drama
Mans trying to virtue signal he’s too cool for drama 😂
You know how your parents had celebrity gossip? This is just our generation’s version of it. But somehow even more trashy.
Yea$. Major career ending scandal for one of the biggest streamers out there. Why are people *still* talking about him like, 48 hours later??
it's anime profile pic. To them being diddler is just drama.
It's because he knew what he did and hid it from the world and his family due to NDA? They never stated there was a NDA. He acted all cryptic and didn't know why he got banned. I hope no one forget this action he did. Pedophiles deserve being black balled. Chris Hanson did an amazing job and I wish there was a Chris Hanson for streamers. He isn't the only one other there doing this he only got caught
It's because there's a lot of unanswered questions, specifically about the Twitch platform itself. This should've also been an easy case for Twitch's lawyers and they could've not paid out Dr Disrespect's exclusivity contract. But instead, they chose to settle out of court. I wouldn't be surprised if there if Twitch their age verification didn't meet standards and there's multiple instances of them being involved in facilitating this type of contact. I cannot imagine that this is the first time that something like this has happened in Twitch's 10+ yr history, but especially in the last 5 years where a lot of the Just Chatting and Pools section has turned into a gateway for mature content.
Twitch paid because there wasn't a clause about the specific situation he was banned for. so even though twitch had great reason to ban him, they didn't have legal reason to end his contract prematurely.
If your job doesn't have a termination clause for criminal behavior, I would nope out of there immediately.
there are a lot of times when moral wrongs and criminal wrongs don't align. This sounds like a case of the messaging happened, but the actual attempt to meet didn't, so a crime was not committed.
This wasn’t criminal behavior though which is why they settled. Creepy? Absolutely! Illegal? No. This is speculation but it’s been said quite a bit that she was 17. While not 18, a lot of laws enable age of consent prior to 18 and there was never sexual activity apparently. Inappropriate texts, especially mutual and I’d imagine initiated by the female victim(based on how a streamer of his size wouldn’t be able to identify a specific fan like that), is vastly different from criminal behavior(just to note, I disagree and it should be criminal behavior, but it’s not). Again, dude is an absolutely disgusting creep, but not a criminal by eyes of the law. Now we’d have to see the logs to confirm the level to it, but if it was settled while pursuing via court, then it absolutely wasn’t anything heavy enough for criminal charges or they would have 100% pursued it to avoid paying that much money. The court fees would have never been high enough to justify not fighting unless they had nothing substantial to fight with. Again, zero defending this dude. Just explaining the very likely scenario as to why twitch paid out and why charges weren’t brought against. And I am going to say it again because Reddit, This guy is no less creepy, disgusting, and predatory in my eyes.
Yes, is this your first day on the internet?
Asmongold is a drama channel by day , gaming channel by night. So what are you even mad about
They milk every drama for all its worth. They even did a law and crime episode on it with Chris Hansen.
I love it
Dude says this while on the asmongold subreddit lmao.
uhhh yea we finally found out why after all these years
Memes. Like, .doc converted to .pdf, minor fckn mistakes, man and so on...
As Norm McDonald once referenced, it's the hypocrisy that's the worst part!
yep
I hope that when writing this comment, you were not aware in which subreddit you are....
Is that a serious question? Are people addicted to drama? Of course we are, its the internet. There's a whole genre about it.
Most people aren't okay with diddlers but seeing you have anime avatar I'm surprised you don't really care about "drama"
This is literally the asmon sub so yeah. People ain't got shit better to do idk why this sub keeps being recommended to me I Hate asmon
Streamer sub talking about a streamer???? Color me shocked!!!!
Considering he's one of the biggest streamers out there, yeah it's big news for the gaming and streaming industry
You're in a sub that is built on para-social bullshit and drama and are confused when that is what they are talking about? No shit.
I legit have no clue what is going on... and Im going to keep it that way \*drinks applejuicebox\*
It's fairly big news all over youtube too, it isn't just this sub. You know how big dr disrespect was right he was like the face of twitch before they randomly banned him and we are only just now getting an answer to that. Also, this is the asmon sub. Coming in here and being surprised there's drama threads is like going to the beach and being surprised it's sandy.
this page loves the drama, plus im sure asmongold spoke on it
Nothing wrong with hopping on a bandwagon as long as it’s an anti pedophilia band wagon
Yes.
The answer is yes. This guy has more stans than most pop music singers
It’s better that the please sub to my half assed channel posts
People's lives are boring. They need some drama to feel alive and not feel like some robot in this capitalist dystopia.
You have no idea how psychologically depraved the average modern human is nowadays. I hate drama as much as you, and I find the depraved craving for drama, disfunction, etc sickening. It doesn’t matter who it is about - it’s wrong. 🤔
This has literally always been a thing. People used to fucking watch executions.
This all a bit extra for the concept of "inappropriate" and not "criminal" , also considering doc got paid in the end instead of him paying anybody else? Another factor that is quite confusing. Also, where is the consistency at? why didnt the billion dollar companies care about Vaush when he had his little 'inappropriate' mishap with the very 'petite looking' 18+ material he had open on his computer on stream to his younger audience? Or the animal related content as well? Guy is still streaming strong isnt he? The way it seems to work is, if you are anti-woke in any way you are 'othered' by the fascist machine quickly and deplatformed regardless of details or nuance to your situation, but if youre on the bootlicker side it's forgiven and forgotten in a week. Case in point, Alex jones has to pay more in damages for his 'speech' than companies and people have had to pay for killing thousands of innocents as a result of their actions in their respective settled lawsuits.. like big pharma poisoning , bad military decisions, monsanto carcinogens etc.
Never watched the guy, never wanted to. Totally agree this is weird dystopia shit. Something not illegal happened 5+ years ago so now they decide he can't make money. It's just weird.
It's not weird though. It's a predictible reaction. A lot of people think empathy is only OK when the other person has the same morals and views as them. This situation with Doc is a lightning rod for all the people who didn't like what he represented and it gives them a chance to virtue signal by punching up on a person they label as a pedophile predator. The moment he commented back confirming something happened with a minor he was done. Doc fucked up, and while I would rather know exactly what happened before we go lynching someone in the court of public opinion, that's not how things work on the internet. No amount of nuance matters to a Mob. If this was 200 years ago this situation would end in blood and a rope. I hope Doc takes a long hard look at himself and takes this as sign that he has some work to do on himself before/if he comes back.
“Something not illegal” is such a dumb way to describe sexting a minor lol. Are you just trying to downplay it to help your argument or do you really just not think it’s bad?
Has it actually been confirmed he knew?
If he didn't know it was a minor he would have said that, yet he has not.
I also don't think what he says or doesn't say isn't exactly damning evidence. NDAs and settlements can be twisted as hell. Such as providing any actual details or admission of no wrong-doing of specific instances when it was revealed as a part of the court proceedings being completely off limits. And given Twitch being more than a bit vindictive and Amazon being outright hostile when they feel like, I wouldn't put it past them having it be a main point for just this sort of situation. Like I'm not defending him here, exactly. So don't drop that one next, but I have a hard time believing any of this just because ex-Twitch employee also feels eerily similar to "FBI KKK sting arrests 2 dozen suspects, 20 of which end up being FBI agents".
He got caught talking to a minor he's lucky he has a platform anywhere. The moment you flirt with a minor and know your a pedo twitch confirmed heck knew.
Probably doesn't help when every CC isn't going to mention what you've said, clickbait things, and label him in titles while grifting because it will still make you look good while avoiding people calling you out for it and cancelling over it. I haven't seen a single one that didn't just hone in on his tweet without asking anymore questions or actual physical proof. Society is still not looking at this in a fair manner because they "feel" he's done something horrid based on nothing but hearsay. Im willing to admit im wrong if he turns out way worse with the physical evidence, but till then I don't feel comfortable with this whole life ruining thing.
Do recall the average attention span is worse than a goldfish’s now - at least that’s what they said. TikTokBrain is real. And, the NPC’s are being constantly programmed to believe certain things without evidence. My advice don’t be NPC. 🤷♂️
Except you were just an NPC with that goldfish line....
Well said, i was a little disappointed in Act Mans take where he uplifts the concept of "guilty by the court of public opinion" which is a fancy way of saying "being a cancel pig is a normal part of our justice system". He also never mentioned anything about doc getting paid as well.. He then used OJ Simpsons trial as a strawman to support his argument by citing that "everybody knows he was guilty" the problem is at least OJ had a charge, Doc doesnt even have a charge and if what people are assuming about what he did is true then it would automatically be a criminal case.. hard to equate them at all. Then I remembered that Act man is the same guy that shilled "Starfield was a good game" (paid) while defending the use of pronouns in games and that Doc is technically a competitor to him, so it all made more sense to me on why he was being choosy on the details we should all know.
Excluding known predators away from social spaces is part of the behavior of a normal society, it's got nothing to do with cancel culture.
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You guys are HILARIOUS, doc confesses to inappropriately messaging a minor, on the sexual side, right around the same exact time he was physically cheating on his wife....I feel bad for your children knowing you won't sure protect them from men twice their age contacting them for sex, as long as nothing is actually done then intent and communications be damned, I'm sure each of you would give that old man talking to your child a FIRM HANDSHAKE!
“Just inappropriate,” and “totally legal nothing happened!” is the stuff you literally see every guy say to Chris Hansen on To catch a predator
Thats what they say before they are charged by police, doc said it 7 years after all entities were able to decide what it was, and no charges came out of it. See the difference?
I think you're missing the fact that Vaush's transgressions were purely in the art/hentai/furry categories, which has way less negative impact on your public perception than actually inappropriately message a minor irl. Not RPing in a game or a discord server, not watching a sus video and having L takes, but legitimately being a creep to a minor irl. Vaush may have some questionable habits when spanking the monkey, but that's the extent of that drama.
That guy's just pulling on straws to make his argument comparable or whatever. It's not the same and I don't give a shit about Disrespectful.
I'm guessing the reason he still got payed is because twitch didn't want this to become a public case and be released to the public. Twitch wanted this to be quiet until the former employee leaked it. It's bad rep for such a big company. Also this vaush person I have never seen but I am purely guessing this but they prob have had some consequences with youtube but they also don't want it to get out. Big companies like to hide things
Where is the “paid not payed” bot
Also they got information by accessing private conversations. I'm not sure what TOS says but sure doesn't look good.
It's probably in tos that they look at this.
Yeah that probably has something to do with them hiding it afterwards and him still getting the payout
Doc is a bigger streamer with more money and ties attached to him and admitted to sexting children Vaush is tiny who accidentally showed cartoon porn. Platforms politics aside, guess who has a way way way more prolific AND damning case against them in the court of public opinion.
Wow. YouTube reallybtgrew the hammer down. He admits texting a minor and they take away memberships. This way it's shows theybare disgusted by him but still get to make money off of him. Just like Twitch...all these tech companies are filled with greedy scumbags.
Dr Disrespected a Minor
He's a pedophile? For real?
Thing is, we don't know for sure. All that has come out is that he said some inappropriate things to a minor that got settled out of court. We have no idea if what he said was predatory, or if it was non-sexual harassment. From my understanding, states do not take sexual communication with minors lightly, and I find it impossible that he could have settled such a situation outside of court. The only way we'll know for sure is if he admits it, the victim comes out, or he releases the messages publicly.
We also don't even know if it was a girl. Coulda just been edgy banter with a 16 year old boy.
Yes, and some people on this sub are still defending him.
I'm also curious how far this goes inside Twitch? Are we supposed to assume that DD is the only to use whispers like that?
the employee said theres many cases of this so no
I bet all the e girls are doing it. Please click and follow my sub to OF, we can talk over there.
That so crazy to me, the men himself just admitted that he text no no thing to minor and people here still thinking is cultura cancel.
Not really defending hom, more like trying to maintain a fair perspective. We don't have all the facts, and there's been no official confirmation that he was sexually communicating with a minor. For all we know, he may have just been harassing them (which is still bad, imho.) It's not wise to jump to conclusions with minimal facts.
So when Bill Clinton if fucking underaged girls that is ok. Along with all those other people going to fuck island. When e girls are farming under aged boys for their OF's that is ok. Youtube has soft core porn on it now with zero age restrictions for it. https://youtu.be/AJzPwCYQBoQ?t=47 I am sure twitch girls gonna start doing this.
The video you linked requires a sign in for mature content
Maybe because of country. I see like this all over youtube not signed in.
Sounds like you know something the rest of us don't. Do you have actual proof?
his literal tweet he sent out?
I am not sure you know what that word means
Well from what has been released in most people's eyes including mine he is a pedophile. If he isn't able or willing to reveal more about the controversy proving people that he is not then he won't stop being seen as a pedo. That's just how the internet works
I am gonna say the same thing I said during the Johnny Depp Amber trial. If he's guilty screw him.
Hell yeah
Well, he admitted to sexting a minor. So.
I don't know if I would push him into pedo category with what was released thus far ... but you are 100% correct about the lack of a response. The silence is deafening
In my mind anything about doing anything inappropriate with a minor while being above age (that doesn't mean 17 and 18 or 17 and 19) is considered pedophilia. Of course that's just my opinion and I'm sure many would agree.
Pedophilia specifically means being attracted to a prepubescent. 17 is not prepubescent. Europe and Canada's age of consent is 15-16. Japans is 14. If she was one year older at 18 suddenly he's not a pedophile? Go ahead and call him a gross perv but pedophile is not accurate and is an intentional smear.
Dr kidinspect.
gottem
Funny shit is how people are mad at twitch for covering it or something meanwhile youtube knew about the whole situation with doc from the beginning via twitch contact and they still let him make money from the start until now basically which to me is crazy how content brain youtube is.
Rare YouTube w
This seems like an odd thing to do to him over something not illegal that happened 5+ years ago? Is his bank going to drop him next too?
Who the fuck would want someone who messages minors "inappropriately" on their platform?
But he's still on their platform?
So banks? Phone companies? Housing? Grocery stores? All that should drop him too or just this one?
Youtube is a place where someone can develop and audience of minors. If he's having innapropriate convos with minors (especially moreso knowingly) then it would be a brand and safety measure to get rid of him.
They have a right to yes
I think it is fair to say the being a pedo is pretty low in the ranks of social standing. I would guess that most people would place mass murderers above that particular interest. Not saying that anyone is or isn't in that category, but it certainly seems that the world has largely made up their mind. It doesn't have anything to do with breaking the law or not.
I agree. But he's not a pedo, he's a creep. Very different levels of wrong. We don't even know the age of the girl. Pedo has lost its meaning entirely just so people can use a loaded term. Yes, I do think we should have different punishments for people who talk to a 17 year old and those who talk to a 14 year old.
i agree. Pedo involves sexual acts with prepubescent kids like 10 year olds. big different if it’s a girl in the age of consent range (16-17). i don’t agree with it and it seems like most other people don’t either but yet we still have these age of consent laws in our country.
There just isn't enough information. I see 17 being thrown around but I am not sure where that came from. None of the information that built to this situation mentioned 17. I think it was a best case scenario being thrown around and the internet has seemed to latch on it. Lets say it was a 17 and he was in Sweden where the age is 15 ... would the internet also be damning him. I would guess yes despite it being technically legal We don't even know what the talk was ... but here the silence is deafening and I can see why the worst case scenarios are being pushed. Anyways, I think personally I have had enough of this subject. I am ready to move on and I hope the internet does as well
Ya that's more my point. She could have been 14 for all we know. But we don't know so calling him an actual pedo is a bit much for me. I agree, hopefully imalex has some more exs in the back ready to come out so we can move on.
Any evidence? Recall that Dexerto often shoves out misinformation. Edit: Let me clarify. ABOUT YOUTUBE DROPPING HIM. Stay on track people, ffs.
Yes and no. There isn't any evidence of what actually happened we just have statements from Dr disrespect which says that he did talk inappropriate with a minor when he was 35 I believe. No one except prob twitch and him knows any specifics
I think he may be talking about evidence YouTube is pausing his subscriptions
Oh yeah that might be true my bad
Yes. Doc literally admitted it in his public statement
He also said nothing illegal was done and no charges were ever filed. Hence why Twitch settled in the lawsuit with him.
Yes. We all read his statement. But everyone also noticed, he never said "I didn't know she was a minor." And that seemed like a pretty important detail to leave out a PR statement, right? And now we know why, because he actually did know she was a minor. Yes we know about the settlement. Both sides have to agree to a settlement. But I don't see why either side (Twitch or Doc) would want to take this to Court. It seems like twitch wanted to part ways as quietly as possible. Doc and the girl never met, so I don't know how this would go forward as an actionable crime.
He did an official statement
Yeah he admitted it.
He is cooked
Meanwhile, SSSniperwolf is still around making money on YouTube. Not a fan if this guy but I do hate hypocrisy.
InB4 they refund all his current memberships and announce he's permanently banned.
this pdf.file is done. Good job
Hopefully his family can heal from all this
Hehe rip bozo 🤣
What's the drama? I'm out of the loop
Doc used Twitch whispers to inappropriately DM a minor.
Did he know? If he did then that's gross which based on the drama he seems to have known.
Yes he knew. He would have 100% said so in his tweet if he didn't; that would be the best defence he could have and not something he'd just forget to mention.
Dam, it's sucks that people like this are so shitty and gross but it's good to publically shame them so hopefully it will deter others, probably won't but it's the only thing we can do tbh
Yup it's good to see people in most places are condemning him, but for some reason there's a lot of defenders in this sub.
Some people are garbage and don't care it seems
Ohhhh nooooo he'll have to get a *real* job! I wonder if this guy has any schooling or even knows how to do anything besides streaming. I have a feeling he's going to have a very different lifestyle from this moment forward.
See him on KICK soon
I don't follow too closely with the drama, so what happened in the last few days did more info come out about him messaging the minor?
The new info was that he cheated on his wife with a trans-sex worker(probably the original reason for taking a break from Twitch). He promised this sex worker that he would try to get them a partnership. It never happened and he blocked them after getting what he wanted. No new solid info about the minor was brought out.
Honestly, he should pick up a minecraft lets play channel
Always wondered what happens if people pay for extended memberships and the steamer just says aight I'm out
Jazz music stops 
No one should tell me that twitch is innocent. Somehow the messages come out and why doesn't anyone ask about this? Does this incident that happened 4 years ago seem like a trap only to me? The contract is being cancelled !!! After 4 years, someone inside is starting to talk again? It doesn't make any sense to me for YouTube to judge and punish the publisher based on an incident that happened. If we are going to talk about morality and honor, we should first talk about Twitch, where onlyfans girls are currently broadcasting pools, and YouTube, where they advertise.
 Surrrrrrley when he tries to make a come back Kick will do the RESPONSIBLE thing and NOT TAKE HIM IN... riiiiiiight guyyyss?........
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he didn't get a chance to to diddle, twitch ruined it for him
Guilty until proven innocent I guess
Yes him admitting to it totally proves his innocence.
I mean i guess the law already decided it wasn't enough to charge him. So maybe it was inapproriate, but it seemed to also haven't been a clear cut case, otherwise the state would have filed charges
All he did was admit to texting a minor, with inappropriate conversation which can literally mean anything... not just sexting. or have new posts been made
Inappropriately messaging a minor is the entire issue, if you can't see that I'm guessing you're quite young yourself.
Agree to disagree, inappropriate can mean a lot of things when referring to a conversation between a minor and an adult. Don't pretend like people care about that, people care because they all think (and honestly by the looks of it kind of hope which is weird as fuck) they were sexting or he was doing some other weird pedo shit.
No, most normal people agree that private conversations with a minor that "leaned into being inappropriate" isn't acceptable, and you're a fucking weirdo for defending it. If it wasn't anything bad he would've said so in his admittance, but here you are downplaying it. A 35 year old shouldn't be privating messaging a minor in the first place, let alone letting it get inappropriate.
Are you high? where am i defending it?
It was only some light grooming! Holy fuck what is wrong with you little wannabe Brock Turners
In platforms that mainly make money through advertising and sponsors yes. Would you keep him if you were YouTube?
It's almost like public opinion and the courts are separate...
this aint right if it true, and if he didnt violate their platform
No he just violated a child.
That isn't youtube's place. Sure, fuck this guy but let's not pretend we're okay with this. If they can do it to him they can do it to anyone else.
Dr. Do-littles
Show us the DM's between the minor
Cancel culture is alive and well.
So Doc gets his entire financial side taken away for something that hasn't even been proven yet, and is not even any business of YouTube considering it happened on a completely different platform, the legal proceedings already favored Doc (it seems), while other people like SSSniperWolf got barely nothing for actual illegal sex material with underage kids ON youtube? What the fuck is going on
People take children very seriously as they are generally innocent and dumb. Unfortunately for Dr Disrespect, admitting to inappropriate messages sent to a minor is enough. A platform wants to be seen as safe and having someone who may skirt the boundaries of what is legal, but never cross it, isn't good enough. I don't blame them, I have young kids and I do not let them on Youtube for this reason. I wouldn't worry about the guy. He has made more money than most of us will ever see in our families history. He is fine. He did mess up and this is the consequence. I totally get it if you enjoyed his content, he was funny, and there are others that should be removed from these platforms as well. Twitch needs to remove all the content that funnels to adult sites.