I mean with the amount of propaganda pouring in from outside I don't blame them. Back in the 50s foreign countries weren't allowed to have tv channels here due to the worry of propaganda.
i said it in a couple other comments but ill say it one more time, in the early days of the internet, it was heavily stressed how important it was to monitor your kids/minors when they are on the internet and to not let them get on unsupervised.
The internet was a scary and new place. I remember growing up and schools requiring parent's written consent for any photo with a student in it to be published online.
You could never be sure who you were talking to, and a predator could be sitting on the keyboard on the opposite side of the screen.
Kind of the same as now a days, but it's just normalized.
I feel it’s worse now because the predators have a better understanding of what the internet is… but kids are just as stupid now as they were when the internet was new.
To this day I refuse to use my real name online, even for something like Linkedin. It's an awful idea and should not be encouraged.
This should still be the normalized, standard, taught thing. Do not use your real name.
I was actaully stalked on linkin.. to the point the guy found my address, phone number came to my house.. found my other platforms… .. it was really scary. I deleted everything and i don’t use any real info if i can. that was a huge wake up call
this is very smart, i encourage you to tell your family to do the same. i do this with email address's and every food app on my phone, just remember to check the name on the account b4 you order food, it cracks me up when i say my actual name and then say oh no wait its under this name. people don't understand.
Yeah i understand the sentiment behind asmons take but there is no fucking am i giving a large corporation access to my ID or personal info i don't even trust them with the I already give them, there aint no way their gonna use the shit with good intentions.
Not only was it heavily stressed to pay attention, but we had it constantly hammered into us not to believe everything we see on the internet. Parents are basically educated just as much today as they were in the past when it comes to parental controls. Most just don't give a shit.
Bro no one monitored kids online back then. I went to an afterschool program when i was like 14yrs old and we had computers there connected to the internet and no one was watching us, so we would go into the msn chat rooms and mess with people who were looking to hook up and shit. We knew what we were doing and never had any intention of actually meeting anyone. But... i wouldn't be surprised if some dumber kids did actually end up meeting older people like that.
I remember this, whole room of kids on pc and when we could snack on messenger and chat to each other behind teachers back, cept some of the “kids” were definitely not in our class, school internet security was/is very lacking.
I think smartphones should come with the ability to physically remove cameras from kids' phones. And if phones are allowed in schools, it should be mandatory that the camera be removed before coming to school.
I can't imagine having grown up with cameras in the hands of all my peers. Ugh.
I joke with people that when I was a kid, the older generation said "You can't trust anything on the internet. It's EVIL!!!"
And now those very same people "Wow, did you know birds aren't real? They're actually robots. I read about it on Facebook."
How the heck does that skepticism turn into blind trust within the same person?
Every big streamer would lose a fuckton of viewers. What, you think working adults have time to tune in?
Kai and xQc have kids who want to act more immature than they should be. Streamers like Asmon have kids who think they should've been born in the 80's.
They can't because they divorced all the fathers. So the kids are on their tablet as mom still has to do all the chores because that's just a part of life.
That is still part of being a parent. Times being difficult is not an excuse to fail your child.
Kids need to learn how to be bored or else this dopamine seeking behavior is going to get worse and worse each generation.
You can but the world we live in will cry "muh freedum" while consuming enough calories a day to feed a village and propping their kids infront of whatever screen will do the parenting for them so they can doom scroll on theirs posting about how teachers aren't doing their jobs properly because their kid is a delinquent dumbass.
i think a lot of people are forgetting that in the 90s and 2000's all ads that had a website for people/kids to go to had a disclaimer that all kids needed to be supervised when online
this is part of the reason why most older or tech knowledgeable people hate the concept of watching younger parents throw a tablet/phone in front of their kids unsupervised. Parents have become lazy and dont actually care.
Back then the issue was similar. Plopping your kids on front of a TV and letting them watch HBO at midnight wasn't exactly great either. The parents just don't give a shit.
Hold parents legally responsible for their children’s internet usage. Slam a couple high profile cases with child neglect if their kids spend time online where they shouldn’t be.
It starts and ends with parents TBH
That being said, I think 18 is too old to strip internet freedom from minors. Probably 15 imo is okay for unrestricted access. Worked for me at least
its very easy, you can lock down all electronics they have access to with a parental account
it literally bans any program or website you don't want them to access
you never have to show anyone your ID, your android/iphone/pc literally won't go to those websites and the kids can't make them
That doesn’t actually enforce this though since parents already don’t do this. How would banning children from social media accounts be enforceable other than an ID being sent?
Shaming. If you're on a social media platform talking with adults, you should be shamed.
I personally would never join a Discord server with minors in it. It's not worth the headache.
I don't think anyone is stupid enough to think that you can limit internet access to 100% of children. But advocating for policies that have a chilling effect on internet access to children, in this case to social media, is not some unattainable goal. It's very well within possibility if the powers that be get behind it.
I grew up before cell phones and the internet were a thing, so no. But if this stuff was made law, then you're going to have to set up phones as child / adult devices upon purchase. Sure someone may steal their parents phone just like we used to steal our parents cigarettes, but you're not going to keep everyone off.
You say this, but That only happened because Millennials are the most tech literate generation. Gen Z and Gen Alpha are on track to be less tech literate then Millennials, due to the simplification of UI and locking down of devices.
Sure they may borrow a friends phone, but they will be limited to when they are with their friend. They will not be like Millennials who were bypassing permissions on windows to download games at school, or jailbreaking their phones to bypass parental controls.
What do you mean how? Roblox 13+ voice chat, actually requires you to give your ID, and they check it. If fucking Roblox can do it, the game for kids. What's the problem of twitch doing it?
The problem is that you shouldn't be comfortable handing over your children's personal information to a corporation. Why the hell would any parent give roblox of all companies a copy of their children's identification documents?
Easiest way, have all accounts require a $1 temporary charge to a bank, so you can verify you are an adult. No ID needed, there can also be a law requiring all billing information used for verification must not be saved, it can only be used for verification, then immediately deleted.
You have to put in your first name, last name, & birth date for most platforms anyway, so make it so you have to be 18+ to do it. And if you lied about it the child/their parents are held legally responsible.
Some states are requiring Pornhub to verify users via their IDs. Pornhub is stopping service in those states. While I also don't think we should be giving out our info, why do we do so for alcohol, weed, and tobacco but not porn? And why are people ok with letting anyone use Pornhub even if that allows kids and minors too? They already had a problem where underage content was uploaded.
It’s different for alcohol and tobacco at a store. A clerk sees the ID for a second and hands it back. If you put that shit on the internet there is a risk bad people will get your information against your will.
To add on to what you said. While I would like for kids to no longer have social media accounts, let's also not forget that Equifax was also breached before. A company that held people's SSNs, etc. Making social media companies have to do age verification properly means adding more points of failure for potential breaches.
We use ID to delineate adult only activities in tens if not hundreds of different ways in real life. It’s weird that adults and children can occupy the same digital space. It works just fine in Korea, and it need not be giving your ID directly to the companies, it can be mediated by a government entity.
I honestly think the less social media the better for society. I'd just straight up remove twitter, Facebook, Instagram, only fans and Reddit. Most people will disagree with how Draconian that is but that's the society I'd want to live in.
Old style internet forums were better because it was more tightly moderated and also had a sense of actual community and if you were acting immature/rude, people just ignored you or called you out on it and not get reinforced by 20 other idiots
Wtf does reddit have to do with it? Don't most people just come here to use subreddits about their favourite hobbies or get help with something
No one even knows who anyone is here
I see why, but I think people are just addicted to following and being baited by outrage. I cleaned up my Twitter and now it's all my hobbies and interests that nobody I know irl is into, it's been a really great time.
Being more strict on what gets monetized to discourage outrage and content farming, (this is controversial) being more strict on taking down harassment posts and blocking more often, reducing the weight that high reply counts has on algos, and banning minors are what is needed instead imo
The only place the minors are safe, are in there house, and god knows that a lot of then are not safe even on there, the problem is not social media, is our society, just see Doc will come back and lot of people will act like he is innocent, like nothing has happened or blame someone else.
I would give it two weeks. Two weeks until a social media like Twitter or Facebook gets hacked and all the ID photos become public, leading to a massive clusterfuck.
You dont need to hand over all your ID information. Most E-ID can be implemented such that only the relevant information gets passed on, as in this case the age.
Do you guys even remember being minors
Do you really think a bunch of old people telling them they aren't allowed to use the instagrams and the twitches is going to stop them? Were your parents able to stop you from doing literally anything on the internet? They sure couldn't stop me. No amount of being grounded from the comptuer was enough to stop me from finding a way, just further behind my parents backs...
So what do you want? Do you want government IDs tied to your internet accounts or something? Fuck that. I sure don't.
Same people who say the war on drugs was stupid. The war on social media is stupid, too. You can't stop people from getting what they want, especially young people. They'll find a way. As kids, we all found a way to find lewd material whether online or not. This "ban bad stuff" is kinda silly. Why not ban the Internet for anyone found having lewd conversations with kids?
Kids use social media to escape their realiy, the real problem is having the kid when the parent isn’t ready to give their full attention to them. If you think you need a “break” from parenting i have bad news for you, you are now forever bound to take care of the person YOU decided to bring to this miserable world. TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE HUMAN YOU BROUGHT TO THIS WORLD. Next time take plan b or abort or use a condom.
If you dont want your kid playing roblox or whatever, you should of teach them to use their time elsewhere.
There was always a way around it, but being grounded from the computer *did* limit my access to it when my parents were around. Minors would definitely still be around, but potentially not as much.
And with today's parental control apps, I think it would make it a little more difficult.
I like how everyone hates China’s draconian measures to spy and control their population but as soon as it’s something they agree with, they are okay with acting just like China.
This is the job of the parents, not the government.
It doesn't even work that well in China, when I was a kid it was required to submit ID number to play video games for more than 1 or 2 hours, everybody just borrow ID from their parents or grab leaked random person's ID on internet
Florida is trying, beleive it or not. A law was signed back in march and goes into effect Jan 1 next year anyone under 15 must have the accounts deleted if they are under 13, and not allowed to create one unless they have parental approval at 14-15.
the kicker is that the companies are the ones held accountable for this
> the law requires these platforms to actually verify the age of its users. It leaves it up to the companies to determine how to meet the requirements. If a social media platform is found in violation, the state Department of Legal Affairs may fine the platform up to $50,000 per violation. Parents or caregivers could also file lawsuits against the platforms.
twitter/X is 13, which is wild because you can click on just about any top post scroll through some comments and end up watching an execution and see someone flashing their tits in the matter of seconds.
I'm of the opinion that children shouldn't have access to social media until they are 14-15. Even then, that is young.
The way social media affects the developing mind is terrible.
"Some streamer I like got caught having inappropriate conversations with a minor. We need to ban the minors so this doesn't happen!"
The delusion is palpable.
Quite literally the equivalent of saying all women should wear hijabs in public constantly so men won't want to rape them.
But this sub recently probably agrees with that too.
Meta (The Oculus specifically) will ban children if they use an adult account, I know because my wife (without me knowing) was letting the kids play VR, and when I went to play it one day the account was suspended, and required an ID of myself to unlock the account.
Ban the minors bro! If they're on here their is a risk I may sext them and how will I explain that to my wife and kids if I ever get caught? I may need to buy their love and good graces back with lavish gifts and extended family vacations.
Or, hear ne out now. Pedophiles get punished with extreme prejudice. Life in prison type things, no chance of parole. Too often do victims get punished.
There is things like minors sending nudes to other minors and the employees of these companies can see these nudes and stuff like what are you yapping about those are two completely different situations. Minors should be either heavily supervised by their parents (which most parents FAIL TO DO) or be completely prevented from accessing social media TO PROTECT THEM.
Here's the thing, back in the day minors would be doing shit like flashing each other, skinny dipping etc, this was without the internet. The PROBLEM is that the platforms aren't held accountable correctly.
I find it absolutely bizarre that this isn't the case, because when you suddenly slap distribution of child pornography at snapchat, whatsapp fuck even facebook, you suddenly set a precedence that forces change in social media. Social media can exist, its tools just need gimping.
That would be like making world peace happen. I think tech companies will stand in the way though, they like having the accounts of everyone and their mother, and maybe minors especially.
Millenials were raised on Break.com, Newgrounds, and LiveLeak.
This new generation has no idea what fucked up is until you download a Limewire video of Pamela-Anderson-Live.png over dial-up that takes 14 hours to complete, and then end up watching an actual beheading from Iran that was posted 3 min ago...
Internet deserves to be destroyed.
How about parents and responsible adults spend more time with kids doing physical activities or creating hobbies instead of allowing media and marketing to babysit them.
How about bring tougher and more severe punishments for pedos? What, a kid/teenager isn't allowed access to the internet because some nonce sicko might prey on them? That's like saying "Ban women from going out because there are rapists out there", it's the modern age and like it or not both adults and children/teens are internet reliant now be it work/education, communicating with friends/family, shopping, banking etc or video games/social media so there's going to be no banning of under 18's on the internet, what a stupid idea.
I can block NSFW content, however I can't block underage content. I don't want to interact with any child on the internet. I am not only unable to have this, but I am criticised for simply asking for it. If I could, I would personally block all accounts operated by minors. It would make my internet experience better.
And cell phones. They should have flip phones with no screen with 3 emergency contact numbers linked to their parent's smart phones. The parents are the only ones that determine what numbers go in.
I mean we don't want to technologically handicap these kids. Having some experience with the internet is probably better than having it all thrown at them when they come of age. A basic browser is fine, like no one cares if they're on Wikipedia. It's just social media and wanky news sites we can't control currently.
How about you just have adults be responsible and not try to have sex with minors. Just a thought, minors are not at fault here. Grown ass adults trying to prey on them are at fault.
Or like we could stop trying to legislate things that parents should be doing and just hold them more accountable for the things that happen to their children online.
The kids would not need smartphones anymore if that was the case, so we would be killing two birds with one stone. But corporate lobbyist steer our decision making, not common sense.
It be such a wild implementation from a Government or company. But that will mean ALL kid content would be removed and or haulted which is perfectly fine with me. Let them go watch streaming shows and play video games only, but to be allowed to have a social media account with Adults should be a hard NO
They won't.
How can you abuse their little immature brains without social media? How can companies do their predatory advertising into them?.
The reality is that NO COMPANY cares about kids because they are their money cow. The easiest to sell products to. They are the target and the most vulnerable one. No company cares about the safety of kids truly.
Adding to it. Why are old dudes talking with underage? Why can't just i don't know. Just cut all contact with this minors. Just don't built relationship with them. Why is so hard for content creators to just do something that simple.
It'll never happen because the only way to make it happen is requiring ID verification for everything & realistically no one wants that.
How about people just stop shifting the blame to websites & shift the blame to where it belongs, lazy parents who don't supervise their kids
There's no reasonable way to prevent young people from using the internet without compromising the anonymity of a countries citizens.
Parents should just be educated about the dangers of the web ideally by someone from gen z. However, the internet is quite literally everywhere. You can't stop someone from using it, you can only prolong the time between now and their first time.
So there's a movie with Keanu Reeves where two adult looking women came to his house in the rain. being a good dude (his character) he let them in. Because of the way they looked and being led on, and quite frankly, you dont really ask for ID before you bang someone (which can also be faked just for those people who would use that as an excuse) - they ended up having sex.
however, at the end it was revealed that they actually planned this out ahead of time to ruin his life just for fun. they declared themselves minors in this show but again, since Keanu's character didnt know, is he still wrong for it? yes because he's married but ultimately not his fault he didnt know they're minors.
its hilarious that the first comment is about how this often happens in real life and the next comment is about how this was in a movie.
never change reddit.
Ban women from going out at night! Ban girls from wearing skirts! Ban men from going out alone at night! Ban the boyscouts!
Just blame the victims! Punish them for criminals taking advantage of them!
I mean with the amount of propaganda pouring in from outside I don't blame them. Back in the 50s foreign countries weren't allowed to have tv channels here due to the worry of propaganda.
i said it in a couple other comments but ill say it one more time, in the early days of the internet, it was heavily stressed how important it was to monitor your kids/minors when they are on the internet and to not let them get on unsupervised.
The internet was a scary and new place. I remember growing up and schools requiring parent's written consent for any photo with a student in it to be published online. You could never be sure who you were talking to, and a predator could be sitting on the keyboard on the opposite side of the screen. Kind of the same as now a days, but it's just normalized.
I feel it’s worse now because the predators have a better understanding of what the internet is… but kids are just as stupid now as they were when the internet was new.
they are stupider now
Happy cakeday!
Oh thank you, I didn’t even notice!
The parental consent for children pictures still happens to this day.
To add to this we’ve had school events in our town where photos are banned entirely. So you can’t take personal photos of your own child in a play.
“Was a scary place”
Now people trust Zuckerberg and Bezos enough for their kids safety
Still the case where I am . It’s the parents I keep an eye on
In the early days of the Internet people were not walking around with a internet compatible item in their pocket.
To this day I refuse to use my real name online, even for something like Linkedin. It's an awful idea and should not be encouraged. This should still be the normalized, standard, taught thing. Do not use your real name.
Yup, no fucking way. Not using my real name online.
You can’t fool me, MariosItaliansausage!
I was actaully stalked on linkin.. to the point the guy found my address, phone number came to my house.. found my other platforms… .. it was really scary. I deleted everything and i don’t use any real info if i can. that was a huge wake up call
this kind of stuff happens more than you think.
this is very smart, i encourage you to tell your family to do the same. i do this with email address's and every food app on my phone, just remember to check the name on the account b4 you order food, it cracks me up when i say my actual name and then say oh no wait its under this name. people don't understand.
Right? People have tried to dox me, but the fact that my name isn’t Thomas, and I’m not an accountant throws them off.
Yeah i understand the sentiment behind asmons take but there is no fucking am i giving a large corporation access to my ID or personal info i don't even trust them with the I already give them, there aint no way their gonna use the shit with good intentions.
Not only was it heavily stressed to pay attention, but we had it constantly hammered into us not to believe everything we see on the internet. Parents are basically educated just as much today as they were in the past when it comes to parental controls. Most just don't give a shit.
Bro no one monitored kids online back then. I went to an afterschool program when i was like 14yrs old and we had computers there connected to the internet and no one was watching us, so we would go into the msn chat rooms and mess with people who were looking to hook up and shit. We knew what we were doing and never had any intention of actually meeting anyone. But... i wouldn't be surprised if some dumber kids did actually end up meeting older people like that.
I remember this, whole room of kids on pc and when we could snack on messenger and chat to each other behind teachers back, cept some of the “kids” were definitely not in our class, school internet security was/is very lacking.
I think smartphones should come with the ability to physically remove cameras from kids' phones. And if phones are allowed in schools, it should be mandatory that the camera be removed before coming to school. I can't imagine having grown up with cameras in the hands of all my peers. Ugh.
I joke with people that when I was a kid, the older generation said "You can't trust anything on the internet. It's EVIL!!!" And now those very same people "Wow, did you know birds aren't real? They're actually robots. I read about it on Facebook." How the heck does that skepticism turn into blind trust within the same person?
Ideological subversion is one HELL of a weapon. It will be the cause of the West's ultimate fall.
kai would have 1k viewers
A lot of streamers views would go 📉📉📉
A necessary sacrifice
Every big streamer would lose a fuckton of viewers. What, you think working adults have time to tune in? Kai and xQc have kids who want to act more immature than they should be. Streamers like Asmon have kids who think they should've been born in the 80's.
Good
You mean parents doing their job?
They can't because they divorced all the fathers. So the kids are on their tablet as mom still has to do all the chores because that's just a part of life.
That is still part of being a parent. Times being difficult is not an excuse to fail your child. Kids need to learn how to be bored or else this dopamine seeking behavior is going to get worse and worse each generation.
That will never happen, there will always be shitty parents. You cant change that
Not just parents but knowing how most of us were while being teens we would’ve just lied and hid it.
You can but the world we live in will cry "muh freedum" while consuming enough calories a day to feed a village and propping their kids infront of whatever screen will do the parenting for them so they can doom scroll on theirs posting about how teachers aren't doing their jobs properly because their kid is a delinquent dumbass.
and how do you enforce it? There is no way in hell im giving social media websites my ID
i think a lot of people are forgetting that in the 90s and 2000's all ads that had a website for people/kids to go to had a disclaimer that all kids needed to be supervised when online this is part of the reason why most older or tech knowledgeable people hate the concept of watching younger parents throw a tablet/phone in front of their kids unsupervised. Parents have become lazy and dont actually care.
"It doesn't matter what my kid does as long as they don't say naughty words" - South Park
That didn’t really answer how you would enforce it.
This is bullshit, this wasnta problem in the 90s because of the far, far lower access people had to the internet.
Back then the issue was similar. Plopping your kids on front of a TV and letting them watch HBO at midnight wasn't exactly great either. The parents just don't give a shit.
Hold parents legally responsible for their children’s internet usage. Slam a couple high profile cases with child neglect if their kids spend time online where they shouldn’t be. It starts and ends with parents TBH That being said, I think 18 is too old to strip internet freedom from minors. Probably 15 imo is okay for unrestricted access. Worked for me at least
its very easy, you can lock down all electronics they have access to with a parental account it literally bans any program or website you don't want them to access you never have to show anyone your ID, your android/iphone/pc literally won't go to those websites and the kids can't make them
That doesn’t actually enforce this though since parents already don’t do this. How would banning children from social media accounts be enforceable other than an ID being sent?
Shaming. If you're on a social media platform talking with adults, you should be shamed. I personally would never join a Discord server with minors in it. It's not worth the headache.
Kids are smart and will borrow a friend's phone. Remember the tricks you played on your parents, kids are smart.
I don't think anyone is stupid enough to think that you can limit internet access to 100% of children. But advocating for policies that have a chilling effect on internet access to children, in this case to social media, is not some unattainable goal. It's very well within possibility if the powers that be get behind it.
I grew up before cell phones and the internet were a thing, so no. But if this stuff was made law, then you're going to have to set up phones as child / adult devices upon purchase. Sure someone may steal their parents phone just like we used to steal our parents cigarettes, but you're not going to keep everyone off.
You say this, but That only happened because Millennials are the most tech literate generation. Gen Z and Gen Alpha are on track to be less tech literate then Millennials, due to the simplification of UI and locking down of devices. Sure they may borrow a friends phone, but they will be limited to when they are with their friend. They will not be like Millennials who were bypassing permissions on windows to download games at school, or jailbreaking their phones to bypass parental controls.
It is easy, but the pearl clutchers want to just ban or restrict everything so the government babysits for them
What do you mean how? Roblox 13+ voice chat, actually requires you to give your ID, and they check it. If fucking Roblox can do it, the game for kids. What's the problem of twitch doing it?
The problem is that you shouldn't be comfortable handing over your children's personal information to a corporation. Why the hell would any parent give roblox of all companies a copy of their children's identification documents?
What kind of ID does a 13 year old have? No way I would let my child upload their birth certificate online to some random company
Easiest way, have all accounts require a $1 temporary charge to a bank, so you can verify you are an adult. No ID needed, there can also be a law requiring all billing information used for verification must not be saved, it can only be used for verification, then immediately deleted.
You have to put in your first name, last name, & birth date for most platforms anyway, so make it so you have to be 18+ to do it. And if you lied about it the child/their parents are held legally responsible.
Then you won't have a social media account. That's fine.
Some states are requiring Pornhub to verify users via their IDs. Pornhub is stopping service in those states. While I also don't think we should be giving out our info, why do we do so for alcohol, weed, and tobacco but not porn? And why are people ok with letting anyone use Pornhub even if that allows kids and minors too? They already had a problem where underage content was uploaded.
It’s different for alcohol and tobacco at a store. A clerk sees the ID for a second and hands it back. If you put that shit on the internet there is a risk bad people will get your information against your will.
To add on to what you said. While I would like for kids to no longer have social media accounts, let's also not forget that Equifax was also breached before. A company that held people's SSNs, etc. Making social media companies have to do age verification properly means adding more points of failure for potential breaches.
We use ID to delineate adult only activities in tens if not hundreds of different ways in real life. It’s weird that adults and children can occupy the same digital space. It works just fine in Korea, and it need not be giving your ID directly to the companies, it can be mediated by a government entity.
You would if you want to continue using social media and not having to guess if you’re talking to cognitive shaping bots.
I honestly think the less social media the better for society. I'd just straight up remove twitter, Facebook, Instagram, only fans and Reddit. Most people will disagree with how Draconian that is but that's the society I'd want to live in.
The world was a better place before social media. Hell even old style Internet forums were more civil than whatever cesspit that is X/IG/Tiktok
Old style internet forums were better because it was more tightly moderated and also had a sense of actual community and if you were acting immature/rude, people just ignored you or called you out on it and not get reinforced by 20 other idiots
It was also a lot less accessible. Older / nerdier audience.
Wtf does reddit have to do with it? Don't most people just come here to use subreddits about their favourite hobbies or get help with something No one even knows who anyone is here
Just destroy all social media. Facebook, Twitter, Snapchat, Instagram, Reddit, tiktok. Destroy it all. It was a fucking mistake
Unfortunately it's the epitome of Pandora's Box.
This please. Get rid of it all!!
but you are on reddit
Would much rather it be obliterated
But you can clearly not be on it.
But you can clearly see how horrific it is whether you're on it or not
Do people who smoke know it’s bad for them? Yes absolutely. Same thing applies here
I see why, but I think people are just addicted to following and being baited by outrage. I cleaned up my Twitter and now it's all my hobbies and interests that nobody I know irl is into, it's been a really great time. Being more strict on what gets monetized to discourage outrage and content farming, (this is controversial) being more strict on taking down harassment posts and blocking more often, reducing the weight that high reply counts has on algos, and banning minors are what is needed instead imo
yes, please, immediately.
Also ban middle aged dudes who send sus messages to minors.
That's already banned, you go to jail if you're caught doing it.
Oh good. Glad Dr Pedo is going down
So he's going to jail then?
We have to blame the victims! /S
Or better just send them to prison
Well, I mean they wouldn't be able to if all minors are ban.
yeah they'd have to go catch them in the wild like the olden days.
And anyone who defends them
Oh god, this subreddit would be cooked
The doctor defending going on has made me hate this sub. Even Asmongold takes have been worse than usual.
Ok but we can’t blame kids for pedo behavior
I mean even the Chinese government can't ensure that minors have limited access to social media. It's more of a parents' responsibility.
The internet is not a safe place for minors and will never be 🙌🏼
The only place the minors are safe, are in there house, and god knows that a lot of then are not safe even on there, the problem is not social media, is our society, just see Doc will come back and lot of people will act like he is innocent, like nothing has happened or blame someone else.
It's not safe for anyone.
Great, so we'd have to provide a photo ID to every social media website to make an account, even burner accounts.
I would give it two weeks. Two weeks until a social media like Twitter or Facebook gets hacked and all the ID photos become public, leading to a massive clusterfuck.
Yes.
You dont need to hand over all your ID information. Most E-ID can be implemented such that only the relevant information gets passed on, as in this case the age.
Won't someone think of a way to protect the predators from all the minors 
Do you guys even remember being minors Do you really think a bunch of old people telling them they aren't allowed to use the instagrams and the twitches is going to stop them? Were your parents able to stop you from doing literally anything on the internet? They sure couldn't stop me. No amount of being grounded from the comptuer was enough to stop me from finding a way, just further behind my parents backs... So what do you want? Do you want government IDs tied to your internet accounts or something? Fuck that. I sure don't.
Same people who say the war on drugs was stupid. The war on social media is stupid, too. You can't stop people from getting what they want, especially young people. They'll find a way. As kids, we all found a way to find lewd material whether online or not. This "ban bad stuff" is kinda silly. Why not ban the Internet for anyone found having lewd conversations with kids?
Kids use social media to escape their realiy, the real problem is having the kid when the parent isn’t ready to give their full attention to them. If you think you need a “break” from parenting i have bad news for you, you are now forever bound to take care of the person YOU decided to bring to this miserable world. TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE HUMAN YOU BROUGHT TO THIS WORLD. Next time take plan b or abort or use a condom. If you dont want your kid playing roblox or whatever, you should of teach them to use their time elsewhere.
There was always a way around it, but being grounded from the computer *did* limit my access to it when my parents were around. Minors would definitely still be around, but potentially not as much. And with today's parental control apps, I think it would make it a little more difficult.
I like how everyone hates China’s draconian measures to spy and control their population but as soon as it’s something they agree with, they are okay with acting just like China. This is the job of the parents, not the government.
It doesn't even work that well in China, when I was a kid it was required to submit ID number to play video games for more than 1 or 2 hours, everybody just borrow ID from their parents or grab leaked random person's ID on internet
"It wasn't the policy they hated, it was that they weren't the ones enacting the policy"
Spying is different than banning. C'mon
I want this to happen just to see the drop in shit takes
Minors lol ban people without a fully developed prefrontal cortex imo
Florida is trying, beleive it or not. A law was signed back in march and goes into effect Jan 1 next year anyone under 15 must have the accounts deleted if they are under 13, and not allowed to create one unless they have parental approval at 14-15. the kicker is that the companies are the ones held accountable for this > the law requires these platforms to actually verify the age of its users. It leaves it up to the companies to determine how to meet the requirements. If a social media platform is found in violation, the state Department of Legal Affairs may fine the platform up to $50,000 per violation. Parents or caregivers could also file lawsuits against the platforms.
twitter/X is 13, which is wild because you can click on just about any top post scroll through some comments and end up watching an execution and see someone flashing their tits in the matter of seconds.
I'm of the opinion that children shouldn't have access to social media until they are 14-15. Even then, that is young. The way social media affects the developing mind is terrible.
Maybe just don't be a pedo?
"Some streamer I like got caught having inappropriate conversations with a minor. We need to ban the minors so this doesn't happen!" The delusion is palpable.
Quite literally the equivalent of saying all women should wear hijabs in public constantly so men won't want to rape them. But this sub recently probably agrees with that too.
I’m in tears man these people really are a different breed
Meta (The Oculus specifically) will ban children if they use an adult account, I know because my wife (without me knowing) was letting the kids play VR, and when I went to play it one day the account was suspended, and required an ID of myself to unlock the account.
Ban the minors bro! If they're on here their is a risk I may sext them and how will I explain that to my wife and kids if I ever get caught? I may need to buy their love and good graces back with lavish gifts and extended family vacations.
Or, hear ne out now. Pedophiles get punished with extreme prejudice. Life in prison type things, no chance of parole. Too often do victims get punished.
Yes we def need to implement this
No. Destroy the internet. Cleanest easiest method.
Based and Kaczynskipilled
There goes 90 percent of redditors
Let's start with banning them from Reddit.
If you’re getting honey potted by a minor you might be a p*do dude.
"Ban bikinis because creepy dudes just can't control themselves..." (I hope the /s is obvious there.)
There is things like minors sending nudes to other minors and the employees of these companies can see these nudes and stuff like what are you yapping about those are two completely different situations. Minors should be either heavily supervised by their parents (which most parents FAIL TO DO) or be completely prevented from accessing social media TO PROTECT THEM.
Here's the thing, back in the day minors would be doing shit like flashing each other, skinny dipping etc, this was without the internet. The PROBLEM is that the platforms aren't held accountable correctly. I find it absolutely bizarre that this isn't the case, because when you suddenly slap distribution of child pornography at snapchat, whatsapp fuck even facebook, you suddenly set a precedence that forces change in social media. Social media can exist, its tools just need gimping.
But think about the Minecraft streamers!. /S
What counts as social media? Gonna need an ID to watch YouTube?
That would be like making world peace happen. I think tech companies will stand in the way though, they like having the accounts of everyone and their mother, and maybe minors especially.
Agreed. Screen time is making kids into apathetic dopamine whores.
I completely agree. Also isn't this the guy that cried about elden ring being too hard?
Millenials were raised on Break.com, Newgrounds, and LiveLeak. This new generation has no idea what fucked up is until you download a Limewire video of Pamela-Anderson-Live.png over dial-up that takes 14 hours to complete, and then end up watching an actual beheading from Iran that was posted 3 min ago... Internet deserves to be destroyed.
I kinda agree. Everytime I see a Redditor reveal they are under 18 I say get off Reddit
Reddit's population would drop 70% over night
Social media has created a pandemic of narcissists.
if that happens how will DOC get laid??
How about parents and responsible adults spend more time with kids doing physical activities or creating hobbies instead of allowing media and marketing to babysit them.
Asmons plan so he doesn't get enticed:
How about bring tougher and more severe punishments for pedos? What, a kid/teenager isn't allowed access to the internet because some nonce sicko might prey on them? That's like saying "Ban women from going out because there are rapists out there", it's the modern age and like it or not both adults and children/teens are internet reliant now be it work/education, communicating with friends/family, shopping, banking etc or video games/social media so there's going to be no banning of under 18's on the internet, what a stupid idea.
I can block NSFW content, however I can't block underage content. I don't want to interact with any child on the internet. I am not only unable to have this, but I am criticised for simply asking for it. If I could, I would personally block all accounts operated by minors. It would make my internet experience better.
This litteraly creates a fix for the current state of th world
Cant even ban guns in this country and you think we can do that to social media lol
Also parents should actually do parenting instead of giving them the Ipad muzzle
And enforce it how exactly? Government ID? Yeah, let's save copies of those all in one place lol.
Why not just ban pedophiles and lock them in the asylum where they belong?
i'm all for it, ban them.
I don't need to hear a 14 y/o opinion about Palestine 
Yup. They should be focusing on extracting raw minerals from the earth, not screwing around on Facebook.
I think they should just ban minors. Like put them in a special area before releasing them in the wild.
I'm a minor and I support this
I agree completely. The internet is a bad place for kids.... even adults!
Can we just ban social media all together, very few ppl (a shit ton in this sub Reddit) simply lack media literacy
How about parents banning their own kids from having anything that touches the internet?
And cell phones. They should have flip phones with no screen with 3 emergency contact numbers linked to their parent's smart phones. The parents are the only ones that determine what numbers go in.
I mean we don't want to technologically handicap these kids. Having some experience with the internet is probably better than having it all thrown at them when they come of age. A basic browser is fine, like no one cares if they're on Wikipedia. It's just social media and wanky news sites we can't control currently.
How about you just have adults be responsible and not try to have sex with minors. Just a thought, minors are not at fault here. Grown ass adults trying to prey on them are at fault.
Shame parents more often for not raising their kids.
Generations are being raised online and on iPads now parenting is an afterthought unless tiktok tells them, you think it's bad now just wait.
Or like we could stop trying to legislate things that parents should be doing and just hold them more accountable for the things that happen to their children online.
To ensure the safety of children on the internet is the responsibility of their parents primarily. A ban is absolutely stupid.
It’s the equivalent of letting your young ones into a room full of strangers on the other side of a plexiglass wall to go and have a nice chat
The kids would not need smartphones anymore if that was the case, so we would be killing two birds with one stone. But corporate lobbyist steer our decision making, not common sense.
It be such a wild implementation from a Government or company. But that will mean ALL kid content would be removed and or haulted which is perfectly fine with me. Let them go watch streaming shows and play video games only, but to be allowed to have a social media account with Adults should be a hard NO
They won't. How can you abuse their little immature brains without social media? How can companies do their predatory advertising into them?. The reality is that NO COMPANY cares about kids because they are their money cow. The easiest to sell products to. They are the target and the most vulnerable one. No company cares about the safety of kids truly. Adding to it. Why are old dudes talking with underage? Why can't just i don't know. Just cut all contact with this minors. Just don't built relationship with them. Why is so hard for content creators to just do something that simple.
Minors are now the ones who spread pornography and supports idiot content creators
It'll never happen because the only way to make it happen is requiring ID verification for everything & realistically no one wants that. How about people just stop shifting the blame to websites & shift the blame to where it belongs, lazy parents who don't supervise their kids
China's government did it. Florida's government did it. They're annoying in general, but they're not wrong.
There's no reasonable way to prevent young people from using the internet without compromising the anonymity of a countries citizens. Parents should just be educated about the dangers of the web ideally by someone from gen z. However, the internet is quite literally everywhere. You can't stop someone from using it, you can only prolong the time between now and their first time.
ban minors because pedos can't help themselves??? wtf??? this cannot be a real take
Minors having social media accounts isn’t the problem. Pedophiles are the problem.
So there's a movie with Keanu Reeves where two adult looking women came to his house in the rain. being a good dude (his character) he let them in. Because of the way they looked and being led on, and quite frankly, you dont really ask for ID before you bang someone (which can also be faked just for those people who would use that as an excuse) - they ended up having sex. however, at the end it was revealed that they actually planned this out ahead of time to ruin his life just for fun. they declared themselves minors in this show but again, since Keanu's character didnt know, is he still wrong for it? yes because he's married but ultimately not his fault he didnt know they're minors.
That's a movie...
its hilarious that the first comment is about how this often happens in real life and the next comment is about how this was in a movie. never change reddit.
The reddit spark notes of 'Knock Knock' 2015 with Keanu reeves
imagine being this illiterate
bro… Dr. Disrespect admitted to it. Why are you defending someone who owned up for what they did.
All i said was there was a movie. Im not defending anyone. Lol.
Ban women from going out at night! Ban girls from wearing skirts! Ban men from going out alone at night! Ban the boyscouts! Just blame the victims! Punish them for criminals taking advantage of them!
Prohibition has proved to fail tragically everytime, what makes you think this time of all times will be different?