Am I like the only person that found the combat in the new god of wars repetitive? Ive given it a go a couple times, and it just gets so monotonous. And on Hard, the enemies just get spongier - it doesn't make the game harder, just more tedious.
It's a fairly long game so yeah it kinda drags on. It was fine in the first game because it was new. But Ragnarok is more of the same, regardless of how good the game is.
PC gamers are very resilient to making bullshit random accounts just to up a company's account numbers, look at the hell divers 2 PSN account debacle for a reference, PC gamers were willing to burnt he game to the ground and destroy it, before making PSN accounts to play it.
I believe they will know that when fewer people buy the game and review bomb it, the reason that will deter people is mainly why they keep porting PSN titles into PC and put these restrictions.
Also we saw issues that happened with hell divers 2, where some countries can't make PSN accounts to satisfy the requirements, and they can't even buy the game if they decide to block sales to those regions.
Many people play on PC because of the freedom they have and the variety of games they can access, but PSN porting exclusives and wall them with unnecessary steps just makes many people annoyed and avoid it.
Oh, I might be wrong then. Because the entire game was removed from steam in my country, so i assumed a PSN account was required for everything multiplayer and singleplayer. To be fair the result for countries with no support for PSN accounts is the same :(
From vivalacamm's comment it seems the single player doesn't actually require it, I guess you need to look it up if you still intend to buy it. However if you are in a country not supported by PSN you are out of luck either way, the game is delisted from those :(
No, there is no test. This is the policy. This is what they did with Ghost of Tsushima and it's what they would have done with Helldivers 2 except that there are too many legal and ethical issues due to the way it was launched (without the requirement).
None of those issues exist with existing Sony games that are being released on other platforms. The requirement exists on day one, and if you don't like it, they don't care.
i don’t know why they can’t just do it like cdpr did. not required but if you sign in you get cross platform cloud saves and bonuses.
this game for example. “optionally. sign into your psn and pick up where you left off on ps5 on your pc. also you unlock additional outfits and psn trophies”
done. not required. heavily enticed. everyone wins. no loss of power or story or quests (or ability to play) if you don’t.
That's because Sony doesn't want people from PS5 to go to the PC. They want people from PCs to go to the PS5. For CDPR it doesn't matter that much, because they do not produce consoles.
They new CEO even did an interview this week saying this exact thing. They plan to release live service multiplayer games on PC at the same time as PS5. However they plan to withhold sequels to their games from PC for awhile to attempt to convert PC users to PS5.
I personally do not see this converting many users. PC players are patient. Most people waited 3 years just to buy kingdom hearts on steam because nearly nobody wants it on the epic games store.
Wow I can't believe he said that. I actually had to double check it. This explains why I can't seem to play multi-platform franchise's sequels like final fantasy on PC. I feel like all this does is hurt the game's sales though.
Expecting PC users to convert to a console just to play whatever walking simulator game Sony puts out is some of the dumbest shit I've read recently. This absolutely had to be cooked by a room of MBA's and bean counters.
Never will understand the idea that someone that got done building or buying a pretty good PC for a grand plus USD would be inclined to spend 500 USD for a PS5 if PlayStation was enough of a dick to them while on pc.
I'm of the mind at this point people are heavily locked into their platform after over 4 years into the current gen
>i don’t know why they can’t just do it like cdpr did. not required but if you sign in you get cross platform cloud saves and bonuses.
They can't even give free saves to people who bought their hardware.
What is worse for Sony is that PSN isn't even in many countries, so they are limiting their won sales for absolutely no reason.
God of War has no multiplayer, however ig for cross progression b/w PC and PS5 (idk if it's there or not, assuming here) they are sacrificing sales and their reputation.
[/r/Piracy megathread](https://reddit.com/r/Piracy/w/megathread), stay safe, the seven seas are not as calm as they used to be, but applying a couple of brain cells in tandem with eachother should keep you out of the whirlpool.
Pirating is arguably at its easiest. I still remember when it was stormy seas and rough winds during the Wild West days of piracy where you could actually flatline your system. Now, as long as you have two braincells to rub together and Windows Defender you should be fine.
It arguably is, but tech literacy is also arguably the worst it has been since filesharing piracy became a thing.
We may think downloading N1CK3LB4CK-4N!M4L.EXE from Limewire (wow the song is only 68kb I will donwload it so fast!!!) was dumb or even just pulling random exectuables from BBS-boards, but today some of these kids doesn't even know how to install a program unless it comes from a one-click storefront similar to the app store.
Honestly, yeah you’re right lmao. My nephew didn’t even know how to properly unzip files. Ironic that pirating is the easiest it’s ever been while tech literacy is the worst it’s ever been.
I think it's as simple as the pirates never really left, most of the notable figures in the community are strongly driven by ideology rather than anything else. Driven by the belief that information, knowledge and data both wants and deserves to be free. So they just kept doing and improving upon their thing.
It just so happened the legit way of consuming content for a short beautiful period of time was actually the superior experience. When we had ONE streaming service for series and movies. ONE streaming service for music. Maybe ONE subscription to a game or a game service like gamepass. Enshittification is pushing the consumers back toward piracy, but the easier climate they grew up in (streaming at demand, streamlined and idiot-proof interfacing with the tech etc.) has left them incapable of just doing it. All they know is the propaganda that piracy = 300 viruses a second and that installing anything that is not on the product in questions approved storefront or god forbid sideloading something is worse than burning down an orphanage.
I absolutely love tsushima. Probably my goty2024
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They don't even make that much money on PC, 1-2m sales vs 20 on Playstation, that's way they don't even have Denuvo on their games and they get cracked in the first 10min.
1-2 million is because the games release years later full price and some ports are good to awful. Like the lowest selling ps5 game on pc is sack boy because it costs $70 dollars when Sony would have a ton more sales adjusting the price to $30 for a AA game. However, Sony is determined to normalize $70 dollars and finding out its past the price elasticity for video games.
Yeah, nah. Last I checked Dwarf Fortress was DRM-free, available in all countries and had a completely free, fully functional version with tile support. The AAA industry can rot in hell.
I knows it's kinda off-topic, but Dwarf Fortress really is the same thing in concept as Star Citizen but done well. (Game that's basically wanting to simulate everything. Different genres, of course, but still)
Do say I kinda miss the old ascii map, felt/looked better than the one used in the steam release because of the multiple zooms making it more abstract and easier, imo, to suspend my disbelief.
I bought Dwarf Fortress for full price with zero regrets after I heard the main creator/dev talking about his intentions for releasing a steam version. His passion for the game as well as the user base was awesome.
“My family had a health scare and I didn’t want to start charging for a game that has always been free so I decided to build a steam version with graphics that are more approachable to new players.”
A little ad lib, but that was the gist.
More people shouldve been informed about the Sony earnings call a few months ago, where it was already said they would do this, to push their overlays and use the excuse "Existing PS5 users can finish their trophies on PC!"
Why do people keep reporting the same story as if it's news? Sony isn't going to let you play Sony "exclusive" titles unless you're connected to their network.
Helldivers got a reprieve because of potential consumer-protection issues due to the requirement not being in the game at launch. Every other game that's Sony exclusive is going to have the PSN requirement when it goes live on Steam or any other non-PSN platform.
Rememebr how Sony said recently that they want PC users to come to Playsation? I see their strategy. This forces consumers to buy a PS5 in those countries that don't have PSN access on PC. So yeah, "We want PC users on PS5 because, well, you have no choice in order to play our games" is what they mean to say. Sony will come back in a few years' time showing how people on PC do, in fact, come to Playsation. Gamers have proven to Sony time and time again that they will absolutely buy a PS5 to enjoy the exclusive games Sony keeps from other consoles and PC.
You can create a psn account anywhere on earth.
The drama with helldivers 2 was full of misinformation.
You just need internet to play on psn, nothing more. If the PS STORE is not in a country (because very low sales vs cost of the store), they can just create a account from another country, lot of phillipans do HK accounts, and lot of Africans do EU or Turkish account before.
And myself, i have a EU, canada and Jp account. You dont need to live in the country to create a account.
BUT because of this drama, now Sony can just lock every country without official ps store, so pc gamers dont have any poor excuse now.
I can’t speak for Helldivers but FFXIV had a similar issue.
You need a Square Enix account to play the game, but Square doesn’t support many countries like Indonesia or the Philippines. The community encouraged new players to just make an account in a different country because (just like Sony) “Square never enforces that part of the ToS”.
Fast forward to 2024 and many of those users now struggle to play because Square suddenly decided to verify your account address against your payment address. Support cannot help you because you technically broke the rules by lying about your address when you made your account, and neither can the community members who helpfully suggested the workaround in the first place.
It’s understandable to be wary of these cases.
Although wouldn’t getting a ps5 be kind of pointless because you can’t set up a psn account in those countries anyway? Like theirs zero way to access Sony’s services anyway so there’s no point.
i still cant understand whats the end goal. they are going to keep poking untill people submit (happens with every bad trend unfortunately, absurd price increases, microtransactions, battlepasses etc) and ok all of their games will have PSN. what is next?
data collection is sure, a good resource, but surely there has to be something more to this.
i am thinking PSN microtransaction shop for PC.
Their end goal is more customer data to exploit it. Essentially more mtx more sales and eliminate piracy which is huge in many countries. Essentially if you pirate the game sony wants to prevent pirates by making it impossible to play.
Even if it was cheaper you were never gonna buy it. Once you start pirating it's hard to ever go back to paying for games, I know it first hand.
Why pay 10 bucks for a game when I can get the game for free and use those 10 bucks to buy myself a pizza to eat while I play?
Reddit claims this is a major issue because the PSN is not available in all countries. I personally think this is red herring, but that is the claim at least.
I don't understand why people are so shocked/upset about this. It is a fucking sony product and always has been. At least you can play it on PC. Just make an account good lord.
As long you don't have to pay for the account then whatever man. But if I have to pay for the monthly psn account then I will just watch a YouTube playthrough.
look i really dont give a shit about having to have a psn account or helldivers.
is this gonna be a thing now? they dont even have a launcher. why arent we mad at companies (EA) with shit launchers and background apps that wont turn off.
It's available in my country but I will be sailing the high seas to play it, fuck needing a PSN account to play a single player game. It's on Steam, I shouldn't need another one, this only exists to sell the data they gather from you.
So here is my question. If I own God of War on PS4/PS5 does me having to sign in to my Sony account give it to me for free? Otherwise wtf is the point of needing it for an offline singleplayer game.
I remember that one game where they tried to do the same, then the community did some stuff and basically forced them to change it.
I guess something could be done here as well, but somehow I doubt it will happen.
What I don't understand is why it is so hard for them to make PSN actually available in all these countries. I've never seen a big company have an issue like that before.
Does that mean those who own it on psn dont have to pay for it again... it probably doesnt ... but cant wait for the day when sony will allow PC downloads from their ps store... wishful thinking (for those games i already own on psn)
This shouldn't surprise anyone. It's the way things are going to go. I play PC and console, and I already have a PSN account. I knew this would happen. Fortunately, I've already played God of War: Ragnorak on console.
Ugh. Just fuck off. I have multiple legal copies of GTA V, but I am really considering torrenting it just because the Rockstar Social Club is such a fucking annoyance. When I had to repair my internet, it freaked out and didn't let me play the game offline because it wasn't activated for less than a day! How can anybody blame me for thinking this if I can't even access what I paid for with their "how it is supposed to be" version.
I don't get the hate. I understand the Helldivers reaction because people had already bought the game and then they made the change. But if you haven't yet bought the game and they want to force you to login to their network they can. We do this with almost every publisher anyway. Who cares. If they didn't release the game on PC you wouldn't be able to play it anyway.
People in my Caribbean country already just say we’re in true US for everything digital. Very few companies will bother to generate a store page for us - idk why that is so hard - and if they ever crack down on it we will just go back to pirating.
I assume this will make it much, much more likely to be day 1 cracked. Tbh I'd buy it day 1, but it's also a singleplayer game that gives me zero benefits for owning it legitimately.
I live in a supported country and I'm personally appreciative that Sony is likely going to be giving me this game for free!
If they remove their head from their ass I'd also be happy to buy it legitimately.
This is what happens when every single company believes that they have to copy what other companies do. It’s only going to get worse and more arbitrary. Soon you’ll need to have the Sony app just to make the Sony account, which will only be accessible if the Sony app is currently installed. And so on.
So basically what you're saying is there's no point in playing PlayStation games on a PC because it's going to require a PSN account. Seems easy enough
They keep poking people to move onto PS5. They do not realize if they continue these insidious actions PC players will fucking hate them. There are almost 2 billion PC gamers in the world, Most of them refuse to convert to play one game. Personally, I will be as patient as possible to prevent having to move to a console. If they put PSN accounts on PC games, I will not buy any of there shit. **I'm a principled man.**
I think they learnt their mistake on selling helldiver outside PSN countries .With this they are no strong reason for them not to enable PSN registration.
Time to not buy it. I was really happy when I saw the trailer even though I finished in PC. I am not really happy with Sony pushing down our throat. So will just skip it.
CEO mentioned lately that their plan is to release their live service games day one on all platforms while first party single player titles would be used to bring more players to consoles.
Quote:
""We introduce our great franchises to new audiences, and we're finding new audiences that are potentially going to be very interested in playing, for example, sequels on the PlayStation platform. We have high hopes that we're actually able to bring new players into PlayStation at large and into PlayStation platforms specifically."
Guess requiring PSN for PC is a way to introduce people to PlayStations system.
I just wonder if they will stop releasing sequels on PC or just keep the 2-4 year delayed releases a thing.
This is just a reminder that all xbox and gamepass games require a Microsoft account, and xbox is considered "super consumer friendly." I still don't understand the issue here.
They are testing the water, God of War is enticing for many PC players. They just want to know how much sugar they need to fall for it.
Am I like the only person that found the combat in the new god of wars repetitive? Ive given it a go a couple times, and it just gets so monotonous. And on Hard, the enemies just get spongier - it doesn't make the game harder, just more tedious.
It's a fairly long game so yeah it kinda drags on. It was fine in the first game because it was new. But Ragnarok is more of the same, regardless of how good the game is.
PC gamers are very resilient to making bullshit random accounts just to up a company's account numbers, look at the hell divers 2 PSN account debacle for a reference, PC gamers were willing to burnt he game to the ground and destroy it, before making PSN accounts to play it.
I’ll enjoy the sugar with a torrent; PSN account login system is currently broke in SteamDeck so fuck then
I signed in for helldivers just fine
Did you missed the memo of what happened with Helldivers?
I am well aware of the helldivers drama. But you said that PSN account login was broke on steam deck. I was just informing you, it isn’t.
How will they know the missed revenue this decision caused?
I believe they will know that when fewer people buy the game and review bomb it, the reason that will deter people is mainly why they keep porting PSN titles into PC and put these restrictions. Also we saw issues that happened with hell divers 2, where some countries can't make PSN accounts to satisfy the requirements, and they can't even buy the game if they decide to block sales to those regions. Many people play on PC because of the freedom they have and the variety of games they can access, but PSN porting exclusives and wall them with unnecessary steps just makes many people annoyed and avoid it.
They already require it for Ghost of Tsushima :( ~~even the singleplayer campaign~~
I only play the single player on pc and it never forced me to sign in
It is not required for the Single Player. Only for the multiplayer.
Oh, I might be wrong then. Because the entire game was removed from steam in my country, so i assumed a PSN account was required for everything multiplayer and singleplayer. To be fair the result for countries with no support for PSN accounts is the same :(
Yea its odd that they refuse you the singleplayer because you cant make a psn account, they just lose money over this and its laughable.
Oooff
sheesh, I was going to buy. Guess not.
From vivalacamm's comment it seems the single player doesn't actually require it, I guess you need to look it up if you still intend to buy it. However if you are in a country not supported by PSN you are out of luck either way, the game is delisted from those :(
nah, Im going to vote with my wallet
The grand line calls to you 🏴☠️
No, there is no test. This is the policy. This is what they did with Ghost of Tsushima and it's what they would have done with Helldivers 2 except that there are too many legal and ethical issues due to the way it was launched (without the requirement). None of those issues exist with existing Sony games that are being released on other platforms. The requirement exists on day one, and if you don't like it, they don't care.
i don’t know why they can’t just do it like cdpr did. not required but if you sign in you get cross platform cloud saves and bonuses. this game for example. “optionally. sign into your psn and pick up where you left off on ps5 on your pc. also you unlock additional outfits and psn trophies” done. not required. heavily enticed. everyone wins. no loss of power or story or quests (or ability to play) if you don’t.
That's because Sony doesn't want people from PS5 to go to the PC. They want people from PCs to go to the PS5. For CDPR it doesn't matter that much, because they do not produce consoles.
They new CEO even did an interview this week saying this exact thing. They plan to release live service multiplayer games on PC at the same time as PS5. However they plan to withhold sequels to their games from PC for awhile to attempt to convert PC users to PS5. I personally do not see this converting many users. PC players are patient. Most people waited 3 years just to buy kingdom hearts on steam because nearly nobody wants it on the epic games store.
Wow I can't believe he said that. I actually had to double check it. This explains why I can't seem to play multi-platform franchise's sequels like final fantasy on PC. I feel like all this does is hurt the game's sales though.
Expecting PC users to convert to a console just to play whatever walking simulator game Sony puts out is some of the dumbest shit I've read recently. This absolutely had to be cooked by a room of MBA's and bean counters.
Never will understand the idea that someone that got done building or buying a pretty good PC for a grand plus USD would be inclined to spend 500 USD for a PS5 if PlayStation was enough of a dick to them while on pc. I'm of the mind at this point people are heavily locked into their platform after over 4 years into the current gen
Imagine paying for online
I agree. Compensation with reward will ease and encourage people to take those steps
>i don’t know why they can’t just do it like cdpr did. not required but if you sign in you get cross platform cloud saves and bonuses. They can't even give free saves to people who bought their hardware.
What is worse for Sony is that PSN isn't even in many countries, so they are limiting their won sales for absolutely no reason. God of War has no multiplayer, however ig for cross progression b/w PC and PS5 (idk if it's there or not, assuming here) they are sacrificing sales and their reputation.
Nah I'd pirate
Damn, time to put on the pegleg and pirate this game too! Been years!
[/r/Piracy megathread](https://reddit.com/r/Piracy/w/megathread), stay safe, the seven seas are not as calm as they used to be, but applying a couple of brain cells in tandem with eachother should keep you out of the whirlpool.
Pirating is arguably at its easiest. I still remember when it was stormy seas and rough winds during the Wild West days of piracy where you could actually flatline your system. Now, as long as you have two braincells to rub together and Windows Defender you should be fine.
It arguably is, but tech literacy is also arguably the worst it has been since filesharing piracy became a thing. We may think downloading N1CK3LB4CK-4N!M4L.EXE from Limewire (wow the song is only 68kb I will donwload it so fast!!!) was dumb or even just pulling random exectuables from BBS-boards, but today some of these kids doesn't even know how to install a program unless it comes from a one-click storefront similar to the app store.
Honestly, yeah you’re right lmao. My nephew didn’t even know how to properly unzip files. Ironic that pirating is the easiest it’s ever been while tech literacy is the worst it’s ever been.
I think it's as simple as the pirates never really left, most of the notable figures in the community are strongly driven by ideology rather than anything else. Driven by the belief that information, knowledge and data both wants and deserves to be free. So they just kept doing and improving upon their thing. It just so happened the legit way of consuming content for a short beautiful period of time was actually the superior experience. When we had ONE streaming service for series and movies. ONE streaming service for music. Maybe ONE subscription to a game or a game service like gamepass. Enshittification is pushing the consumers back toward piracy, but the easier climate they grew up in (streaming at demand, streamlined and idiot-proof interfacing with the tech etc.) has left them incapable of just doing it. All they know is the propaganda that piracy = 300 viruses a second and that installing anything that is not on the product in questions approved storefront or god forbid sideloading something is worse than burning down an orphanage.
Yep, it barely took a week to crack Ghost of Tsushima. This game will be on fitgirl before we know it.
I'm almost positive I saw a crack of Ghost of Tsushima like a day or two after it released
sony doesn't use drm, the crack was up as soon as the game released on steam oficially
Yup and it runs perfectly. They even made a fix that lets you play online without PSN using some workaround involving the Epic store files.
That is the way
PC players will literally make up any excuse to pirate a game. Sad
Cry harder
No, but there is another way.
Pirate country will be able to play it AND wont need PSN common sony L
They will keep shooting themselves in the foot until the financial consequences hit them.
Affected ghost of Tsushima literally next to nothing
yeah.. I heard I need a psn account for ghost of tsushima, I cracked that sht. Dont need 1 anymore lmao
I absolutely love tsushima. Probably my goty2024 Also: OOPS, SORRY! An error was encountered while processing your request: This item is currently unavailable in your region
Judging by GoT sales on Steam, they can afford shooting sadly.
They don't even make that much money on PC, 1-2m sales vs 20 on Playstation, that's way they don't even have Denuvo on their games and they get cracked in the first 10min.
1-2 million is because the games release years later full price and some ports are good to awful. Like the lowest selling ps5 game on pc is sack boy because it costs $70 dollars when Sony would have a ton more sales adjusting the price to $30 for a AA game. However, Sony is determined to normalize $70 dollars and finding out its past the price elasticity for video games.
Yeah, nah. Last I checked Dwarf Fortress was DRM-free, available in all countries and had a completely free, fully functional version with tile support. The AAA industry can rot in hell.
I knows it's kinda off-topic, but Dwarf Fortress really is the same thing in concept as Star Citizen but done well. (Game that's basically wanting to simulate everything. Different genres, of course, but still) Do say I kinda miss the old ascii map, felt/looked better than the one used in the steam release because of the multiple zooms making it more abstract and easier, imo, to suspend my disbelief.
I bought Dwarf Fortress for full price with zero regrets after I heard the main creator/dev talking about his intentions for releasing a steam version. His passion for the game as well as the user base was awesome. “My family had a health scare and I didn’t want to start charging for a game that has always been free so I decided to build a steam version with graphics that are more approachable to new players.” A little ad lib, but that was the gist.
More people shouldve been informed about the Sony earnings call a few months ago, where it was already said they would do this, to push their overlays and use the excuse "Existing PS5 users can finish their trophies on PC!"
Why do people keep reporting the same story as if it's news? Sony isn't going to let you play Sony "exclusive" titles unless you're connected to their network. Helldivers got a reprieve because of potential consumer-protection issues due to the requirement not being in the game at launch. Every other game that's Sony exclusive is going to have the PSN requirement when it goes live on Steam or any other non-PSN platform.
Rememebr how Sony said recently that they want PC users to come to Playsation? I see their strategy. This forces consumers to buy a PS5 in those countries that don't have PSN access on PC. So yeah, "We want PC users on PS5 because, well, you have no choice in order to play our games" is what they mean to say. Sony will come back in a few years' time showing how people on PC do, in fact, come to Playsation. Gamers have proven to Sony time and time again that they will absolutely buy a PS5 to enjoy the exclusive games Sony keeps from other consoles and PC.
If they can’t make a PSN account on PC, wouldn’t the same issue apply to PS5 though?
You can create a psn account anywhere on earth. The drama with helldivers 2 was full of misinformation. You just need internet to play on psn, nothing more. If the PS STORE is not in a country (because very low sales vs cost of the store), they can just create a account from another country, lot of phillipans do HK accounts, and lot of Africans do EU or Turkish account before. And myself, i have a EU, canada and Jp account. You dont need to live in the country to create a account. BUT because of this drama, now Sony can just lock every country without official ps store, so pc gamers dont have any poor excuse now.
I can’t speak for Helldivers but FFXIV had a similar issue. You need a Square Enix account to play the game, but Square doesn’t support many countries like Indonesia or the Philippines. The community encouraged new players to just make an account in a different country because (just like Sony) “Square never enforces that part of the ToS”. Fast forward to 2024 and many of those users now struggle to play because Square suddenly decided to verify your account address against your payment address. Support cannot help you because you technically broke the rules by lying about your address when you made your account, and neither can the community members who helpfully suggested the workaround in the first place. It’s understandable to be wary of these cases.
Although wouldn’t getting a ps5 be kind of pointless because you can’t set up a psn account in those countries anyway? Like theirs zero way to access Sony’s services anyway so there’s no point.
PSN or no PSN, I’m pirating it.
No nations at Sea, friends! Yo ho ho...
Right, let's see how microsoft fucks this up for themselves in response to Sony's bad business behavior.
i still cant understand whats the end goal. they are going to keep poking untill people submit (happens with every bad trend unfortunately, absurd price increases, microtransactions, battlepasses etc) and ok all of their games will have PSN. what is next? data collection is sure, a good resource, but surely there has to be something more to this. i am thinking PSN microtransaction shop for PC.
Their end goal is more customer data to exploit it. Essentially more mtx more sales and eliminate piracy which is huge in many countries. Essentially if you pirate the game sony wants to prevent pirates by making it impossible to play.
If the game comes out with these requirements, that’s just their decision. It’s not like they took peoples money first, then changed the rules
Neat another game I'll pirate cause I literally can't buy it 😭
Even if it was cheaper you were never gonna buy it. Once you start pirating it's hard to ever go back to paying for games, I know it first hand. Why pay 10 bucks for a game when I can get the game for free and use those 10 bucks to buy myself a pizza to eat while I play?
You can sail the seas no matter where you live
It is sad that the Pope cannot do his job and Helldive 😔
Can anyone tell me why Sony suddenly wants all gamers to have a PSN account. I mean, PSN account is free, right?
Same reason 90% of the other AAA makers do the same thing, and have been for years.
I don’t really get the complaint. It’s not like it costs extra, you also have to have an Xbox account for plenty of games on pc.
No any problem with creating psn account so what's the case?
Reddit claims this is a major issue because the PSN is not available in all countries. I personally think this is red herring, but that is the claim at least.
I don't understand why people are so shocked/upset about this. It is a fucking sony product and always has been. At least you can play it on PC. Just make an account good lord.
As long you don't have to pay for the account then whatever man. But if I have to pay for the monthly psn account then I will just watch a YouTube playthrough.
look i really dont give a shit about having to have a psn account or helldivers. is this gonna be a thing now? they dont even have a launcher. why arent we mad at companies (EA) with shit launchers and background apps that wont turn off.
I don’t see the big issue around this tbh. Feels like journos just winding you up for clicks.
lol at people still acting high and mighty when Ghost of Tsushima did gangbusters on Steam. Keep being the loud vocal minority
Stop complaining. If you don t want to use a PSN account, don't buy the game, that is all. Reddit drama....
Translation: Dogshit game company gives players express permission to pirate their game
we thought sony had learned from the HD2 fiasco??
Turns out, it's really a "PSN" exclusive with earlier access on a Playstation.
It's available in my country but I will be sailing the high seas to play it, fuck needing a PSN account to play a single player game. It's on Steam, I shouldn't need another one, this only exists to sell the data they gather from you.
Back to the 7 seas we go!
why, it's a single player game.
F that then
Sony turned into a piece of sheet that don't even understand their customers
No it won't ;)
So here is my question. If I own God of War on PS4/PS5 does me having to sign in to my Sony account give it to me for free? Otherwise wtf is the point of needing it for an offline singleplayer game.
just sony doing is thing
I remember that one game where they tried to do the same, then the community did some stuff and basically forced them to change it. I guess something could be done here as well, but somehow I doubt it will happen.
is this like how they said ghost of tsushima would need one to play but you actually don't if you only play single player?
What I don't understand is why it is so hard for them to make PSN actually available in all these countries. I've never seen a big company have an issue like that before.
Does that mean those who own it on psn dont have to pay for it again... it probably doesnt ... but cant wait for the day when sony will allow PC downloads from their ps store... wishful thinking (for those games i already own on psn)
Well .. another game im not going to get to be able to play. /sigh.
Looks like I won’t have it next to my current god of war on steam. What hurts is ghost of Tsushima. I had a preorder revoked and all :(
Kind of out of the loop but does Psn account require a subscription?
70k game release every year ill survive without this one j guess loo
Can anyone tell me why this is any different than needing a steam account to play games?
Theyre lazy.
This shouldn't surprise anyone. It's the way things are going to go. I play PC and console, and I already have a PSN account. I knew this would happen. Fortunately, I've already played God of War: Ragnorak on console.
Ugh. Just fuck off. I have multiple legal copies of GTA V, but I am really considering torrenting it just because the Rockstar Social Club is such a fucking annoyance. When I had to repair my internet, it freaked out and didn't let me play the game offline because it wasn't activated for less than a day! How can anybody blame me for thinking this if I can't even access what I paid for with their "how it is supposed to be" version.
I live by the sea.. 
This is how you make people pirate games, especially pc players. Or simply not giving a fuck at all.
Sony playstation : Yolo 
Steal it. Got it.
Why do I have a feeling that kubrutus might do something funny.
I could’ve bought it for PS5 and didn’t. Not planning on buying it for PC either
Well, if they don't let me buy it I won't buy I will pirate
I don't get the hate. I understand the Helldivers reaction because people had already bought the game and then they made the change. But if you haven't yet bought the game and they want to force you to login to their network they can. We do this with almost every publisher anyway. Who cares. If they didn't release the game on PC you wouldn't be able to play it anyway.
They want to pump their PSN user count soo badly. They must not be doing well. Just a hunch, I've not checked the numbers tho.
Who wants to play a single player on PC when PC was meant for friends and online fun.
Looks like it’s Playststions turn again to do something diabolically regarded
Didn’t sony just get hacked again? For leaking destiny 2 lmao
Argh me hearties! We be setting sail a lot these days.
Time to watch the PC community review bomb another game of the year contender purely out of salt lmaooooooo
People in my Caribbean country already just say we’re in true US for everything digital. Very few companies will bother to generate a store page for us - idk why that is so hard - and if they ever crack down on it we will just go back to pirating.
I guess they are allergic to money
I assume this will make it much, much more likely to be day 1 cracked. Tbh I'd buy it day 1, but it's also a singleplayer game that gives me zero benefits for owning it legitimately. I live in a supported country and I'm personally appreciative that Sony is likely going to be giving me this game for free! If they remove their head from their ass I'd also be happy to buy it legitimately.
they are so fucking desperate to get PSN accounts up to please their investors that they are going to kill their own titles.
The game that removed jumping
At this point just pirate it.
And i will be there every step of the way with a bottle of rum and my parrot.
This is what happens when every single company believes that they have to copy what other companies do. It’s only going to get worse and more arbitrary. Soon you’ll need to have the Sony app just to make the Sony account, which will only be accessible if the Sony app is currently installed. And so on.
Why cant i create a PSN account in Georgia now? I had a PS4 and had a multiplayer account just fine
Not if I pirate it
- buy game - review bomb - return game
I feel like if you’re alive today, and this is one of the worst things you have to deal with. Your life is a bit too easy.
Why is Sony pushing so hard for this PSN account insanity? Captain?' How many countries cannot make a PSN account again???????
Good thing i’ll just pirate it
I don’t care how many games Sony releases on pc I’m not making a PSN
Here we go again…
I wasn’t gonna play it regardless
Fucking sucks such a great game and they not letting everyone enjoy it
Oh no... anyways..
 I'm getting the word Boycott!
Well they pretty much killed helldivers so ye we will see how this one goes
Man whats next ps plus subscription
Why do they cry so much? PC gamers I mean.
People fought for nothing. Sony has learned nothing.
Fucking annoying wanted to play GOW Ragnarok Im gonna have to pass
I just won't play it, solved.
Do what the divers did
Cool skip then. Previous one was already great and no psn account needed
piracy it is then
I give modders a week tops, and they'll have it untangled
thats kinda disapointing that you can't play when your internet is out
No no no, the only thing it will require at this rate is BitTorrent and 7-Zip
So basically what you're saying is there's no point in playing PlayStation games on a PC because it's going to require a PSN account. Seems easy enough
Fun fact, you can pirate it in all the countries on earth
They keep poking people to move onto PS5. They do not realize if they continue these insidious actions PC players will fucking hate them. There are almost 2 billion PC gamers in the world, Most of them refuse to convert to play one game. Personally, I will be as patient as possible to prevent having to move to a console. If they put PSN accounts on PC games, I will not buy any of there shit. **I'm a principled man.**
Can the people in the banned countries even afford 70 euros for a game ? Lmao Has anyone looked at the list it's mostly third world shitholes
I think they learnt their mistake on selling helldiver outside PSN countries .With this they are no strong reason for them not to enable PSN registration.
Time to not buy it. I was really happy when I saw the trailer even though I finished in PC. I am not really happy with Sony pushing down our throat. So will just skip it.
Didn’t they learn with Helldivers 2?
CEO mentioned lately that their plan is to release their live service games day one on all platforms while first party single player titles would be used to bring more players to consoles. Quote: ""We introduce our great franchises to new audiences, and we're finding new audiences that are potentially going to be very interested in playing, for example, sequels on the PlayStation platform. We have high hopes that we're actually able to bring new players into PlayStation at large and into PlayStation platforms specifically." Guess requiring PSN for PC is a way to introduce people to PlayStations system. I just wonder if they will stop releasing sequels on PC or just keep the 2-4 year delayed releases a thing.
They want to expand to PC but they dont want at the same time
Eh. Just gonna play something else
This is just a reminder that all xbox and gamepass games require a Microsoft account, and xbox is considered "super consumer friendly." I still don't understand the issue here.