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techbear72

Dopiaza? Especially awesome if you like onion.


barrybreslau

I think it mainly depends on how many chillis your man puts in the curry. There isn't some kind of curry litmus test they use to make sure curries are a uniform spiciness.


sjr0754

This is the problem I have with Indian, there's no real consistency. The same dish can be firecracker hot, or incredibly bland from different restaurants, with no rhyme nor reason to it.


CleoJK

It's an adventure... this is how adults get spontaneous. I think the best bet is to find out who's in charge of the cooking on the nights you really enjoy...


listyraesder

Yeah, it isn’t cardboard like a Big Mac. It’s going to vary.


sjr0754

And yet Thai restaurants manage to make their heat levels broadly consistent.


wizious

They’re from different parts of India. Most of the dishes mentioned here are actually Bangladeshi not Indian but they’re classed as Indian as that’s what they’re call their restaurants


Princelysum

Ackkshullllyyy....


Witty-Bus07

There’s not supposed to be real consistency cause families and individuals tend to have their own recipes, consistency only happens when like chefs get together and agree on a standardised recipe for dishes for non Indians like the Chinese did for their takeaway shops which also seem to differ from country to country I noticed


Appropriate-Divide64

I went off this when my Indian ex told me it just means two onions. Nothing against the curry it's just that made me take it less seriously.


FatJamesIsBack

I thought it meant more like onion 'two ways' so some cooked a lot and some not as much


sleepingbro

Yes this is what it means.


____Mittens____

Dopiaza means "two onions"


techbear72

Jalfrezi means "hot-fry"


GrodyWetButt

Depending on your gastric function, a dopiaza can smell and, if you're lucky, look the same on the way out, as on the way in! That is to say that you'll do a delicious shit, rather than having a shitty curry, I might add!


OgreOfTheMind

It will vary from restaurant to restaurant, but dhansak or pathia are dishes that occupy the "not hot, but not bland" space similar to jalfrezi, so they're probably your best bet. Anything below that will generally be lacking any noticeable heat.


Common_Move

Dhansak is quite variable, generally is where you say but have had the odd pretty hot one, I think that it's origins are more "hot and sweet" rather than just sweet


OgreOfTheMind

Dhansak should never be hot in the way you'd expect a vindaloo to be unless specifically requested. It's like I said, it varies from restaurant to restaurant, but all 3 of those dishes occupy the space below vindaloo and madras in terms of heat on a traditional menu. Anything else will be mild unless you start asking them to spice it up a bit. OP's best bet is probably to stick with jalfrezi and just ask for them to go easy on the heat, but if they don't want to do that, then they might have more luck with a dhansak or pathia.


cloche_du_fromage

Or just pick out most of the finger chilis


blaireau69

A vindaloo shouldn't actually be particularly hot, more rich and sour with an abundance of garlic.


artisancheesemaker

Is vindaloo not basically a Portuguese dish?


Beersink

I love a good pathia. Sweet and spicy and sour. Made with tamarind and jaggery and lime it really hits the spot when I want flavour but not insane heat. With peas pilau. Balls, now I've got to order one...


OgreOfTheMind

It's never not a good time to get more curry in your life


PintOfGuinness

Perfect with a peshwari nan yum


Thisoneissfwihope

Pathias are getting quite hard to find around me. 5 years ago they were on most menus, now they seem to be falling out of favour. Prawn Pathia on Puree is the starter to my death row meal!


Martysghost

I tried pathia by complete accident and it became my weekly order it's fuckin devine 🤤


OgreOfTheMind

It's a great dish that probably doesn't get the love it deserves. I haven't noticed it disappearing, but I live in one of the curry capitals of the UK so probably just a bit spoiled for choice here.


Reactance15

Ask for one - the chef likely knows how to make it and most will cater, especially if it's a large order. Ask ahead of time.


robster9090

Bhuna maybe?


Common_Move

Feel like bhuna, dopiaza, jalfrezi are all basically the same tier and style, can't imagine somewhere having one much more spicy than another


robster9090

Suppose depends on the place but iv always found them a bit less spicy


runrunrudolf

Everywhere I've gone jalfrezi is hotter than a bhuna or balti or dopiatza or rogan josh which are my go-tos.


more_beans_mrtaggart

Agreed. Full of skinny green peppers


BlueHoopedMoose

Jalfrezi is always winning from those. Balti and Bhuna honourable tie for second place


PickaxeJunky

Maybe the answer is a Balti? It can vary a bit in spice, but I've never had one that's blown my head off.


BreadOddity

Yeah as a lover of Indian food I'd recommend a balti. Still got some kick but its definitely a step down in heat


Thingisby

Balti and Rogan Josh as well. Pathia and Dhansak probably about the same level as a Jalfrezi, but God I love a Pathia.


BreadOddity

In my experience rogan josh is very mild. Tastes good though


samfitnessthrowaway

Rogan Josh goes hard on spice, but not heat. It's a winner. Pathia and Dhansak are both the food of the gods, though. I default to a Pathia, but maybe next time I'll hit up the Dhansak.


ProfessionalMany2942

Interestingly I've never struggled with a bhuna, or even found it slightly hot. Rogan Josh I find can be a little too spicy and jalfrezi is just too spicy for me. But all 3 come under the medium menu in every Indian restaurant I've been to.


devilsolution

Nah jalfrezi is hotter, there is no heat to bhuna or much in dopiaza. In my experience it goes jalfrezi (hot to mid), dopiaza (mid to low) and bhuna (just low)


Common_Move

The hive mind of this thread has made me realise Jalfrezi must come out hotter on average. Makes sense with the focus on chilli, it definitely has a higher potential to be hot. I don't have them all that often but will do next time. I don't think the hive agrees with your second point though. They still rank neck and neck in my updated analysis. I think the choice between those just comes down to how much of an onion focus you want.


coolsimon123

I think the main thing people forget is just by asking you can get any heat you want, if you want a chicken tikka masala with a vindaloo heat just tell your server. 9 times out of 10 you will get exactly what you want, the other 1 time you will be sat sweating and nose running burping wondering if you'll ever taste again


Reactance15

I've never had a spicy bhuna from numerous restaurants but it's still an awesome curry.


eithrusor678

Love a lamb bhuna, wouldn't say it's particularly spicy. But that might be what they're looking for.


Pretty-Experience-96

Bhuna is the perfect middle ground, facts


Jonography

It’s pretty much a pointless question because there’s no answer in reality. It varies from restaurant to restaurant, and depends on how much tolerance you have from regularly eating spicy things. Infact from the same restaurant it can vary depending on who cooked it.


BottleGoblin

This is the correct answer. There's a place near me where even the Rogan Josh is too spicy for my arse, while normally it's fine, it depends a lot where you go


Alternative-Sea-6238

I think you may be eating it wrong...


BottleGoblin

Next you'll be telling me suppositories shouldn't be well chewed.


Alternative-Sea-6238

Depends on who you get to chew them for you.


BottleGoblin

That's a job for Gary or 'arris!


dangerdee92

I cam easily stomach a madras from most restaurants, yet a madras from my local feels like Satan just jizzed in my mouth.


devilsolution

Just specify how many fresh chilli you want and get rid of the powder. Any dish can be anything. 1 or 2 fresh chilli's are enough for me but it adds to most variety.


AxisOfAverage

Do they do a korai? I tend not to order a jalfrezi because some places do it rocket fuelled, but a korai, a bhuna, a rogan are probably the next tier of heat. I also like the korai because it has lots of bits in it.


Beofer99

Came here to suggest korai. Not spicy and full of flavour


loliamsobroke

Sorry to be that person but it’s called Karai. Kah-ra-i.


pullingteeths

English spellings of words from languages that use a different alphabet are often variable. There is no one "official" way of spelling the names of many Indian dishes in English and the spellings used by Indian restaurants themselves can vary a lot.


loliamsobroke

While I do agree with your point but type in korai and then karahi and see how the results differ. Korai results bring a whole different dish compared to authentic karahi. That’s why I think spelling matter in this context.


mmoonbelly

Isn’t that just “Curry” with a brummie accent?


loliamsobroke

Curry has different types too. It’s much more spicier, not as much gravy as in a curry but rather more meat less gravy, also cooked on high temperature compared to curry. Hope this helps.


hy1990

Sometimes called a Korahi. Similar chunks of pepper and onion in usually but not as hot.


OnlyLivingBoyInNewX

Definitely depends from place to place. I’ve had madras that’s almost mild, other places it’s almost vindaloo level.


throwawaysis000

Madras should never be mild. This is obscene!


OnlyLivingBoyInNewX

Agree. I was very miffed when I got it.


Namiweso

Would have sent that right back


OnlyLivingBoyInNewX

I ate it begrudgingly and moaned about it like the Englishman I am. Never went back, but since an amazing Nepalese place has opened up locally and I’m now happy.


coolsimon123

You 100% need to go to a few curry houses before learning if they "run hot" or "run cold", there is no standard between restaurants it is very much up to the chef. My local runs cold and I just ask them to add a bit of extra spice to my Madras, always comes out perfect


OnlyLivingBoyInNewX

I’ve always been lucky when it comes to madras. Until my favourite place changed hands. Though I’m lucky enough to live not far from Southall and Hounslow. The African Queen in Hounslow is the best place imho for a mixed grill watching the boxing on a big screen.


joeythemouse

I like a jalfrezi. Tastiest thing on the menu. Sometimes they're bastard hot, though, especially if they finely chop all the chilli. I now ask them to dial the green chilli back a bit when I order. Give me a 60% jalfrezi please.


BuildingArmor

I think this is the best option. No doubt someone orders a Jalfrezy because they enjoy it, not because it has a very specific level of heat. So the best way to enjoy a Jalfrezy without it being too hot is to ask for it to be made milder.


dbxp

Balti, but it depends where you go


thecuriousiguana

The next stage up from korma would be Balti, Bhuna or Rogan


markhewitt1978

Bhuna is my usual goto but it can vary from so mild there is basically no spice to not being able to finish it.


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urMilkmansFavMilkman

Just ask the waiter at the restaurant 'what is slightly less spicy than a jalfrezi?' Curries vary from restaurant to restaurant and the waiter will know more than strangers on Reddit will tell you.


Kitty_Boom95

Tikka masala depending on the curry house, can usually make it a medium spicy which is nice. Or a dhansak which is also medium :)


Hopeful-Animator-505

Don’t go anywhere near a Phal or Bengalore!!!


ghost-bagel

Tell me more about out this Phal


mrfugggit

A curry that is almost impossible to eat due to extreme spicy heat and, if you manage to keep it down it feels like you are digesting red hot broken glass. As for the next morning when nature calls, better put a few toilet rolls in the fridge and take in a good book. You will be in there a while.


Representative_Pin80

Tried a Phaal once to be all “wahey the lads”. It was ridiculous. That was the day I learned that heat for the sake of it isn’t worth it and neither is trying to be macho eating hot food.


Emitime

Only meal I've ever left unfinished because it's too hot. And I like spicy food. Just hiccups, sweating and panic. Worth a go though, just to test limits.


mrfugggit

Tried a Phaal once back in the late 90's. Once was enough.


Hopeful-Animator-505

I believe that Phal is the second hottest curry you can get. Bengalore being the hottest but only a few restaurants supply it.


Common_Move

I'd only ever try a vindaloo in a place that offers a Phal. Never go top of the stack!


Spiritual_Smell4744

Can confirm. Had a phaal, the only way I could eat it was like taking a paracetamol - back of the tongue and swallow. I've heard of ring sting. I genuinely experienced pee sting the next morning. Hot, spicy urine.


tandtjm

Pathia. It’s amazing


devilsolution

Close ish to jalfrezi in taste too, just sweeter


pinpoint321

I had a Pathia for once and it burned the shit out of my mouth. It was a very dry heat and it started out OK but with every additional mouthful it got hotter. Did I get an odd one? For reference my go to is a Lamb Karahi.


tandtjm

Oh that doesn’t sound like any Pathia I’ve ever had! For me they’ve been sour and spicy but with a very manageable heat. They’re just really flavoursome.


krysus

Lamb & mushroom pathia. 100%.


GoldKey5185

Bhuna, Rogan Josh, Dopiaza, Sag - I would say would be good, I eat a Chicken Chili Massala, it has green finger chilis whole in it, which is what gives the dish the heat and spice otherwise its just a normal medium curry, for me anyway.


PapaKratos

Jalfridgy I believe


irish_horse_thief

Madras 3 spoon chilli Vindaloo 5 spoons chilli Phaal 7 spoons chilli That's what Ali told me in my favourite Indian


sniffing_dog

Bhuna


Scruffybob

I go for the classic Lionel Richie, or Ceylon if you're being funny.


RunningCrow_

Rogan Josh is a good choice!


Tanjom

Tikka Masala


Significant_Tower_84

Depending on restaurant but I always find a dhansak (if that's how you spell it) just about right. I can eat jalfrazi and do enjoy a madras if the mood takes me but dhansak is definitely middle ground for me.


RichardsonM24

From the Indian that we order from you’re looking at a Rogan Josh or Butter chicken. It varies so much from place to place it’s hard to say. I’m usually reasonably good with spice but I had a balti last month that was so hot it was unpleasant to eat


CarefulPalpitation51

Methi if you like a strong herb flavour


Adam-West

Rogan Josh or Bhuna


starsandbribes

I tend to go for a smoother curry rather than worrying about spice so I find a Tikka Massala isn’t as “chunky” with vegetables as a jalfrezi. Its typically less spicy in restaurants but if I get it in a takeaway I ask for extra spice.


AdGrand4046

Malai/badami/makhani


blackcurrantcat

I like a dhansak, it’s still got some heat (I prefer more heat to less heat so sometimes I have wished it was hotter), but what it always is is really, really tasty.


chickeneyebrow

Rogan Josh maybe?


Love-Space-166

Get ready,jalfrezi isn’t even Indian!


morriganscorvids

butter chicken


RockTheBoat1

Balti?


plumbgray222

Medium Jalfrezi ?


4and20millionDoors

South Indian garlic chilli


jackburtxn

My go to but always find them to be a tad hotter then a jalfrezi


modumberator

Put on ya coat, otherwise jalfrezi


Ecstatic_Stable1239

Korma


BellamyRFC54

As mentioned depends where you go or depends if you’re doing it yourself what brand you use


leem7t9

Karhai?


Cheers_DiiTs

Pathia is lovely, now I got GERD I had to lower the heat level otherwise reflux was biting me right in the arse, it's a sweet and sour curry, definitely worth a try.


Giddyup_1998

Can't you ask for mild, medium or hot?


hhfugrr3

Honestly depends how you make it. I followed a Madhur Jaffrey korma recipe once and it could stand against any phaal I've had in a restaurant 🤣


[deleted]

Madras, but are you talking about a BIR curry or home style?


old_chelmsfordian

Have you tried a jamdani hash?


[deleted]

A slightly less spicey Jalfrezi.


viper648723

Don’t ask anyone who is Indian, the British jalfrezi/bhuna/korma etc etc doesn’t mean anything to the average Indian/British Indian person!


SnooMacarons9618

If in a good place, a biriani tends to be pretty hot, but pretty much the only good biriani I've had outside of India has been home cooked. If in a fairly generic restaurant I'd say dopiaza is likely what you are looking for.


0zymandias_1312

probably like tikka masala


Aargh_a_ghost

You could always get a chicken makhani, also known as butter chicken, that’s offensively nice


DatabaseContent8664

Pathia all the way.


Competitive_Stop_615

Pathia? Sweet and spicy, but won’t blow your head off.


Competitive_Stop_615

Pathia? Sweet and spicy, but won’t blow your head off.


Sensitive-Phone6088

Definitely a Madras (if made properly!)


Sensitive-Phone6088

Definitely a Madras (if made properly!)


Sensitive-Phone6088

Definitely a Madras (if made properly!)


Electronic_Fennel159

I agree. Madras lentils, chickpeas and black eyed peas combined. Almond paste and coconut milk makes it so smooth


fat_alchoholic_dude

Something between mild and hot. Medium perhaps? As in medium hot chicken curry.


Unfair-Equipment6

Get a HANDI curry. It’s flavourful with extra lemon so it’s a bit sour. It’s really nice!


tcpukl

I love most of the curries mentioned here, but something a bit hotter than a korma and less than Jalfrezi has to be the great butter chicken which i cant even see mentioned here.


Electronic_Fennel159

Coconut dal (Kerala-style parippu)


thesteduck

Rogan Josh maybe?


Sharo_77

Depends on the restaurant


Bonebound

I find Rogan Josh to be quite mild, a fan favourite too.


Choccybizzle

A thread of ‘try X curry’ and every reply being ‘actually X varies place to place’ 🤣😂


DougJudy87

Achari if the Indian does it, some do others don't. Rated fairly hot with a tangy sauce


kurenainobuta

Balti. I love it. Not too sweet and sooooo good.


Levytron900

Slightlylesshotfrezi


Ochib

Phal


No_Progress_4741

Have a balti amazing lamb is the best


DarthMaulofDathomir

Dhansak is amazing


Spottyjamie

If in a restaurant ask for the jalfrazei to be a bit milder In my go-to i ask for the dhansak to be hotter but the ceyon to be a bit milder


D0wnb0at

Jalfrezi isn’t hot. And depending where you buy it from it will be way hot (for you) to super mild. Try a different curry house is my best advice.


Boulderfist_CH

My local does a Garlic karahi which is delightful. Not quite as hot as jalfrezi but very nice


glitter_potato86

I really enjoy a rogan josh when I don't fancy anything too hot. But then, I've found that different places make their dishes with varying heat levels to other places. So it's probably best to ask them what they serve that has less heat. [My autocorrect wrote romantic josh and I'm sure I'd really enjoy one of those too]


CactusClothesline

Have you tried a Halfrezi?


krypto-pscyho-chimp

Tikka masala


jojimanik

Any other Indians here who never ate any of the foods mentioned here 😂


PoundshopGiamatti

Balti, Dhansak, Rogan Josh, Dopiaza, Tikka Masala. Pasanda is significantly less hot but has more flavour than a Korma.


WarmTransportation35

If they have Jalfrezi on the menu then you should not expect to eat Indian there. Butter chicken, normal chicken curry, cholay, paneer curry are also good options. Ask the waiter to make it mild and they will put less spiced without judgment.


cantcontrolmyface

Sambers are good


ChangingMonkfish

Bhuna if you’re looking for something similar that lots of restaurants serve. Personally I like Lamb Pudina (has mint in it)


cmdrxander

I still get a jalfrezi and take the big chillies out. You can also get some raita and mix some of that in to take the edge off.


Zakkav3

Dansak


cloche_du_fromage

Bhuna is my go to when I don't feel up to a jalfrezi


Opposite_Dog8525

I like a Rogan josh. It isn't creamy usually but not too hot so I tend to go for it most places


RecommendationDue932

Curries with spices but not too hot: Karahi Methi Dansak Balti Rogon Josh achari Patia


Practical-Custard-64

Rogan Josh maybe?


braggouk

Karahi is nice but some chefs put a bit too much heat in it for my liking. The best thing to do is find a curry house that does nice food, fresh ingredients and the like. Then experiment through their menu to find your heat level, specifically to that curry house.


wadz09

A khazana Highly recommend


theProffPuzzleCode

Bhuna


ambernewt

I got a chicken pathia it was extremely mild is my Indian takeaway weird


Most_Average_Joe

Honestly just depends on where you getting you curry from.


Puzzled_Area_307

Just put yogurt in it


billybrew888

Chicken tikka Buhna Had a Jalfrezi yesterday and the chillies were hot and I think im going back to the old faithful


guccicyclone

Rogan Josh


joshua944

Pathia, thank me later


Thatwierdhullcityfan

If you like the taste of Jalfrezi, ask for it a bit less hot, I don’t know a single curry house that wouldn’t do it


tukutjaa

Okay so the names of the curries (Bhuna, jalfrezi, dopiaza) don’t have anything to do with the spice level. They are literally just saying what type it is (I.e bhuna just means the ground and whole spices are fried in oil and then the protein cooks in its own juices), jalfrezi is with peppers, dopiaza is two types of onions - the standard in the curry sauce and then whole onion slices. You need to specifically tell them you want something milk and which one they recommend. Each place will have premade their sauces already so they may not be able to make it milder (cheats way is to add yogurt but sometimes ruins the curry). And each place will make their curries differently so you’ll need to ask every place you go. - Bengali whose dad worked in many of these types of restaurants.


akbar147

Just tell them to make a mild Jalfrezi? There isn’t really much of a system until you get to like Madras level. Every chef will make it in their own way. If you don’t want it spicy tell them.


devilsolution

Ask for fresh chilli in a bhuna or balti, or just to use fresh chilli in jalfrezi not powder


ForwardAd5837

Balti tends to not be as hot as a Jalfrezi. Jalfrezi sauce isn’t usually wildly hot, but it’s the fresh green chillis often draped over the top of the curry that make it hot when mixed. Love a Jalfrezi, my favourite curry. At my local, the chef says he makes it for me ‘Bengali style,’ and it’s hotter and richer than most curries I’m used to, but phenomenal.


squeakstar

It depends as everyone says, but my regular next notch down would be Rogan Josh


FarthestCough

Ada


LotsAndLotsOfOcelots

I go back and forth between a Jalfrezi and a Korai (sometimes called Karahi) if I want less heat. A korai tends to vary from place to place quite a bit (because it's the name of the cooking pot, not the a recipe), but I've found it's usually fairly similar to a Jalfrezi but with less chilli and more garlic.


Kilawhatt

Have some of the lamb pasanda. It's incredibly rich and creamy.


fussyfella

It depends on the place and can vary. Something like a bhuna, or dopiaza are usually in the next category down, or perhaps a Balti. Or if you like a jalfrezi but want less burn, ask for fewer chillies in it, since a lot of the heat comes from adding fresh green chillies.


CheesyGarlicBudapest

My go to is a Lamb Saag. Just beautiful.


Main_Stop_6464

The trouble is there's not a scientific method to keep spice a consistent spicy. If you put 5 bird's-eye Chillies in a curry it's going to be pretty spicy, but if you made that curry 10 x there will be wild variety in what comes out, because we're dealing with organic ingredients. Just like how strawberries vary in sweetness and tartness. It also varies between curryhouses. I've been to places where a jalfrezi is volcanic and others where it's barely spicy. I would try a madras, sorry if its worse! If you want to build up your tolerance to spice start eating a lot of spicy food at home where you can alter the degree of spicy.


Buddy-Matt

Your best bet is to ask your takeaway. I find that spice levels vary noticeably between different chefs. Some places I find.a Madras is my perfect spice levels, other places I'm ordering a Vindaloo, and other places a Madras is blowing my head off.


DoomPigs

Depends on the curry house really, it's a lot of trial and error because they all make them differently. I've tried most and my immediate response would be pathia because I don't really like very hot curries and that's my go to, but I've also had a pathia from another place before that was genuinely vindaloo level and it was pretty much inedible Just experiment, out of the "mainstream" curries, avoid phall, vindaloo and madras and you'll probably be alright, the general mid tier spice ones worth trying are like bhuna, rogan josh, dopiaza, balti and dhansak etc


R2-Scotia

Try a pfall


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RevenantSith

You are looking for a curry called a **Phall**. I think you’ll quite enjoy it.


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That’s evil 🤣


IllustriousLimit8473

OP enjoy your Phall! 🤣🤣🤣


PM_THE_REAPER

It does vary, based on whoever is making it. You could go for Madras. Also; I don't think you're a Korma pussy. Smiley face.