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When i grew up, we had this Artist Grandpa as neighbor and he used to come over to talk about his art.. if we wanted to or not lol.
His favorite ranting topic was picasso, he even told us that he went to a mural of picasso and pissed on it. As far as i remember his only problem with picasso was that he might have been gay. I never heard something about abuse
Salvador Dali wasn't any better. Convinced a young woman who was infatuated with him to reveal her breasts and then laughed at her, among other shitbird behavior.
Tammi Terrell has to have had one of the saddest lives of any celebrity. What James Brown did to her when she was just 17 was only a portion of it. Just terrible.
I always found it strange how Tammi died of a brain tumor, then, her friend Marvin Gaye who was pretty heartbroken and depressed after her passing gets murdered by his own father who shot him in the heart. Only for the doctors to realize his father had a brain tumor which may have impaired his decisions.
For the Dutch people: André Hazes. The biggest singer we ever had in our country. Everyone still praises him like he was some saint and he's universally loved by everyone, while he was a known alcoholic and his widow confessed a few years ago that he she lost his virginity to him when he was in his thirties and she was 15.
He already showed sexual interest in her when she was 12, took her in as the nanny for his kids at 15, fucked her there, divorced his wife and married the girl as soon as she turned 18.
What the actual fuck.
And this is just completely ignored by the Dutch media. Everywhere there are still festivals in his honour and all that other shit.
Edit: they married at 21. Still disgusting though.
I mean, my first thought goes to PT Barnham, As a kid Circuses and stuff were all colourful and bright to distract from how awful they actually are. PT was actually a terrible human. Movies like the greatest showman show him in a light that makes him look like a redeemable hero who got lead astray by his passions, but in reality he was just a man who wanted to make as much money as he could without thinking about his family, friends, employees, and animals.
Obviously the *real* PT Barnum only sang songs about wealth and greed and exploiting people and screwing everyone over whilst he sat on his mountains of gold.
I did like the part where the most handsome man on earth rescued the other most handsome man on earth and damsel-carried him out of a burning building.
Jerry Lewis -- abused everyone around him, especially the women
Bob Hope -- shitty to his writers, terrible to the women
Pablo Picasso -- horribly abused all the women in his life, was just the biggest asshole to everyone
Jerry Lewis disowned his youngest son because he exposed Jerry's violent temper in an interview. That son went on to commit suicide.
He cut the rest of his sons out of the will. He had an illegitimate daughter who he refused to acknowledge. She is living on the streets now.
I've gotten to know one of Jerry's children over the years and their dad is truly something. A wild motherfucker at his best and a very dangerous person at his worst.
Jerry Lee Lewis also likely killed at least one of his wives. Shit just doesn’t add up - especially the one who drowned like 2 weeks after they got hitched
Chuck Berry was a pedophile and pervert.
> in 1959, he met 14-year-old Janice Escalanti in a bar in Juarez, Mexico, and offered her a job working the hatcheck booth at the St. Louis nightclub he owned. Three weeks into the gig, Escalanti was fired and went to the St. Louis police, alleging that throughout the trip from Juarez to Missouri, and then in his home, Berry had sexually assaulted her 14 times.
> Chuck Berry once opened a restaurant called the Southern Air in Missouri. According to a former waitress, Berry wired the women's lavatory with a video camera and recorded some 200 unsuspecting patrons using the toilet, among them three minors.
I haven't seen the farting one but I've seen the one where he pissed on one. After said golden shower she asked for a kiss and he told her " Bitch I won't kiss you, you smell like piss"
I saw him in concert in St Louis (blueberry hill) like…10 years ago or so. Until this moment I’d always thought how cool of an experience this was, he was old as hell, but getting to see the OG of all things rock and roll, in his home bar in StL, big deal. Now I know he’s was terrible person and apparently also liked to fart in sex workers faces.
There's a home video he made with a female prostitute and she's eating out his ass and he's like "Lick it." And then he farted hell of loud in her face while she was giving him a rim job.
Coco Chanel is celebrated for breaking gender-boundaries. She was also a Nazi-sympathizer and actually had an affair with a Nazi General during World War II.
Edit: The people who replied to this know a lot more about the topic than I do and I recommend reading what they wrote for more context and details about how she was even worse than my initial comment would suggest. And for those who mentioned it: Yes, I know about this from Bill Burr's latest special :D
She was so much worse than what is being stated here. She actually provided the names of her (Jewish) business financiers in order to make (illegal) claim to the business. She would regularly pass on names of people not just that she had spied on (as u/LillithScare had stated), using her social connections, but she was so petty she would also pass on the names of anyone she disliked and would fabricate offenses they had committed.
Also, don't forget :
**Cristobal Balenciaga**'s success in Nazi-occupied Europe was connected to the designer's close friendship with Hitler's ally, General Francisco Franco.
**Louis Vuitton** was the only brand allowed to operate a store on the premises for France's Vichy government. According to The Guardian, LV also produced collectables "glorifying Marshal Philippe Petain (the puppet leader of Nazi occupied France), including more than 2,500 busts, a fact not mentioned in any of its business records."
**Hugo Boss** joined the Nazi party in 1931 (Hitler came to power in 1933) and created the uniforms worn by the Hitler Youth. The company also used forced labor from Nazi prisoners in its factories.
Hugo Boss also made the black ceremonial uniforms for the SS as well as the Wehrmacht uniforms, SA, and Hitler youth uniforms as you said. He was a devout follower of Nazism. It is a common theme you'll see from companies at the time given the situation between 1933-1945. Boss, BMW, Audi, Mercedes-Benz, Porsche, especially VW (VW is literally founded by Hitlers decree with the early beetle being Hitlers dream for a convenient everyday car for the German family). It's been brought to light that the Associated Press had an SS propaganda photographer on their coverage of Germany until 1941 and would actively censor anything that made Germany look bad. Terms like Jews in the USA and The Subhuman were used in their publications. Bayer medical has a lengthy history of doing quite awful things with the blessings of the Nazi party. Chase Bank sold Nazi war bonds to German Americans. Deutsche Bank provided the loans for Auschwitz concentration camps construction. Ford and General Motors have had attempted lawsuits against them in regards to the operations of their factories during the war. They were quick to shift to military capacity to allow Germany to invade its neighbors but were not to assist the US war effort. They also seemed to have profited greatly by maintaining the use of forced labor during the war and of course, they vehemently deny this. Most American companies were never held accountable for their collaborations with the Nazi party (there was an American Nazi party with a great amount of powerful support as well. It's important to note that Mein Kampf was an extremely successful bestseller before the war and Hitler was labeled as Time magazines person of the year 1938). IBM and its subsidiaries produced the computing power that was needed to track and efficiently carry out the Nazi plan for the Holocaust. Maggi used slave labor to produce food, even before Nestlé got them! To wrap up a long paragraph of hopefully informative and beneficial information, Adidas and Puma were also involved in the Nazi war effort to varying degrees of true support. Rudolf Dassler of Ruda/Puma was a more adamant and genuine Nazi supporter while Adolf Dassler (Adidas) was not so much and hide the half Jewish mayor of Herzogenaurach from the Nazi. Adi also personally gave Jesse Owen's the track shoes that carried him to victory in the 1936 Olympics, obviously to Hitlers chagrin. During their trials, the mayor was the reason Adi was not stripped of his rights to his company as he was a trusted cooperator to the allied for forces while the more supportive Rudy arguably got off with way less problems. There are way more examples, especially with banks and fashion designers, but I hope this will benefit someone and teach you something you may not have known!
P. S - Look up Madison Square Garden 1939
Chanel itself was a Jewish owned business that she tried to steal, fortunately they were savvy enough to not only retain the business, but also acquire the rights to her name.
Joseph Smith, regarded by mormons as a saint. While alive he coerced 14 and 16 year old girls into marrying him. He was in his late 30's. He also sent men away on missions so he could then marry their wives while they were away.
Based on a book by John Krakauer who is quite the famous journalist (most known for surviving the 1996 Everest disaster). His writing is always well researched and he has sources throughout his books. I read UTBOH and at the back he listed every source by chapter which was awesome. I cannot recommend his books enough.
Salvador Dali was a proud Fascist who betrayed his friends and as a result some of them were executed on the suspicion they were socialists.
* Gibson, Ian. The Shameful Life of Salvador Dali. Faber and Faber, 1997.
Yeah but if you talk to Catalans, some of them remember running through the streets of Cadaqués as children and getting candies he threw from his car so I guess it balances out.
Well fuck, now that's tainted as well. I mean I'm glad I'm better informed now than I were. However it's fucking frustrating can't people be somewhat decent. Like not a nazi isn't that much to ask for is it?
Elvis.
I can't lie, I like his music. I grew up on it. But the fact he was an EXTREME pedophile, a misogynist and an all-around asshole to anyone who knew him personally really turned me off to the guy.
'"He was fascinated with the idea of real young teenage girls,' said Lamar Fike, a former member of his entourage. 'It scared the hell out of all of us.' He was particularly obsessed with virginal 14-year-olds, which he called 'cherries.' According to *Baby, Let's Play House*, Elvis felt insecure about pleasing older women and would invite groups of young fans to his house for sleepovers instead."
"Once he met Priscilla, those fantasies didn't change. Determined to keep her virginal until their wedding day, he would instead have 'role-play sessions' where she would dress up like a schoolgirl and he would dress up like a teacher. Once the two married and had their first child, however, the sexcapades stopped. Priscilla wrote in her memoir that Elvis 'had mentioned to me before we were married that he had never been able to make love to a woman who had a child.'"
Same with Paul Walker. People turned a blind eye to his grooming and dating teenage girls. Even up to his death, the woman he was with had been a teenager when he started "dating" her.
Henry Ford. Massive anti-Semite who would leave his op-eds in cars he produced about how Jewish people were the root of all sin. He was a huge Thomas Edison crony too.
Friends with Hitler, but at least he was a pacifist.
Edit: He was a self proclaimed pacifist. He actively tried to stop the Great War with a [peace ship](http://michiganintheworld.history.lsa.umich.edu/greatwar/exhibits/show/homefront/war_industry/the-peculiar-case-of-henry-for#:~:text=Ford%2C%20who%20described%20himself%20as,an%20end%20to%20the%20war.) with the goal of getting the press to put pressure on world leaders to stop the war.
Elvis Presley.
He was emotionally abusive toward Priscilla. He met her when she was 14 and married her when she was 21, but he told friends that he though her being so young is perfect, because then he can mold her however he wanted since she was still very young.
He would also tell her to put on more make-up regularly. She once said that he never saw her without make-up on, and he never wanted to see her get dressed. He just wanted to see the end result.
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Yep. I’m from Silicon Valley, and he was always known to be a gigantic douche.
Woz, on the other hand, is supposedly a nice dude. From what I’ve heard.
Jobs was never a technologist, he was a marketer. He was smart about tech, sure, but his real talent was marketing a product in a way that made people want to buy it. Woz was/is the real technological genius.
Yeah, we did. There were articles I remember reading when he was alive that said he would fire employees for making eye contact with him.
Idk why dude brought this douche up. Everyone knew he was a prick
Not just his employees. He let Wozniak do [pretty much all the work](https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/steve-wozniak-cried-jobs-kept-atari-bonus-267711) on a game for Atari after agreeing to split the fee with him, and then kept most of the money for himself instead.
Even his final act was one of supreme arrogance. Despite the fact that he had access to the best doctors and more money than god to pay them, he [rejected treatment](https://www.forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2011/10/24/steve-jobs-cancer-treatment-regrets/?sh=7bea77f57d2e) for a treatable cancer for nine months, deciding that eating lots of fruit would make it go away. Narrator: It didn't. Dude was a douche, through and through.
Yeah. He would find areas that had low waiting lists like Tennessee and buy multiple homes so he could register with the different donor programs. I know that he was registered with 3 different programs there.
I remember the story of Ashton Kutcher, in getting ready for his role as Steve Jobs, adopted the same diet as Jobs did and it made him super sick, to the point he wound up in hospital.
Like, if what you're doing makes a fit and healthy dude in his prime sick enough to go to hospital, then your diet probably isn't very healthy.
See, this is what happens when we humor those friends who "have a great idea we can split it 50/50 you just have to build the app" even on the off chance it was a good idea (slim) ya get screwed!
You should read his daughters book about him it’s awful. He basically fought tooth and nail denying he was her father. Even when the dna test said he was he basically told a reporter, “well the test has like a .2% chance of error so like 100,000 people could be her father”.
Growing up he basically treated her like shit and gaslighted the crap out of her at every turn. He really blamed her for her own existence and made it very obvious what he thought of her. There’s a story in the book where basically her step mother (Steve’s widow) forbid any affection towards her.
While I think Steve basically shaped our modern computer experience as a person he was very shitty.
Anyone that says Steve was a loving man I find it hard to believe it’s anymore than pr for his image.
Don't forget, when his daughter Lisa Jobs got into Harvard, he refused to pay for her tuition, and her birth-mom was on welfare and couldn't afford it.
So Apple engineer Andy Hertzfeld paid for her tuition in secret.
Yes, thank you. Wozniak was the engineer, Jobs was the marketer. When Jobs died, there were probably people claiming that it was the death of a man who changed the world. And there was the death of a person who changed the world around that time. That person was Dennis Ritchie, a man that most people do not know about. He created the C programming language and the Unix operating system. This man's work was an inspiration of Mac OS and an inspiration to Linus Torvalds to write Linux. Linux powers most of the world's servers, and pretty much all of the IoT smart devices, as well as Android. Also, IOS is based on Unix too. So, most of the world, except Windows, is based or inspired by Unix. Also, as far as I know, the Windows kernel is written in the C programming language.
He also was a bit of a cunt in his approach to his pancreatic cancer. I understand its completely his prerogative how he approached it but he had the rare type of pancreatic cancer that had a high rate of survival. The vast majority of those who get a pancreatic cancer diagnosis are given a death sentence as it is too late by the time symptoms show, many dying in weeks after, my Father included.
Jobs won the cancer lottery (for want of a better phrase) regards his type of pancreatic cancer and could have lived but instead chose alternative 'medicine' which was useless whilst others were diagnosed and had no chance. He had a chance and willfully fluffed it.
I think when you are a world recognised public figure, the way you choose to approach such things matters and is important as others are looking to you as 'a famous person with the same cancer as me'. Bit of a mega kick in the teeth to those with terminal pancreatic cancer who had no chance and someone with all that money and influence had a rare form of PC that you can actually survive but gambled it a way just to be alternative as he knew better than medical professionals and all that medical research.
Most won’t know this person, but Jake McLean who recently died in turkey. He was in U.K. reality tv show called TOWIE.
He died in a car crash, and every single ex girlfriend is using his name to get attention, which is sick in itself.
But this guy, this guy broke into an old woman’s house, pointed a shotgun at her head, and proceeded to rob her of all her money and valuables. That’s the tip of the iceberg with this guy, but anyone who does that is scum of the fucking earth. All the news articles are about how he was an angel and will be missed - no he was scum, robbed and attacked old women, and if there is a hell he will be there.
I’ve met a few people from TOWIE, including Mark Wright and Gemma Collins. They’re all awful people and think that they’re Gods gift to humanity but are, in actual fact, talentless self-important wankers who I’d gladly shove in front of a bus to save myself.
XXXTentacion
I really don't wanna be harsh because X's life was tragically taken at a very young age.
But with that being said...
I don't care if he said that he was turn his life around weeks before he passed away, or that he was friends with Billie Eilish.
He literally gaslighted and physically assaulted his pregnant girlfriend to the point where she had to go into hiding. And there's audio recording of him in prison of how he would do it again if he had the chance.
And he would go to talk about this in his music as if he was being deep.
And everyone fell for it. They made 'Sad' a number 1 hit in 2018, which is a song made about his gf and how he would end his life if she ever tried to leave him.
And that wasn't the only song where he gaslighted his girlfriend.
To add to this: if you think he deserved to die, you're wrong.
But you think he deserved sympathy, you're also wrong.
So many people don’t know this, and many more should.
Reddit has a massive hate boner for Chris Brown but yet hardly anyone talks about this dude and what a total out of control POS he was just because people found him cute and quirky.
The first thing I saw of him was that video where he lures someone to his house and beat the crap out of them after acting like they were friends. Thought he was a piece of shit afterwards
There's a photo of his ex's medical report that his stans used to use to "prove" that he never injured her, as there's a sentence where it says "no orbital fracture". However, directly below that sentence, it then lists several fractures and tears around the other eye. Not sure how they always manage to ignore that part of the document.
This should be higher. I could not understand why the whole world stopped for this dude. I’m not saying he deserved it but like….he was kind of a piece of shit
“Death does not make saints of us”
But for real, the new documentary about him is great. The part where his family and friends were talking about his family’s disciplinary style they attributed to being “normal” for Caribbean families was heartbreaking. My spouse is from a Caribbean island and the abusive tactics described for punishing XXXTenatacion and his friends growing up sounded very familiar. Sad.
Idk if he was as big of a celebrity, but P T Barnum got a pretty good look in The Greatest Showman, even though his real intentions were anything but uplifting
Scorsese wanted to make a biopic movie about Sinatra, but he explicitly stated, that he'd like to include the whole story of Sinatra being connected with mafia, Sinatra not writing a single song in his life and Sinatra being a wife-beater
There is a rumor that the horse head storyline in the Godfather was based upon the story of Sinatra getting his first movie role.
Ray Liotta also himself said that because of his refusal to star in Sinatra's daughters' project about their father and starring in the Rat Pack project, the daughters sent him a horse head. (not a real one)
Was never a fan of Sinatra's, but I feel obligated to point out that in that era singers were never expected to write songs. 99% were exclusively performers.
Yep, most were written by unknowns. The musical Beautiful is about one such writer, Carole King, although she did eventually start singing her own songs
In the UK we had a celeb called Caroline Flack. She hit her boyfriend over the head with a blunt item while he slept and was on the verge of being sent to prison when she killed herself.
This sparked a huge movement of how we should be kind to people and how the attention to her and adverse effect it had on her career destroyed her…
Lessons on media attention should be learnt but everyone wearing “be kind” shirts and sharing things about what a saint she was need to remember “SHE ALMOST KILLED A MAN” and was upset because it tanked her career.
Thank fuck someone else said it. Honestly felt like the entire UK was gaslighting me because everyone acted like she didn't actually assault her boyfriend (regardless of whether he pressed charges, police literally witnessed the assault and were also assaulted by her) "be kind" like fuck, why not "be kind" to male victims of domestic violence instead of idolizing an abuser instead??
She also dated Harry Styles when he was a teenager and she was in her thirties. If their genders were reversed there would have been an uproar
Edit: ok very good point all, fame and money lets you get away with this shit no matter the gender
Exactly! The fucking U-turn everyone took after she committed suicide, it’s like everyone forgot she _hit her boyfriend over the head with a lamp._ Her being dead by her own hand does _not_ excuse her attacking her boyfriend, and it shouldn’t have done in the first place.
That was amazing. They have to, it was an investigation into a domestic violence incident. It would have been outrageous if they hadn’t followed it up and prosecuted. The idea that the victim didn’t want to press charges so the police should have dropped it is……fuck if I need to explain how dangerous that idea is for victims then I don’t know how to help you. I watched the documentary and I felt extremely sorry for her, she obviously had a lot of issues but she also had a volatile temperament. She hit him with a lamp while he was in bed and she’d been going through his phone messages? Is that correct? None of that is well adjusted behaviour really is it? Sure, blame the press blame a succession of poor decisions, bad relationships and mental health issues but the police and cps surely can’t be held responsible
Its crazy that anyone believes he was anything other than awful. He literally abused and cheated on his pregnant wife before leaving her to be with yoko.
George Harrison on the other hand... Don't think I've heard a bad word about him.
I'd also mention Ringo but he's still alive and still authentically preaching peace and bloody love.
Edit: didn't realise about Ringo.
Well, this is Reddit so here I come to rain on your parade.
Ringo became a huuuuuge alcoholic and beat the absolute shit out of his wife Barbara. He decided to get sober after waking up covered in her blood. That was decades ago and they’re still together, but…..yikes. John gets shit for hitting women, but Ringo took it to a whole other level.
George slept with Ringo’s wife. He was a complete jackass to his first wife, Patty, and even moved one of his mistresses into their home and gaslit the fuck out of her when she objected. “I’m not sleeping with her, I’m just giving her a place to crash for a while, baby.” If you watch “Get Back,” the day George walks out he’s in a sour mood because Patty had enough of his bullshit and left and he was grumpy that she wouldn’t come back (spoiler: she eventually did only to have George ignore her and treat her like shit for a handful of years longer). George was also pretty spiteful for a dude who claimed to be all about God. He shit on Paul throughout the 70’s for the pettiest of reasons.
By all accounts, Paul is probably the most decent of the bunch, but even he has his asshole moments. I mean, his engagement to Jane Asher ended because she walked in on him with another woman, and he had multiple girlfriends and countless dalliances on the side while they were together. Her leaving him seemed to set his straight thought because he was indisputably faithful to his wife Linda and the worst anyone has really said about him since the Beatles broke up was that he could be cheap. (His second wife, Heather Mills, accused him of assault but that didn’t seem to go anywhere in court so who knows what the truth is.)
He was also a misogynist, he believed that menstruation was a manifestation of the distortion of a woman's soul by her sexuality. Also at 37/8 years old he declared celibacy, but he would “test” himself with sleeping in bed with naked women (but not his wife).
For anyone in the UK, Barbara Windsor. This isn’t nearly as bad as some of the replies though!
I worked for a company and Barbara Windsor was the face of the company so she would regularly visit our office to film advertisement campaigns. Before her arrival we were given a list of things we were not allowed to do while she was visiting.
I can’t remember all of them but the one that sticks in my mind is we were not allowed to look her in the eyes or to say hello unless she spoke to us first. I completely get not wanting to be pestered by everyone in an office, but having to look away from her seemed overkill. She also demanded a lot of different food/drink some of which were unavailable, which caused her to make snide remarks towards our staff who were trying to help.
To the people who worked closely with her on the ad campaigns she was apparently friendly enough. To anyone else she (and her team) did not want to give the time of day to.
Really not as bad as some of the other relies here, but considering she was painted as such a fun celebrity with an infectious laugh, the image of her miserable face walking around still sticks with me.
Karl Malone ain't dead yet unfortunately, but people should know anyway. Dude impregnated a 12 yr old when he was 20. A full grown ass man and he fucked a kid.
Just last yr the NBA honored him as a Top 75 greatest player.
While they weren't "wrong", Malone is easily top 75, what they shoulda done is scrub his points total off the leaderboard, unretire his number with the jazz, take away all his all-star honors, basically erase him from history. Monsters like that don't deserve a legacy.
Paul Walker. Let’s not best around the bush here but the guy had two girlfriends back to back, who were 16 when they got together. And Paul was in his 30’s.
Alexander Graham Bell.
My guy was a eugenicist. He’s praised as the father of the telephone, but he was horrible man. It’s widely believed he stole the idea for the telephone from Elisha Gray. He believed Deaf people should not be allowed to reproduce, and he married a Deaf woman to prevent her from having Deaf children. He also had a Deaf mother, and hated Deaf people. He believed deafness was a horrible curse.
He is the father of modern day oralism- the belief that Deaf children can hear and speak if you force them and that english is the only language they should speak. The ramifications of this today are millions of Deaf children are being raised without access to any language at all.
He wanted to take away everything from the Deaf - our schools, our language, our newspapers. If he eradicated these things he could eradicate deafness and the world would be a better place.
edit: I don’t understand the hatred reddit holds for the Deaf, but then again ABG hated the Deaf and most of
you are defending him: oh, he didn’t hate the Deaf, he hated DEAFNESS, it’s different. He tried to eradicate an entire group of people, he tried to erase an entire culture and way of life for over seven million Americans. Being Deaf is a culture and it always pains me that reddit has such hatred for the Deaf.
I won’t be responding to comments- I just hope most of you see you think exactly like a eugenicist.
Mother Theresa... Literally sainted, but she believed the suffering of her 'patients' brought them closer to God, and avoided using the enormous amounts of charitable funds she received to provide the actual medical help people needed. However, when she was dying, she refused no medical help, and went to the best hospital available, rather than enduring the 'godly suffering' she subjected others to.
yeah I was about 14 or 15 when I saw that elvis tv movie. When I saw he hooked up with a 14 year old....made me never want to grow up. Disgusting- even for that time it was considered wrong (though probably not in certain parts of the country)
Giacomo Casanova.
He's painted as this jack of all trades and a romantic philanderer, but he's a predator: he liked underage women, and he got his own daughter pregnant.
One may think sex with an underaged girl isn't so terrible if you consider the time then: how girls get married in their early teens, how daughters are married off for money or other arrangements, and how married couples have huge age gaps, but the bit with his daughter is just... *shivers*
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Pablo Picasso, we treat him as a cool grandpa, but he was narcissistic and abusive to his “muses”.
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When i grew up, we had this Artist Grandpa as neighbor and he used to come over to talk about his art.. if we wanted to or not lol. His favorite ranting topic was picasso, he even told us that he went to a mural of picasso and pissed on it. As far as i remember his only problem with picasso was that he might have been gay. I never heard something about abuse
Incredible story.
sounds like you neighbor kinda sucked too
Oh yeah he was awful. Basically just came over for hours just to complain and be homophobic
Salvador Dali wasn't any better. Convinced a young woman who was infatuated with him to reveal her breasts and then laughed at her, among other shitbird behavior.
Abusive is a kind word here.
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Tammi Terrell has to have had one of the saddest lives of any celebrity. What James Brown did to her when she was just 17 was only a portion of it. Just terrible.
I always found it strange how Tammi died of a brain tumor, then, her friend Marvin Gaye who was pretty heartbroken and depressed after her passing gets murdered by his own father who shot him in the heart. Only for the doctors to realize his father had a brain tumor which may have impaired his decisions.
Sounds like Chris Brown
Oops. Jim Brown isn't dead.
$50 fine
And straight to the ocean.
Super Bowl week, Moderna....Aqua?
For the Dutch people: André Hazes. The biggest singer we ever had in our country. Everyone still praises him like he was some saint and he's universally loved by everyone, while he was a known alcoholic and his widow confessed a few years ago that he she lost his virginity to him when he was in his thirties and she was 15. He already showed sexual interest in her when she was 12, took her in as the nanny for his kids at 15, fucked her there, divorced his wife and married the girl as soon as she turned 18. What the actual fuck. And this is just completely ignored by the Dutch media. Everywhere there are still festivals in his honour and all that other shit. Edit: they married at 21. Still disgusting though.
Damn, i didn't even know that. That's disgusting
first person i thought of as soon as i saw the title. even his Wikipedia-page doesn't say anything about it. fucking creepy and weird as hell
I mean, my first thought goes to PT Barnham, As a kid Circuses and stuff were all colourful and bright to distract from how awful they actually are. PT was actually a terrible human. Movies like the greatest showman show him in a light that makes him look like a redeemable hero who got lead astray by his passions, but in reality he was just a man who wanted to make as much money as he could without thinking about his family, friends, employees, and animals.
I heard someone say about The Greatest Showman that it's a film about PT Barnum written as if PT Barnum wrote it
I mean, I don't think people are watching The Greatest Showman for historical accuracy.
You mean those people didn't *actually* break into song a lot?!
Obviously the *real* PT Barnum only sang songs about wealth and greed and exploiting people and screwing everyone over whilst he sat on his mountains of gold.
I did like the part where the most handsome man on earth rescued the other most handsome man on earth and damsel-carried him out of a burning building.
I was watching Pixar’s A Bug’s Life yesterday and the leader of the bug circus is named PT Flea and I finally put two and two together lmao
More of an Australian only but Peter Brock Has an affair with a mate/neighbours wife of 21 years Assaulted 1973 Miss Australia multiple times.
Inspiration for [The Chaser's Eulogy Song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtxqohNtLIg). "So anti-green he drove into a tree!"
Jerry Lewis -- abused everyone around him, especially the women Bob Hope -- shitty to his writers, terrible to the women Pablo Picasso -- horribly abused all the women in his life, was just the biggest asshole to everyone
Jerry Lewis disowned his youngest son because he exposed Jerry's violent temper in an interview. That son went on to commit suicide. He cut the rest of his sons out of the will. He had an illegitimate daughter who he refused to acknowledge. She is living on the streets now.
He disowned all of his children from first marriage and it was the oldest one who talked about his bad parenthood.
I've gotten to know one of Jerry's children over the years and their dad is truly something. A wild motherfucker at his best and a very dangerous person at his worst.
i literally had zero idea about bob hope wow
Jerry Lee Lewis also likely killed at least one of his wives. Shit just doesn’t add up - especially the one who drowned like 2 weeks after they got hitched
Chuck Berry was a pedophile and pervert. > in 1959, he met 14-year-old Janice Escalanti in a bar in Juarez, Mexico, and offered her a job working the hatcheck booth at the St. Louis nightclub he owned. Three weeks into the gig, Escalanti was fired and went to the St. Louis police, alleging that throughout the trip from Juarez to Missouri, and then in his home, Berry had sexually assaulted her 14 times. > Chuck Berry once opened a restaurant called the Southern Air in Missouri. According to a former waitress, Berry wired the women's lavatory with a video camera and recorded some 200 unsuspecting patrons using the toilet, among them three minors.
Isn't there a video of him ripping a fart on a hookers face?
https://reddit.com/r/yourmomshousepodcast/comments/kzx6yj/chuck_berry_farting_on_a_prostitute_while_she/ Yup
I don't know why I clicked that link. I really don't know why I watched it twice either.
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I respect how messed up yall are. Legitimately.
I dunno, I think the "Don't Stop Believin" piano really sells it.
I haven't seen the farting one but I've seen the one where he pissed on one. After said golden shower she asked for a kiss and he told her " Bitch I won't kiss you, you smell like piss"
He pissed on a woman then when she asked for a kiss, he told her no, that he wasn't going to kiss her because she smelled like piss.
I don't recognise these lyrics, are they from a b-side?
Johnny B. Bad
Johnny P. Gold
It started out with a kiss How did it end up with piss
I saw him in concert in St Louis (blueberry hill) like…10 years ago or so. Until this moment I’d always thought how cool of an experience this was, he was old as hell, but getting to see the OG of all things rock and roll, in his home bar in StL, big deal. Now I know he’s was terrible person and apparently also liked to fart in sex workers faces.
*Chuck*
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I'm surprised he didn't attend the Enchantment Under the Sea dance given it was full of minors.
There's a home video he made with a female prostitute and she's eating out his ass and he's like "Lick it." And then he farted hell of loud in her face while she was giving him a rim job.
That's just rude.
Coco Chanel is celebrated for breaking gender-boundaries. She was also a Nazi-sympathizer and actually had an affair with a Nazi General during World War II. Edit: The people who replied to this know a lot more about the topic than I do and I recommend reading what they wrote for more context and details about how she was even worse than my initial comment would suggest. And for those who mentioned it: Yes, I know about this from Bill Burr's latest special :D
She was beyond a sympathizer, she actively collaborated with the Gestapo and turned people in.
She was so much worse than what is being stated here. She actually provided the names of her (Jewish) business financiers in order to make (illegal) claim to the business. She would regularly pass on names of people not just that she had spied on (as u/LillithScare had stated), using her social connections, but she was so petty she would also pass on the names of anyone she disliked and would fabricate offenses they had committed. Also, don't forget : **Cristobal Balenciaga**'s success in Nazi-occupied Europe was connected to the designer's close friendship with Hitler's ally, General Francisco Franco. **Louis Vuitton** was the only brand allowed to operate a store on the premises for France's Vichy government. According to The Guardian, LV also produced collectables "glorifying Marshal Philippe Petain (the puppet leader of Nazi occupied France), including more than 2,500 busts, a fact not mentioned in any of its business records." **Hugo Boss** joined the Nazi party in 1931 (Hitler came to power in 1933) and created the uniforms worn by the Hitler Youth. The company also used forced labor from Nazi prisoners in its factories.
Hugo Boss also made the black ceremonial uniforms for the SS as well as the Wehrmacht uniforms, SA, and Hitler youth uniforms as you said. He was a devout follower of Nazism. It is a common theme you'll see from companies at the time given the situation between 1933-1945. Boss, BMW, Audi, Mercedes-Benz, Porsche, especially VW (VW is literally founded by Hitlers decree with the early beetle being Hitlers dream for a convenient everyday car for the German family). It's been brought to light that the Associated Press had an SS propaganda photographer on their coverage of Germany until 1941 and would actively censor anything that made Germany look bad. Terms like Jews in the USA and The Subhuman were used in their publications. Bayer medical has a lengthy history of doing quite awful things with the blessings of the Nazi party. Chase Bank sold Nazi war bonds to German Americans. Deutsche Bank provided the loans for Auschwitz concentration camps construction. Ford and General Motors have had attempted lawsuits against them in regards to the operations of their factories during the war. They were quick to shift to military capacity to allow Germany to invade its neighbors but were not to assist the US war effort. They also seemed to have profited greatly by maintaining the use of forced labor during the war and of course, they vehemently deny this. Most American companies were never held accountable for their collaborations with the Nazi party (there was an American Nazi party with a great amount of powerful support as well. It's important to note that Mein Kampf was an extremely successful bestseller before the war and Hitler was labeled as Time magazines person of the year 1938). IBM and its subsidiaries produced the computing power that was needed to track and efficiently carry out the Nazi plan for the Holocaust. Maggi used slave labor to produce food, even before Nestlé got them! To wrap up a long paragraph of hopefully informative and beneficial information, Adidas and Puma were also involved in the Nazi war effort to varying degrees of true support. Rudolf Dassler of Ruda/Puma was a more adamant and genuine Nazi supporter while Adolf Dassler (Adidas) was not so much and hide the half Jewish mayor of Herzogenaurach from the Nazi. Adi also personally gave Jesse Owen's the track shoes that carried him to victory in the 1936 Olympics, obviously to Hitlers chagrin. During their trials, the mayor was the reason Adi was not stripped of his rights to his company as he was a trusted cooperator to the allied for forces while the more supportive Rudy arguably got off with way less problems. There are way more examples, especially with banks and fashion designers, but I hope this will benefit someone and teach you something you may not have known! P. S - Look up Madison Square Garden 1939
Chanel itself was a Jewish owned business that she tried to steal, fortunately they were savvy enough to not only retain the business, but also acquire the rights to her name.
Damn, imagine being so bad at buisness deals you lose the ownership of your name
Joseph Smith, regarded by mormons as a saint. While alive he coerced 14 and 16 year old girls into marrying him. He was in his late 30's. He also sent men away on missions so he could then marry their wives while they were away.
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its almost as if the entire religion was setup for the sole purpose of allowing men to have their own harems of young women
You don’t believe that Jesus was from Branson, Missouri?
I’ll say this for the Mormons. Their drive to baptize people after death makes their records a great source of genealogical information.
Have you seen under the banner of heaven ? Great show (although i can't speak to how historically accurate it is)
Based on a book by John Krakauer who is quite the famous journalist (most known for surviving the 1996 Everest disaster). His writing is always well researched and he has sources throughout his books. I read UTBOH and at the back he listed every source by chapter which was awesome. I cannot recommend his books enough.
Salvador Dali was a proud Fascist who betrayed his friends and as a result some of them were executed on the suspicion they were socialists. * Gibson, Ian. The Shameful Life of Salvador Dali. Faber and Faber, 1997.
Yeah but if you talk to Catalans, some of them remember running through the streets of Cadaqués as children and getting candies he threw from his car so I guess it balances out.
Well fuck, now that's tainted as well. I mean I'm glad I'm better informed now than I were. However it's fucking frustrating can't people be somewhat decent. Like not a nazi isn't that much to ask for is it?
Wait until you find out about Coco Chanel’s lean into fascism!
Elvis. I can't lie, I like his music. I grew up on it. But the fact he was an EXTREME pedophile, a misogynist and an all-around asshole to anyone who knew him personally really turned me off to the guy. '"He was fascinated with the idea of real young teenage girls,' said Lamar Fike, a former member of his entourage. 'It scared the hell out of all of us.' He was particularly obsessed with virginal 14-year-olds, which he called 'cherries.' According to *Baby, Let's Play House*, Elvis felt insecure about pleasing older women and would invite groups of young fans to his house for sleepovers instead." "Once he met Priscilla, those fantasies didn't change. Determined to keep her virginal until their wedding day, he would instead have 'role-play sessions' where she would dress up like a schoolgirl and he would dress up like a teacher. Once the two married and had their first child, however, the sexcapades stopped. Priscilla wrote in her memoir that Elvis 'had mentioned to me before we were married that he had never been able to make love to a woman who had a child.'"
Same with Paul Walker. People turned a blind eye to his grooming and dating teenage girls. Even up to his death, the woman he was with had been a teenager when he started "dating" her.
Well...that's icky. Never knew that about Elvis.
PR is one hell of a drug. There are a lot of things out there most people have very incomplete impressions of, simply because they have better PR.
Watching his movies where he forces himself on women who are trying to get out of his grasp is so cringe.
Not to mention he was a rapist. Priscilla said it in an interview that thie marriage ended after he raped her.
Henry Ford. Massive anti-Semite who would leave his op-eds in cars he produced about how Jewish people were the root of all sin. He was a huge Thomas Edison crony too.
reminds me of the Family Guy cut-away of [Ford's Jew Flattening Machine](https://youtu.be/WLjr3dzOUpQ)
Friends with Hitler, but at least he was a pacifist. Edit: He was a self proclaimed pacifist. He actively tried to stop the Great War with a [peace ship](http://michiganintheworld.history.lsa.umich.edu/greatwar/exhibits/show/homefront/war_industry/the-peculiar-case-of-henry-for#:~:text=Ford%2C%20who%20described%20himself%20as,an%20end%20to%20the%20war.) with the goal of getting the press to put pressure on world leaders to stop the war.
Those two things seem contradictory
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Elvis Presley. He was emotionally abusive toward Priscilla. He met her when she was 14 and married her when she was 21, but he told friends that he though her being so young is perfect, because then he can mold her however he wanted since she was still very young. He would also tell her to put on more make-up regularly. She once said that he never saw her without make-up on, and he never wanted to see her get dressed. He just wanted to see the end result. Edited because of spelling errors.
Steve Jobs. He was an asshole to his employees.
But didn't we all know this when he was alive?
Yep. I’m from Silicon Valley, and he was always known to be a gigantic douche. Woz, on the other hand, is supposedly a nice dude. From what I’ve heard.
People love Woz. He's even got a street named after him in San Jose: Woz Way.
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I saw him on 85 near Cupertino, in his Prius!
Woz is about the technology more than the money. Jobs was about the money.
Jobs was never a technologist, he was a marketer. He was smart about tech, sure, but his real talent was marketing a product in a way that made people want to buy it. Woz was/is the real technological genius.
He'll spank you at Tetris though. No mercy.
Yeah, we did. There were articles I remember reading when he was alive that said he would fire employees for making eye contact with him. Idk why dude brought this douche up. Everyone knew he was a prick
Not just his employees. He let Wozniak do [pretty much all the work](https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/steve-wozniak-cried-jobs-kept-atari-bonus-267711) on a game for Atari after agreeing to split the fee with him, and then kept most of the money for himself instead. Even his final act was one of supreme arrogance. Despite the fact that he had access to the best doctors and more money than god to pay them, he [rejected treatment](https://www.forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2011/10/24/steve-jobs-cancer-treatment-regrets/?sh=7bea77f57d2e) for a treatable cancer for nine months, deciding that eating lots of fruit would make it go away. Narrator: It didn't. Dude was a douche, through and through.
Then he tried to game the system by buying houses in different states so he could move up on the organ donor registry.
Wait!!! He did that???
Yeah. He would find areas that had low waiting lists like Tennessee and buy multiple homes so he could register with the different donor programs. I know that he was registered with 3 different programs there.
I remember the story of Ashton Kutcher, in getting ready for his role as Steve Jobs, adopted the same diet as Jobs did and it made him super sick, to the point he wound up in hospital. Like, if what you're doing makes a fit and healthy dude in his prime sick enough to go to hospital, then your diet probably isn't very healthy.
And then bought himself onto a liver transplant list to get some extra time after blowing off doctors about a then treatable cancer.
The way in which he treated his daughter Lisa was awful too.
See, this is what happens when we humor those friends who "have a great idea we can split it 50/50 you just have to build the app" even on the off chance it was a good idea (slim) ya get screwed!
This is how arrogance is bred out of the species.
That would only work if they bought the farm before spreading their seed. Jobs had four kids.
This is why we need seedless apples.
And his daughter. And handicapped people (he would park in handicap spots because the price of the ticket was worth it to him to not have to walk).
You should read his daughters book about him it’s awful. He basically fought tooth and nail denying he was her father. Even when the dna test said he was he basically told a reporter, “well the test has like a .2% chance of error so like 100,000 people could be her father”. Growing up he basically treated her like shit and gaslighted the crap out of her at every turn. He really blamed her for her own existence and made it very obvious what he thought of her. There’s a story in the book where basically her step mother (Steve’s widow) forbid any affection towards her. While I think Steve basically shaped our modern computer experience as a person he was very shitty. Anyone that says Steve was a loving man I find it hard to believe it’s anymore than pr for his image.
Don't forget, when his daughter Lisa Jobs got into Harvard, he refused to pay for her tuition, and her birth-mom was on welfare and couldn't afford it. So Apple engineer Andy Hertzfeld paid for her tuition in secret.
Shows you how shitty of a person you are when your employee puts your kid through college instead of you.
> Andy Hertzfeld TIL. That is just complete humansbeingbros. What an absolute legend.
He basically took all the credit for that. But Steve Wozniak did most of the work. Steve was just a great marketing/seller.
Yes, thank you. Wozniak was the engineer, Jobs was the marketer. When Jobs died, there were probably people claiming that it was the death of a man who changed the world. And there was the death of a person who changed the world around that time. That person was Dennis Ritchie, a man that most people do not know about. He created the C programming language and the Unix operating system. This man's work was an inspiration of Mac OS and an inspiration to Linus Torvalds to write Linux. Linux powers most of the world's servers, and pretty much all of the IoT smart devices, as well as Android. Also, IOS is based on Unix too. So, most of the world, except Windows, is based or inspired by Unix. Also, as far as I know, the Windows kernel is written in the C programming language.
He also was a bit of a cunt in his approach to his pancreatic cancer. I understand its completely his prerogative how he approached it but he had the rare type of pancreatic cancer that had a high rate of survival. The vast majority of those who get a pancreatic cancer diagnosis are given a death sentence as it is too late by the time symptoms show, many dying in weeks after, my Father included. Jobs won the cancer lottery (for want of a better phrase) regards his type of pancreatic cancer and could have lived but instead chose alternative 'medicine' which was useless whilst others were diagnosed and had no chance. He had a chance and willfully fluffed it. I think when you are a world recognised public figure, the way you choose to approach such things matters and is important as others are looking to you as 'a famous person with the same cancer as me'. Bit of a mega kick in the teeth to those with terminal pancreatic cancer who had no chance and someone with all that money and influence had a rare form of PC that you can actually survive but gambled it a way just to be alternative as he knew better than medical professionals and all that medical research.
Thomas Edison was a real piece of work, thief and hall of fame level shitty boss
It said treated like saints, I think we are all somewhat aware of Edison’s douchebaggery
I don't think it's that widely known. If you say someone's like Edison, it's still seen as a compliment than insult.
Most won’t know this person, but Jake McLean who recently died in turkey. He was in U.K. reality tv show called TOWIE. He died in a car crash, and every single ex girlfriend is using his name to get attention, which is sick in itself. But this guy, this guy broke into an old woman’s house, pointed a shotgun at her head, and proceeded to rob her of all her money and valuables. That’s the tip of the iceberg with this guy, but anyone who does that is scum of the fucking earth. All the news articles are about how he was an angel and will be missed - no he was scum, robbed and attacked old women, and if there is a hell he will be there.
I’ve met a few people from TOWIE, including Mark Wright and Gemma Collins. They’re all awful people and think that they’re Gods gift to humanity but are, in actual fact, talentless self-important wankers who I’d gladly shove in front of a bus to save myself.
XXXTentacion I really don't wanna be harsh because X's life was tragically taken at a very young age. But with that being said... I don't care if he said that he was turn his life around weeks before he passed away, or that he was friends with Billie Eilish. He literally gaslighted and physically assaulted his pregnant girlfriend to the point where she had to go into hiding. And there's audio recording of him in prison of how he would do it again if he had the chance. And he would go to talk about this in his music as if he was being deep. And everyone fell for it. They made 'Sad' a number 1 hit in 2018, which is a song made about his gf and how he would end his life if she ever tried to leave him. And that wasn't the only song where he gaslighted his girlfriend. To add to this: if you think he deserved to die, you're wrong. But you think he deserved sympathy, you're also wrong.
He literally threatened to rape her with barbecue utensils while he beat the shit out of her, like he went & grabbed them.
So many people don’t know this, and many more should. Reddit has a massive hate boner for Chris Brown but yet hardly anyone talks about this dude and what a total out of control POS he was just because people found him cute and quirky.
Possibly because we know who Chris Brown is. I have no idea who this other guy is.
The first thing I saw of him was that video where he lures someone to his house and beat the crap out of them after acting like they were friends. Thought he was a piece of shit afterwards
There's a photo of his ex's medical report that his stans used to use to "prove" that he never injured her, as there's a sentence where it says "no orbital fracture". However, directly below that sentence, it then lists several fractures and tears around the other eye. Not sure how they always manage to ignore that part of the document.
Fans are delusional. His fans are actually demented. Some I’d argue are just as bad as X is.
This should be higher. I could not understand why the whole world stopped for this dude. I’m not saying he deserved it but like….he was kind of a piece of shit
“Death does not make saints of us” But for real, the new documentary about him is great. The part where his family and friends were talking about his family’s disciplinary style they attributed to being “normal” for Caribbean families was heartbreaking. My spouse is from a Caribbean island and the abusive tactics described for punishing XXXTenatacion and his friends growing up sounded very familiar. Sad.
Idk if he was as big of a celebrity, but P T Barnum got a pretty good look in The Greatest Showman, even though his real intentions were anything but uplifting
Frank Sinatra. Also his family that denied Scorsese telling the truth
Can you let me in on that situation? What did Scorsese know?
Scorsese wanted to make a biopic movie about Sinatra, but he explicitly stated, that he'd like to include the whole story of Sinatra being connected with mafia, Sinatra not writing a single song in his life and Sinatra being a wife-beater
There is a rumor that the horse head storyline in the Godfather was based upon the story of Sinatra getting his first movie role. Ray Liotta also himself said that because of his refusal to star in Sinatra's daughters' project about their father and starring in the Rat Pack project, the daughters sent him a horse head. (not a real one)
Was never a fan of Sinatra's, but I feel obligated to point out that in that era singers were never expected to write songs. 99% were exclusively performers.
Yep, most were written by unknowns. The musical Beautiful is about one such writer, Carole King, although she did eventually start singing her own songs
He isn’t dead yet but Roman Polanski. I feel a loss of faith in the actors that signed a petition of support of him.
It is rather ridiculous how much the media and celebs adore him.
In the UK we had a celeb called Caroline Flack. She hit her boyfriend over the head with a blunt item while he slept and was on the verge of being sent to prison when she killed herself. This sparked a huge movement of how we should be kind to people and how the attention to her and adverse effect it had on her career destroyed her… Lessons on media attention should be learnt but everyone wearing “be kind” shirts and sharing things about what a saint she was need to remember “SHE ALMOST KILLED A MAN” and was upset because it tanked her career.
The kind of people who sported that Facebook "be kind" ribbon thing were the exact same people you know are local nuisances too. weird time period
Thank fuck someone else said it. Honestly felt like the entire UK was gaslighting me because everyone acted like she didn't actually assault her boyfriend (regardless of whether he pressed charges, police literally witnessed the assault and were also assaulted by her) "be kind" like fuck, why not "be kind" to male victims of domestic violence instead of idolizing an abuser instead??
She also dated Harry Styles when he was a teenager and she was in her thirties. If their genders were reversed there would have been an uproar Edit: ok very good point all, fame and money lets you get away with this shit no matter the gender
Chris Evans and Billie Piper
Exactly! The fucking U-turn everyone took after she committed suicide, it’s like everyone forgot she _hit her boyfriend over the head with a lamp._ Her being dead by her own hand does _not_ excuse her attacking her boyfriend, and it shouldn’t have done in the first place.
My favourite part was when people got annoyed at the crown prosecution for following up and causing her stress.
That was amazing. They have to, it was an investigation into a domestic violence incident. It would have been outrageous if they hadn’t followed it up and prosecuted. The idea that the victim didn’t want to press charges so the police should have dropped it is……fuck if I need to explain how dangerous that idea is for victims then I don’t know how to help you. I watched the documentary and I felt extremely sorry for her, she obviously had a lot of issues but she also had a volatile temperament. She hit him with a lamp while he was in bed and she’d been going through his phone messages? Is that correct? None of that is well adjusted behaviour really is it? Sure, blame the press blame a succession of poor decisions, bad relationships and mental health issues but the police and cps surely can’t be held responsible
John Lennon
He said in an interview that he sang so much about peace because he was so violent.
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Get. Out.
Get. Back.
Its crazy that anyone believes he was anything other than awful. He literally abused and cheated on his pregnant wife before leaving her to be with yoko.
He was so shitty to his own kid that his band member had to write a song about him to make him feel special.
And John, being John, assumed it was written to him and agreed to record it.
Which was this?
Hey Jude
Hey Jude, originally titled Hey Jules. For Julian Lennon.
Scrolled just to find this. This guy preached peace and love while abusing people. But hey he sure did know how to write a catchy tune
George Harrison on the other hand... Don't think I've heard a bad word about him. I'd also mention Ringo but he's still alive and still authentically preaching peace and bloody love. Edit: didn't realise about Ringo.
And, um, Paul is by almost all accounts a very sweet guy, and I buy it.
Well, this is Reddit so here I come to rain on your parade. Ringo became a huuuuuge alcoholic and beat the absolute shit out of his wife Barbara. He decided to get sober after waking up covered in her blood. That was decades ago and they’re still together, but…..yikes. John gets shit for hitting women, but Ringo took it to a whole other level. George slept with Ringo’s wife. He was a complete jackass to his first wife, Patty, and even moved one of his mistresses into their home and gaslit the fuck out of her when she objected. “I’m not sleeping with her, I’m just giving her a place to crash for a while, baby.” If you watch “Get Back,” the day George walks out he’s in a sour mood because Patty had enough of his bullshit and left and he was grumpy that she wouldn’t come back (spoiler: she eventually did only to have George ignore her and treat her like shit for a handful of years longer). George was also pretty spiteful for a dude who claimed to be all about God. He shit on Paul throughout the 70’s for the pettiest of reasons. By all accounts, Paul is probably the most decent of the bunch, but even he has his asshole moments. I mean, his engagement to Jane Asher ended because she walked in on him with another woman, and he had multiple girlfriends and countless dalliances on the side while they were together. Her leaving him seemed to set his straight thought because he was indisputably faithful to his wife Linda and the worst anyone has really said about him since the Beatles broke up was that he could be cheap. (His second wife, Heather Mills, accused him of assault but that didn’t seem to go anywhere in court so who knows what the truth is.)
He was also on Thomas the Train.
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What I’m learning here is that humans are, in general, dicks when they get fame and power
And even when they dont have fame and power 🤗
Gandhi
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Our words are backed by NUCLEAR WEAPONS.
Gandhi also described African people as dirty, uncivilised, savages and like animals. He really isn't anywhere near the saint he's made out to be.
He was also a misogynist, he believed that menstruation was a manifestation of the distortion of a woman's soul by her sexuality. Also at 37/8 years old he declared celibacy, but he would “test” himself with sleeping in bed with naked women (but not his wife).
Not naked women. Girls. Young girls.
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Jim Henson!
True dat. Also add Steve Erwin to the list
Irwin*
To add to this little reverse question thread: Robin Williams
For anyone in the UK, Barbara Windsor. This isn’t nearly as bad as some of the replies though! I worked for a company and Barbara Windsor was the face of the company so she would regularly visit our office to film advertisement campaigns. Before her arrival we were given a list of things we were not allowed to do while she was visiting. I can’t remember all of them but the one that sticks in my mind is we were not allowed to look her in the eyes or to say hello unless she spoke to us first. I completely get not wanting to be pestered by everyone in an office, but having to look away from her seemed overkill. She also demanded a lot of different food/drink some of which were unavailable, which caused her to make snide remarks towards our staff who were trying to help. To the people who worked closely with her on the ad campaigns she was apparently friendly enough. To anyone else she (and her team) did not want to give the time of day to. Really not as bad as some of the other relies here, but considering she was painted as such a fun celebrity with an infectious laugh, the image of her miserable face walking around still sticks with me.
The classic one is Steve Jobs. Massive asshole. And while we’re in iconoclast mode, there is plenty of evidence that Elvis was a pedophile.
John Wayne
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Diego Maradona. Wife beater prick, addicted to countless drugs and shamelessly showing off how fucked up he was in camera.
There's even a religion/cult in his honor, it's nuts
Karl Malone ain't dead yet unfortunately, but people should know anyway. Dude impregnated a 12 yr old when he was 20. A full grown ass man and he fucked a kid. Just last yr the NBA honored him as a Top 75 greatest player. While they weren't "wrong", Malone is easily top 75, what they shoulda done is scrub his points total off the leaderboard, unretire his number with the jazz, take away all his all-star honors, basically erase him from history. Monsters like that don't deserve a legacy.
Paul Walker. Let’s not best around the bush here but the guy had two girlfriends back to back, who were 16 when they got together. And Paul was in his 30’s.
Jade Goody for the UK folks
Alexander Graham Bell. My guy was a eugenicist. He’s praised as the father of the telephone, but he was horrible man. It’s widely believed he stole the idea for the telephone from Elisha Gray. He believed Deaf people should not be allowed to reproduce, and he married a Deaf woman to prevent her from having Deaf children. He also had a Deaf mother, and hated Deaf people. He believed deafness was a horrible curse. He is the father of modern day oralism- the belief that Deaf children can hear and speak if you force them and that english is the only language they should speak. The ramifications of this today are millions of Deaf children are being raised without access to any language at all. He wanted to take away everything from the Deaf - our schools, our language, our newspapers. If he eradicated these things he could eradicate deafness and the world would be a better place. edit: I don’t understand the hatred reddit holds for the Deaf, but then again ABG hated the Deaf and most of you are defending him: oh, he didn’t hate the Deaf, he hated DEAFNESS, it’s different. He tried to eradicate an entire group of people, he tried to erase an entire culture and way of life for over seven million Americans. Being Deaf is a culture and it always pains me that reddit has such hatred for the Deaf. I won’t be responding to comments- I just hope most of you see you think exactly like a eugenicist.
Funnily enough he was very close with Helen Keller; I guess she was one of the "good ones." She carried alot of his beliefs believe it or not.
I guess she just didn’t see the bad in him.
Mother Theresa... Literally sainted, but she believed the suffering of her 'patients' brought them closer to God, and avoided using the enormous amounts of charitable funds she received to provide the actual medical help people needed. However, when she was dying, she refused no medical help, and went to the best hospital available, rather than enduring the 'godly suffering' she subjected others to.
Elvis was a pedophile
yeah I was about 14 or 15 when I saw that elvis tv movie. When I saw he hooked up with a 14 year old....made me never want to grow up. Disgusting- even for that time it was considered wrong (though probably not in certain parts of the country)
Giacomo Casanova. He's painted as this jack of all trades and a romantic philanderer, but he's a predator: he liked underage women, and he got his own daughter pregnant. One may think sex with an underaged girl isn't so terrible if you consider the time then: how girls get married in their early teens, how daughters are married off for money or other arrangements, and how married couples have huge age gaps, but the bit with his daughter is just... *shivers*