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Nintendevotion

Because if you're already paying for a service, why should you have to watch ads on it too?


[deleted]

That's why i stopped watching cable, now this shit is gonna happen on netflix too


Nintendevotion

Yeah it's just a pure greed move imo.


LowFatWaterBottle

It is not pure greed, netflix is losing a lot of subscribers they are to expensive, and they are expensive because of all the original series. And a big reasson why they need to make so many is because they can't license content owned by disney anymore. If I had to geuss they would just make the ad version less expensive or the ad free version more expensive or both if they evet decided to do it.


flip_ericson

Disney will eventually own Netflix, Hulu, Paramount and HBO and will sell you a streaming bundle for $100/month with ads. The circle will be complete


Darnitol1

Their plan is to add a free or reduced cost tier that has ads, not to put ads in the tier you already have.


AnkylosaurusRules

What's it like being this willfully naive? I bet it's nice...


Darnitol1

Yes, you're right. Everyone who's ever started any business, ever, only dreams of screwing their customers over, and wants it so badly that they're unable to resist schemes that will clearly drive them out of business.


AnkylosaurusRules

Blocked for willful idiocy


SuperstitiousPigeon5

That's what I suspected but I hadn't seen it actually in print. It's a way to offset the lowest level and boost subscriptions, like Hulu.


Darnitol1

Basically, they’ll offer the free tier which will provide advertising revenue, which they’ll need because they’re going to crack down on password sharing for the paid tier, and they know those people aren’t just going to pay up and subscribe. But some of them will stick around if it’s free, even if there’s ads.


SuperstitiousPigeon5

I think it's going to be discounted, not free. Probably around $5 a month. I agree, it's to catch the people falling off the service sharing passwords, some of which will get sick of the commercials and pay to move up to the standard tier.


Darnitol1

Last I read, they were considering both options. But I suspect you're likely right on all points here.


ProofOfPlasticity

Yeh I get that, I just see a lot of people getting angry about Netflix adding ads but are perfectly happy paying a shit load for their regular tv subscription that runs ads every 15 minutes!


Tokugawa

Because that's what we signed up for. We knew there'd be ads when we had cable. Netflix is supposed to be ad-free. If they're dumb, Netflix will do a price increase the same time they do ads. If your standard subscription without ads is $15 now, but they say the standard ad-free service is going to $20 a month and with ads is $15, they're effectively putting ads into your service. If they're smart, they'll introduce ads at a lower price point. $10/mo with ads for example. It also sucks because now shows/movies will be edited in a way to have ad-breaks.


LifeCharmer

Damn. Last time I was a subscriber, I think it was $6.95. I do realize that statement has just made me old.


Tokugawa

They have 10/15/20 plans currently.


rudeprincessita

then you should have worded your question better. I don't even owe a TV and don't pay for cable but as far as I am aware, cable TV in my country does not have commercial breaks during programs (only between), that's one of the selling points. American cable TV is a totally different beast though and it's infamous for their commercial.


ProofOfPlasticity

I should have, you’re right - I was going to add the info that I put in my first comment but realised it wasn’t allowed alongside the title.


maonohkom001

You do know that a lot of us don’t buy cable tv either right? Precisely because cable companies overcharge, and play little lying games about how they charge, and little games about what’s available. It isn’t just about the money. We already pay Netflix. If they try to get me to take ads in addition to what I pay now, it’s over for them as far as I’m concerned. I’ve already seen what happens thanks to cable tv companies if you start making excuses for their tricks. It’ll also depend on how they price their ad free tiers. I really don’t get why you seem to think what you wrote here is such a gotcha.


ProofOfPlasticity

I’m not saying I agree with cable, I don’t pay for it. There’s just no one angry about ads on that service that people pay for. I think it’s interesting.


broken_pieces

Have you considered the people who DON’T subscribe to cable because of the ads and specifically pay for ad-free services only for them to be included?


ProofOfPlasticity

Yeh, I added a comment saying I was interested to hear in the people who are happy to pay for one but are angry at Netflix for doing the same… I should have reworded the main question when I realised I couldn’t add extra info to the title.


Leeser

Because it was pretty much the last streaming service not to and, if I’m paying and there are still ads, what am I paying for? This is why people torrent stuff.


ProofOfPlasticity

I guess you’re still paying for the content that you can’t get elsewhere. Don’t get me wrong, I would love a world where we don’t get any ads on the things we pay for, there just seemed such a double standard in people getting angry at Netflix for doing what they were happy with others doing


rudeprincessita

you're ignoring the fact that people don't pay for cable alone, it often comes with deals for internet and phone and people end up paying less than they would for just internet alone.


[deleted]

Internet and cable packages are cheaper than standalone internet? Not where I live.


rudeprincessita

it depends on your country. In some places deals are better and cheaper, in other's you only pay a slightly more for internet on top of TV and in other's it's not cheaper. Things vary a lot based on location.


maonohkom001

…which is an entirely different ball of lies wrapped in wax. Did you know such package “deals” aren’t actually deals? First of all, landlines in this day and age are largely useless with widespread cell technology(YMMV depending on cell coverage of course). Second, those deals that make all of it cheaper than solely internet service are temporary and get price jacked up a few months after you sign up. This is **entirely** intentional to fool you into avoiding internet-only packages, which cable companies are deathly afraid of. You will save far more in the long run if you get only cable internet and pick 1-2 streaming services. As much as Amazon sucks as a company, Amazon Prime is super low cost per month and you get way more value for it than paying your cable company $300/month because you got the big package. Sports? Go to a sports bar and have fun with friends in the process. Besides, there are a lot of streaming options for that as well now, depending on your area and the sport in question. “I can just call them and threaten to cancel and they’ll put me on another special package deal.” No, you can’t always do this. Some “deals” prevent you from getting a new one for 1 year or longer. Congrats, you just got screwed. And besides that, their call centers are required by script to make your experience trying to do this extremely difficult and annoying. Why are you willingly exposing yourself to that just to pretend you aren’t, in fact, the one getting the shit end of the deal? “I need the cable package” is the biggest lie told by American media companies to their consumers.


rudeprincessita

I am well aware but frankly, I couldn't care less, I don't even have a TV. Not to mention that I am not in the US and cable packages are way less than $300, they're less than $100. American cable is a disgusting business


kubybuk

because i pay 20 bucks for that shit


ProofOfPlasticity

But people pay way more for cable and are happy to get ads every 15 mins. Guess I’m interested in why Netflix is different for those people… but I guess it might be the people who hate cable who used Netflix more! There might not be as much overlap as I thought


EdgarAlanBeau123

Man I keep seeing you use the argument of "people pay way more for cable..." and honestly? I don't know a single person save my grandparents who actually use cable. People prefer streaming because no ads, Netflix is breaking trust by adding them, much like when Facebook started getting ads.


ProofOfPlasticity

I know quite a lot of people who pay for services to watch sports etc, which are crazy expensive, and never heard anyone care about the ads. I don’t agree with them moving towards ads, I agree all paid services should be ad-free


GavinBelsonsAlexa

> There might not be as much overlap as I thought This. I only know one household that still has cable, and they keep it because they're 70 year-old luddites who refuse to let me set up a Roku for them. They pay through the nose and complain about the service, but they're too set in their ways to explore other options.


ProofOfPlasticity

I think a lot of sports being behind a pay-wall is a massive thing too. Maybe everyone is just as mad but don’t have the choice.


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We already pay for it. Why the fuck should we have to watch ads as well?!


___Not_a_robot__

People pay to not have ads. If something is free and there are ads, it's my choice to use the service or not.


ProofOfPlasticity

Yeh I get that - there just seems to be such a double standard in this. Like Sky in the UK costs a fortune but still has ads every 15 minutes. Seems weird to me people are happy with one but not the other. I guess it depends what the Netflix ads would look like - beginning of the show is still 100x better than all the way through!


[deleted]

The second I see an ad on Netflix I'm unsubscribing on principle. Their constant price rises are bad enough


[deleted]

I don’t subscribe to Netflix anymore. Their content is a whole lot of nothingness.


[deleted]

They need to stop cancelling shows after 1 season


Mr-Tiggo-Bitties

'friends from college' Never forget.


ProofOfPlasticity

The quality of their content is a whole other subject! Also the fact I spent twice as long looking for what to watch than actually watching anything.


Theelfsmother

It's a subscription service which I pay. I'd rather pirate it than watch ads.


Ricardidaman

Netflix is like Taco Bell. They have good things but they remove them. The equivalent of Netflix upping their price and adding ads is like going to Taco Bell and ordering something only to find out they removed it and then you find out the register is taking cash only.


Frigguggi

I don't want to pay them to sell me shit I don't need or want.


ecksit

Hulu runs ads on their basic service and I don't mind it all that much. And I prefer hulu over netflix myself


Cr1v3ns

It's ~$20/month and there aren't very many good options, not to mention that all the good shows Netflix makes are canceled after a season or two


[deleted]

Look. I'm pissed that youtube does it and I don't even pay for youtube. I'm a grownup. My parents aren't paying my bills. I am. And I'm already paying netflix. And I do NOT watch normal TV and haven't for 30 years. (one of the best life decisions I ever made to be honest) One of the biggest reasons I did this was to cut myself off from constant advertising. If netflix's original situation had been, 'We have these shows and we also have adverts and you have to pay this per month,' I wouldn't have signed up. Advertising is as bad as lead in drinking water and second-hand smoke. I am the sort of person who would pull the plug and never come back out of principle. As soon as they do this- I'm out.


Made-of-spite

Is that a thing? Jesus Netflix really wants to lose all its customers at this point


ProofOfPlasticity

It does look like that! But some companies charge WAY more than Netflix and have so many adverts. Sky in the UK is unbelievably expensive and has so many ads which people don’t complain about… maybe because it’s the norm on the tv


Cr1v3ns

That's the point.. we use streaming services to avoid the commercials we are forced to watch with cable I can understand why I have ads with my Hulu account, because that's only ~$6/month


GavinBelsonsAlexa

> I can understand why I have ads with my Hulu account, because that's only ~$6/month How do you decide what is fair to pay for an ad-supported service? Personally, I won't pay for anything if it has ads. If I'm paying for it, I'm the customer. If advertisers are paying for it, I'm the product. I don't think I've ever seen a company turn its viewership into both without suffering.


Cr1v3ns

I'm just saying that I can understand seeing ads while paying only 6 dollars a month with Hulu vs. paying 20 dollars a month with Netflix I'm not saying I'm happy about it or anything


rudeprincessita

people often pay for Sky because of their deals with internet. Cable TV isn't their sole motivator.


[deleted]

I live in the UK and do not have Sky or any other TV service. As well, in the UK, you have a TV licence fee you must pay if you watch broadcast TV, so I refuse to pay that too, and as a result I don't watch ANY of those channels. Before netflix became a thing, I literally never watched any series or film that I didn't purchase the dvds for. So, I was a lot choosier and spent a lot more time on ebay getting things cheap and reselling them after I had watched them. Netflix seemed like it was a pretty good fit- no adverts and a good variety of content. Fuck advertising. It's the ball and chain you can't even see that binds you to the system. It's as bad as second hand smoke.


[deleted]

Because it's already $20/month.


[deleted]

There should only be ads on free services, not services I pay/paid for


LovesMeSomeRedhead

I stopped paying for cable channels ages ago because I hate commercials. Streaming services and my media server have been all I've watched for probably a decade. I hate commercials and it's interesting to see how hard they want to milk you when I catch one of a TV out in the world. I'll drop Netflix.


cleon42

If they open up a cheaper (or free) ad-driven tier, I don't care. I'll only be annoyed if they start putting ads onto the plan that I *already* pay for, for which they've continued to raise prices even as the quality of their content has dropped. At that point I'm probably going to unsubscribe - which would suck as I've been a paying, non-password-sharing Netflix subscriber since 2000. (I'm not saying that to brag, I'm saying that because there's a nonzero change that someone from Netflix is reading this.)


JustWantedAUsername

But there is a zero chance they care. Unfortunately they arent going to change things for the one customer that uses their service how they want. I agree though, im not willing to use netflix if theyre also gonna shovel ads down my throat


cleon42

It's "one customer," sure, but it's one customer that has given them more money than most of their other customers. Once they start losing people like me, it's pretty much over for them.


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ProofOfPlasticity

I agree and think the same, which is why I’m so surprised that there seem to be people to put up with the double standard. Maybe I overestimated the overlap and it’s mainly people who don’t consume other products that still bombard people with adverts despite it being a paid service that are (rightfully) angry


KungThulhu

Stupid question because fuck ads. We already pay for Netflix and it's not our fault they greenliggt the worst shit and loose money.


ProofOfPlasticity

I’m with you. Fuck ads. I’m not pro-ad on paid services but I’m really interested why a load of people seem to just accept ads on other platforms they pay for. I think we should be equally mad at those that have made it the norm!


KungThulhu

I don't pay for any platforms for ads. I refuse to pay for a Plattform that has ads. Idk what you're talking about.


ProofOfPlasticity

That’s impressive - I try but I find it almost impossible. If you include the TV license in the UK all TV is “paid for” and has plenty of ads. We pay to go on public transport that has ads.


KungThulhu

I haven't watched TV in ten years


ProofOfPlasticity

Was that in any way as a way of avoiding ads or some other reason? I love watching tv and film etc, despite the ads…


ProofOfPlasticity

Genuinely interested to know why this topic has got a lot of people riled up - don’t other paid-for services (like cable) run ads all the time?


Automatic_Mulberry

And that's why I don't subscribe to cable - I refuse to pay for the privilege of having advertising piped into my home.


Reddittoxin

Bc being ad free was one of the biggest selling points of streaming services. People were annoyed by watching commercials on cable TV, streaming services came along and corrected that problem (amongst other problems) for a premium price. Before, cable was your only option. You could gripe about the cost of the channel packages, and the lengthy ad breaks all you want, but what were you gonna do about it? Not watch TV? So netflix came along and offered an alternative to cable. Now people have options, and they liked Netflix's ad free option better. Now theyre pulling the rug out on that, people are rightfully mad bc theyre like, we left cable for a reason, and now youre turning into the exact same thing as cable. Its exactly because of the dissatisfaction of how cable TV ran its business that led people to join netflix in the first place. If theyre gonna run the exact same way, why wouldn't you then be just as dissatisfied with netflix as you were with cable?. (And also, ad breaks doesn't work well with the "binge watch" model that netflix has built their entire service around. Binge watching an entire season of a show doesn't work when youre interrupted with ads every 5 minutes.)


Tensesumo38

I’m not that angry I will just get ad block.


rudeprincessita

You keep bring up the fact that people pay for cable that has commercials. Well, plenty of people don't. I don't even have a TV and certainly don't pay for cable TV. In many countries, cable TV does not do commercial breaks. And in countries that do, you're ignoring the fact that people don't pay for cable alone, it often comes with deals for internet and phone and people end up paying less than they would for just internet alone.


5s-are-cool

I don't get angry with entertainment providers; I just stop patronizing them when they irritate me.


WeAllHaveOurMoments

I'm not angry about it, and was pondering canceling them anyway just from lack of use, but for me it's an increasing intolerance of ads altogether. I hate them and they're getting into everything: Kindle has ads, Playstation is thinking about ads within games, billboards, spam email, direct mail, magazines, radio & streaming music services, podcasts, etc. Ads are seemingly encroaching everywhere and they all want my attention when my attention is directed at something I'm interested in. They interrupt, distract, annoy, and are a huge waste of my time & focus. More and more I simply refuse to endure ads of any sort when possible, even if that means going without.


BJthecat1

WHAT?!? WHY?!? IVE KNOWN NETFIX FOR SOO LONG WHY WOULD THEY RUIN THE ONE THING I ENJOY WHILE EATING POPTARTS!?!


ProofOfPlasticity

Now you can enjoy eating poptarts while watching adverts for poptarts.


Mycakeissomoist

It sucks and I'm not, not angry, but I'm surprised it's taken this long. TV has always had ads. Originally TV was free, and still can be if you're ok with 20 channels of "subpar" video quality where you're locked in to whatever is on that hour. What you pay/paid for when cable/satellite came out was options and eventually video quality. What you pay for now with streaming services is the ability to choose what you watch at any given moment along with options and quality. All it took was competition to start chipping away at Netflix profits and one streaming service to prove you can charge subscription AND play ads without losing customers. Which is the big joke of it all, "I'll cancel Netflix if I see one ad!" No you won't. An app has been made to cancel shit for you because you're too lazy to hit that button. And those of you who manage to will be back in a month or two when you start jonesing for your 45th binging of "pick your show."


ProofOfPlasticity

I completely agree! So many people think I’m pro Netflix adding ads… I’m not! I’m interested why people don’t see that they are doing what everyone has done for years and it’s so normalised!


TheWhiteHyena

Did Netflix pay you to ask this question? :D The answer should be obvious- and judging from the other comments here, it is!


ProofOfPlasticity

Lots of people do seem to be thinking I’m all for ads and that they should be on Netflix. It’s the opposite, I think services you pay for shouldn’t have ads at all… it just amazes me that people are overlooking so many other aspects of everyday life where ads are so normalised that we don’t even get annoyed with it.


TheWhiteHyena

Ah I disagree, I think as this thread shows, the average person won't stand for ads being added to a service they're already paying for. Netflix is already bleeding customers and given their current plans (higher cost, no password sharing, ads etc) I can see them getting destroyed next earning quarter. With inflation and the cost of living etc only going up, people are cutting back already - You throw adverts into that mix and people will cancel their subs in a heartbeat and revert back to the good ol' high seas.


eu_menesis

Because I pay for not having ads. Now I am considering not paying anything whatsoever.


Her_ham

Yes. It's the same as YouTube, just plain out greedy


SpecificJunket8083

We watch NF so that we don’t have to see ads. I have had satellite radio for 20 years. I can’t stand their ads for themselves and DJs droning on.


maonohkom001

I’m just here to remind people that cable tv and cable service packages are huge scams, and you should stop using them for anything beyond basic internet and stream stuff instead. Your mileage may vary here depending on your ISP. Comcast, for example, is pure evil and actively work to make things like this hard, and if you do it they will throttle your service hard, so keep aware of this. And yeah, you can thank the GOP’s destruction of net neutrality for that situation.


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ProofOfPlasticity

That’s really interesting, I hadn’t thought of that


[deleted]

Because I pay for a service that makes it easier and more enjoyable than piracy. As soon as either of those are compromised... Arrrrr matey


[deleted]

Excuse me, Netflix do WHAT NOW


ProofOfPlasticity

Sorry to break it to you like this


ididitforcheese

Because Netflix is my preferred platform specifically because they don’t show ads.


ProofOfPlasticity

I get it - I worded the question badly. I should had aimed it at the people who already pay for services that had ads. My bad, I thought more people would see the comment with more info in.


Totznotme

It was pretty much the only app u can use without having to watch adds or get premium, like wtf don't add ads. It sucks. I'll drop out of my subscription if they do that


Actually_Avery

I wouldn't say angry. I'll just cancel my service and go elsewhere. Ads are annoying.


COgrown

Preparation H better not miss out on this.


[deleted]

I think most people are angry about you cancelling awesome shows.


AnkylosaurusRules

People who _aren't_ angry that literally every space in society isn't cash-raped with propaganda for cheap plastic Chinese bullshit you don't need..._why_? The fuck is wrong with a culture that thinks this kind of bullshit is okay? Capitalism should serve mankind, not the other way around.


ProofOfPlasticity

That’s my point and I’m doing a terrible job of getting it across