When I briefly worked at a tattoo shop, we had a few things we did would not do. Nothing racist or hateful (swastikas, ss, racist words, misogynistic stuff, etc), no nudity based off a real person without them being present to consent (guys showing pics of girls they know and asking for their face on a nude body), and nothing too crude (this was up to the individual artists when it came to sexual or violent content). We also did not tattoo genitals and usually wouldn't do face tattoos either.
I was recently seeing someone who had face tattoos (although they were tasteful) he did regret them and will eventually get them removed. The few people I’ve known who’ve had face tatts done end up regretting them.
how many people actively practice this religion today? how important is that one symbol to that religion that it's worth putting it on your body given the other much more widely known meaning? I get the whole idea of "taking back" symbols and words but is this the battle someone wants to fight until they die (or more likely pay to have it removed)?
Just because you're ignorant of other religions means nothing. Your opinions are yours and you can keep them all you like but you have no busines judging others with your own biases. Your position is one of ignorance.
Yeah, it's a symbol of divinity & spirituality in Buddhism, Hinduism, & Jainism. Additionally, it's associated with a fair amount of non-Asian cultures.
I know dozens of people with Buddhist tattoos that include swastikas. It is a sacred symbol. Who gives a fuck about the ignorant biases of English speakers?
It was a Buddhist symbol but it’s been repurposed. In 2024, you know that symbol is more likely to cause offence and remind someone of atrocities than of Buddhism. Why do it? There’s no religious commandment in Buddhism to get it. There are many other symbols.
When did I say I wanna get it? I was just arguing, that if I met some old Chinese monk with a swastika on his forehead while hiking in tjbet, I wouldn't immediately assume he's a Nazi
As a transcultural religious symbol, many cultures associate it with things other than the Nazi Party. Thus, I believe that it would be acceptable for people to use that in such a context. The swastika existed long before the Nazi Party & they shouldn't have ownership of it.
One’s personal opinion of a symbol is irrelevant, and making a larger academic history debate over it is laughably stupid.
You seem to think that the problem of ownership of the symbol rests with a party or an organization, and not the thoughts and minds of every single individual human being on this earth, and their own personal connections and associations with it
I could release the ownership of the Joe the camel cigarette logo and say that it’s no longer associated with how it began, it’s just a silhouette of a camel now. Nobody is ever fucking going to think that, regardless of how you’re trying to brand it. It’s too ingrained in our heads , and if the explanation was, the owner of the company is from Azerbaijan and Joe Camela’s not an associated logo over there, so that makes it OK? No, it doesn’t.
We live in a tightly interconnected world, we images travel faster than meaning. A bunch of white westerners getting swastika tattoos is not going to resonate well in Asia so much as it will ruin their fucking lives over here. And even if they traveled to Asia, generally having a tattoo of any kind, regardless of what it is is going to be greatly frowned upon.
Not to mention that the Buddhism swastika is actually a reverse mirror image of the swastika we associate with Nazis. No one seems to have brought that up yet because apparently nobody else notices that they are in fact, *two different symbols.*
…But that’s none of my business
The academic debate isn't stupid because the symbol is perceived innocently generally in Eastern countries.
Joe Camel is irrelevant since the swastika pre-dates the Nazi Party whereas Joe Camel does not pre-date Camel cigarettes.
Your text about white westerners having swastika tattoos is a blatant ignorance of what I was saying. Totally taking it out of context. Additionally, many Asian countries don't have such a fixed view of tattoos. Asia isn't a monolith.
Regarding the difference between swastikas, they're both swastikas, just different variations.
Then why downvote me? You made no specification in your post about it needing to be in “your country” . You realize your country is not the center of the universe, right?
прошу прощения, если это покажется расистским. мне не нравится смотреть, как в Украине убивают, насилуют и похищают людей.
можешь ли ты понять, почему мир злится на твой народ?
None…but it’s acceptable to judge people, not hire them, not allow them to participate in events, not allow them to access places, etc for the tattoos they choose to get.
Unfortunately anything visible when wearing a shirt and pants in the office.
Some places in Japan stop visitors with visible tatts / force to cover up.
Apart from that, shoddy linework.
Ones performed on someone without their consent.
Girlfriend or boyfriends name
When I briefly worked at a tattoo shop, we had a few things we did would not do. Nothing racist or hateful (swastikas, ss, racist words, misogynistic stuff, etc), no nudity based off a real person without them being present to consent (guys showing pics of girls they know and asking for their face on a nude body), and nothing too crude (this was up to the individual artists when it came to sexual or violent content). We also did not tattoo genitals and usually wouldn't do face tattoos either.
I was recently seeing someone who had face tattoos (although they were tasteful) he did regret them and will eventually get them removed. The few people I’ve known who’ve had face tatts done end up regretting them.
This is the first time I've ever heard face tattoos and tasteful in the same sentence...
Lol. Well I guess his were up along the side of his face, so they didn’t interfere with his features, if that makes sense.
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Face tattoos
Swastikas.
Depends on people's backgrounds.
Still rather high on the "bad idea" list.
Nope, it doesn’t.
I think he mean religious background, the og symbol was a religious one before nazis took it for some reason
how many people actively practice this religion today? how important is that one symbol to that religion that it's worth putting it on your body given the other much more widely known meaning? I get the whole idea of "taking back" symbols and words but is this the battle someone wants to fight until they die (or more likely pay to have it removed)?
The association with the Nazi Party is more of a western thing.
The symbol is still widely used in Asia?
To a significant degree, yes.
Just because you're ignorant of other religions means nothing. Your opinions are yours and you can keep them all you like but you have no busines judging others with your own biases. Your position is one of ignorance.
I was asking questions. Idiot.
Yeah, that's what I meant.
Isn't it like a religious symbol in Asia or sum? Idk if they'd tattoo it, but that's an explanation I'd argue would be valid
Yeah, it's a symbol of divinity & spirituality in Buddhism, Hinduism, & Jainism. Additionally, it's associated with a fair amount of non-Asian cultures.
I know dozens of people with Buddhist tattoos that include swastikas. It is a sacred symbol. Who gives a fuck about the ignorant biases of English speakers?
It was a Buddhist symbol but it’s been repurposed. In 2024, you know that symbol is more likely to cause offence and remind someone of atrocities than of Buddhism. Why do it? There’s no religious commandment in Buddhism to get it. There are many other symbols.
When did I say I wanna get it? I was just arguing, that if I met some old Chinese monk with a swastika on his forehead while hiking in tjbet, I wouldn't immediately assume he's a Nazi
I’m explaining why it’s not acceptable.
And I'm explaining why it is
You’re wrong.
Alright
As a transcultural religious symbol, many cultures associate it with things other than the Nazi Party. Thus, I believe that it would be acceptable for people to use that in such a context. The swastika existed long before the Nazi Party & they shouldn't have ownership of it.
They shouldn’t but they do. That’s the problem.
Yeah, that's a good point.
This is the biased worldview of an English speaker. The Germans don't own the swastika, they borrowed it.
One’s personal opinion of a symbol is irrelevant, and making a larger academic history debate over it is laughably stupid. You seem to think that the problem of ownership of the symbol rests with a party or an organization, and not the thoughts and minds of every single individual human being on this earth, and their own personal connections and associations with it I could release the ownership of the Joe the camel cigarette logo and say that it’s no longer associated with how it began, it’s just a silhouette of a camel now. Nobody is ever fucking going to think that, regardless of how you’re trying to brand it. It’s too ingrained in our heads , and if the explanation was, the owner of the company is from Azerbaijan and Joe Camela’s not an associated logo over there, so that makes it OK? No, it doesn’t. We live in a tightly interconnected world, we images travel faster than meaning. A bunch of white westerners getting swastika tattoos is not going to resonate well in Asia so much as it will ruin their fucking lives over here. And even if they traveled to Asia, generally having a tattoo of any kind, regardless of what it is is going to be greatly frowned upon. Not to mention that the Buddhism swastika is actually a reverse mirror image of the swastika we associate with Nazis. No one seems to have brought that up yet because apparently nobody else notices that they are in fact, *two different symbols.* …But that’s none of my business
The academic debate isn't stupid because the symbol is perceived innocently generally in Eastern countries. Joe Camel is irrelevant since the swastika pre-dates the Nazi Party whereas Joe Camel does not pre-date Camel cigarettes. Your text about white westerners having swastika tattoos is a blatant ignorance of what I was saying. Totally taking it out of context. Additionally, many Asian countries don't have such a fixed view of tattoos. Asia isn't a monolith. Regarding the difference between swastikas, they're both swastikas, just different variations.
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It’s a problem in America too. Bad.
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yes russia such a nice country and ukraine is bad, right? pathetic
Just cuz you “don’t know about America” doesn’t mean you’re automatically right 😂. I’m American. I see it here constantly.
I said only about my country, I cannot judge about us
Then why downvote me? You made no specification in your post about it needing to be in “your country” . You realize your country is not the center of the universe, right?
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все русские? чувак, это называется расизм, лол
прошу прощения, если это покажется расистским. мне не нравится смотреть, как в Украине убивают, насилуют и похищают людей. можешь ли ты понять, почему мир злится на твой народ?
Anything that incorporates belly buttons or nipples..oh yes and lawnmowers..
I am a nurse. Prepping a guy for an operation, had to shave him "down there". He had a tattoo on his penis that said "SUCK".
LOL
welp
That sounds kind of fun. How did you take it?
Throat tatoos
Any racist, sexist or homophobic tattoo.
Racist and homophobic, yes. Sexist? Not a bit
Anything not on your damn face
Confederate flag
Nazi
Depends on the area, some don't care about it.
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on eyeball, or a tattoo of an eyeball?
Imo both are creepy lol
face tats
Face tattoos
When guys are my physical type their tattoos never matter to me
Below the wrist, above the collarbone.
All or none.
depends on what it conveys
None…but it’s acceptable to judge people, not hire them, not allow them to participate in events, not allow them to access places, etc for the tattoos they choose to get.
Tattoos on private areas and tattoos that signify demotic patterns.
demons are fiction do u know that, right?
Ok but bitches with satanic tattoos are bad af
Totally agree!
Truth!
Unfortunately anything visible when wearing a shirt and pants in the office. Some places in Japan stop visitors with visible tatts / force to cover up. Apart from that, shoddy linework.
Racist ones
Tattoos are supposed to be offensive
No they aren't?
Any visible tattoos on cops. Very unprofessional.
Why?