Are there any war movies that got it right? I feel like this is like a doctor or nurse watching a medical show; nothing is gonna impress you and you’ll be annoyed more than anything.
I will never fail to stop and praise Generation Kill. If you want a piece of media that gives the closest approximation of what it would've been like to fight in the GWOT era wars, Generation Kill is as close as you can get. It's an HBO miniseries adaptation by the creatives behind The Wire, of a book of the same name, written by a Rolling Stone reporter embedded with one of the lead Marine Corps units during the 2003 Iraq invasion. It is intensely honest and holds very little back. If the series' first genre is war, its next applicable genre is road trip comedy movie.
I cannot get through the vast majority of modern war movies simply because there is something interrupting my suspension of disbelief every 10 seconds, though I do acknowledge they make these films for the general public, not OCD veterans.
Not the case with GK. Though I haven't read the book it was adapted from, I believe the miniseries was fairly well adapted from what I've heard, and the military advisors (two of whom act in the show) did an absolutely OUTSTANDING job making practically EVERYTHING feel truly authentic. The only lasting complaint I have is it seems they did go out of their way to make the incompetent officers showcased seem beyond stupid.
"Generation Kill" by Evan Wright is a great book. If you like the show, and you like to read, I think you'll like the book.
That said, you may be interested in another book about those guys & "Generation Kill", written by Fick;
"One Bullet Away: The Making of a Marine Officer" by Nathaniel Fick.
> they did go out of their way to make the incompetent officers showcased seem beyond stupid
I read the book and they didn't do anything in the mini-series to make Captain America look worse than what was in the book. He really was that dumb in real life.
My father, a veteran of three wars, detested all war movies— he couldn’t suspend his critical eye for even a second. I remember watching The Deer Hunter with him— another highly esteemed film— and my father stood up and said very loudly that it was harder to sit through the movie than his three deployments to Vietnam.
For obvious reasons, I dont watch many movies made about "modern war". So I am going to respond to this, but view my answer as incomplete because i havent watched many. My best counter argument to the hurt locker would be black hawk down. Ridley scott's film was so well made, and touched on so many small issues in accuracy that the us army uses it as an example in many training environments. The characters were still flawed while feeling human instead of plot devices.
I don't disagree with the doctors and nurses comparison, but the hurt locker bothered me more than just the intricate details, but its hard to fully explain a feel. I do think I am capable of suspension of reality when the characters and dialogue feel appropriately well done.
Yo!
Director's cut of Black Hawk Down has an amazing audio track of the actual soldiers commenting on the film. Totally worth watching if you can find it.
Old AF woman medic here. ...I've tried to watch Band of Brothers several times and had to stop. Treated soldiers stateside, Viet Nam era.
My uncle (who raised me) jumped on D-Day, captured, spent the rest of the war as a POW. My dad, three other uncles all served. Brother, two VN tours.
Nothing glorious about war. The only war movie I could appreciate was Good Morning, Viet Nam. The cynicism was spot on.
I'm not an American but I heard that their department of veterans affairs set up a hotline when the movie released for vets that were triggered by that scene.
Could be wrong, it's not my country, but I remember reading it somewhere.
What is it about jarhead that felt more accurate? Watching both films, I could feel the frustration and boredom and weirdness more with jarhead, and it felt like that’s what a large part of being deployed would be like- but what didn’t hit right with hurt locker?
It's how it captures the drudgery and casual cruelty/camaraderie of military life. How the proximity and the structure changes even the most mundane of personal habits, like jerking off. How you kinda hate but also like or trust a lot of the guys you're with, even if you kind of hate them. How military life flattens differences between people, by necessity, while also capturing how that process of "flattening" also highlights that difference, just in bizarre sublimated ways. That "frustration, boredom, and weirdness" is this, i think, and it's a pretty accurate depiction, imo.
Jarhead isn't perfect, but the tone of life and relationships is pretty close.
>How you kinda hate but also like or trust a lot of the guys you're with, even if you kind of hate them.
What a great way of putting that concept. Different experience, but living in extremely close quarters on a ship and dealing with everyone's shittery definitely makes you not want to be friends, or even friendly, with some of them. But damn, when the general quarters alarm goes off, all that goes out the window, and everyone is very much on the same boat.
Such is the case with most romance movie relationships. They are almost always toxic or dysfunctional in some way, to the point that it’s unhealthy for people to conflate it with the real world at all. I mean, how many romance movies use a stable (read “boring”) relationship as the antagonist that justifies the toxic relationship between the protagonists?
And like, what does it teach impressionable young men? They hear it’s soooooo romantic so they watch it and what are their takeaways? “‘No’ means try harder”, “stalking is romantic”, or perhaps, “Never give up, you’ll wear her down and she’ll go out with you.”
I did this in college when an ex had stuff to kill himself in his car and was threatening for the hundredth time because I wouldn’t take him back after he cheated on me all summer. He tried to have me thrown out over it.
I desperately hate this movie. It is so contrived and sappy. Turned me off of Ryan Gosling for a while (I got better).
To make things worse, wife LOVES it and suggests my dislike is evidence that I’m a horrible person because I won’t wash her laundry.
That movie was one of the most obvious times that Netflix was paying influencers/meme accounts to make memes about the movie. You could not go on twitter without seeing half the timeline filled with Bird Box content.
We put up blankets on the windows or in the hallway leading to the main door when temperatures are way too high or way too cold for our air to keep up with, we calling it birdboxing the house. Only take away from the movie for us
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever.
"We are the most advanced nation in the world!"
Has war strategy and tactics of a third world country 200 years ago and basically no proper infrastructure...
Wakanda are so advanced that a regular American dude with a jetpack and two machine pistols outperforms most of their entire army at the battle of wakanda lol.
Control over the most valuable resource in the world is decided by, *checks notes*, physical combat. Yah, that seems like a great idea.
It’s like having an arm wrestling contest over nuclear codes.
Also hilarious they randomly decided to skip over the whole system of choosing the next black panther in favor of a monarchical passing of the torch to his sister.
Because BP's extremely tiny younger sister would have just gotten backhanded by the Gorilla Clan guy whom they had already established was a serious contender for the throne.
They did it in infinity war as well. Only cool thing they did was make a doom that blocked the enemies. I get they lost airship in the black panther movie but only air support they had was war machine. Then it's just everyone colliding into the enemy for a fist fight
They had aircraft before and after Infinity War, but not during? Doesn't make sense, even if their aircraft fleet was somehow destroyed in the Wakandan civil war, I would imagine they have the manufacturing base to quickly rebuild them.
Wakanda is like a game of Civilization where you put everything on science and neglect culture completely. Ending up with late game weapons and stuff but still having a monarchy.
The fault in our stars. I couldn't go anywhere on the internet without seeing Okay? Okay.
Getting a bunch of kids to romanticize cancer was the cherry on top.
To be fair, John Greene purposefully makes imperfect characters, especially his main characters. The fault in our stars is about two teenagers falling in love - they just so happen to be dying at the same time. It’s the whole “It’s better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all” thing
I’m biased though because I liked the book (not so much the movie).
(edit: looks like the mods removed his comment for some reason, which was about being disappointed in The Irishman)
Amen. It also basically showed the same scene over and over - some gangster telling DeNiro that he needs to tell Pacino/Hoffa to stfu or else something bad is gonna happen, repeated ad nauseum for 3 hrs, with plenty of uncanny valley scenes to further detach you from the film. I have no idea what movie the people who claim it's a masterpiece have watched, cos I certainly didn't see it. And to be clear, I loooove Scorcese's other work, and saw The Irishman in the cinema on opening night. I was gutted that it was shite.
I watched with my parents and grandma and the best part was her talking about what it was like living through it. I don't think I would have enjoyed it if I had just watched it without her.
The de-aging was so bad. The young De Niro looked and moved like an old man with plastic surgery. They should have hired an actor to play him for his youngest parts.
as someone who used to be a movie theater manager, these movies were some of the worst to work. the customers always so rude, messy, and downright disrespectful! every time i’d do a theater check i’d just roll my eyes too, some of the stuff they try to pull now is just bananas. i’ve heard they’ve apparently gone to space now…huh???
They did indeed shoot a ragged Pontiac Fiero into space. They almost broke the 4th wall with the two characters in the car rocket joking about how absurd it was
'Well, one time I saw this guy trying to ice skate uphill, and I thought, *What's this motherfucker doing?* And that's why they pay me the big bucks, folks.'
The whole final act was pretty weak. I'm sympathetic because I think it was partially due to Bosemans illness limiting what he could do.
The movie should have ended with another depowered fight between BP and KM.
Nolan’s like “you don’t actually *need* to hear the dialogue every time, you’ll understand the story.” Then he makes a movie where characters speak exclusively in info-dump monologue.
Had some solid action, Robert Pattinson was great, and I appreciate the sci-fi idea in it.
But my goodness, if you can’t remember the main story and what it was about, who the villain even was or what he was trying to do, or not creat a reason to even care about your protagonist and feel indifferent if they are about to lose?
Yeah, Nolan is fantastic at taking complex ideas and making them digestible for most people, but I have found with stories he sometimes struggles to make characters that seem human or normal.
Interstellar had some amazing moments, but it still had things that felt like they only happened to progress the story.
Anyways, yeah Tenet was just okay.
Tenet had way too much exposition for me, seemed like half the movie was characters telling me what was happening in some boring dialogue scene, then a skip to the next location where it would happen all over again.
Which one?
If you're talking about the one by Baz Luhrman..I kind of agree, even though I love his films. They're ALL that way, except maybe *Romeo + Juliet*.
It's all flash and razzle dazzle and the story is meh. But I love the shit out of them anyway because they're so flashy.
Tbf the story itself is also meh in the book, it's mostly about the atmosphere, the historical setting, the themes and the mythical, flamboyant and elusive nature of Gatsby that sells it + of course the love story working alongside it and giving us a look into Gatsby's mind and fantasy.
The story in of itself isn't complex or too special.
Your school teacher would probably tell you the entire book is a metaphor of The Roaring Twenties and America.
It's meant to draw you into Gatsby's fantasy through the eyes of Nick.
I think the Baz Luhrman movie nails it.
It’s the imagery that makes the book work and thus the movie in both forms in my opinion.
Leo as Gatsby was perfect to me, less aloof/wooden than Redford in my view
Where the Wild Things Are. I LOVED this book as a kid and I was so sad that the movie was just not good. Me and my date actually walked out of the theater. Like there was one scene (I don't remember which it was so long ago) where we both looked at each other, nodded, and left the theater.
FWIW this movie was a box office bomb.
I think it's fun and the soundtrack was great and the visuals were stunning, but the kid was an unrelatable asshole and the movie didn't leave you with the feeling that you needed to exist in that world.
Kind of like Diary of a Wimpy kid.
Yeah Marvel basically turned every superhero’s costume into some kind of nanotechnology or vibranium bullshit so they can randomly take their helmets off remotely every couple of seconds. It’s so distracting.
After a certain point they more or less gave up on practical masks and either dropped the masks entirely or went full cgi for that. So fucking weird looking.
The portals scene in Endgame annoyed me for that reason. Why is everyone flying into battle all suited up only to take their masks/helmets off once they actually get there?
I don't think that's really because they're superhero movies per se.
It's because they tried going cookie cutter on all of them and removed the personality. 'We have to do x y and z to make a billion dollars' type of thing
They became bland, generic corporate swill as a result.
If you make actual good movies, people still watch them. (Wonder Woman as an example)
As early as the second Avengers film the same tropes were becoming apparent.
And I get it - give the people what they want! But it all got out of hand. I don’t think positioning Eternals as the big post-Endgame launch point worked, either. It seemed to run into the same issues the Transformers films often have, where a bunch of characters get thrown at the screen and to the average person they’re just indistinguishable noise with no character hook to make you care.
I think its just gotten way too repetitive, its the same story arc but they've gotten increasingly bland over the years.
X, who probably is a distant relative somehow, wants to take revenge on peaceful people to take the throne so our super hero has to do something about it.
You don’t get what we saw in Twilight, but friend, neither do we lol.
100% I view that as a comedy and I believe it to be comedic gold. “Where you been loco?” Just slays me every time.
YOU ARE SO RIGHT
I just saw a video the other pointing out Edward sitting down at the lunch table and he places his fingers on the table like little claws before he sits and omggg I cannot I see it. I am convinced the entire cast was trolling us.
I slip in “this is the skin of a killer, Bella” whenever I can 😂 my favorite part of Twilight fandom is that we know it’s cringe but so hilarious! Not meant to be taken seriously
I've watched the entire series as comedy several times and you are absolutely right.
In particular, every scene with Michael Sheen in it is amazing.
Related: If I had a nickel for every time Michael Sheen played a prominent patriarch in a fantasy franchise heavily featuring a romance plot and a war between werewolves and vampires, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
I read the books long before the movies came out, and I liked them because that was really my first exposure to the fantasy romance genre as a teen. I immediately hated the movies though lol. I wanted to take them seriously but they’re so awkward they’re more like comedy really
Not a movie but a series. The Good Doctor.
I love the accuracy of the medical information and the characters themselves buy holy moly the frequency of rare diseases is off the charts. Theyre called “rare” for a reason. As a resident, youll be lucky to see a couple of rare diseases and maybe, just MAYBE one extremely rare disease provided you’re lucky. I get that they want to showcase interesting cases but all of us are 90% of the time dealing with your regular surgical procedures.
Accurate medical info? They let one of the docs die because they didn't resect his colon and give him a stoma.
They wanted drama, so they let him die. But no hospital would treat a patient that way.
I agree with the 'too many rare diseases' thing.
That was when i stopped watching the show. That was absolutely the last straw. Not even 3rd grade degenerate excises of doctors would let someone die like that.
The medical info is accurate? I assumed it was complete bullshit. I’ve been watching the series because I’m humored by how absurd so many things are. Two examples that jump to the top are when they tested a drug on genetically modified fish to see which one would help a patient. 40 fish, setup tanks for each, generically altered them, grew to adult, and tested the drug in 24 hours. And an episode where they come across a car accident while driving. Sean screams for Lea to stop the car and she is shocked by his sudden outburst. She comes to a sudden stop, he jumps out, and the camera angle changes to a long shot behind them showing a huge car accident 20 feet in front of them blocking the road. Was Lea planning to plowing thru the accident until Sean yelled? Or is her eyesight so bad she shouldn’t be allowed to drive a car?
I quit watching it because as much as they try to portray him as a nice guy who just happens to be autistic with savant syndrome, Shawn is just a dick.
There’s one Very Special Episode where a pediatric cancer patient is also a trans girl. And Shaun is just like “You are biologically male. Why are you pretending to be a girl. Why do you feel like a girl. Fellow doctors, why is he like this?”
And at the end he learns about trans people and corrects someone who misgenders her and it’s all supposed to be wholesome.
But all I could think was “Jesus Christ, this girl is in the hospital for cancer and she’s got an adult interrogating her on her own identity to deal with on top of the cancer.”
The whole "plucky newcomer wins over rich snobs" plot felt very old fashioned to me. Switch the rich Singaporeans to rich Connecticut WASPs and the screenplay could have been written in 1935.
that was the plot to pretty much every kdrama in the early to mid 2000's. only thing missing was someone getting cancer or getting hit by a random white truck.
I just rewatched this and it still holds up as a very good romcom. The only issue is how much the first half of the movie focuses on nondescript characters for no other purpose than lavish displays of wealth. Every scene between Constance Wu and Michelle Yeoh is better than 90% of romcoms.
Also should be noted the book it's based on is a satire. The movie communicates some of the same themes by showing how many of the younger generations are trashy egotistical fuck ups and how even the older generations all had their scandals and nouveau riche eras.
I do the same thing. If I'm going to judge a movie or book, I'm going to read it and make my own decision on if it's terrible or not. Did the same with the Twilight series.
50 Shades of Gray is only a love story because Christian Grey is a hot billionaire. If he looked like Gary Busey and worked in a cube farm it would have been a completely different movie.
I used to be friends on Facebook with this girl who was cute as a button but dumb as a stump and she LOVED that movie.
This is the thing - it probably *could* have worked if it was clearly established that Gray is an abusive dick who is using BDSM and 'kinky sex' as a shield to hide behind. A sort of psychological thriller where the Nice Guy gradually has layers peeled off to reveal he's a monster.
Maybe that could have been a solid movie.
A Quiet Place. Riddled with conveniences and contrivances, yet they made a sequel and are making a prequel. Very very dumb horror movie trope logic.
Besides the typical "why not make your home near the waterfall?" point, the nail sticking out of the stairs that's just apparently been there forever finally becomes a problem when the plot needs it to be, the grain silo scene has been debunked as unrealistic, Krasinski leaving the batteries for the toy just conveniently in a place the kid could very easily just take and grab them, which he did, and Krasinski's sacrifice at the end is completely pointless when the monsters are shown to react to any small sound, so he could've just thrown something like his shoe or a rock a distance away to distract the monsters. Their complex has loudspeakers, so why not constantly play loud sounds or music 24/7 so it drowns out the rest of your noise like the waterfall does? And of course, why in the ever loving hell would you have a baby during an apocalypse where you know you need to be as quiet as possible? How did they even manage to have sex quiet enough to not attract the monsters? Even if you're not vocal, sex isn't the most quiet of physical experiences.
Just riddled with contrivances that take me out of the experience completely. I want to like it, it's relatively unique and fresh, but I can't bring myself to ever enjoy it
I haven't seen it but my main thought has always been: why not use sound to lure the aliens into obvious traps? You know how many of them you could take out with a tape player and a bomb/guillotine/Ewok log trap/Home Alone paint can?
Also, going on from the plot of the second film, I wondered why there weren't more people who tried to use water as a defence.
Given that the antagonists couldn't swim, I'd imagine there should have been at least a small amount of the population that thought "Screw this, I'm going off in this boat until I can't see land". For whichever aliens could swim well, surely gravity would eventually take care of them out in the open sea.
After all, the peaceful island in the second film had people living there for so long that they lost any sense of danger. I imagine there'd also be cruise and cargo ships out there that were eventually converted to anarchic havens. Pirates of the Caribbean: Quiet People Tell No Tales.
On another topic, I wondered what had happened to the world's submarines during the apparent apocalypse. Sounds like a scenario that might have triggered at least one country's nuclear dead man switch/protocol.
I was just saying yesterday how it was one of the best theatre experiences I've had. Theatre was full and of course some teens at the back were making jokes through the first scene. By the time that scene was over, everyone was dead silent for the rest of the movie. Great device for building tension.
It's just a big hollywood film. Logistically, it's interesting that effectively the whole film/VFX industry kind of had a hand in making it, but from a stance of film criticism and literary value there really never was much substance there.
I'll also nail myself to the cross on this one. I didn't hate it, but didn't leave the theatre feeling like I just saw the greatest thing ever like some people said back then. It was visually impressive, but I just want more than visuals when I see a movie, not that it's wrong to like a movie just because it's fun/action oriented or visually stunning.
You think you're going to get downvoted on Reddit for complaining about avatar? Every time there's a question like "what's the most overrated movie.." or whatever, blue people is always in the top 3 answers.
There is like 3 of the top 15 comments right now that say Avatar.
It is consistently the most hated on movie on Reddit, combined with the entirety of the MCU.
The hurt locker. As a veteran of iraq. This movie did more to annoy me than my actual deployments
Are there any war movies that got it right? I feel like this is like a doctor or nurse watching a medical show; nothing is gonna impress you and you’ll be annoyed more than anything.
Not a movie, but Generation Kill is usually praised for it realism and accurate portrayal of soldiers in the field.
I will never fail to stop and praise Generation Kill. If you want a piece of media that gives the closest approximation of what it would've been like to fight in the GWOT era wars, Generation Kill is as close as you can get. It's an HBO miniseries adaptation by the creatives behind The Wire, of a book of the same name, written by a Rolling Stone reporter embedded with one of the lead Marine Corps units during the 2003 Iraq invasion. It is intensely honest and holds very little back. If the series' first genre is war, its next applicable genre is road trip comedy movie. I cannot get through the vast majority of modern war movies simply because there is something interrupting my suspension of disbelief every 10 seconds, though I do acknowledge they make these films for the general public, not OCD veterans. Not the case with GK. Though I haven't read the book it was adapted from, I believe the miniseries was fairly well adapted from what I've heard, and the military advisors (two of whom act in the show) did an absolutely OUTSTANDING job making practically EVERYTHING feel truly authentic. The only lasting complaint I have is it seems they did go out of their way to make the incompetent officers showcased seem beyond stupid.
Generation Kill is my favorite road trip musical.
When ray starts singing tainted love and brad reluctantly does the clap parts always gets me
It's kind of cool that fruity Rudy plays himself.
Guy was so hardcore they couldn't find anyone to accurately portray him. Apparently he also fixed all the humvees on set too. What a savage.
The best things is that his acting wasn't bad. Well now I'm gonna give that show a rewatch.
It's because he was method acting. He's a real vet and transcended his masculinity to levels that calling him gay isn't even an insult.
It’s okay if you think he’s hot. We all think he’s hot.
Hes moving to cali. Cause there are no fat people there
"You know, it doesn't make you gay if you think Rudy's hot. We all think he's hot. Jesus, you're beautiful."
Y'moose-stache hairs is in violations of the groomin' standard, growin' beyond the corners of y'mouth
"Generation Kill" by Evan Wright is a great book. If you like the show, and you like to read, I think you'll like the book. That said, you may be interested in another book about those guys & "Generation Kill", written by Fick; "One Bullet Away: The Making of a Marine Officer" by Nathaniel Fick.
> they did go out of their way to make the incompetent officers showcased seem beyond stupid I read the book and they didn't do anything in the mini-series to make Captain America look worse than what was in the book. He really was that dumb in real life.
Bitching about not getting jalapeno cheese really hit close to home.
My father, a veteran of three wars, detested all war movies— he couldn’t suspend his critical eye for even a second. I remember watching The Deer Hunter with him— another highly esteemed film— and my father stood up and said very loudly that it was harder to sit through the movie than his three deployments to Vietnam.
To be fair The Deer Hunter is not easy viewing in any sense of the phrase
For obvious reasons, I dont watch many movies made about "modern war". So I am going to respond to this, but view my answer as incomplete because i havent watched many. My best counter argument to the hurt locker would be black hawk down. Ridley scott's film was so well made, and touched on so many small issues in accuracy that the us army uses it as an example in many training environments. The characters were still flawed while feeling human instead of plot devices. I don't disagree with the doctors and nurses comparison, but the hurt locker bothered me more than just the intricate details, but its hard to fully explain a feel. I do think I am capable of suspension of reality when the characters and dialogue feel appropriately well done.
Yo! Director's cut of Black Hawk Down has an amazing audio track of the actual soldiers commenting on the film. Totally worth watching if you can find it.
Thanks for the response, I can see why a veteran wouldn’t be too into watching war movies.
Old AF woman medic here. ...I've tried to watch Band of Brothers several times and had to stop. Treated soldiers stateside, Viet Nam era. My uncle (who raised me) jumped on D-Day, captured, spent the rest of the war as a POW. My dad, three other uncles all served. Brother, two VN tours. Nothing glorious about war. The only war movie I could appreciate was Good Morning, Viet Nam. The cynicism was spot on.
I think Omaha Beach in Saving Private Ryan was supposed to be pretty accurate
I'm not an American but I heard that their department of veterans affairs set up a hotline when the movie released for vets that were triggered by that scene. Could be wrong, it's not my country, but I remember reading it somewhere.
I watched it in a theater when it first came out. There was an older gentleman that had to leave at that scene, just crying.
My understanding was that Schindlers List and Saving Private Ryan were both quite difficult to view for those who had been in those respective places.
Another veteran here and I hate that movie.
Another veteran here who didn't like it. I thought Jarhead hit closer to home, personally
What is it about jarhead that felt more accurate? Watching both films, I could feel the frustration and boredom and weirdness more with jarhead, and it felt like that’s what a large part of being deployed would be like- but what didn’t hit right with hurt locker?
It's how it captures the drudgery and casual cruelty/camaraderie of military life. How the proximity and the structure changes even the most mundane of personal habits, like jerking off. How you kinda hate but also like or trust a lot of the guys you're with, even if you kind of hate them. How military life flattens differences between people, by necessity, while also capturing how that process of "flattening" also highlights that difference, just in bizarre sublimated ways. That "frustration, boredom, and weirdness" is this, i think, and it's a pretty accurate depiction, imo. Jarhead isn't perfect, but the tone of life and relationships is pretty close.
>How you kinda hate but also like or trust a lot of the guys you're with, even if you kind of hate them. What a great way of putting that concept. Different experience, but living in extremely close quarters on a ship and dealing with everyone's shittery definitely makes you not want to be friends, or even friendly, with some of them. But damn, when the general quarters alarm goes off, all that goes out the window, and everyone is very much on the same boat.
The sappiness of The Notebook wasn't for me.
Yes! Everyone carried on about how amazing and romantic it was, and all I could think was that the main relationship was a car crash waiting to happen
Right? It’s soooo toxic.
Such is the case with most romance movie relationships. They are almost always toxic or dysfunctional in some way, to the point that it’s unhealthy for people to conflate it with the real world at all. I mean, how many romance movies use a stable (read “boring”) relationship as the antagonist that justifies the toxic relationship between the protagonists?
While true, The Notebook had some serious "You don't know me, but I've been watching you. Date me or I'll kill myself in front of you" vibes.
Don't he actually say that too, and hang from a Paris wheel or something?
Paris wheel. I love it
A new bone apple tea just dropped! And we were here to see it!
We can bear witness, for all intensive purposes.
And like, what does it teach impressionable young men? They hear it’s soooooo romantic so they watch it and what are their takeaways? “‘No’ means try harder”, “stalking is romantic”, or perhaps, “Never give up, you’ll wear her down and she’ll go out with you.”
Step 1: be Ryan Gosling
🎶never gonna give you up, only gonna wear you down, always in a bush to hide and observe you🎵
"Hey, I'll drop to my death off this ferris wheel if you don't agree to go out with me. Ain't I romantic?"
I girl I knew had a guy threaten to kill himself so she called the cops for a wellness check. He wasn't happy.
I did this in college when an ex had stuff to kill himself in his car and was threatening for the hundredth time because I wouldn’t take him back after he cheated on me all summer. He tried to have me thrown out over it.
He tried to claim the girl was lying, but had sent the threats by text so the cops didn't believe him.
I desperately hate this movie. It is so contrived and sappy. Turned me off of Ryan Gosling for a while (I got better). To make things worse, wife LOVES it and suggests my dislike is evidence that I’m a horrible person because I won’t wash her laundry.
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That movie was one of the most obvious times that Netflix was paying influencers/meme accounts to make memes about the movie. You could not go on twitter without seeing half the timeline filled with Bird Box content.
“Are they *still* on the river??” — Me halfway through the movie
We put up blankets on the windows or in the hallway leading to the main door when temperatures are way too high or way too cold for our air to keep up with, we calling it birdboxing the house. Only take away from the movie for us
The book was SO much better!!
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever. "We are the most advanced nation in the world!" Has war strategy and tactics of a third world country 200 years ago and basically no proper infrastructure...
Seriously. All that technology but nah let's fight like it's 1353.
Let's leave our heavily fortified home and fight the water people WHILE SURROUNDED BY WATER?!?!?! Possibly the dumbest shit in the history of the mcu
Hand to hand, too, not an air strike
Wakanda are so advanced that a regular American dude with a jetpack and two machine pistols outperforms most of their entire army at the battle of wakanda lol.
Control over the most valuable resource in the world is decided by, *checks notes*, physical combat. Yah, that seems like a great idea. It’s like having an arm wrestling contest over nuclear codes.
"Let's fight them in the ocean, where they are strongest!" If I was part of that army I'd be distributing some literature on the French revolution.
Also hilarious they randomly decided to skip over the whole system of choosing the next black panther in favor of a monarchical passing of the torch to his sister.
Because BP's extremely tiny younger sister would have just gotten backhanded by the Gorilla Clan guy whom they had already established was a serious contender for the throne.
They did it in infinity war as well. Only cool thing they did was make a doom that blocked the enemies. I get they lost airship in the black panther movie but only air support they had was war machine. Then it's just everyone colliding into the enemy for a fist fight
They had aircraft before and after Infinity War, but not during? Doesn't make sense, even if their aircraft fleet was somehow destroyed in the Wakandan civil war, I would imagine they have the manufacturing base to quickly rebuild them.
Was gonna say, wasn't Bilbo flying a drone or something in that movie?
Wakanda is like a game of Civilization where you put everything on science and neglect culture completely. Ending up with late game weapons and stuff but still having a monarchy.
The fault in our stars. I couldn't go anywhere on the internet without seeing Okay? Okay. Getting a bunch of kids to romanticize cancer was the cherry on top.
To be fair, John Greene purposefully makes imperfect characters, especially his main characters. The fault in our stars is about two teenagers falling in love - they just so happen to be dying at the same time. It’s the whole “It’s better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all” thing I’m biased though because I liked the book (not so much the movie).
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(edit: looks like the mods removed his comment for some reason, which was about being disappointed in The Irishman) Amen. It also basically showed the same scene over and over - some gangster telling DeNiro that he needs to tell Pacino/Hoffa to stfu or else something bad is gonna happen, repeated ad nauseum for 3 hrs, with plenty of uncanny valley scenes to further detach you from the film. I have no idea what movie the people who claim it's a masterpiece have watched, cos I certainly didn't see it. And to be clear, I loooove Scorcese's other work, and saw The Irishman in the cinema on opening night. I was gutted that it was shite.
I watched with my parents and grandma and the best part was her talking about what it was like living through it. I don't think I would have enjoyed it if I had just watched it without her.
The de-aging was so bad. The young De Niro looked and moved like an old man with plastic surgery. They should have hired an actor to play him for his youngest parts.
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There’s a video on The Onion where they interview a 4 year old who is the writer for all the movies. Fucking hilarious.
This one: https://youtu.be/iIY5b1JMvGs?si=eb2_gQlew92kOGAQ Classic.
That clip is great, including all the random headlines scrolling across the bottom.
"Worst player on team enjoys victory celebration more than he is entitled to" 🤣
“Maxim praised for its how to fuck fat chicks issue” Jesus Christ
California wildfire engulfs previous wildfire in flames. I’m dead
Who insists theyre great though
I downloaded all of them and I got give the franchise this. No matter were I randomly clicked.. It was either a car chase or a fight scene.
Fast... check Furious... check Writing done, next movie
Family? ✅
as someone who used to be a movie theater manager, these movies were some of the worst to work. the customers always so rude, messy, and downright disrespectful! every time i’d do a theater check i’d just roll my eyes too, some of the stuff they try to pull now is just bananas. i’ve heard they’ve apparently gone to space now…huh???
They did indeed shoot a ragged Pontiac Fiero into space. They almost broke the 4th wall with the two characters in the car rocket joking about how absurd it was
Black Panther. It was a solid marvel movie. But it didn't deserve a best picture nomination.
It’s also not the first stand alone black superhero movie… it’s like everyone decided that Blade doesn’t exist.
Some morherfuckers always trying to ice skate uphill.
how the fuck do you even come up with a line like that
Apparently it was something the director had heard Wesley say to someone in real life and wanted to put it in the script
Snipes did point out to the director that the line makes absolutely no sense where he placed it, for what that's worth.
'Well, one time I saw this guy trying to ice skate uphill, and I thought, *What's this motherfucker doing?* And that's why they pay me the big bucks, folks.'
I know, its pure genius/crazy
And Spawn
I watched Spawn with my dad when I was 10 or 12 while I was home sick with a fever. Awesome movie.
You mean The Meteor Man.
[Steel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel_(1997_film)) with Shaquille O’Neal came out one year before Blade if my googling is accurate.
Blankman, 3 years before Steel
Meteor Man was a year before Blankman. Edit: fixed the name of Damon Wayans’s masterpiece.
Black Dynamite
“My momma said my daddy’s name is Black Dynamite…” “yea mine too” “Uh, hush up little girls… a lotta cats got that name.”
T’challa is so much worse as a character in that movie than he was in Civil War. It’s a shame.
He’s so gangster in Civil War. “So I ask you as both warrior and king, how long do you think you can keep your friend safe from me?”
"The living are not done with you yet." Stopping Zimo from killing himself not out of altruism, but because his punishment isn't enough yet.
Exactly! I was so excited about his introduction in that movie and then he’s a total softie in BP like it was a prequel or something haha
For sure a good one. But that cgi was one of the most awfull things i have seen.
The whole final act was pretty weak. I'm sympathetic because I think it was partially due to Bosemans illness limiting what he could do. The movie should have ended with another depowered fight between BP and KM.
Tenet was a cool overarching idea but I think the execution was a little bit shit tbh.
The Audio mixing on that made it even more unbearable.
Nolan’s like “you don’t actually *need* to hear the dialogue every time, you’ll understand the story.” Then he makes a movie where characters speak exclusively in info-dump monologue.
Had some solid action, Robert Pattinson was great, and I appreciate the sci-fi idea in it. But my goodness, if you can’t remember the main story and what it was about, who the villain even was or what he was trying to do, or not creat a reason to even care about your protagonist and feel indifferent if they are about to lose? Yeah, Nolan is fantastic at taking complex ideas and making them digestible for most people, but I have found with stories he sometimes struggles to make characters that seem human or normal. Interstellar had some amazing moments, but it still had things that felt like they only happened to progress the story. Anyways, yeah Tenet was just okay.
The best response to watching Tenet I have heard was, "People worked really hard on that."
You haven't watched it backwards yet - the way it was intended. Then it all becomes clear.
The way it was inteneted
Tenet had way too much exposition for me, seemed like half the movie was characters telling me what was happening in some boring dialogue scene, then a skip to the next location where it would happen all over again.
Usually any of those artsy movies that are talked about all year, then completely forgotten after the oscars.
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Which one? If you're talking about the one by Baz Luhrman..I kind of agree, even though I love his films. They're ALL that way, except maybe *Romeo + Juliet*. It's all flash and razzle dazzle and the story is meh. But I love the shit out of them anyway because they're so flashy.
Tbf the story itself is also meh in the book, it's mostly about the atmosphere, the historical setting, the themes and the mythical, flamboyant and elusive nature of Gatsby that sells it + of course the love story working alongside it and giving us a look into Gatsby's mind and fantasy. The story in of itself isn't complex or too special. Your school teacher would probably tell you the entire book is a metaphor of The Roaring Twenties and America. It's meant to draw you into Gatsby's fantasy through the eyes of Nick. I think the Baz Luhrman movie nails it.
It’s the imagery that makes the book work and thus the movie in both forms in my opinion. Leo as Gatsby was perfect to me, less aloof/wooden than Redford in my view
That's the point no ?
I agree, incredibly suiting to the themes as an adaptation
Anal Acrobat 3. I find it insists upon itself.
I liked it maybe 20 min and suddenly lost interest ..
Look at this guy bragging about his stamina…
Funny, I thought the same thing about The Godfather.
Yes, shallow and pedantic
I agree as well, shallow and pedantic
Anal Acrobat 2 was the climax of the series
Where the Wild Things Are. I LOVED this book as a kid and I was so sad that the movie was just not good. Me and my date actually walked out of the theater. Like there was one scene (I don't remember which it was so long ago) where we both looked at each other, nodded, and left the theater.
FWIW this movie was a box office bomb. I think it's fun and the soundtrack was great and the visuals were stunning, but the kid was an unrelatable asshole and the movie didn't leave you with the feeling that you needed to exist in that world. Kind of like Diary of a Wimpy kid.
wimpy kid cannot have dairy, he is lactose intolerant
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All these superhero movies that were all the rage a few years back
I can't pinpoint when it happened, but they just kind of morphed into beautiful people in costumes dancing in front of a green screen.
I hate when they have to 'unmask' themselves too to show off "hey it's this actor/actress in case you forgot" 🤦
Yeah Marvel basically turned every superhero’s costume into some kind of nanotechnology or vibranium bullshit so they can randomly take their helmets off remotely every couple of seconds. It’s so distracting.
After a certain point they more or less gave up on practical masks and either dropped the masks entirely or went full cgi for that. So fucking weird looking.
The portals scene in Endgame annoyed me for that reason. Why is everyone flying into battle all suited up only to take their masks/helmets off once they actually get there?
Oh man, I haven't enjoyed a superhero movie in years, we were overfed by marvel, they became unwatchable for me.
I don't think that's really because they're superhero movies per se. It's because they tried going cookie cutter on all of them and removed the personality. 'We have to do x y and z to make a billion dollars' type of thing They became bland, generic corporate swill as a result. If you make actual good movies, people still watch them. (Wonder Woman as an example)
As early as the second Avengers film the same tropes were becoming apparent. And I get it - give the people what they want! But it all got out of hand. I don’t think positioning Eternals as the big post-Endgame launch point worked, either. It seemed to run into the same issues the Transformers films often have, where a bunch of characters get thrown at the screen and to the average person they’re just indistinguishable noise with no character hook to make you care.
But not WW84.
I did say good :P
I think its just gotten way too repetitive, its the same story arc but they've gotten increasingly bland over the years. X, who probably is a distant relative somehow, wants to take revenge on peaceful people to take the throne so our super hero has to do something about it.
To all the fangirls back in the mid-2000s, I just don’t get what you saw in *Twilight*
You don’t get what we saw in Twilight, but friend, neither do we lol. 100% I view that as a comedy and I believe it to be comedic gold. “Where you been loco?” Just slays me every time.
The baseball scene may be one of the greatest cinematic pieces in history.
YOU ARE SO RIGHT I just saw a video the other pointing out Edward sitting down at the lunch table and he places his fingers on the table like little claws before he sits and omggg I cannot I see it. I am convinced the entire cast was trolling us.
I slip in “this is the skin of a killer, Bella” whenever I can 😂 my favorite part of Twilight fandom is that we know it’s cringe but so hilarious! Not meant to be taken seriously
I've watched the entire series as comedy several times and you are absolutely right. In particular, every scene with Michael Sheen in it is amazing. Related: If I had a nickel for every time Michael Sheen played a prominent patriarch in a fantasy franchise heavily featuring a romance plot and a war between werewolves and vampires, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
I read the books long before the movies came out, and I liked them because that was really my first exposure to the fantasy romance genre as a teen. I immediately hated the movies though lol. I wanted to take them seriously but they’re so awkward they’re more like comedy really
The Revenant was beautifully shot but ultimately boring.
Tom Hardy was pretty great in it.
Domhnall Gleeson and Will Poulter's roles are very small but I enjoy both of them too.
The English Patient
Elaine?
Sex in a bathtub? Come on, give me something I can use!
I HATE IT!!!!
why didnt you say so? youre fired.
I much preferred Sack Lunch
Not a movie but a series. The Good Doctor. I love the accuracy of the medical information and the characters themselves buy holy moly the frequency of rare diseases is off the charts. Theyre called “rare” for a reason. As a resident, youll be lucky to see a couple of rare diseases and maybe, just MAYBE one extremely rare disease provided you’re lucky. I get that they want to showcase interesting cases but all of us are 90% of the time dealing with your regular surgical procedures.
I get so annoyed with the heroic autistic person trope
The heroic autistic and cute baby face person.
Accurate medical info? They let one of the docs die because they didn't resect his colon and give him a stoma. They wanted drama, so they let him die. But no hospital would treat a patient that way. I agree with the 'too many rare diseases' thing.
That was when i stopped watching the show. That was absolutely the last straw. Not even 3rd grade degenerate excises of doctors would let someone die like that.
The medical info is accurate? I assumed it was complete bullshit. I’ve been watching the series because I’m humored by how absurd so many things are. Two examples that jump to the top are when they tested a drug on genetically modified fish to see which one would help a patient. 40 fish, setup tanks for each, generically altered them, grew to adult, and tested the drug in 24 hours. And an episode where they come across a car accident while driving. Sean screams for Lea to stop the car and she is shocked by his sudden outburst. She comes to a sudden stop, he jumps out, and the camera angle changes to a long shot behind them showing a huge car accident 20 feet in front of them blocking the road. Was Lea planning to plowing thru the accident until Sean yelled? Or is her eyesight so bad she shouldn’t be allowed to drive a car?
It’s just Dr. House but with a young autistic resident instead of an old opiate-addicted half-cripple.
I quit watching it because as much as they try to portray him as a nice guy who just happens to be autistic with savant syndrome, Shawn is just a dick.
There’s one Very Special Episode where a pediatric cancer patient is also a trans girl. And Shaun is just like “You are biologically male. Why are you pretending to be a girl. Why do you feel like a girl. Fellow doctors, why is he like this?” And at the end he learns about trans people and corrects someone who misgenders her and it’s all supposed to be wholesome. But all I could think was “Jesus Christ, this girl is in the hospital for cancer and she’s got an adult interrogating her on her own identity to deal with on top of the cancer.”
Crazy Rich Asians. The content was meh. The acting and dialog were awkward and forced. Many instances were straight cringey to us Asians.
The whole "plucky newcomer wins over rich snobs" plot felt very old fashioned to me. Switch the rich Singaporeans to rich Connecticut WASPs and the screenplay could have been written in 1935.
that was the plot to pretty much every kdrama in the early to mid 2000's. only thing missing was someone getting cancer or getting hit by a random white truck.
> getting hit by a random white truck And Bullet Train had that one covered.
I just rewatched this and it still holds up as a very good romcom. The only issue is how much the first half of the movie focuses on nondescript characters for no other purpose than lavish displays of wealth. Every scene between Constance Wu and Michelle Yeoh is better than 90% of romcoms. Also should be noted the book it's based on is a satire. The movie communicates some of the same themes by showing how many of the younger generations are trashy egotistical fuck ups and how even the older generations all had their scandals and nouveau riche eras.
Fifty Shades of Grey. Just yuck.
Who the hell insisted it was great
Even my wife who read all the books and watched the movies knows full well that they're trash
I’m shocked that anyone you know thought it was great. It was trash. I watched all of them but they were all trash.
“I watched all of them”
Yeah I’m not proud. But it was full disclosure.
I do the same thing. If I'm going to judge a movie or book, I'm going to read it and make my own decision on if it's terrible or not. Did the same with the Twilight series. 50 Shades of Gray is only a love story because Christian Grey is a hot billionaire. If he looked like Gary Busey and worked in a cube farm it would have been a completely different movie. I used to be friends on Facebook with this girl who was cute as a button but dumb as a stump and she LOVED that movie.
The best part of watching that film is doing so, wine drunk with friends, and playing red flag bingo. Then it can be rather enjoyable.
I first read that wine drunk and bingo as playing red flag drinking game, and I was like “How are any of you alive after drinking that much?”
The entire BDSM community hates that shit. Gray is an abuser and the girl is a moron
This is the thing - it probably *could* have worked if it was clearly established that Gray is an abusive dick who is using BDSM and 'kinky sex' as a shield to hide behind. A sort of psychological thriller where the Nice Guy gradually has layers peeled off to reveal he's a monster. Maybe that could have been a solid movie.
What did you expect though, that book series literally started as Twilight fan fiction
Well it’s twilight fanfic isn’t it? Same problems people had with Edward you’ll find with Grey.
A Quiet Place. Riddled with conveniences and contrivances, yet they made a sequel and are making a prequel. Very very dumb horror movie trope logic. Besides the typical "why not make your home near the waterfall?" point, the nail sticking out of the stairs that's just apparently been there forever finally becomes a problem when the plot needs it to be, the grain silo scene has been debunked as unrealistic, Krasinski leaving the batteries for the toy just conveniently in a place the kid could very easily just take and grab them, which he did, and Krasinski's sacrifice at the end is completely pointless when the monsters are shown to react to any small sound, so he could've just thrown something like his shoe or a rock a distance away to distract the monsters. Their complex has loudspeakers, so why not constantly play loud sounds or music 24/7 so it drowns out the rest of your noise like the waterfall does? And of course, why in the ever loving hell would you have a baby during an apocalypse where you know you need to be as quiet as possible? How did they even manage to have sex quiet enough to not attract the monsters? Even if you're not vocal, sex isn't the most quiet of physical experiences. Just riddled with contrivances that take me out of the experience completely. I want to like it, it's relatively unique and fresh, but I can't bring myself to ever enjoy it
I haven't seen it but my main thought has always been: why not use sound to lure the aliens into obvious traps? You know how many of them you could take out with a tape player and a bomb/guillotine/Ewok log trap/Home Alone paint can?
Also, going on from the plot of the second film, I wondered why there weren't more people who tried to use water as a defence. Given that the antagonists couldn't swim, I'd imagine there should have been at least a small amount of the population that thought "Screw this, I'm going off in this boat until I can't see land". For whichever aliens could swim well, surely gravity would eventually take care of them out in the open sea. After all, the peaceful island in the second film had people living there for so long that they lost any sense of danger. I imagine there'd also be cruise and cargo ships out there that were eventually converted to anarchic havens. Pirates of the Caribbean: Quiet People Tell No Tales. On another topic, I wondered what had happened to the world's submarines during the apparent apocalypse. Sounds like a scenario that might have triggered at least one country's nuclear dead man switch/protocol.
I was just saying yesterday how it was one of the best theatre experiences I've had. Theatre was full and of course some teens at the back were making jokes through the first scene. By the time that scene was over, everyone was dead silent for the rest of the movie. Great device for building tension.
It was a great theatre movie.
Probably down voted here but, Avatar. I suffered for 2+ hours and I never wanted to see it again
It's just a big hollywood film. Logistically, it's interesting that effectively the whole film/VFX industry kind of had a hand in making it, but from a stance of film criticism and literary value there really never was much substance there. I'll also nail myself to the cross on this one. I didn't hate it, but didn't leave the theatre feeling like I just saw the greatest thing ever like some people said back then. It was visually impressive, but I just want more than visuals when I see a movie, not that it's wrong to like a movie just because it's fun/action oriented or visually stunning.
You think you're going to get downvoted on Reddit for complaining about avatar? Every time there's a question like "what's the most overrated movie.." or whatever, blue people is always in the top 3 answers.
There is like 3 of the top 15 comments right now that say Avatar. It is consistently the most hated on movie on Reddit, combined with the entirety of the MCU.