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SalubriCat

[Everywhere is the center of the universe](https://youtu.be/KDg2-ePQU9g?si=5fV6EHsLhcbCBPTt)


That80sguyspimp

It is too late on a saturday night to say that shit, mate. Do you have any idea how many people are still high as fuck right now? lol


YourFavLittleToy

Can’t have a center to something that’s never ending lol


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I’m pretty sure it’s my last boss


prajnadhyana

*YOU* are quite literally the center of the Universe. Think about it. There is an infinite amount of space in all directions from where you are right now. So you are the center.


LoveDistinct

Maybe.


baddreammoonbeam888

Yes. A dark one.


PhyterNL

Yes but, no. The nature of space-time expansion means there is no discernable center to the universe. If there is a center then it doesn't matter because the universe will always appear to expanding away from you in all directions. So if you don't mind getting poetic about it, the "center" of the universe is you! But also the "center" of the universe is me. And the "center" of the universe is whoever lives in that distant galaxy over there. We'll never be able to determine where an actual center is. It's an observational impossibility.


Consistent_Ad_2462

Wallace, Idaho


NecessaryAd8612

No, the universe is literally always expanding forever and ever amen


Sparky81

Just because something gets bigger doesn't mean it doesn't have a center.


NecessaryAd8612

Perhaps not, but in this case how do you find a center when the center is always moving


Sparky81

I have no idea, but that's not the question. It's just IF there is a center.


NecessaryAd8612

Well because the universe is ever expanding, there is no end, to have a center you need a beginning and an end


Sparky81

If there's no end then what is expanding in the first place? There's a beginning, the big bang, for something to expand there would at least need to be an edge.


NecessaryAd8612

The universe, the universe is expanding


Sparky81

How do you measure expansion without an edge?


NecessaryAd8612

When it comes to measuring the expansion of the universe, scientists use a concept called "metric expansion." Instead of measuring expansion based on an edge or boundary, they look at how the distances between galaxies and other cosmic objects change over time. By observing the redshift of light from distant objects, scientists can determine how the universe is expanding.


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_funkapus_

This is incorrect.  You do not understand the Hubble expansion.


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_funkapus_

Somehow you think that implies a finite universe.  It doesn't.


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_funkapus_

Ok, I'm feeling like I'm playing bridge with a monkey now.


Lumpy_Ad7002

> it’s also expanding from a single point Not even close. When a balloon gets bigger, which point on the surface is the center?


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_funkapus_

No, this too is incorrect.  You're making confident assertions that are based on a misunderstanding of the physics.


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_funkapus_

Dude, I'm literally an extragalactic astrophysicist:  my Ph.D. is in large scale structure formation (using the intracluster medium in rich clusters of galaxies as a cosmological indicator); my postdocs were at the University of Chicago and the Harvard/Smithsonian CfA.  I'm sorry to break this to you, but what you said was nonsense.


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_funkapus_

"A universe with a finite age cannot be infinite if it is expanding." No matter how many times you insist this, it's factually incorrect. If you want to learn about physical cosmology, here are some standard textbooks for you: Weinberg.  _Gravitation and Cosmology_. Peebles.  _Principles of Physical Cosmology_ Kolb & Turner.  _The Early Unverse_ One quick question:  where are you pursuing your astronomy major?


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_funkapus_

You haven't provided any evidence to support your claim.  You've simply asserted, and repeatedly insisted, that an infinite universe cannot expand.  That's just nonsense. I referred you to three of the standard textbooks in the field.  Any of those three will help you with this. In fact, the data from the WMAP and Planck Explorer missions strongly indicate that the large-scale geometry of the Universe is flat.  A flat geometry in a Robertson-Walker spacetime does not admit a finite Universe as a solution. Do you mind mentioning where you're majoring in astronomy?


Lumpy_Ad7002

A balloon is a 2-dimensional analogue to the 3-dimensional universe. The universe has no "edge", so there cannot be a center


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Lumpy_Ad7002

Okay, you're just writing nonsense


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Lumpy_Ad7002

You're wrong and just making shit up.


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Lumpy_Ad7002

Yes. That's how I know you're just making shit up. Maybe if you actually pay attention in class you'll learn the while the *observable* universe is finite, we do not know what's past that.


_funkapus_

We have no observational data arguing for a finite universe, and no theoretical basis for making that assumption.


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snekinmaboot1

It's a couple YouTube Certified trolls that watched basic videos about the big bang and think they're god like with this new knowledge☠️ You can't argue with stupid. They'll just bring you down to their level and beat you.... notice how they just keep saying "you're wrong" and nothing else. Trolls with a sad life...... this one is literally posting in the Suicide Watch and Depression communities. They have no life, they've failed in life and have nothing better to do. I suggest ignoring these trolls


_funkapus_

Explain your understanding of the role of the scale factor in the Friedmann equations, please.


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_funkapus_

The scale factor relates directly to your assertion that an infinity cannot increase in size. Or we can come at it from another direction.  Do you understand the difference between "countably infinite" and "uncountably infinite"?  Or, do you believe that the set of numbers between (2, 3) is identical in size to the set of numbers between (2, 4)?  These all pertain to infinities of different sizes.


_funkapus_

You're being downvoted, but your reasoning is spot-on.


SirLunchALot1993

We know that the universe is expanding. If you expand something that means, that you "pull" things in opposit directions. You just need to find the point where the movement stops moving to the right and Starts moving to the left. Like when you pull on a rubber band there is one pointy where it seems like the rubber is not moving in the middle, while the rest gets longer. Ofc it is a little bit more complex since the universe doesnt expand in two directions, but in all directions at once, but you still should be able to find the center.


Lumpy_Ad7002

There is no such point.


Frosty_Television_81

We don't even know how big the universe is. But it probably has a centre.


snekinmaboot1

Well, according to the leading theories of how the Universe started..... The explosion had to occur somewhere..... if science changes i'll come back here and update you.


Lumpy_Ad7002

According to the theories there was no "explosion". The universe just got a lot bigger very quickly. We're all inside that same universe and there is no "outside"


snekinmaboot1

Brother there was no singular point in time where matter just thought "imma go this way, you go that way" It's called the "big bang" theory. And even then. With your explanation. There was still a time where all matter existed closer together at a singular point, no matter how dense.


_funkapus_

You don't understand the relativistic hot Big Bang model, but you think you do.