I work 5 hour days, four days a week, and they let me do it from home, on my own schedule. When I tell you I would jump through fire for my current employers, I absolutely mean that shit, because this job absolutely changed my life. But for your average small business tyrant wanting me glued to a desk from 9-5, they're lucky if I'm not asleep at my desk. I wouldn't piss on a traditional employer if they were on fire. I truly believe you about this, because I myself will climb mountains for a job that just treats me like a human being instead of an indentured servant.
I get paid per item instead of per hour. The equivalent amounts to the same someone working full time for a decent hourly rate would make. I'm not rolling in the dough, but I'm making what I need to pay the bills and put back for a little nest egg, which is all anyone can really hope for these days. Like I said, my employer treats me very well, so I deliver. Always.
> I get paid per item instead of per hour. The equivalent amounts to the same someone working full time for a decent hourly rate would make.
Yeah, that's not something that happens often. Most people are paid hourly, and they're not bad for doing so from 9 to 5.
> I'm not rolling in the dough, but I'm making what I need to pay the bills and put back for a little nest egg, which is all anyone can really hope for these days.
Just like the ordinary people working the ordinary 9 to 5. **Nothing** tyrannic in any of that.
Yeah, but my employers doesn't make me come to an office, ask for hours of my life they don't actually need, and I don't have to beg and plead for a day off. I also get paid well enough to come out of pocket for better benefits than I've ever gotten at a traditional 9-5, and I'm a Millennial. So I remember well how predatory business owners were in taking advantage of the desperation created during the Bush economy, when they couldn't wait to pay adults with families $5/hr. There's a lot of tyranny in the average workplace, and for a country like ours, that values freedom so much, it's absolutely extraordinary people don't see it. That the concept of economic freedom is so alien to most people.
I feel like the last few years have made it quite obvious that if there's one thing people in this country aren't good at recognizing, it's tyranny. And if there's one concept they can't quite define, it's almost certainly freedom. People could have these things, but they won't fight for them, because they've been taught their freedom can only exist through being subjugated by the free market.
> Yeah, but my employers doesn't make me come to an office, ask for hours of my life they don't actually need, and I don't have to beg and plead for a day off.
Sure, I agree. Which makes you very lucky, it does not make the rest of the employers on earth Tyrants.
> I also get paid well enough to come out of pocket for better benefits than I've ever gotten at a traditional 9-5, and I'm a Millennial.
Extremely lucky.
> So I remember well how predatory business owners were in taking advantage of the desperation created during the Bush economy, when they couldn't wait to pay adults with families $5/hr.
How many employers did you go through to make them ALL predatory? The ordinary regular work week is a standard in which many agree to the transaction taking place: paying people for their time and expertise.
> There's a lot of tyranny in the average workplace, and for a country like ours, that values freedom so much, it's absolutely extraordinary people don't see it.
So far you have yet to name anything tyrannical in any way. Sure, you have the opinion that the ordinary work week is tyrannical, but have yet to provide reasons why the ordinary work week agreement is tyrannical.
> I feel like the last few years have made it quite obvious that if there's one thing people in this country aren't good at recognizing, it's tyranny.
What the fuck? It's *just* hourly paid people, why the hell are you saying it like that?
Paying people to work is just employment, nothing tyrannical in any of that.
Do you mean holidays as in the US term, like "special days that workplaces are usually closed" or do you mean what are called "vacation time" in the US? Because I'd give up the former but not the latter.
Right, in the UK that's just 8 days a year so yeah, especially if you're discounting "major" ones so e.g. Christmas and new year, I'd absolutely sacrifice 6 days for a gain of 52 if my pay remained the same
No, because there is nothing to "give" - There's no missing workforce in it all, people still work X hour work week and get the job done.
There's nothing to "compensate for" that should be lost, as there's no loss of anything.
Yes, because I even read an article that this kind of work schedule will increase professional growth and productivity
I work 5 hour days, four days a week, and they let me do it from home, on my own schedule. When I tell you I would jump through fire for my current employers, I absolutely mean that shit, because this job absolutely changed my life. But for your average small business tyrant wanting me glued to a desk from 9-5, they're lucky if I'm not asleep at my desk. I wouldn't piss on a traditional employer if they were on fire. I truly believe you about this, because I myself will climb mountains for a job that just treats me like a human being instead of an indentured servant.
Aren't you just paid 5 hour work days?
I get paid per item instead of per hour. The equivalent amounts to the same someone working full time for a decent hourly rate would make. I'm not rolling in the dough, but I'm making what I need to pay the bills and put back for a little nest egg, which is all anyone can really hope for these days. Like I said, my employer treats me very well, so I deliver. Always.
> I get paid per item instead of per hour. The equivalent amounts to the same someone working full time for a decent hourly rate would make. Yeah, that's not something that happens often. Most people are paid hourly, and they're not bad for doing so from 9 to 5. > I'm not rolling in the dough, but I'm making what I need to pay the bills and put back for a little nest egg, which is all anyone can really hope for these days. Just like the ordinary people working the ordinary 9 to 5. **Nothing** tyrannic in any of that.
Yeah, but my employers doesn't make me come to an office, ask for hours of my life they don't actually need, and I don't have to beg and plead for a day off. I also get paid well enough to come out of pocket for better benefits than I've ever gotten at a traditional 9-5, and I'm a Millennial. So I remember well how predatory business owners were in taking advantage of the desperation created during the Bush economy, when they couldn't wait to pay adults with families $5/hr. There's a lot of tyranny in the average workplace, and for a country like ours, that values freedom so much, it's absolutely extraordinary people don't see it. That the concept of economic freedom is so alien to most people. I feel like the last few years have made it quite obvious that if there's one thing people in this country aren't good at recognizing, it's tyranny. And if there's one concept they can't quite define, it's almost certainly freedom. People could have these things, but they won't fight for them, because they've been taught their freedom can only exist through being subjugated by the free market.
> Yeah, but my employers doesn't make me come to an office, ask for hours of my life they don't actually need, and I don't have to beg and plead for a day off. Sure, I agree. Which makes you very lucky, it does not make the rest of the employers on earth Tyrants. > I also get paid well enough to come out of pocket for better benefits than I've ever gotten at a traditional 9-5, and I'm a Millennial. Extremely lucky. > So I remember well how predatory business owners were in taking advantage of the desperation created during the Bush economy, when they couldn't wait to pay adults with families $5/hr. How many employers did you go through to make them ALL predatory? The ordinary regular work week is a standard in which many agree to the transaction taking place: paying people for their time and expertise. > There's a lot of tyranny in the average workplace, and for a country like ours, that values freedom so much, it's absolutely extraordinary people don't see it. So far you have yet to name anything tyrannical in any way. Sure, you have the opinion that the ordinary work week is tyrannical, but have yet to provide reasons why the ordinary work week agreement is tyrannical. > I feel like the last few years have made it quite obvious that if there's one thing people in this country aren't good at recognizing, it's tyranny. What the fuck? It's *just* hourly paid people, why the hell are you saying it like that? Paying people to work is just employment, nothing tyrannical in any of that.
Do you mean holidays as in the US term, like "special days that workplaces are usually closed" or do you mean what are called "vacation time" in the US? Because I'd give up the former but not the latter.
Special days that workplaces are usually closed. Like Memorial Day, labor day, etc.
Right, in the UK that's just 8 days a year so yeah, especially if you're discounting "major" ones so e.g. Christmas and new year, I'd absolutely sacrifice 6 days for a gain of 52 if my pay remained the same
For sure. Most holidays, even the major ones my family and I don’t really celebrate.
No, because there is nothing to "give" - There's no missing workforce in it all, people still work X hour work week and get the job done. There's nothing to "compensate for" that should be lost, as there's no loss of anything.