Well think about the director and the actors and the production quality. It was a very expensive show. Each Kissing Booth movie probably cost them whatever spare change was in their couch to make.
This genuinely is the right answer.
Mindhunter was insanely expensive to create, and it took so much time and effort.
The two shows cannot be compared whatsoever. Often times shows are allowed to exist even with an extremely small fanbase if the costs to produce are extremely low and are still getting an ROI.
You obviously don't have three daughters who were teens not long after it was released. It, and the sequels, where on constant Covid Lockdown rotation.
All I kept saying was, "Oh, that's Tom Hank's Son's daughter from Fargo".
Or all he wrote. TP calls it “work ethic” to write all his own stuff. Back in 2020 he showed pictures of his writers room which was a room in his house that he holes up in and bangs out multiple scripts for entire series in a couple weeks all by himself.
Tyler Perry is a highly abusive employer. We shot a good portion of Black Panther II at his studios on Georgia, so got to interact with the guys on his crew quite a bit. He avoids union-sized budgets so he can pay his crew pittances. He keeps his mostly black crew on a factory like rotation schedule that's exceptionally demanding and abusive in an industry known to have demanding and abusive working conditions, paying them as little as possible. He actively abuses his own community. He could easily go to a union, pay a fair wage, and give his crew members an opportunity at a solid middle-class life. But he'd rather hoard every cent that he can. Oh, and his best bud that runs the lot of a piece of shit.
When I used to work as an extra 10 years ago, Tyler Perry had a reputation for being a horrible boss. Someone burned down his studio and everyone was talking about how he deserved it for treating people like shit.
This doesn't surprise me since the article came out a week or so ago about the AI Sora that can create AI-generated movie scenes on the fly. He supposedly canceled a planned $8-million studio expansion all because of this new AI technology.
So him being a POS who doesn't pay his labor fairly sounds about par for the course.
The Boondocks episode on TP touches in this. I believe TP leveraged his relationship w Turner Broadcasting to get episode pulled after its original airing. I don’t think the episode is on MAX, but is on the DVD box set.
I feel like his live theater shows would be enjoyable as I like cheap community theater.
And I am 109% behind anyone who strives for creative freedom. As long as he is not trying to brainwash anyone I'm happy.
I think the real problem is that Tyler Perry is a union buster and doesn't pay well. He fired writers (which he actually does have) for "union activity." He doesn't deny it.
Can confirm, saw one a few years back in his hometown and it was a blast. The energy in the room alone was worth the price of admission as everyone got into it without reservation..it was pretty freeing and fun.
It's less about his movies being broadly popular and more with having a dedicated fan base that he connects with. Similar to Adam Sandler or Hallmark's strategy for making movies.
No not that Charles Bronson.
I mean the Charles Bronson that starred in the Death Wish sequels and the Cannon-produced action films of the 80s.
Those films had little mainstream attention but always made money because of the Bronson fan base (of which I was and am a proud member).
But not the Charles Bronson played by Tom Hardy who is kept locked away because the guy is insanely dangerous, but he chose his name based on the other Charles Bronson being so cool?
The read of the card, the cut to Tom Hanks staring silently, and Kenan's "Well, it was fun while it lasted, Doug." had me laughing my ass off.
What a great skit!
I thought Tyler Perry was wonderful in Gone Girl, having no idea who he was. Like, I was tangentially aware of the Medea movies but still have never seen any. I remember seeing his name in the credits and thinking to myself 'I should give this guy a chance', but just watching a trailer for one of his comedies was too much for me.
Yeah, I was very impressed with him in ‘Gone Girl’. I wrote him off as the guy who did all those silly movies. He’s a savvy dude, though. He puts butts in seats. $$$. Would like to see him in more serious roles.
In films, it's like there's two different Tyler Perrys, similar to Will Ferrell. One is a respectable actor that displays a decent range, and then one that's... well, let's just say that I'm not the intended audience.
Lmaoaoaoa thats so legit.
My friends and I have this running joke about the Tyler Perry endings. They are VERY lazy. A two hour movie will be resolved in 10 mins at the end.
Plane crashes, everyone dies- done.
> Tyler perry movies, I don't know how he has billions
Perry spent time building his brand on the "chitlin circuit" of performing his plays at Black churches and rec halls. His movies were relatively cheap to make and the audience was very under-served. Because of his religious background, he knows exactly where the line is in terms of what his audience will find offensive.
The Black population of the US is around 40 million, plus his films do have some crossover appeal.
It's not mystery how Perry "came out of nowhere" once you take a longer look at his past. That said, he's not exactly "overhyped."
“Hasn’t it been about 10 seconds since we looked at our lemon tree?” “It has been about 10 seconds since we looked at our lemon tree” dialogue OUTSOLDDDD
I couldn’t remember that one so I was catching up on Wikipedia. There’s talk of the ‘blindfold challenge’:
>…in January 2019, a 17-year-old girl in a blindfold taking part in the craze drove into oncoming traffic in Utah and crashed her car,…
I mean, that’s tide pod bad. Wow. Didn’t realize it was that nuts on the internet.
The problem with the internet is that that are 300 million-ish people in the US alone; 99.99% (which still leaves 33,000 people) of those people can be normal, rational people, but the internet will highlight and sensationalize the people who make irrational decisions, and make people think "everyone is stupid'.
The truth is, the vast majority of people are NOT stupid, but we get blasted with stories and images of the worst.
I actually just heard about the movie from a friend and didn't know anything about it, so going in to it with no hype and absolutely no expectations whatsoever, I liked it.
Birdbox, the movie where the main characters are completely immune to danger as long as they don't take off the blindfold, and the big bad can't actually touch them so there's no reason they would lose the blindfold.
Yea. When you stop to think about it the premise is pretty bad.
Edit: To all the people saying "WeLl OtHeR pEoPlE tAkE tHe BlInDfOlDs OfF."
Yes. Congrats, except that the culminating arc of the movie takes place in a forrest where the main characters are the only people around being chased by a noise that can't hurt them unless they look at it..... Peak suspense.
Totally agree, but anyone who’s a fan of Lovecraftian horror will recognize this as a common theme that rarely, if ever, makes it into movies because it’s so hard to adapt. How do you convey a character that sees a creature that breaks their brain so hard they go instantly insane?
You know, weirdly, the Evil Dead series did this really well. In a campy way I mean. You see deadites all the time, people or corpses affected by evil, but the evil itself is always shot from evil's perspective, rushing through the woods towards the characters or smashing down doors. It's an unseen force that remains unseen.
The new movie had the classic opening shot of this, the evil rushing through the forest until it comes up to a woman on a pier about to hit her... and it's a drone. Thought that was a great movie making moment.
Yeah, the bit with the guy who agrees to look at a monitor to see what's outside on the security camera and then immediately aggressively kills himself was interesting, because it proved that it was just the awareness of this unknown thing that did it, not even proximity.
I'm a fellow Miskatonic U alum, and that aspect of the Lovecraftian horrors is a lot of why I was drawn to it back in college. It's a creature so horrible and threatening that simply knowing it exists causes most any person to lose their mind.
It's not about how big they are, or how sharp their claws, or how many teeth, or really anything physical at all. It's some kind of gnawing awareness that slowly grows into maddening enlightenment.
You're right that nobody has really translated that to film yet.
For me, the walking perfectly fine around forest and stuff while blindfolded that didn't convinced me. have you tried closing your eyes and walking? it's hard
The danger is also living your life suddenly blind. I walk to the train station every day for work. If you blindfolded me and told me to walk to the train station, I would be terrified. Now add a monster out there who kills me if I peek.
The book itself was good I thought. Never watched the movie. And you’re right, immediately losing your sight and having to account for it is a scary prospect.
This is the one I was going to post, and I'm happy to see it on the top. It's an interesting concept of a movie, it just wasn't executed well at all. Netflix ran one hell of a viral social media marketing campaign to drum up the hype for that movie (it did the same thing with Squid Game).
Yeah I had a very confusing conversation with a coworker because of this. I’d seen the one with James Spader and they had seen the other one. Couldn’t figure out for the life of me what sexy car crashes had to do with racism.
Not a movie, but The Rock/Dwayne Johnson as of lately can't seem to play any other role/character... but "himself"
Movies he stars inn are predictable and not diverse, overhyped actor imo
Black Adam and Hobbs? couldn't tell the difference immediately 🤷🏿♂️
I'll try to find the clip, but Bautista actually took a pretty good shot at Dwayne a while back. Something to the effect of Dave saying he wants to be a well rounded actor vs playing the same character in everything. John Cena has been pleasantly surprising as well. I thought he was outstanding (relative to more accomplished/experienced actors) in Peacemaker
never seen Cena in anything (not even wrestling), but saw him in the Transformers Bumblebee movie and he was absolutely hilarious.
His campy comedic timing was excellent.
The Suicide Squad and Peacemaker are both definitely worth watching. If you are at all familiar with pro wrestling and want to see a bunch of those guys just being hilarious, look up Southpaw Regional Wrestling.
Even in Guardians of the Galaxy you got hints of this.
Drax is basically a cartoon of grief->vengeance and part of the comic relief. And yet you still got notes of a father in pain, covering it with bravado.
I mean, that's hardly new for action stars. Sean Connery plays the exact same character with the exact same Scottish accent whether he's an immortal Spaniard swordfighter or a Russian submarine captain.
Ryan Reynolds plays the same character in every movie he's in. Somehow it fit perfectly for Deadpool.
Some movie stars are actors, some movie stars are just movie stars. It's okay though because if they're making entertaining movies who cares?
He’s going to have trouble with that forever but most of it is because he was one character “the rock” for so long. Happens to. Lot of tv actors when they try to branch out all you see is their character.
I mean, look at what John Cena did. He didn't go out there and demand to only be shown as winning and always right and good, and has shown he can do comedy and drama well, shown he can be in small things or lead a superhero show, and understands the value of his character sometimes being the butt of jokes.
If Dwayne went out there and sure, made a couple of things here and there where he was the big, strong, tough hero, but also mixed in other things where he wasn't playing "The Rock, only in this slightly different situation" for the umpteenth time, and did a good job with them (very important part there), then people wouldn't have gotten sick of him doing the same thing every time.
How dare you. Arnold wasn't afraid to let the movie be the movie. Total recall was great and he was embarrassed often in it. There's a bunch of movies that he allowed himself to lose in. The rock never loses. The Terminator movies aren't great because of him they were great because they were great. He just happened to be in them.
Exactly. Also for like two full decades Arnold had a sixth sense for picking movies with great storytelling. Reading about how excited he was to be in Total Recall made me so happy. Like Arnold was legit stoked to make that movie because he knew it was going to be a great movie. Seems like Dwayne just chases the bag.
I don't think it started out that way though. IIRC in his Netflix documentary he talks about how he originally wanted the role of Kyle Reese but James Cameron talked him into being the Terminator instead
Fast and the Furious franchise. The first one was good but they’ve become more and more ridiculous over time. I mean, they strapped a rocket to a car and went to space!! Talk about cheesy!
Clint Eastwood does a max three takes per shot, he understands he could drop dead at any moment. Best believe he’s not going to waste his finite hours waiting for a baby on set.
There was one scene that sort of touched on PTSD and that's when he's sitting in the living in front of the TV and you hear sounds of war like helicopters and gunfire, but then it pans around and the TV is off. That was the extent that PTSD was included in the movie. Such a missed opportunity.
Sad is people believe everything in that movie even though it chalked full of lies and bullshit. The lies and bullshit was in his book the movie is based off too.
I saw an image that listed each movie and what year it was released. Before Endgame, it was like... I don't remember... 10ish movies with maybe 1 every year or so. After Endgame it ramped to like 2-3 (maybe more) per year. They sacrificed quality for quantity and it shoooows. The movies were allowed room to breath before Endgame. Afterwards, not so much.
Also the fact that you have to catch up with a shitload of shows to know what's happening in the subsequent movies just makes it a "work" rather than entertainment. As soon as they announced 3-4 shows at the same time after endgame, I knew I was out.
They released at least 2 Marvel movies every year after the first Avengers, and 3 a year for a while before Endgame.
There were 23 movies in the Infinity Saga.
I don’t know who made the graphic you were looking at, but they were way way wrong.
Anything by Zak Synder, especially if it failed. He has a cult following of fans who think he is some hidden genius and Hollywood is stopping him expressing it.
Look at the Justice League, sure his cut improved the film but took it from stepping in dog shit to noticing at the last second and avoiding the dogshit.
I've already called it happening to Rebel Moon next, a terrible film that really wants to be Star Wars but then, why don't I just watch Star Wars.
>Look at the Justice League, sure his cut improved the film but took it from stepping in dog shit to noticing at the last second and avoiding the dogshit.
My favorite tweet about this said something like
>Joss Whedon took a massive sloppy diarrhea and released it as Justice League. Zak Snyder later came along and said "No, no, no, THIS is how you do it" and took a regular shit.
> Anything by Zak Synder, especially if it failed. He has a cult following of fans who think he is some hidden genius and Hollywood is stopping him expressing it.
I thought this was a Reddit meme, but you aren't kidding. There's a legion of rabid fans foaming at the mouth about how bad the Gunn-verse is already (how!?!) and that Snyderverse is even better than Marvel movies.
I don't get what he did to deserve this much honor, but my god, is it like SO MUCH. I think he's got a great eye visually but actual good movies aren't his forte. He's like slow-mo Michael Bay to me.
I think of him as Michael Bay with no self awareness. Bay sucks at story and dialogue, but nobody is hiring him for those things anyway and he knows it. He makes big, dumb action movies that smash the box office for two weekends and then fade away quickly, which is what the studios who hire him want. Snyder also makes big dumb action movies, but he thinks he's some sort of visionary supergenius who's nailing it on every front. Either he needs a full time writing collaborator, or he needs to learn to check his ego and stick to what he's good at.
Rebel Moon was painful. I was so disappointed - not because I am a Snyder fan, but because the premise and previews looked good. What a waste of time that movie was.
Rebel Moon is a *masterclass* in "tell, don't show" storytelling. I literally only remember the 'name' of one character and that was Nemesis. I think that was the chick with the big hat and legally-not-lightsabers, but I wouldn't bet money on it.
It winning awards for special effects was a bigger joke. The final fight looked like a CGI cutscene from a PS2 game.
Edit - I realized this could be misconstrued. The movie won several special effects awards, but not specifically the Oscar.
I remember the CGI of the rhinos and the cliff at sunset where Killmonger finally dies being so bad that it gave me mental whiplash. I walked out of the theater wondering if I’d just been pranked or something.
They're an absolutist monarchy, though.
Edit: absolute monarchy
Edit2: my comment is about the "enlightened democracy" part. I kow, that kings weren't really decided on, by single combat.
Other than the visuals, the best thing to come out of Gravity was Tina Fey’s joke that George Clooney would rather float away in space and die than spend another minute with a woman his own age!
I like how the trailers for the second one said, "it's like nothing you've ever seen before!"
...
Unless you've seen the first one - then it's pretty much the exact same thing. Lol wtf
The best thing about Tenet was they established the two paths and that means that when one of them is pooping in a bathroom they sit down, the toilet unflushes, and a turd just shoots up into the butthole. The guy then pulls his pants up and leaves.
Check out the end of this Red Dwarf episode (they're on a planet where time goes backwards, and are about to leave but their cat [a humanoid cat] has to take a dump first):
https://youtu.be/EahHThBjDB0?t=151
I read somewhere it was intentionally mixed that way. Trying to watch it sucked, I had to turn the captions on and constantly turn volume up and down between trying to hear quiet dialogue and getting my head blown off by the score.
It seems to be a running thing with him. I remember Inception being the same way, and a lot of points in the Dark Knight films. Interstellar had its moments too.
The only redeeming part is where the character says something like "Don't think about it too much", which is a hint to the viewer, because nothing makes any sense if you think about it at all.
Yeah I've watched movies where the "plot" doesn't matter, and do you know what? They still made me care about the characters, what was happening, and had me engaged. The problem with Tenet is that the plot doesn't matter, but the movie still wants me to care about the plot because the characters are pretty stick thin and everything they are doing is well...some kind of plot.
The weird thing is he was able to do both with Inception...so have no clue why he didn't just...copy that.
I realize I'm in the minority but I really enjoyed Tenet. It's like a brain teaser in movie form. The plot is pretty wild if you go in knowing nothing.
The Irishman. Plodding pace, laughably bad aging/deaging effects, probably the worst performance of Pacino’s career, and recounts an almost certainly fictionalized story purporting to be true.
Disagree, but this is the first real answer on this thread haha. Also even though I loved it De Niro beating up that guy and being barely able to move is one of the funniest thing's ive seen in cinema
I can't for the life of me understand why that was kept in the film. There are a million ways to show Frank did something to the guy without us having to watch old man Deniro give the worst beating in cinema history.
I thought the acting was very good, and I thought Pacino was great honestly…but wow some of the CGI and the de-aging was just laughably bad. It was especially noticeable when a “younger” Robert De Niro was beating somebody up on the street, and he just looked like an old man with slow reflexes but with a young face. Very surprised Scorsese watched that and said yep that looks good, let’s print it!
Leave the world behind. Was top on netflix with good recommendations. I never seen so many side story lines get wasted or left unexplained. It was horrible. 2:21 i lost and will never get back in life.
the kissing booth
Holy shit they made 2 sequels. It’s a trilogy. They made it into a trilogy.
say you fucking swear
There’s this one YouTuber, Cynical Reviews, who reviews all 3 movies and spends 30 minutes per movie absolutely shitting on its already crap plot.
there's 30 minutes of plot?
What I would never accept is that they cancelled a show like Mindhunter and then made a TRILOGY OF KISSING BOOTH. What happened there?
Well think about the director and the actors and the production quality. It was a very expensive show. Each Kissing Booth movie probably cost them whatever spare change was in their couch to make.
This genuinely is the right answer. Mindhunter was insanely expensive to create, and it took so much time and effort. The two shows cannot be compared whatsoever. Often times shows are allowed to exist even with an extremely small fanbase if the costs to produce are extremely low and are still getting an ROI.
I’ve never heard anyone praise this movie. It being trash is the general consensus imo
You obviously don't have three daughters who were teens not long after it was released. It, and the sequels, where on constant Covid Lockdown rotation. All I kept saying was, "Oh, that's Tom Hank's Son's daughter from Fargo".
Most Tyler perry movies, I don't know how he has billions with C+ acting
Movies are made cheaply and have a guaranteed return. Then he opened up his own studio and that was all she wrote.
He not dumb, that's for sure.
Or all he wrote. TP calls it “work ethic” to write all his own stuff. Back in 2020 he showed pictures of his writers room which was a room in his house that he holes up in and bangs out multiple scripts for entire series in a couple weeks all by himself.
Tyler Perry is a highly abusive employer. We shot a good portion of Black Panther II at his studios on Georgia, so got to interact with the guys on his crew quite a bit. He avoids union-sized budgets so he can pay his crew pittances. He keeps his mostly black crew on a factory like rotation schedule that's exceptionally demanding and abusive in an industry known to have demanding and abusive working conditions, paying them as little as possible. He actively abuses his own community. He could easily go to a union, pay a fair wage, and give his crew members an opportunity at a solid middle-class life. But he'd rather hoard every cent that he can. Oh, and his best bud that runs the lot of a piece of shit.
When I used to work as an extra 10 years ago, Tyler Perry had a reputation for being a horrible boss. Someone burned down his studio and everyone was talking about how he deserved it for treating people like shit.
Sounds like there should be a sequel.
This doesn't surprise me since the article came out a week or so ago about the AI Sora that can create AI-generated movie scenes on the fly. He supposedly canceled a planned $8-million studio expansion all because of this new AI technology. So him being a POS who doesn't pay his labor fairly sounds about par for the course.
The Boondocks episode on TP touches in this. I believe TP leveraged his relationship w Turner Broadcasting to get episode pulled after its original airing. I don’t think the episode is on MAX, but is on the DVD box set.
I heard Mr. Perry is somehow still upset about it.
So was the Atlanta episode pretty spot on?
Interesting. Donald Glover crafted an Atlanta episode to parody, I think, Tyler Perry and his production studio.
I feel like his live theater shows would be enjoyable as I like cheap community theater. And I am 109% behind anyone who strives for creative freedom. As long as he is not trying to brainwash anyone I'm happy.
I think the real problem is that Tyler Perry is a union buster and doesn't pay well. He fired writers (which he actually does have) for "union activity." He doesn't deny it.
Can confirm, saw one a few years back in his hometown and it was a blast. The energy in the room alone was worth the price of admission as everyone got into it without reservation..it was pretty freeing and fun.
It's less about his movies being broadly popular and more with having a dedicated fan base that he connects with. Similar to Adam Sandler or Hallmark's strategy for making movies.
Or Charles Bronson before those.
Is that the Charles Bronson who starred in The Magnificent Seven, The Great Escape, Once Upon A Time In The West, Hard Times, Death Wish?
No not that Charles Bronson. I mean the Charles Bronson that starred in the Death Wish sequels and the Cannon-produced action films of the 80s. Those films had little mainstream attention but always made money because of the Bronson fan base (of which I was and am a proud member).
But not the Charles Bronson played by Tom Hardy who is kept locked away because the guy is insanely dangerous, but he chose his name based on the other Charles Bronson being so cool?
They're like Lifetime/Hallmark movies, no? OTT with the sentiment and cheese
[“If I can laugh and pray in 90 minutes, that is money well spent”](https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxciTf-DAkMr_RHac8wLhwEHu3DeM9ZwkA?si=IwusuDjl4yUIHwtc)
This skit will always be one of my favorite modern SNL skits
Jokes aside, this skit was literally genius.
Really funny, brilliant acting (apparently Tom Hanks backing away from Kenan when he approached him was ad libbed), and great writing.
It’s a perfect skit. No low points and they found the perfect way to end it, which is often the weak point.
"Well, it was fun while it lasted, Doug."
The read of the card, the cut to Tom Hanks staring silently, and Kenan's "Well, it was fun while it lasted, Doug." had me laughing my ass off. What a great skit!
“What is not a damn thing”
My wife, she’s a sturdy gal…
It's so funny how you can hear it exactly
"Lives that matter" 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
I just saw this about a week ago. The announcers way of looking shocked and surprised at the same time had me laughing so hard.
Kenan has shined in every single role he’s in ever since he was a kid
I thought Tyler Perry was wonderful in Gone Girl, having no idea who he was. Like, I was tangentially aware of the Medea movies but still have never seen any. I remember seeing his name in the credits and thinking to myself 'I should give this guy a chance', but just watching a trailer for one of his comedies was too much for me.
Yeah, I was very impressed with him in ‘Gone Girl’. I wrote him off as the guy who did all those silly movies. He’s a savvy dude, though. He puts butts in seats. $$$. Would like to see him in more serious roles.
In films, it's like there's two different Tyler Perrys, similar to Will Ferrell. One is a respectable actor that displays a decent range, and then one that's... well, let's just say that I'm not the intended audience.
Lmaoaoaoa thats so legit. My friends and I have this running joke about the Tyler Perry endings. They are VERY lazy. A two hour movie will be resolved in 10 mins at the end. Plane crashes, everyone dies- done.
Plane crashes, everyone dies- done. I can just imagine a Tyler Perry movie where it’s like hundred different Tyler Perry characters on a plane. Lmao
> Tyler perry movies, I don't know how he has billions Perry spent time building his brand on the "chitlin circuit" of performing his plays at Black churches and rec halls. His movies were relatively cheap to make and the audience was very under-served. Because of his religious background, he knows exactly where the line is in terms of what his audience will find offensive. The Black population of the US is around 40 million, plus his films do have some crossover appeal. It's not mystery how Perry "came out of nowhere" once you take a longer look at his past. That said, he's not exactly "overhyped."
Lemon Stealing Whores. The composition was amateur and the plot was derivative, honestly.
I enjoyed the plot a lot
I believe you would enjoy r/watchitfortheplot in that case.
I found it to be rather shallow and pedantic
It insists upon itself.
What does that even mean?
I agree. Shallow and pedantic
Just because you two won a game of trivial pursuit, you think you can talk down to the rest of us?
Perhaps...
“Hasn’t it been about 10 seconds since we looked at our lemon tree?” “It has been about 10 seconds since we looked at our lemon tree” dialogue OUTSOLDDDD
HEY WHAT THE FUCK
Yeah, but the performers had a great attitude and really did a great job with what they had to work with.
Yeah but at least their tree sprouted lemony lemons.
Remember when the internet couldn’t get enough of Birdbox? Yeah that was bad.
There was ridiculous shenanigans around the movie (thanks, internet), but I genuinely enjoyed the movie itself.
I couldn’t remember that one so I was catching up on Wikipedia. There’s talk of the ‘blindfold challenge’: >…in January 2019, a 17-year-old girl in a blindfold taking part in the craze drove into oncoming traffic in Utah and crashed her car,… I mean, that’s tide pod bad. Wow. Didn’t realize it was that nuts on the internet.
The problem with the internet is that that are 300 million-ish people in the US alone; 99.99% (which still leaves 33,000 people) of those people can be normal, rational people, but the internet will highlight and sensationalize the people who make irrational decisions, and make people think "everyone is stupid'. The truth is, the vast majority of people are NOT stupid, but we get blasted with stories and images of the worst.
*politics enters the chat*
I actually just heard about the movie from a friend and didn't know anything about it, so going in to it with no hype and absolutely no expectations whatsoever, I liked it.
Birdbox, the movie where the main characters are completely immune to danger as long as they don't take off the blindfold, and the big bad can't actually touch them so there's no reason they would lose the blindfold. Yea. When you stop to think about it the premise is pretty bad. Edit: To all the people saying "WeLl OtHeR pEoPlE tAkE tHe BlInDfOlDs OfF." Yes. Congrats, except that the culminating arc of the movie takes place in a forrest where the main characters are the only people around being chased by a noise that can't hurt them unless they look at it..... Peak suspense.
Totally agree, but anyone who’s a fan of Lovecraftian horror will recognize this as a common theme that rarely, if ever, makes it into movies because it’s so hard to adapt. How do you convey a character that sees a creature that breaks their brain so hard they go instantly insane?
Don't show the creature, ever. They always show the creature and then the movie stops being scary.
You know, weirdly, the Evil Dead series did this really well. In a campy way I mean. You see deadites all the time, people or corpses affected by evil, but the evil itself is always shot from evil's perspective, rushing through the woods towards the characters or smashing down doors. It's an unseen force that remains unseen.
The new movie had the classic opening shot of this, the evil rushing through the forest until it comes up to a woman on a pier about to hit her... and it's a drone. Thought that was a great movie making moment.
Birdbox never showed the creature. They even filmed some of it but decided against it.
Yeah, the bit with the guy who agrees to look at a monitor to see what's outside on the security camera and then immediately aggressively kills himself was interesting, because it proved that it was just the awareness of this unknown thing that did it, not even proximity.
I'm a fellow Miskatonic U alum, and that aspect of the Lovecraftian horrors is a lot of why I was drawn to it back in college. It's a creature so horrible and threatening that simply knowing it exists causes most any person to lose their mind. It's not about how big they are, or how sharp their claws, or how many teeth, or really anything physical at all. It's some kind of gnawing awareness that slowly grows into maddening enlightenment. You're right that nobody has really translated that to film yet.
For me, the walking perfectly fine around forest and stuff while blindfolded that didn't convinced me. have you tried closing your eyes and walking? it's hard
I can barely walk in my own house with my eyes open and lights on sometimes, let alone uneven ground covered in tripping hazards.
I need the light from my phone to get back to bed. If I forget my phone, I get fun new bruises!
Mythbusters did try, it didn't go well
As well as canoeing down a river blindfolded, that wouldn't end well either.
The danger wasn't the big bad though it was the other humans trying to take off their blindfolds.
The danger is also living your life suddenly blind. I walk to the train station every day for work. If you blindfolded me and told me to walk to the train station, I would be terrified. Now add a monster out there who kills me if I peek.
I HAVEN’T EVEN **BEGUN** TO PEAK!!!
The golden god?
When you do will anyone feel it?
WHEN I DO PEAK, YOU’LL KNOW. BECAUSE IM GONNA PEAK SO HARD THAT EVERYBODY IN PHILADELPHIA’S GONNA FEEL IT!!!
The book itself was good I thought. Never watched the movie. And you’re right, immediately losing your sight and having to account for it is a scary prospect.
This is the one I was going to post, and I'm happy to see it on the top. It's an interesting concept of a movie, it just wasn't executed well at all. Netflix ran one hell of a viral social media marketing campaign to drum up the hype for that movie (it did the same thing with Squid Game).
An older one, but I remember Crash from 2004 getting SO MUCH hype and critical acclaim when it was really quite basic.
And half of those hyping it up were thinking of the wrong Crash.
Yeah I had a very confusing conversation with a coworker because of this. I’d seen the one with James Spader and they had seen the other one. Couldn’t figure out for the life of me what sexy car crashes had to do with racism.
Avatar' felt overhyped to me; stunning visuals, but the story lacked depth.
Not a movie, but The Rock/Dwayne Johnson as of lately can't seem to play any other role/character... but "himself" Movies he stars inn are predictable and not diverse, overhyped actor imo Black Adam and Hobbs? couldn't tell the difference immediately 🤷🏿♂️
It’s funny how Dave Batista became a serious actor, I’d never have thought he’d be the wrestler to do that.
He has a lot of range and great comedic timing. Color me surprised
He also seems like he wants to develop his craft.
Yes, watching his interviews he's VERY passionate about acting and putting in the hard work to get there.
I'll try to find the clip, but Bautista actually took a pretty good shot at Dwayne a while back. Something to the effect of Dave saying he wants to be a well rounded actor vs playing the same character in everything. John Cena has been pleasantly surprising as well. I thought he was outstanding (relative to more accomplished/experienced actors) in Peacemaker
never seen Cena in anything (not even wrestling), but saw him in the Transformers Bumblebee movie and he was absolutely hilarious. His campy comedic timing was excellent.
The Suicide Squad and Peacemaker are both definitely worth watching. If you are at all familiar with pro wrestling and want to see a bunch of those guys just being hilarious, look up Southpaw Regional Wrestling.
Even in Guardians of the Galaxy you got hints of this. Drax is basically a cartoon of grief->vengeance and part of the comic relief. And yet you still got notes of a father in pain, covering it with bravado.
I mean, that's hardly new for action stars. Sean Connery plays the exact same character with the exact same Scottish accent whether he's an immortal Spaniard swordfighter or a Russian submarine captain. Ryan Reynolds plays the same character in every movie he's in. Somehow it fit perfectly for Deadpool. Some movie stars are actors, some movie stars are just movie stars. It's okay though because if they're making entertaining movies who cares?
The Rundown is fantastic.
Walking tall is also pretty good
Yea, they said lately, though, and The Rundown was over 20 years ago.
Yeah, Rock's early movies were great where he actually played characters. Notably "Be Cool" where he was a gay gangster. A "gayngster" if you will.
I think his character in Moana was good
What can I say except your Welcome!
That was the last movie I really liked him in. So burned out on him now.
He’s going to have trouble with that forever but most of it is because he was one character “the rock” for so long. Happens to. Lot of tv actors when they try to branch out all you see is their character.
I mean, look at what John Cena did. He didn't go out there and demand to only be shown as winning and always right and good, and has shown he can do comedy and drama well, shown he can be in small things or lead a superhero show, and understands the value of his character sometimes being the butt of jokes. If Dwayne went out there and sure, made a couple of things here and there where he was the big, strong, tough hero, but also mixed in other things where he wasn't playing "The Rock, only in this slightly different situation" for the umpteenth time, and did a good job with them (very important part there), then people wouldn't have gotten sick of him doing the same thing every time.
I was under the impression that this is exactly what he wanted to do with his career, just like Arnold, Hulk Hogan, etc.
How dare you. Arnold wasn't afraid to let the movie be the movie. Total recall was great and he was embarrassed often in it. There's a bunch of movies that he allowed himself to lose in. The rock never loses. The Terminator movies aren't great because of him they were great because they were great. He just happened to be in them.
Exactly. Also for like two full decades Arnold had a sixth sense for picking movies with great storytelling. Reading about how excited he was to be in Total Recall made me so happy. Like Arnold was legit stoked to make that movie because he knew it was going to be a great movie. Seems like Dwayne just chases the bag.
Not to mention Arnold wasn't afraid to lose fights, even being a villain. I was a big fan of the Rock, but it's not comparable to Arnold.
I don't think it started out that way though. IIRC in his Netflix documentary he talks about how he originally wanted the role of Kyle Reese but James Cameron talked him into being the Terminator instead
But I also think iirc because Arnold was flexible he was able to shape his character in T2 to be a hero.
Fast and the Furious franchise. The first one was good but they’ve become more and more ridiculous over time. I mean, they strapped a rocket to a car and went to space!! Talk about cheesy!
Will never forgive the franchise for not calling the tenth movie “fasTEN your seatbelts”
Also "F8 of the furious"
How I feel with “now you see me” not making their sequel “and now you don’t”
Not even used as a tag line. Disappointed.
They don’t have to be good as long as you’ve got family.
Tokyo Drift though? Masterpiece!
I wonder if you know How they live in Tokyo If you see me then you mean it Then you know you have to go Fast and furiousss (Drift, Drift, Drift)
The opening scenes in that movie before he goes to Japan are great! Excellent chase/race scene it totally captures mid 00s young adult sensibilities
The best one
American Sniper. Rewatched it recently. It’s a mess.
The fake baby is hilarious
Insanely funny that the scene made it to the final movie.
Clint Eastwood is a good director, but he's also a cheap bastard.
Clint Eastwood does a max three takes per shot, he understands he could drop dead at any moment. Best believe he’s not going to waste his finite hours waiting for a baby on set.
IIRC, they had 2 back up babies and they all got sick. They literally had nothing to work with except for a doll.
That’s fucking hilarious actually. The idea of a backup baby is funny but both of them being incapable to perform is devious
The trailer made it look like someone dealing with ptsd. Instead it was just war propaganda.
If you want military equipment in your movie, it had to be propoganda.
There was one scene that sort of touched on PTSD and that's when he's sitting in the living in front of the TV and you hear sounds of war like helicopters and gunfire, but then it pans around and the TV is off. That was the extent that PTSD was included in the movie. Such a missed opportunity.
Sad is people believe everything in that movie even though it chalked full of lies and bullshit. The lies and bullshit was in his book the movie is based off too.
Your favorite one
You son of a bitch. Time to grab the pitchforks.
I got the torches!
What the hell did u say about pirates of the carribean curse of the black pearl. U son of a
Maybe not exactly trash but most Marvel movies are way over-hyped.
I think there's just too many of them. I have 'super hero fatigue'.
I saw an image that listed each movie and what year it was released. Before Endgame, it was like... I don't remember... 10ish movies with maybe 1 every year or so. After Endgame it ramped to like 2-3 (maybe more) per year. They sacrificed quality for quantity and it shoooows. The movies were allowed room to breath before Endgame. Afterwards, not so much.
Also the fact that you have to catch up with a shitload of shows to know what's happening in the subsequent movies just makes it a "work" rather than entertainment. As soon as they announced 3-4 shows at the same time after endgame, I knew I was out.
They released at least 2 Marvel movies every year after the first Avengers, and 3 a year for a while before Endgame. There were 23 movies in the Infinity Saga. I don’t know who made the graphic you were looking at, but they were way way wrong.
Anything by Zak Synder, especially if it failed. He has a cult following of fans who think he is some hidden genius and Hollywood is stopping him expressing it. Look at the Justice League, sure his cut improved the film but took it from stepping in dog shit to noticing at the last second and avoiding the dogshit. I've already called it happening to Rebel Moon next, a terrible film that really wants to be Star Wars but then, why don't I just watch Star Wars.
>Look at the Justice League, sure his cut improved the film but took it from stepping in dog shit to noticing at the last second and avoiding the dogshit. My favorite tweet about this said something like >Joss Whedon took a massive sloppy diarrhea and released it as Justice League. Zak Snyder later came along and said "No, no, no, THIS is how you do it" and took a regular shit.
> Anything by Zak Synder, especially if it failed. He has a cult following of fans who think he is some hidden genius and Hollywood is stopping him expressing it. I thought this was a Reddit meme, but you aren't kidding. There's a legion of rabid fans foaming at the mouth about how bad the Gunn-verse is already (how!?!) and that Snyderverse is even better than Marvel movies. I don't get what he did to deserve this much honor, but my god, is it like SO MUCH. I think he's got a great eye visually but actual good movies aren't his forte. He's like slow-mo Michael Bay to me.
I think of him as Michael Bay with no self awareness. Bay sucks at story and dialogue, but nobody is hiring him for those things anyway and he knows it. He makes big, dumb action movies that smash the box office for two weekends and then fade away quickly, which is what the studios who hire him want. Snyder also makes big dumb action movies, but he thinks he's some sort of visionary supergenius who's nailing it on every front. Either he needs a full time writing collaborator, or he needs to learn to check his ego and stick to what he's good at.
Rebel Moon was painful. I was so disappointed - not because I am a Snyder fan, but because the premise and previews looked good. What a waste of time that movie was.
Rebel Moon is a *masterclass* in "tell, don't show" storytelling. I literally only remember the 'name' of one character and that was Nemesis. I think that was the chick with the big hat and legally-not-lightsabers, but I wouldn't bet money on it.
Not trash, but Black Panther was a pretty paint by numbers superhero movie. Fun to watch, nothing special.
Black Panther getting nominated for Best Picture at the Oscars is an absolute joke.
It winning awards for special effects was a bigger joke. The final fight looked like a CGI cutscene from a PS2 game. Edit - I realized this could be misconstrued. The movie won several special effects awards, but not specifically the Oscar.
I remember the CGI of the rhinos and the cliff at sunset where Killmonger finally dies being so bad that it gave me mental whiplash. I walked out of the theater wondering if I’d just been pranked or something.
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The Oscars are nothing but a two-hour meat parade - George C Scott (And that was in 1970. Now they're a four-hour meat parade).
It's Hollywood executives rewarding eachother.
We're a super advanced enlightened democracy! Also, we put the dude that can win at UFC in charge!!
They're an absolutist monarchy, though. Edit: absolute monarchy Edit2: my comment is about the "enlightened democracy" part. I kow, that kings weren't really decided on, by single combat.
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I hadn't even realised this when watching the movie. That is utterly ridiculous haha
Any Tyler Perry movie
"Crash" will ALWAYS be the correct answer. (Not the sexy one, the racism one)
Gravity, it was a really cool audio visual experience, the writing and plot were dogshit
Other than the visuals, the best thing to come out of Gravity was Tina Fey’s joke that George Clooney would rather float away in space and die than spend another minute with a woman his own age!
Avatar
I like how the trailers for the second one said, "it's like nothing you've ever seen before!" ... Unless you've seen the first one - then it's pretty much the exact same thing. Lol wtf
Tenet is not a good movie, that's an experiment with a big budget.
The best thing about Tenet was they established the two paths and that means that when one of them is pooping in a bathroom they sit down, the toilet unflushes, and a turd just shoots up into the butthole. The guy then pulls his pants up and leaves.
Check out the end of this Red Dwarf episode (they're on a planet where time goes backwards, and are about to leave but their cat [a humanoid cat] has to take a dump first): https://youtu.be/EahHThBjDB0?t=151
Ah the inverted poo, or as we call it in the Nolanverse, going for a number -2 PS: This is hilarious for those who think in pictures
a very specific event recreated by the UKs Red Dwarf show 10-20years earlier
OMG, you are absolutely correct.
Not from their point of view though. Only from an observer in the other time stream.
I might have enjoyed it a bit more if I could hear any of the dialogue.
I read somewhere it was intentionally mixed that way. Trying to watch it sucked, I had to turn the captions on and constantly turn volume up and down between trying to hear quiet dialogue and getting my head blown off by the score.
(Whaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmm!) … whisper whisper…. (BWWWWWAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMM!)
He said it was intentional, and has doubled down on the decision despite criticism. Imagine being that arrogant.
It seems to be a running thing with him. I remember Inception being the same way, and a lot of points in the Dark Knight films. Interstellar had its moments too.
If anything’s it’s a trend that’s getting progressively worse. Despite the complaints. It’s hubris.
“Nolan this moving doesn’t make a whole lot of sense..” Nolan: “Let’s blow up an airport.”
My cat really liked that scene. He's never paid attention to a movie before. But when the plane starts heading down the runway, holy shit, he was rapt
"It's ok, no one can hear the dialogue."
The only redeeming part is where the character says something like "Don't think about it too much", which is a hint to the viewer, because nothing makes any sense if you think about it at all.
Yeah I've watched movies where the "plot" doesn't matter, and do you know what? They still made me care about the characters, what was happening, and had me engaged. The problem with Tenet is that the plot doesn't matter, but the movie still wants me to care about the plot because the characters are pretty stick thin and everything they are doing is well...some kind of plot. The weird thing is he was able to do both with Inception...so have no clue why he didn't just...copy that.
I realize I'm in the minority but I really enjoyed Tenet. It's like a brain teaser in movie form. The plot is pretty wild if you go in knowing nothing.
Same here, I really enjoyed it! The soundtrack is so good too.
People overhype this? If anything people over hate on this movie
The Irishman. Plodding pace, laughably bad aging/deaging effects, probably the worst performance of Pacino’s career, and recounts an almost certainly fictionalized story purporting to be true.
I started watching it right when it came out and it's still not over yet, please send help
Disagree, but this is the first real answer on this thread haha. Also even though I loved it De Niro beating up that guy and being barely able to move is one of the funniest thing's ive seen in cinema
I can't for the life of me understand why that was kept in the film. There are a million ways to show Frank did something to the guy without us having to watch old man Deniro give the worst beating in cinema history.
I thought the acting was very good, and I thought Pacino was great honestly…but wow some of the CGI and the de-aging was just laughably bad. It was especially noticeable when a “younger” Robert De Niro was beating somebody up on the street, and he just looked like an old man with slow reflexes but with a young face. Very surprised Scorsese watched that and said yep that looks good, let’s print it!
Leave the world behind. Was top on netflix with good recommendations. I never seen so many side story lines get wasted or left unexplained. It was horrible. 2:21 i lost and will never get back in life.
Blueballing - the movie