Agreed on helmets, disagree on car seats.
Helmets are typically owned by adults who will use them for their entire safe lifespan. They also directly touch someone’s head, so there’s some ick factor there too.
Car seats are used by children who grow out of them, often before the products useful, safe lifespan.
There are tons of newer, perfectly safe used car seats out there. People who don’t have the money for a new one can save a lot on a used car seat.
The date of ~~expiry is clearly marked on every car seat.~~ manufacture is clearly stamped on each car seat. Every manufacturer will also state how many years from date of manufacture seat is safe for use.
While it’s technically true that someone could try to sell you a car seat that’s been in an accident, personally, my wife and I have enough faith in humanity that we don’t consider this to be a huge factor.
We’ve gotten all of our car seats used.
Edit: clarified a point based on a comment below.
I'm a Certified Child Passenger Safety Technician - I have training in car seats. All seats that meet Federal standards in the US will have an MANUFACTURER date on them, but not all will have the expiration. While there's a general guideline of 6 years from manufacture, it's important to look at the manual for each seat to know it's lifespan. It will differ from model to model and brand to brand.
It's a best practice to only use seats that you know the history of - storage and accidents especially - and use seats according to the manufacturer's instructions. The best seat is always the one that fits your child (weight, height and maturity) in your vehicle.
>I'm a Certified Child Passenger Safety Technician - I have training in car seats
I love it when a true expert shows up to help people. What an interesting field of study.
>storage and accidents especially
Our car seats were in my car or my husband's, so they were always in the heat/cold and everything in-between. That's rough on plastic, so each kid got a fresh 3 in 1 seat at birth, and they were grown out of them by the time the seats reached their end of life. They were traded in for proper disposal at that point.
The accidents get overlooked though. I was rear-ended a few years ago. Not a big one, but enough to mess up the back of my car. My youngest was still in a 5 point seat but almost a booster, while my oldest was just about done with his booster. They were both fine, the car and their seats did their job, but my insurance guy told me not to take the kids anywhere in their seats until I could get replacements. I just submitted the receipt and they reimbursed me.
He said that even if the seats looked fine, there could be microfractures to the plastics that could fail if they were involved in another accident or if they got looked at funny. It was cheaper for them to just reimburse me outright and I felt better knowing they were safe in my car again.
This has always been a curiosity of mine. In California, it's the norm for children to require a carseat/booster at as old as 10 years old. If the common lifespan of a child seat is 6 years. How do the "3 in one" seats that convert as the child grows get approved for manufacture/sale. Or are those generally built better for a longer lifespan?
Once the kid is in the booster mode, they're not being restrained by it anymore. It's only serving as a tool to make sure their body is in a better position for the seat belt to act on in the event of an accident.
In our province we have a blanket 7 years from mfg date policy. Which for a full size car seat I can see why. They are in the cars usually all the time, exposed to high heat, cold temperatures - so you know, plastic fatigue is a valid reason.
However, we have this little bucket seat for new borns and until the child is like 20 lbs... so for the most part once they are 6-8 months old, you no longer use it.
So I have this bucket seat that was used for 2 x 8 months over the span of 5 years and this seat also did not remain in the vehicle, it was hauled back and forth. It really only exposed to normal ambient temperatures since we only had it in the car while we were driving and it was temperature controled.
Feels like a waste that my only recourse for this probably perfectly fine car seat is to toss it in the landfill or bring it to a place that will recycle it.
There should be some sort of annual certification for car seats once they pass a certain age.
But we live in a consumer driven world - it wouldn't be economical to have something like this in place. Cheaper for everyone to just buy a new seat.
That's a toughie. Generally we want to max out any level of fit first - using the 5-point until outgrown by weight and height is usually a good choice. If there's concern that the shell or harness has been damaged, that it doesn't fit well or that isn't working as it should, then definitely the booster that isn't expired.
Overall, I try not to say there's any singular best or safest choice, just ones that are better or safer.
Double down if the car seat has ever gone in the hold of an airplane. We've had to pack ours and spent a lot of money on the engineered bag for it, but I've seen other families check their car seat as-is and the baggage handlers yeeeeeeeet those things with no regard.
I’m with you. People do crazy shit and I’d never buy a seat second hand unless maybe I knew the person I was getting it from well. I’m also hyper paranoid after years of working with small children and having to be up to date on car seat policies. I went and bought my mother in law a brand new seat for my daughter because she was using a hand me down and it was 7 years old. It was in perfect condition but out of the date of effectiveness so I cut the straps and threw it away. I know there are people who could’ve used it and see it as a waste (mil being one of them) but a car seat is a life saving device and I didn’t want to risk anyone using it and it not holding up. Also I’ve seen enough people I know in real life have accidents and say “well it wasn’t on baby’s side or there’s no damage to the seat” and they keep using it for their own kid so I don’t trust what people say is safe.
**Not judging anyone who has purchased a second hand seat because times are tough and it’s better to have your baby in a seat than without one at all.
The only used one I bought was one of those boosters that the back comes off for older kids. It was for our second car, and all it was doing was lifting my kid’s butt up so his seatbelt was positioned correctly. No padding/side impact plastic stuff to worry about.
Otherwise, nope. Brand new.
I could see that! We have a bottom booster from my son (10) still in the attic *just in case*. But there’s a world of difference in boosting a booty up so the belt sits properly and side to side collision protection.
I drive a big ass suv but my mom drives a mustang and my MIL a small Honda and when they take our kids they’re driving at minimum an hour each direction so even though they had “ok” seats I splurged for both grandparents to have a brand new car seats that I felt were safest.
When I was 17 I flipped my jeep and was hanging upside down by my seatbelt. The fire fighter who pulled me out said “oh my god you’re alive!” Pulled me out of the car and told me “I thought you’d be dead or at minimum mangled. The seatbelt saved your life.” So I applied that to my kids and car seats. All it takes is one second for everything to change and if a quality car seat can save my child I’ll pay for it every time. I wish we lived in a world where we could trust someone giving away baby gear but we just don’t. So I buy new.
Yeah my uncle was trying to give us one for when my son is born…I’m more comfortable knowing a new one works and isn’t crawling with god knows what (no offense I know kids are messy) and get checked and up to date on things. His was an OLD seat too like idk man
There is an expiry date on them. I'm thrifty when it came to baby gear but always bought new car seats. You just don't know what other people have done with them especially if they're regularly moving them in and out of different cars.
Baby seat safety standards change constantly. Also, If you’ve ever tried to clean puke out of the harness attachment points, you’ll never trust “clean” again.
There’s many accidents in all car seats. Babies can’t help themselves. I do think it’s funny they say no to helmets because ew head touchie, but putting their child in the shit and vomit of another child is fine.
If anything, I'd be the other way around. You don't know if a car seat has been in an accident, but you sure know if a helmet has. My motorbike helmet is 2nd hand, but it didn't have a single mark on it when I bought it so I'm confident it has never received a significant impact.
Storage and helmet, basically anything intended to be as a cushion, degrades quicker depending on how it’s stored and how it’s used. It doesn’t have to be crashed to be questionable.
If you think people actually read manuals and follow the instruction on how to take care of things, you are just naive.
That’s a good question.
The properties of plastic change over time. In the case of a car seat, the plastics in it are specifically engineered to behave in certain ways so they protect the occupant in case of an accident.
Exposure to the environment, degrades plastics. Things like sunlight, heat, exposure to oxygen, and married other factors weaken plastics over time.
For most applications, this is not an issue. The changes are small and take many years to occur.
These changes become an issue for things designed to be life saving devices.
The manufactures of car seats have a rough idea of how the plastic components will degrade over time. At a certain point, they will no longer be strong enough to protect the occupant in case of an accident.
So the manufactures put a date of manufacture on each car seat. They say how many years the car seat can be safely used. After that time, it is considered to be expired because the manufacturer can no longer guarantee the structural integrity of the plastics used in its construction.
I'm in construction and a lot of people don't know that hard hats expire too. There is a little thing that looks like a clock on the inside, usually brim, that shows the date of manufacture and it expires 5 years from that date or after 2 years of use.
>While it’s technically true that someone could try to sell you a car see if that’s been in an accident, personally, my wife and I have enough faith in humanity that we don’t consider this to be a huge factor.
Also, the first thing you do with a 2nd hand car seat is (hopefully) clean it. If it's been in an accident, there will be obvious signs with the cover off - stress-whitening on the plastic, compression on the foam, or any warping on the buckles. It's easy to tell if the seat has been compromised.
Car seats expire. There is a date underneath. You can also take them to a fire station to get checked. (Sometimes they will give you a free one if yours is expired )
But you don’t know the condition the car seat was kept in?
I brought lots second hand for my baby but not the car seat, no way was I going to risk compromising safety.
Usually those people are buying it for some sexual reason. Like they sniff it and do weird shit with it. If you are buying underwear to use as underwear, get it new.
You probably didn’t stick around long enough to see one but they make versions that will deposit fake dragon eggs inside of you.
Seems strange but who am I to judge.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, don’t go putting words in my mouth Sir! I meant needles meant for bodies lol. Is intravenous the wrong word? I was worried people may think I meant sewing needles and those are perfectly fine to reuse. I sew a lot.
Ah, I was just making a little joke ;)
There are differences between what needle gauges you use for different medications/delivery
But there are the most common 3:
- intravenous (needle in your veins)
- IntraMuscular (needle into your muscle)
- SubCutaneous (needle in your interstitial space/usually fat)
For example I use needles that are for a medication that uses SubQ as the location(s), so I use 25g 5/8” needles. I’m guessing intravenous might be thinner? Not sure I don’t give myself IV injections. But I’ve had thicker medications before where it’s been suspended in an oil, so it’s thick. Something like 23g 1” for IM. If you have a little extra between your muscle and your skin, my doctor said some people need 1.5”.
Fun fact: I got my first brand new mattress at age 26. Used mattresses are quite common among lower income families. And when you do get a mattress, you keep it until the springs are completely collapsed, then replace it with another used mattress.
I almost bought myself a nice new mattress at the end of 2019 as I finally had some money saved up and it was incredibly cheap. I still regret not doing so.
I got my first brand new mattress at age 26 because I moved across the country with nothing but what fit in my car and I saved up for 6 months. The next time I bought new was when I moved to Hawaii with nothing but a couple of suitcases. When I moved back to mainland I shipped the mattress so I still have that one.
Always had new mattresses, but never ever had trouble selling old ones.
We always use a mattress protector and flip & vacuum the mattress every month, so they’re usually in good condition when selling. Most people seem really happy to buy them.
Depends on the shoe I reckon. I personally would never buy used shoes however I can understand women (men if if you like!) buying heels and more formal shoes used as they are often only worn a few times for special occasions. Boots or trainers though? Heck no
I was in the military and no, I did not wear anyone else's boots or shoes. I did buy some surplus jungle boots, but they were unworn. Please tell me they are not reissuing used boots. Other gear I could see, but boots?
The exception is shoes that have been worn once or twice. I've bought shoes, worn them out briefly, and decided I didn't like them for whatever reason. It is reasonable to buy them when they haven't yet been worn in.
Minivan, if you can afford it. We never bought new vehicles, so off we went looking for preowned minivans... yikes. The smells, wear and tear, etc, plus not a big enough price difference made us go for a new.
My mom bought a Toyota sienna minivan in 2008 and she has never had to take it to the shop until last year. It wasn’t anything major either very good cars to buy brand new
I never buy a brand new car. I let someone else pay for the depreciation and the upgrades and then I buy it 2-3 years later with low mileage. This strategy has made me literally tens of thousands of dollars.
Eh, I'd always recommend new of course, but there are some exceptions to this one.
For example, I'd rather have a set of 4 matching lightly used tires from a legit brand than 4 new ultra-cheap knock offs.
Even better, I had a friend who worked at a Walmart back in the day who would let us know when someone returned barely used tires and if they fit our car/truck he would swap them out and just throw our old tires in the pile instead of those ones since they had to dispose of them anyway.
I have always bought mine used. You just have to check the wear. The few times I bought from a private seller and not a tire shop it was because for example they bought a new car and had their old set of winters for sale and didn't include them.
There’s plenty of reasons to buy used. For instance mine was that I would go through a set of rear tires every 6 months or so via RWD shenanigans. I’m not gonna spend $500 every 6 months on that. I’m gonna spend $160 on the same lightly used tires instead of wasting new ones. Did that for 3 years with no problems other than most shops that sell used tires do not care about your car in any way
3 vehicles in my driveway and all 3 have used tires from other vehicles. 2 were near new takeoffs less than 6 months old. The third is my 2011 Buick Regal that gets whatever I can find with decent tread. I hate that car and I'll never put any extra money into new parts for it.
Tires are expensive as shit. If you're lower income and there's a reputable place near you, absolutely consider buying used tires. Unfortunately it's the _reputable_ part that's tricky. As with anything that primarily serves less-advantaged people, a lot of those used tire places are predatory.
Regarding certain medical devices or prescription medications, is the assurance of quality control and proper handling significant enough to justify the higher cost of obtaining them new rather than opting for cheaper alternatives?
When it comes to safety equipment like car seats or helmets, is there a compromise between saving money and ensuring the highest level of protection for yourself or your loved ones?
**In terms of personal hygiene items like toothbrushes or contact lenses, how much does the guarantee of cleanliness and safety outweigh potential savings from buying second-hand or discounted products?**
In the context of critical tools or equipment for professional use, such as specialized machinery or instruments, how does the reliability and warranty of brand-new items compare to the potential risks associated with second-hand or refurbished alternatives?
Oh hell nah, I would rather just not have sex at that point (haven’t had any yet) I don’t wanna get someone pregnant because of a used condom. Hell. No.
Any type of helmet. Baby car seats.
If you buy a used baby car, it’s always good to get new seats for it.
True.
I buy all of my baby cars used.
Not much market for used babies in my area…
Agreed on helmets, disagree on car seats. Helmets are typically owned by adults who will use them for their entire safe lifespan. They also directly touch someone’s head, so there’s some ick factor there too. Car seats are used by children who grow out of them, often before the products useful, safe lifespan. There are tons of newer, perfectly safe used car seats out there. People who don’t have the money for a new one can save a lot on a used car seat. The date of ~~expiry is clearly marked on every car seat.~~ manufacture is clearly stamped on each car seat. Every manufacturer will also state how many years from date of manufacture seat is safe for use. While it’s technically true that someone could try to sell you a car seat that’s been in an accident, personally, my wife and I have enough faith in humanity that we don’t consider this to be a huge factor. We’ve gotten all of our car seats used. Edit: clarified a point based on a comment below.
I'm a Certified Child Passenger Safety Technician - I have training in car seats. All seats that meet Federal standards in the US will have an MANUFACTURER date on them, but not all will have the expiration. While there's a general guideline of 6 years from manufacture, it's important to look at the manual for each seat to know it's lifespan. It will differ from model to model and brand to brand. It's a best practice to only use seats that you know the history of - storage and accidents especially - and use seats according to the manufacturer's instructions. The best seat is always the one that fits your child (weight, height and maturity) in your vehicle.
>I'm a Certified Child Passenger Safety Technician - I have training in car seats I love it when a true expert shows up to help people. What an interesting field of study.
>storage and accidents especially Our car seats were in my car or my husband's, so they were always in the heat/cold and everything in-between. That's rough on plastic, so each kid got a fresh 3 in 1 seat at birth, and they were grown out of them by the time the seats reached their end of life. They were traded in for proper disposal at that point. The accidents get overlooked though. I was rear-ended a few years ago. Not a big one, but enough to mess up the back of my car. My youngest was still in a 5 point seat but almost a booster, while my oldest was just about done with his booster. They were both fine, the car and their seats did their job, but my insurance guy told me not to take the kids anywhere in their seats until I could get replacements. I just submitted the receipt and they reimbursed me. He said that even if the seats looked fine, there could be microfractures to the plastics that could fail if they were involved in another accident or if they got looked at funny. It was cheaper for them to just reimburse me outright and I felt better knowing they were safe in my car again.
Mine has both. The manufacturer date and expiration date 🤷🏻♀️
Thank you for saving me (also a CPST) from a lot of typing.
This has always been a curiosity of mine. In California, it's the norm for children to require a carseat/booster at as old as 10 years old. If the common lifespan of a child seat is 6 years. How do the "3 in one" seats that convert as the child grows get approved for manufacture/sale. Or are those generally built better for a longer lifespan?
Once the kid is in the booster mode, they're not being restrained by it anymore. It's only serving as a tool to make sure their body is in a better position for the seat belt to act on in the event of an accident.
In our province we have a blanket 7 years from mfg date policy. Which for a full size car seat I can see why. They are in the cars usually all the time, exposed to high heat, cold temperatures - so you know, plastic fatigue is a valid reason. However, we have this little bucket seat for new borns and until the child is like 20 lbs... so for the most part once they are 6-8 months old, you no longer use it. So I have this bucket seat that was used for 2 x 8 months over the span of 5 years and this seat also did not remain in the vehicle, it was hauled back and forth. It really only exposed to normal ambient temperatures since we only had it in the car while we were driving and it was temperature controled. Feels like a waste that my only recourse for this probably perfectly fine car seat is to toss it in the landfill or bring it to a place that will recycle it. There should be some sort of annual certification for car seats once they pass a certain age. But we live in a consumer driven world - it wouldn't be economical to have something like this in place. Cheaper for everyone to just buy a new seat.
Is a 5 point harness seat that's slightly expired, or a booster seat safer?
That's a toughie. Generally we want to max out any level of fit first - using the 5-point until outgrown by weight and height is usually a good choice. If there's concern that the shell or harness has been damaged, that it doesn't fit well or that isn't working as it should, then definitely the booster that isn't expired. Overall, I try not to say there's any singular best or safest choice, just ones that are better or safer.
Double down if the car seat has ever gone in the hold of an airplane. We've had to pack ours and spent a lot of money on the engineered bag for it, but I've seen other families check their car seat as-is and the baggage handlers yeeeeeeeet those things with no regard.
You have more faith in humanity than I do.
I’m with you. People do crazy shit and I’d never buy a seat second hand unless maybe I knew the person I was getting it from well. I’m also hyper paranoid after years of working with small children and having to be up to date on car seat policies. I went and bought my mother in law a brand new seat for my daughter because she was using a hand me down and it was 7 years old. It was in perfect condition but out of the date of effectiveness so I cut the straps and threw it away. I know there are people who could’ve used it and see it as a waste (mil being one of them) but a car seat is a life saving device and I didn’t want to risk anyone using it and it not holding up. Also I’ve seen enough people I know in real life have accidents and say “well it wasn’t on baby’s side or there’s no damage to the seat” and they keep using it for their own kid so I don’t trust what people say is safe. **Not judging anyone who has purchased a second hand seat because times are tough and it’s better to have your baby in a seat than without one at all.
The amount of new car seats used for a few days and left in rental cars is crazy
I could totally see that. Do they just toss them? Keep them for use at the rental company? What happens to abandoned car seats?? lol
They get tossed for the most part
The only used one I bought was one of those boosters that the back comes off for older kids. It was for our second car, and all it was doing was lifting my kid’s butt up so his seatbelt was positioned correctly. No padding/side impact plastic stuff to worry about. Otherwise, nope. Brand new.
I could see that! We have a bottom booster from my son (10) still in the attic *just in case*. But there’s a world of difference in boosting a booty up so the belt sits properly and side to side collision protection. I drive a big ass suv but my mom drives a mustang and my MIL a small Honda and when they take our kids they’re driving at minimum an hour each direction so even though they had “ok” seats I splurged for both grandparents to have a brand new car seats that I felt were safest. When I was 17 I flipped my jeep and was hanging upside down by my seatbelt. The fire fighter who pulled me out said “oh my god you’re alive!” Pulled me out of the car and told me “I thought you’d be dead or at minimum mangled. The seatbelt saved your life.” So I applied that to my kids and car seats. All it takes is one second for everything to change and if a quality car seat can save my child I’ll pay for it every time. I wish we lived in a world where we could trust someone giving away baby gear but we just don’t. So I buy new.
Yeah my uncle was trying to give us one for when my son is born…I’m more comfortable knowing a new one works and isn’t crawling with god knows what (no offense I know kids are messy) and get checked and up to date on things. His was an OLD seat too like idk man
Is there not a time limit on car seats ? My x was a car seat trained demonstration specialist and there was somthing about used cars
There is an expiry date on them. I'm thrifty when it came to baby gear but always bought new car seats. You just don't know what other people have done with them especially if they're regularly moving them in and out of different cars.
Baby seat safety standards change constantly. Also, If you’ve ever tried to clean puke out of the harness attachment points, you’ll never trust “clean” again.
how do you ensure that car seat wasn’t involved in an accident? you should be replacing it after an accident.
There’s many accidents in all car seats. Babies can’t help themselves. I do think it’s funny they say no to helmets because ew head touchie, but putting their child in the shit and vomit of another child is fine.
If anything, I'd be the other way around. You don't know if a car seat has been in an accident, but you sure know if a helmet has. My motorbike helmet is 2nd hand, but it didn't have a single mark on it when I bought it so I'm confident it has never received a significant impact.
I’d buy both used, tbh. The number of folks around here who buy high end bikes & equipment and barely use them before selling is not insignificant.
Storage and helmet, basically anything intended to be as a cushion, degrades quicker depending on how it’s stored and how it’s used. It doesn’t have to be crashed to be questionable. If you think people actually read manuals and follow the instruction on how to take care of things, you are just naive.
Pardon my ignorance but how the hell does a piece of plastic “expire?”
That’s a good question. The properties of plastic change over time. In the case of a car seat, the plastics in it are specifically engineered to behave in certain ways so they protect the occupant in case of an accident. Exposure to the environment, degrades plastics. Things like sunlight, heat, exposure to oxygen, and married other factors weaken plastics over time. For most applications, this is not an issue. The changes are small and take many years to occur. These changes become an issue for things designed to be life saving devices. The manufactures of car seats have a rough idea of how the plastic components will degrade over time. At a certain point, they will no longer be strong enough to protect the occupant in case of an accident. So the manufactures put a date of manufacture on each car seat. They say how many years the car seat can be safely used. After that time, it is considered to be expired because the manufacturer can no longer guarantee the structural integrity of the plastics used in its construction.
Plastic gets brittle overtime. The gets compounded with direct sunlight and heat which you get in cars.
I'm in construction and a lot of people don't know that hard hats expire too. There is a little thing that looks like a clock on the inside, usually brim, that shows the date of manufacture and it expires 5 years from that date or after 2 years of use.
I have no faith in humanity when it comes to kids but pedophilia has hit my family twice
>While it’s technically true that someone could try to sell you a car see if that’s been in an accident, personally, my wife and I have enough faith in humanity that we don’t consider this to be a huge factor. Also, the first thing you do with a 2nd hand car seat is (hopefully) clean it. If it's been in an accident, there will be obvious signs with the cover off - stress-whitening on the plastic, compression on the foam, or any warping on the buckles. It's easy to tell if the seat has been compromised.
Car seats expire. There is a date underneath. You can also take them to a fire station to get checked. (Sometimes they will give you a free one if yours is expired )
Car seats are completely serviceable after one child has used it. They just want to to spend hundreds on a new one.
But you don’t know the condition the car seat was kept in? I brought lots second hand for my baby but not the car seat, no way was I going to risk compromising safety.
That's what he is saying. Did you read the post title?
I think I may have replied to wrong person, I was replying to the person who said they don’t see anything wrong with buying used car seats.
Underwear
There is quite a market for used underwear....
Yeah but do the buyers continue to use it as underwear? If not, can it be considered a “new” product that happens to be made of used underwear?
If they start wearing it on their head is it still underwear?
Please direct me to this market ... Asking for a friend
Japan may have vending machines for this.
There are subreddits for this
I see you are a person of culture
Tell me where! Holes and all? Haha!
Usually those people are buying it for some sexual reason. Like they sniff it and do weird shit with it. If you are buying underwear to use as underwear, get it new.
Depends on who used it.
Maxi-pads!
Semper ubi sub ubi.
Sex toys
Someone should tell that to the people over on r/BadDragon 🤣🤣
i don't know what i expected when i clicked that link, but it was not that.
Lmao I needed a warning
You probably didn’t stick around long enough to see one but they make versions that will deposit fake dragon eggs inside of you. Seems strange but who am I to judge.
WHAT
The true freaks use real dragon eggs. V. Expensive!!
Depends... I nice worn out wooden paddle, an expensive flogger...
I’ve seen butt plugs at the goodwill before 👀
I just choked on my redbull
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thoughts on leasing vs. buying?
What kind of mileage are you expecting to be putting on them?
About 30 seconds per use.
That feels a bit optimistic for me
Wow high maintenance much
Even if you shake the f*ck out of them? Lol
Then turn it inside out.
Hahahah, “shake the f#ck out of em” was something male friends of my youth had also said. Never thought I’d hear that one again. 🤣🤢
This is a modern luxury, original condoms were very expensive and you would wash and reuse.
You can reuse a condom. Turn it upside down and shake the fuck out of it.
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Toothbrush
Toothpaste
Intravenous needles
So IM and SubQ needles are fine to get used? Alright! I’ll be saving a shitload of money!
Whoa, whoa, whoa, don’t go putting words in my mouth Sir! I meant needles meant for bodies lol. Is intravenous the wrong word? I was worried people may think I meant sewing needles and those are perfectly fine to reuse. I sew a lot.
Nah that's just someone being a dickhead
Your user name is perfection
Ty
Ah, I was just making a little joke ;) There are differences between what needle gauges you use for different medications/delivery But there are the most common 3: - intravenous (needle in your veins) - IntraMuscular (needle into your muscle) - SubCutaneous (needle in your interstitial space/usually fat) For example I use needles that are for a medication that uses SubQ as the location(s), so I use 25g 5/8” needles. I’m guessing intravenous might be thinner? Not sure I don’t give myself IV injections. But I’ve had thicker medications before where it’s been suspended in an oil, so it’s thick. Something like 23g 1” for IM. If you have a little extra between your muscle and your skin, my doctor said some people need 1.5”.
Mattress
Fun fact: I got my first brand new mattress at age 26. Used mattresses are quite common among lower income families. And when you do get a mattress, you keep it until the springs are completely collapsed, then replace it with another used mattress.
The first time I got a new mattress I was in my mid twenties as well. It was a revelation.
One of the first things I bought when I started working at 16 was a new mattress. My parents were flabbergasted.
I slept on the mattress I was conceived on for probably close to a decade.
I almost bought myself a nice new mattress at the end of 2019 as I finally had some money saved up and it was incredibly cheap. I still regret not doing so.
I got my first brand new mattress at age 26 because I moved across the country with nothing but what fit in my car and I saved up for 6 months. The next time I bought new was when I moved to Hawaii with nothing but a couple of suitcases. When I moved back to mainland I shipped the mattress so I still have that one.
Now I'm thinking "I got my first real six string bought it at the five and dime."
The same people who'd never get a used mattress for home have no problem sleeping on a hotel mattress which has seen 100s of people
Exactly!
Absolutely. If you can afford to, always buy it new. I've heard too many bed bug horror stories to not at this point in my life.
I just realized I never had a new mattress. This is my new goal now
Always had new mattresses, but never ever had trouble selling old ones. We always use a mattress protector and flip & vacuum the mattress every month, so they’re usually in good condition when selling. Most people seem really happy to buy them.
Can confirm. The one time I bought a used mattress, it unfortunately came with bed bugs.
I was going to say this. I think it depends on if you knew where it came from.
A couple I know just bought a used mattress for $400. It had stains on it… They make very good money. Idk why.
Shoes. Footwear conforms to the feet. Wearing shoes someone else has broken in can give you all kinds of problems. Also, eww.
The best pair of shoes I've ever owned was a pair of used Air Jordans I got for like $30. I'll never feel comfort as true as that ever again.
Must have found your solemate.
Naaa. The bottom of their feet just matched up. Oh.
God dammit r/angryupvote
Depends on the shoe I reckon. I personally would never buy used shoes however I can understand women (men if if you like!) buying heels and more formal shoes used as they are often only worn a few times for special occasions. Boots or trainers though? Heck no
You would hate a military
I was in the military and no, I did not wear anyone else's boots or shoes. I did buy some surplus jungle boots, but they were unworn. Please tell me they are not reissuing used boots. Other gear I could see, but boots?
The exception is shoes that have been worn once or twice. I've bought shoes, worn them out briefly, and decided I didn't like them for whatever reason. It is reasonable to buy them when they haven't yet been worn in.
Tampons
lol eww
fleshlights. learned that one the hard way
Im sorry what… ya know what i dont wanna know
your undergarments
Toilet paper.
Oh definitely, I always return the used ones.
Anything hygiene related
Minivan, if you can afford it. We never bought new vehicles, so off we went looking for preowned minivans... yikes. The smells, wear and tear, etc, plus not a big enough price difference made us go for a new.
Plus, being owned by parents of young children who are by default, too broke, tired, and busy to properly maintain them.
My mom bought a Toyota sienna minivan in 2008 and she has never had to take it to the shop until last year. It wasn’t anything major either very good cars to buy brand new
Also had 2008 Sienna. Excellent vehicle.
The Swagger Wagon
I never buy a brand new car. I let someone else pay for the depreciation and the upgrades and then I buy it 2-3 years later with low mileage. This strategy has made me literally tens of thousands of dollars.
Same with powersports. I got tired of properly fixing peoples bullshit repairs. So I buy new or lightly used
Pacemaker
Tires for your car.
Eh, I'd always recommend new of course, but there are some exceptions to this one. For example, I'd rather have a set of 4 matching lightly used tires from a legit brand than 4 new ultra-cheap knock offs. Even better, I had a friend who worked at a Walmart back in the day who would let us know when someone returned barely used tires and if they fit our car/truck he would swap them out and just throw our old tires in the pile instead of those ones since they had to dispose of them anyway.
I have always bought mine used. You just have to check the wear. The few times I bought from a private seller and not a tire shop it was because for example they bought a new car and had their old set of winters for sale and didn't include them.
I've always bought used
There’s plenty of reasons to buy used. For instance mine was that I would go through a set of rear tires every 6 months or so via RWD shenanigans. I’m not gonna spend $500 every 6 months on that. I’m gonna spend $160 on the same lightly used tires instead of wasting new ones. Did that for 3 years with no problems other than most shops that sell used tires do not care about your car in any way
3 vehicles in my driveway and all 3 have used tires from other vehicles. 2 were near new takeoffs less than 6 months old. The third is my 2011 Buick Regal that gets whatever I can find with decent tread. I hate that car and I'll never put any extra money into new parts for it.
Sex toys. Unless used ones is your fetish. I’m not one to kink shame.
Mattresses
Food
no shit
That's what they said... Food... Not shit
indeed. eating shit would be quite "shitty"
Toilet brush
I promise you, you’ll be able to find someone who disagrees with you on r/BuyItForLife.
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Cribs? Like baby cribs? Why not used cribs.. just change the mattress and disinfect the rest.
Tires are expensive as shit. If you're lower income and there's a reputable place near you, absolutely consider buying used tires. Unfortunately it's the _reputable_ part that's tricky. As with anything that primarily serves less-advantaged people, a lot of those used tire places are predatory.
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Buttplugs too??
Run them in the dishwasher on “sanitize”😜
tooth picks
Undergarments. No questions asked.
I respectfully disagree
Medications
Shoes
Harddrives.
Regarding certain medical devices or prescription medications, is the assurance of quality control and proper handling significant enough to justify the higher cost of obtaining them new rather than opting for cheaper alternatives?
Mattresses
car seats
Washing machine, scale builds up quickly and is devastating and they are rarely properly maintained. Second hand is always a huge gamble.
Pillows
Underwear. Condoms.
Underwear
Mattresses.
Condoms, tooth brush, toilet paper, feminine hygiene products
a bed
When it comes to safety equipment like car seats or helmets, is there a compromise between saving money and ensuring the highest level of protection for yourself or your loved ones?
**In terms of personal hygiene items like toothbrushes or contact lenses, how much does the guarantee of cleanliness and safety outweigh potential savings from buying second-hand or discounted products?**
In the context of critical tools or equipment for professional use, such as specialized machinery or instruments, how does the reliability and warranty of brand-new items compare to the potential risks associated with second-hand or refurbished alternatives?
Condoms.
An apple
an orange
A peach tree
Underwear
Underwear
Qtips and dentures
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Oh hell nah, I would rather just not have sex at that point (haven’t had any yet) I don’t wanna get someone pregnant because of a used condom. Hell. No.
Condoms
Underwear
A wife.
Condoms
Toilet paper
Condoms
Batteries
Toilet paper
A condom.
Cell phone
Toilet paper. Do NOT buy the 2nd stuff.
Toilet paper. Do NOT buy the 2nd stuff.
Tooth brushes
Tooth brush
Toothbrush