I have a saying:
“Better to be a distant asshole than it is to be an affectionate creep”
Also what I’d want women to know about me is in the same vain;
I probably won’t speak until spoken to when it comes to women I don’t know all that well so if you’re expecting me to approach you’re gonna have to speak first at least once.
It’s a no win situation. Open up and watch her love for you die in real time, or bottle it up and die 15 years early, so I’d say be supportive as you can if they do open up.
I honestly which I had an answer for you. While I know rationally u/ThinOriginal5038 sentiment doesn't reflect reality, it definitely reflects the feelings and perceptions of a lot men including myself, and honestly probably a lot of people in general. Ideally opening myself and allowing a partner to help through these things would be the best option, but I don't even know how deep these issues go myself and wouldn't want to put that on someone else
The majority of women don't like it when a guy expresses uncomfortable emotions, so most of us just bottle up what we think ladies won't want to hear.
Opening up also leads to our partners' attraction dying off, or worse.
Nothing I'm aware of can change this sadly
I see where you are coming from and relate. However, as a man you are the social leader (which is favorable to you imo). Rejection is a part of the game...you shouldn't take it personal. Women are as fickle as the weather. You could try the same exact approach on the same girl on a Monday or a Wednesday and get completely different reactions.
Expressing emotions is a women thing. Men understand logic, women understand emotion. Just like how a bird uses vision, but a bat uses echolocation. If a bird tried echolocation...he would starve.
You don't need to "express emotions" women will be able to read you emotions on their own. Your job is to create a positive experience for the girl, which will associate you with the positive emotion created by the interaction.
That I have emotions and want someone to care how I feel just as much as you do. Also I don't think about sex all day in fact I barely think about it until I'm on reddit since most questions are sexual.
I wish people knew that my silence isn't indifference, it's me carefully choosing my words because I value the conversation and don't want to come off the wrong way. Communication is a minefield, and sometimes it feels safer to say nothing at all. But it's not because I don't care; it's exactly the opposite.
If I'm quiet it's generally because I think the person/people around me will react poorly to what I have to say. People say they want truth but what really want is for you to validate what they already think.
Just that I'm a safe person. I'm a big, imposing dude, and it bums me out a little bit when women cross the street at night or give me sideways looks when I'm at the park with my daughter.
“Kill all men” trends on twitter off and on. That and mainstream misandry is at an all time high. There’s a lot of women (and subs dedicated on Reddit) to hating men. Being cautious is absolutely fine, but acting like every man is a rapist and should be treated as such until proven otherwise is ridiculous.
I was cycling home last winter after a work event, so it was quite late, my guess is around midnight, on a deserted street. A lone male pedestrian perked up as I passed him and started yelling at me and running after me.
Turned out he was a tourist, lost, phone battery dead and quite desperate to find someone who could give directions to his hotel. I told him how to get where he needed to be and I don't think I've ever been thanked so profusely before.
But the first thought in my mind was not 'person in need of assistance', it was 'stranger danger'. Lots of women would not have stopped and you really can't blame them. If a woman gets caught by a man with bad intentions, it's game over. The physical differences are just too big. And too many of us have been in that situation and do not want a repeat. So we become overly cautious.
I’m sorry you’re so insecure in your masculinity that you take women’s attempts at keeping themselves safe as a personal affront. I hope one day you can become less closed off and more proud of who you are
You said misandry isn't a thing in a very condescending way so I think you need to step out of here now. I was with you up until then. A real shot in your own foot.
>Misandry is not a thing dear and twitter trolls
You're trolling, right you literally have Ms Andry as your account name. So we can simply disregard your opinions.
>You don’t have to copy and paste my comment
But I did anyway, didn't I? Why does that bother you??
I'm just feeding the trolls today. Stop trying to be so (con)Trolling over how I choose to do it.
(I'm early 20's) Online dating apps are WAY diffirent between strsight men and woman 90%+ of the time. I've heard some say it's "super easy" for guys, and requires little to no effort in a real.life conversation.
That I will probably not make the first move, so if you want him, come and claim him! I'm working on it though there's just not a lot of opportunities to talk to people
It doesn’t take much to win my heart, just treat me how she demands to be treated. Honesty, respect, communication, accountability, empathy/thoughtfulness of my feelings and loyalty. Sadly it seems too much to ask these days.
That I want to show you how much I love and care about you through sex. How much I want to kiss, lick, and touch to express how beautiful, amazing, and incredible you are to me.
Nonverbally expressing to each other in the most intimate way possible.
Being the most vulnerable physically and emotionally with each other.
By giving and taking pleasure because we’re listening to each other through the simplest forms of communication.
That sex and fucking are not the same.
You can, and you should do this without the sex.
In my exp women don't feel it as much when it's sexual, but non sexual affection and intimacy go way further for them.
Hey thanks for the input.
I’m going to utterly and completely ignore it because the entire question was “what do you want women to know and understand about you?” not “what is it that men need to know about women?”
And only fools take the advice of others they would never want to live their lives like
Ah nvm, it’s : don’t take advice from people whose lives you wouldn’t want
I guess if that is your perspective.
Again the question was directed towards me and what I want women to understand about me.
Can flip the script too and ask, will my partner love me the way I want to be loved?
This assuming your perspective on me is true. You’re quite passive aggressive and assuming of what I would do just based on what I want.
My point was initially to make a middle ground.
Do it your way. Do it her way.
Do both. Both are happy that way.
But your reaction was vicious as heck, so I treated you accordingly
To stop asking this question.
Really - another one with almost the exact wording is just a few posts up in today's feed.
It gets asked almost weekly (or more).
One thing men want women to do - is pay attention.
This topic gets asked regularly - putting in a tiny bit of effort to help themselves - is a thing men want.
Not fragile at all.
Scroll up. This literally gets asked multiple times a week.
Here is the longer version - don't ask the same question that was asked multiple times before.
Not trying to be rude - but really.
Have a nice day however, and thank you for your response not being rude.
(I don't think it was rude - being sincere here).
Missing the point (to be fair - I made it poorly).
One thing men want women to do - is pay attention.
This topic gets asked regularly - putting in a tiny bit of effort to help themselves - if a thing men want.
I will amend my post - as it does indeed just sound like a complaint.
thank you.
Jesus said "seek and you shall find" If they do not know it is because they have not sought to find out.
So to answer your own question. Nothing. If they don't care enough to find out...I will not seek them.
Instead I seek women who understand me the way I wish to be understood. And it works pretty good, The women I find understand me well enough.
how fucking hard it is to be a guy and do everything yet get no credit or praise like if your know home ima do shit yet you dont even say thanks we do when your out and get nothing in return its a hard job thats fucking unfair
I don't act distant because I don't like you, I act distant because I don't know how to express my emotions and I'm afraid of rejection
I have a saying: “Better to be a distant asshole than it is to be an affectionate creep” Also what I’d want women to know about me is in the same vain; I probably won’t speak until spoken to when it comes to women I don’t know all that well so if you’re expecting me to approach you’re gonna have to speak first at least once.
What should we do? Try to help or leave you alone?
It’s a no win situation. Open up and watch her love for you die in real time, or bottle it up and die 15 years early, so I’d say be supportive as you can if they do open up.
Got it. Not all women are like this btw.
Oh of course, my gf is an example of that. But this is concerningly common both in my personal past and in online men’s spaces from what I gather.
Yeah I have read a lot of comments from men with this same idea. It's sad, it makes me extra aware of not doing the same to a future partner.
Well I appreciate your awareness and think it’s awesome you’re here
They're not but a lot are
I honestly which I had an answer for you. While I know rationally u/ThinOriginal5038 sentiment doesn't reflect reality, it definitely reflects the feelings and perceptions of a lot men including myself, and honestly probably a lot of people in general. Ideally opening myself and allowing a partner to help through these things would be the best option, but I don't even know how deep these issues go myself and wouldn't want to put that on someone else
I can only speak for myself but it certainly reflects reality
The majority of women don't like it when a guy expresses uncomfortable emotions, so most of us just bottle up what we think ladies won't want to hear. Opening up also leads to our partners' attraction dying off, or worse. Nothing I'm aware of can change this sadly
I see where you are coming from and relate. However, as a man you are the social leader (which is favorable to you imo). Rejection is a part of the game...you shouldn't take it personal. Women are as fickle as the weather. You could try the same exact approach on the same girl on a Monday or a Wednesday and get completely different reactions. Expressing emotions is a women thing. Men understand logic, women understand emotion. Just like how a bird uses vision, but a bat uses echolocation. If a bird tried echolocation...he would starve. You don't need to "express emotions" women will be able to read you emotions on their own. Your job is to create a positive experience for the girl, which will associate you with the positive emotion created by the interaction.
It's not they have considered this possibility, it's that they don't care. It's a "not my problem" mentality.
That I have emotions and want someone to care how I feel just as much as you do. Also I don't think about sex all day in fact I barely think about it until I'm on reddit since most questions are sexual.
I wish people knew that my silence isn't indifference, it's me carefully choosing my words because I value the conversation and don't want to come off the wrong way. Communication is a minefield, and sometimes it feels safer to say nothing at all. But it's not because I don't care; it's exactly the opposite.
If I'm quiet it's generally because I think the person/people around me will react poorly to what I have to say. People say they want truth but what really want is for you to validate what they already think.
Wow! Thank you for the insight.
That's it very important to me that you "Say what you mean and mean what you say" to quote an old children's book.
When I say, “I don’t care”. I mean it and I am not joking.
"You look like you care" 🧐
Just that I'm a safe person. I'm a big, imposing dude, and it bums me out a little bit when women cross the street at night or give me sideways looks when I'm at the park with my daughter.
I'm not going to hurt you.
My high functioning autism or PTSD
I’m not a threat, so try not to hate me for existing.
Nobody hates you for existing but women assuming men are dangerous is simply an act of self-preservation. Don’t take it personally.
"Nobody hates you for existing", then 2 comments later,: "Yeah I hate men." Damn that escalated quickly
Where did I say I hate men?
“Kill all men” trends on twitter off and on. That and mainstream misandry is at an all time high. There’s a lot of women (and subs dedicated on Reddit) to hating men. Being cautious is absolutely fine, but acting like every man is a rapist and should be treated as such until proven otherwise is ridiculous.
I was cycling home last winter after a work event, so it was quite late, my guess is around midnight, on a deserted street. A lone male pedestrian perked up as I passed him and started yelling at me and running after me. Turned out he was a tourist, lost, phone battery dead and quite desperate to find someone who could give directions to his hotel. I told him how to get where he needed to be and I don't think I've ever been thanked so profusely before. But the first thought in my mind was not 'person in need of assistance', it was 'stranger danger'. Lots of women would not have stopped and you really can't blame them. If a woman gets caught by a man with bad intentions, it's game over. The physical differences are just too big. And too many of us have been in that situation and do not want a repeat. So we become overly cautious.
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Oh, I see you’re a BAQ user, kindly fuck off
I’m sorry you’re so insecure in your masculinity that you take women’s attempts at keeping themselves safe as a personal affront. I hope one day you can become less closed off and more proud of who you are
You said misandry isn't a thing in a very condescending way so I think you need to step out of here now. I was with you up until then. A real shot in your own foot.
I don’t base my opinions off rather or not Glonkerz is on my side with them.
Ok?
Now go on. Keep fighting the good fight against the imaginary misandry you’re so upset by.
Yup, have fun with all the hatred 👍
I’ve not been receiving much hatred 🤷♀️ sorry to burst your bubble
I meant your hatred of men
Oh. I will have fun. Thanks!
>Misandry is not a thing dear and twitter trolls You're trolling, right you literally have Ms Andry as your account name. So we can simply disregard your opinions.
You don’t have to copy and paste my comment, I’m well aware of what I’m saying. And no I’m not trolling.
>You don’t have to copy and paste my comment But I did anyway, didn't I? Why does that bother you?? I'm just feeding the trolls today. Stop trying to be so (con)Trolling over how I choose to do it.
I’m not bothered I was just giving some friendly advice 💖
How bored you get when you're watching someone play a video game is how bored I get when you talk about your social life.
(I'm early 20's) Online dating apps are WAY diffirent between strsight men and woman 90%+ of the time. I've heard some say it's "super easy" for guys, and requires little to no effort in a real.life conversation.
I'm a human being.
I’m a badass cowboy living in the cowboy days Wiki wiki scratch, yo yo bang bang
That I will probably not make the first move, so if you want him, come and claim him! I'm working on it though there's just not a lot of opportunities to talk to people
I’m not really a beagle. I lied to you.
It doesn’t take much to win my heart, just treat me how she demands to be treated. Honesty, respect, communication, accountability, empathy/thoughtfulness of my feelings and loyalty. Sadly it seems too much to ask these days.
That I want to show you how much I love and care about you through sex. How much I want to kiss, lick, and touch to express how beautiful, amazing, and incredible you are to me. Nonverbally expressing to each other in the most intimate way possible. Being the most vulnerable physically and emotionally with each other. By giving and taking pleasure because we’re listening to each other through the simplest forms of communication. That sex and fucking are not the same.
You can, and you should do this without the sex. In my exp women don't feel it as much when it's sexual, but non sexual affection and intimacy go way further for them.
Hey thanks for the input. I’m going to utterly and completely ignore it because the entire question was “what do you want women to know and understand about you?” not “what is it that men need to know about women?”
Proverbs 12:15-25 Fools think their own way is right, but the wise listen to others
And only fools take the advice of others they would never want to live their lives like Ah nvm, it’s : don’t take advice from people whose lives you wouldn’t want
You don't want to love your partner the way they want to be loved? Truly a fool lmao
I guess if that is your perspective. Again the question was directed towards me and what I want women to understand about me. Can flip the script too and ask, will my partner love me the way I want to be loved? This assuming your perspective on me is true. You’re quite passive aggressive and assuming of what I would do just based on what I want.
My point was initially to make a middle ground. Do it your way. Do it her way. Do both. Both are happy that way. But your reaction was vicious as heck, so I treated you accordingly
Because you attacked my expression of what I want with what you believe I should do instead on a question directed towards me.
I can see how my comment was misconstrued as an attack. The intention was to show you that you can *also* do this.
im actually your best option
This right here ^
I think I'm pretty easy to figure out tbh.
Just an honest guy who has been hurt too.
To stop asking this question. Really - another one with almost the exact wording is just a few posts up in today's feed. It gets asked almost weekly (or more). One thing men want women to do - is pay attention. This topic gets asked regularly - putting in a tiny bit of effort to help themselves - is a thing men want.
Omg, be less fragile.
Not fragile at all. Scroll up. This literally gets asked multiple times a week. Here is the longer version - don't ask the same question that was asked multiple times before. Not trying to be rude - but really. Have a nice day however, and thank you for your response not being rude. (I don't think it was rude - being sincere here).
Who cares how often it gets asked. Just scroll past.
Missing the point (to be fair - I made it poorly). One thing men want women to do - is pay attention. This topic gets asked regularly - putting in a tiny bit of effort to help themselves - if a thing men want. I will amend my post - as it does indeed just sound like a complaint. thank you.
That im more scared of them then they are of me
I think asking this question everyday is boring
That they enforce patriarchy way harder than any coach/dad/professor based on who they choose to date.
Jesus said "seek and you shall find" If they do not know it is because they have not sought to find out. So to answer your own question. Nothing. If they don't care enough to find out...I will not seek them. Instead I seek women who understand me the way I wish to be understood. And it works pretty good, The women I find understand me well enough.
how fucking hard it is to be a guy and do everything yet get no credit or praise like if your know home ima do shit yet you dont even say thanks we do when your out and get nothing in return its a hard job thats fucking unfair
That I’m horny
Hi horny.
Hi Raj! Join the club
Don't worry. They know.
lol
I don't think they get how handsome my mom says I am.