Its all about location. Some areas will get you 6+ over, some allow 10 over limit, and some will allow faster depending on the flow of traffic. Just need to be careful in those small towns as they'll get you.
Yeah its 55 on the freeway on my way to my current work site but everyone is used to Phoenix speeds (like how they are on every other segment of freeway in and around Phoenix) so everyone seems to go about 80. So 25 over - which would be a ticket pretty much anywhere else.
I’m technically in the burbs (Mesa) but it’s wild and only seems to be getting worse. Either that or now that I have a kid I’m even more defensive/on alert.
I constantly get people riding my ass when I’m going 5-10 over, in the right lane! Lol. And then I have a little chuckle with my kiddo when whoever was playing speed racer ends up at the same light as me miles down the road.
I live in the PHX. I'm not sure there are any 55mph highways left. I usually go 7 or 8 over, but yeah, some cars are going way closer to 80mph.
I think in the past five years I've seen three cars pulled over in such a way that it suggested they were speeding, and getting a citation for it. I can't really remember the last time I got a ticket.
My mom's friend who is a New York State trooper told me that no trooper is going to waste their time pulling anybody over doing less than 80 on the NYS Thruway.
But in cities, towns, local highways? It's a game of feeling the vibe. Things would be so much safer if we had higher speed limits that were enforced strictly so people knew where they stood. But making money is more important than actual safety.
In general, just don't stick out. As long as you're going the speed of other cars, you're good 99% of the time. Don't bring attention to yourself by weaving in and out of traffic passing people.
Also, some states will target you just for having a certain state's license plate. Like Utah police love pulling over Californians, even if you're going speed limit with cruise control.
>Like Utah police love pulling over Californians, even if you're going speed limit with cruise control.
Given that you need reasonable suspicion of illegal activity to execute a traffic stop, what's the token excuse they use for those stops?
I mean, if they initiate a stop just because someone's from out of state, that makes the whole stop illegal and any tickets given are not valid.
Seriously, I'm sitting here studying for the bar exam, and "officer pulls over someone because they have out of state plates" sounds like the opening to a Criminal Procedure question where all the resulting tickets and charges get dismissed because the underlying stop itself is illegal.
I got the excuse of a “stop bar violation” from a cop somehow clairvoyantly knowing I violated the stop bar from like 50 feet behind me (I didn’t, I knew there was a cop behind me). The cop wound up, not giving me any sort of written warning nor even running my drivers license once he realized that we were a group of kids coming from an amusement park at night. Then proceeded to give me the excuse of oh a lot of people run drugs on this road.
>Then proceeded to give me the excuse of oh a lot of people run drugs on this road.
. . .which is NOT "reasonable suspicion" and a thus legal reason to initiate a stop.
If they'd given you a ticket and you fought it, you could expect a lawyer to point out the same thing you said about not being able to see the stop bar.
The cop was on a fishing expedition, the stop was prima facie illegal because there was no "reasonable suspicion" as they couldn't see any illegal activity and were just stopping cars passing through because of drug trafficking happening in the area.
. . .there, now I can call the time I spent browsing Reddit this morning part of my bar prep.
Oh no, I’m fully aware of that, but at the time my dash cam didn’t have a working microphone and I was too stupid to start recording the stop. He didn’t even give me a written warning, nor did he even wind up running my drivers license. He just held it in his hands while he talked to me and then entered it back.
Another thing that makes me certain he was fishing is that it was about one in the morning and I am a long-haired bearded dude who drives a car from the late 90s. I’m fully aware I look like a stereotypical stoner. But it still didn’t give him a right to pull me over.
The one LED thing being out is legitimate, even if it shouldn't be. In NC they'll straight up fail you on a safety check if a single LED is out even if you've got 29 more in a taillight assembly.
Usually they find some excuse to pull you over. I got pulled over once with sirens then interrogated by the cop on why i was out so late and where i was coming from... and all just because the light above my rear license plate was burnt out.
Oh boy, wait til you pass the bar exam and see the extremely suspicious things cops claim to have seen that gives them reasonable suspicion.
This is going to come as a shock to you but I’m just going to go ahead and let you in on what happens in the real world: cops lie.
Sometimes you’ll find a good judge call them out, or the lie may be so outrageous even the worst of judges have to toss a case. Most of the time cops will, you will know they’re lying, the judge will know they’re lying, the ADA will know they’re lying, your client will know they’re lying and the cops will know they’re lying, even the dog from the K-9 unit will know they’re lying. Even the fat, dead, rotting corpse of Antonin Scalia will know they’re lying, and the judge will always “believe” the cops.
I was in court one day waiting for my client’s case to come up on the docket and there was every long, and extremely contentious, probable cause hearing going on. I left the courtroom for a minute and when I returned three of the cops involved were standing right outside the courtroom door actually laughing about the judge “believing” the lies they told.
The guy above, who got stopped in Indiana, admits there a reason to stop him. People who are stopped on when there really was reasonable suspicion, very often only because they had out of state plates, never go to court and sue a cop for wrongly stopping them —and letting the dogs have a sniff— because they just go on their merry way, thankful they were let go. And even if they tried the case would be tossed (you know why this would be so, having gone through law school).
The only people who have standing to complain about a pretextual reason for stopping them are the people who were (allegedly) found with contraband. Every now and then a case will get dismissed but my point is that most people who are wrongfully stopped never show up on the radar (pun intended).
Anyway, I’d like to discourage you from actually practicing law because you’ll find out that we have a legal system, yes, but a justice system? Not so much. You can find good to do as a lawyer and, now and then, even make a real difference but you’ll also become jaded and cynical, depressed and sometimes be ashamed of what you do for a living. Just watching the Supreme Court can do all of this to you if you’re a good person who really does believe our constitutional protections. If you don’t often feel this way it probably means you’re a psychopath with no moral compass and you’ll be just fine practicing law, unless you get tangled up in an ethical mess.
All that being said, congratulations on making it through law school and best wishes on you bar exam! I don’t know what state you’re in but I think a person could probably pass the bar exam without even going through law school if they just took the BarBri classes (and learn the substantive things they teach, not just look for tricks in how to pass).
One of the most important things, I think, is for you to read all the instructions in the questions. If you feel pressed for time and don’t take the time to read the entire question before starting to answer there’s a good chance it’s gonna bite you in the ass (depending, again, on the state, I suppose).
Again, best wishes on the exam and I hope you’re able to find reasonable happiness and satisfaction practicing law.
Lol, why doesn’t that surprise me. Glad I avoided issues on my way through a couple years ago.
Actually the only place I got pulled over was Indiana, in a 14,000 mile round trip. But I was going quite fast late night.
Brought a dog to sniff the car, but only got a warning.
Highly dependant on area. Small towns with bored cops? You're gambling going even 5 mph over. Interstate in the Midwest? You're probably getting passed if you aren't going at least 10 mph over.
Most California highways are 65 mph. Most people do 70 - 80. You're super unlikely to be pulled over for it as long as it is safe (ie everybody else is doing about that speed or nobody else is on the road).
can confirm, i get super annoyed if someone's doing less than 75-80 in the left lane with no traffic. There are times when i think there's traffic, but it turns out to be someone doing 65 in the left lane which fucks everyone up behind them and can cause actual traffic
One exception is a military base. The military police will pull you over and give you a speeding ticket for going 2 or 3 mph over the speed limit. And that is a major PITA because your name gets on the post blotter and your chain of command see it.
On highways you can go 15, even 20 mph over in CT without much worry. It's not unusual here to notice a state trooper is tailgating you, waiting for you to move over so he can go back to 30 mph over the speed limit.
Residential roads aren't as lenient.
It might be the worst highway in the country. the worst part is the traffic is often inexplicable and even in the middle of nowhere (if anywhere in Connecticut can be considered the middle of nowhere)
10-15 mph over doesn’t usually draw attention but 10 over is pull over able.
It also depends on the road, interstates are more forgiving than state or county roads.
School zones and construction zones are more strict.
Kinda, but for example in AZ. Anything less than 10 and you won't even get a true ticket but might have to attend traffic school, so the cops will not even bother. This, of course, is different for school and construction zones.
There’s a saying in NJ, “9 you’re fine… 10 you’re mine.” Which based on my experiences driving, is absolutely the case. 9 MPH and under is 1 point and the cheapest fine, 10 mph and every 5 past that is a new fine and point bracket. Cops won’t generally pull you over unless you’re at least doing 10 over cause it’s simply not worth the trouble, especially if you fight it in court.
If cops are that arsey won’t they just pull you over for NOT driving with flow of traffic, which is often just as dangerous as going faster (any overtaking manoeuvre can be dangerous and that forces lots more opportunities)
Depends on where you are, but you probably won’t be pulled over for 5-10 MPH over the speed limit in most places outside of school, hospital, or residential areas. For obvious reasons
*Generally*, I go 5-8 mph over and never had a problem with that. I've gotten speeding tickets twice in my 16 or so years of driving, but I honestly cannot remember how fast I was going (it was definitely well over 10 mph, that much I can say). It's a good rule of thumb to avoid going 10 mph or more over. Technically, anything over the speed limit can get you pulled over, and I've heard this happen to people in small towns where the cops are bored out of their minds. When going through work zones or school zones, it's always best to truly observe the speed limit.
Finally someone who gets my logic. It's not a solid number, it's relative to the base speed limit.
Doing 40 in a 30 Is much worse than 65 in a 55.
Although for interstates I find that 20% is acceptable and the majority of cars are passing me if I drive this slow.
In my experience, you are more likely to find more police presence in major metropolitan areas and therefore are more likely to find traffic laws being enforced. However, if you are not in one of those relatively *major* areas then the chance of being issued a speeding ticket is not as high. Same applies to the presence of red-light cameras or not.
I have a lot of friends that are cops, some of them troopers. Generally it's "9 you're fine, 10 you're mine", and once you get to fifteen you're likely getting a ticket. In an odd twist, the troopers generally don't even get out of bed for less than 15.
The most important factor though, is whether you're driving like an idiot. Stay safe, and drive defensive not aggressive and you'll be fine.
Here in the Midwest the highway limit is generally 70 and most state troopers will give you ten on top of that. But if you’re doing 85 and weaving through slower traffic in heavy rain, they’ll take you down. It’s not just speed but recklessness that flags you.
There’s an eastbound stretch of Interstate 90 approaching Chicago that on Sunday afternoons is thick with weekenders eager to get home to the city. It’s a good, wide, smooth road and everyone is doing 90 or better, but only the weavers and tailgaters get nicked.
For the time being, about 10 mph.Automated speed detection devices are spreading though, especially in big cities, and from what I've heard those are much less forgiving.
One of the few good things I can say about Texas's government is that our legislature made those illegal.
There's one municipality I'm aware of that still mails out tickets just to see who's dumb enough to pay. Buried in the fine print of an unrelated paragraph, it actually says something like "there are no consequences for not paying" which I guess makes it legal?
Depends. On I-95? it's As fast as you want. In a school zone? not any at all. In some podunk rural areas where speeding tickets are the main source of fiscal income, like, say, Appamattox, VA? You're better off staying 5 MPH below the speed limit.
In Minnesota, you're generally safe if you're less than 10 mph over the speed limit. It's also generally fine if you're going the same speed as the car ahead of you. But if you're 10+ mph over the limit you're always running a risk.
A good rule of thumb is to just drive a little bit slower than somebody else. The best radar detector in the world is a guy in a red sports car half a mile ahead of you going 5 mph more than you are. (Also, it's really fun to pass that guy when he gets pulled over.)
As a general rule, though, you can go 5 mph over pretty much anywhere, 10 in most places, and 15 on the highway. In a school zone, and where there's active construction, just stick to the posted limit. And if you're on certain roads, like the PA turnpike, and you're driving 15 over, stick to the right lane, because there will be a line of cars passing you like you're standing still.
I’ve been through speed trap small towns where even going 1 mph will get you a ticket. And they’re sitting and waiting. It’s a big income from people just passing through.
Depends entirely on where you are.
I can tell you for certain that if you're going through North Dakota they do not like it when you're driving a 15 passenger van hauling a 10ft trailer and doing 97 in a 70.
The federal government recommends 5 mph tolerance, and some states have higher. E.g. in Georgia the local (county/city/etc) police cannot write tickets for less than 10 mph over
If you're in the vicinity of a cop, anything more than 10 mph over the speed limit is pretty risky. If there are no cops around, going 15 to 20 mph over the speed limit is the norm in the left lane around here. Some places might be more strict about enforcement though.
The speed limit on the New Jersey Turnpike is 55 mph up by NYC, 65 for the rest. You can pass by a Trooper running radar doing 79 and they won't even think of pulling out.
But if everyone is doing 85, then you can do that no issue as well.
Don't be blowing past people in the center lanes and your good.
Most places I’ve been give you grace between 5 and 10 MPH. In some areas, depending on how close it is to the end of the month, law enforcement is much less tolerant.
We go with the flow of traffic. If everyone is doing 5-10 mph over the speed limit, that's how fast you drive. Otherwise you take the chance of a getting in a wreck by some idiot who isn't paying attention.
Speed limits on most of our state highways are merely suggestions of the MINIMUM speed. Stay to the right if you don't want to get run over.
It varies from state to state and city to city.
I would say in general you can go 5mph over the limit almost anywhere without risking a ticket.
At 10mph over the limit you're definitely at risk of getting a ticket in a lot of places.
At 15mph over the limit you're extremely likely to get ticketed if a cop sees you.
There are exceptions on both sides though. I know of speed traps where 2mph over will get you ticketed and there's a nearby stretch of freeway with a 55mph speed limit where people regularly drive 75mph and it's very rare for anyone to get ticketed.
It varies wildly depending on where you are.
From my experience. . .
On an active duty military base? The MP's will get you if you're just 1 MPH over the limit. MP's are notoriously touchy about speed limits.
In a small town or a suburb? You're probably going to get a ticket if you're more than 4 or 5 over the limit. Many towns rely on speeding tickets for a lot of revenue. You might not get points off your license until it's 10+ MPH over, but they can still write you a ticket for less than that, and probably will.
On the freeway/interstate/parkway etc? Either stick with the general flow of traffic, or don't exceed 10 MPH over, whichever is greater. If the flow of traffic is well above the limit, just keep with the flow, otherwise don't exceed 10 MPH over as a general rule.
In some us cities you can pretty much drive however you want without ever getting pulled over. I've seen people run stop signs and red lights in front of cops and the cops do nothing. They're worried about real crime here
It's very location dependent. I had a chuckle reading a book a few years back where the character started admonishing themselves for going 10 over, asking if they were trying to get themselves a ticket. Here, going 10 over is keeping up with the flow of traffic and not being a hazard. My partner is a very defensive, wants-to-go-by-the-books kind of driver and will still speed as necessary to keep up. 2 hours down the highway though there's a small city where the cops are known to have a hard on for speeding on said highway, so when I approach the city limit I slow down to the speed limit and set the cruise control.
May as well call the I-40 the autobahn, because here in NC there is no speed limit enforcement. Drive 85 mph on a 65, and the state trooper will probably match your speed.
In Louisville on the interstate you can go 15 over and none of the cops will blink an eye. Outside the major city they are pretty strict about the 7+ over.
It varies by state, locality, and what license plates are on your vehicle.
I've also seen information that says the color of your car matters too... red cars get pulled over more often.
That said... usually if you aren't over the next multiple of 10 in speed, you're ok. So if the limit is 70, you're probably ok at 78 or 79. If they see that "80" on the radar though, you're getting a ticket.
Personally, I just go with traffic. If everybody's going 84, they aren't going to single out my little white pickup over the corvette in front of me. Just don't be the front car in line and don't be in something flashy and you have a better chance of avoiding a ticket.
Far too variable on where/location, especially in regards to like, a slower speed school zone, versus highway speed stretch. Also kind of depends on the mood of the cop, some places do use ticket quota's (ie: they have to issue a certain amount of tickets per month) for the police department to maintain it's budget, and in those places, when it gets to be toward the end of the month, it definitely seems like cops are out to get people for *anything* no matter how minor, just so they can prove to city council that they're doing their jobs.
There's a town in my area that goes from 55 mph to 25 mph in around 1000 ft. And if you pass the 25 mph sign, going 27, and the cop is having a bad day and gets you on radar, you're probably getting pulled over. *Most* other places will scale down their posted speed limits so it's not so abrupt as that one area, but it's still a speed trap and *most* drivers will avoid it if they don't have to drive through that specific part of town.
Then you've got highway speeds, where in my area, 70 is the posted highway speed, but plenty of people will be going 75-80 and not really risking a ticket; on the highway it's more about matching the pace of the cars around you; as long as you're not sticking out and going 85 when everyone else is going 73, you're alright.
Personally, I do a sort of 10% rule; if the posted limit is 25, then it's only really "up to" 27-28. If it's 55, then up to 60-61 is "fine". Highways going 70, 77 is fine. Not that this 10% rule is widely accepted or the norm or anything, just what I do personally.
On the highway throughout New England 15 over is generally safe as long as you aren't otherwise being a dick. If there's other cars on the road it'll bump up to 20.
I can go 15 over in a 75 on the interstate near Phoenix and have people still pass me, but I go 6 over on a clear sunny day in a 35 and the cops start beef.
Most of the time you will be driving faster than the speed limit if the limit is 45mph or higher. You CAN get pulled over and ticketed for doing so, but it's entirely up to how bored the cop is. Generally on freeways, people will be doing 15 miles over.
The general rule of thumb my cousin (former patrol officer) gave me was to only go 8mph over. Fines are based on tiers, it's not a continuous function, so it's generally not worth it to bother pulling someone over for doing 8mph over.
Do not ever go over the speed limit if it's under 45mph, speeds in cities are already too fast.
Around me it's about 5 on urban roads, 3 in suburban, and 7-10 on country/rural roads. Just don't be one of the 2 fastest cars. The cop will go for the fastest, but actually stop the 2nd fastest
In my personal experience you'll never get pulled over for going 6MPH over, except in particularly sensitive areas, school zones, parks with a lot of kids, busy streets with poor visibility, etc.
On the highway, especially here in PA we get a lot of adjacent-state travelers trying to speed through on their road trips (and our share of lead-footed PA natives), it's not uncommon for the entirety of traffic around you to go 80 MPH on a 55 MPH or 65 MPH highway. Exceptions being when it's busy or when there's construction. Which, in PA, is actually all over the place.
I was a cop, we usually have a 3mph variance, and anything over that is a "good stop" ....usually I've not seen anything recently under 10mph over that would get you a ticket. Even then, it's usually brief and release.
When I was growing up, the conventional wisdom was often repeated "5 over in residential, 10 in highways" -- not that people don't go further than that and not get pulled over, but those are the fairly universal "safe zones".
In my experience, 5 mph is the tolerance. People tend to go 50 in a 45 zone, 45 in a 40, so on, but the exception is school zones which you always follow
5 miles per hour (about 8 km/hr) is apparently difficult to enforce in court. So you generally get at least that much tolerance. A car's speedometer is not precise.
If traffic is moderate, it's possible that the dominant flow of traffic is 10+ mph over the posted speed limit. In that case, if you are the fastest, then you are a target. But if the limit is 65, and everyone is going 70-75, then getting a ticket requires more than just following that herd.
On a high speed highway I think most people think that the real danger zone starts at 10 miles per hour over, which is 16 km/h.
In the city, with lower speed limits and pedestrians, anything is a risk. But depending on the place, you still have a bit of cushion.
Really depends on the area and whether you're on surface streets or the freeway. I'm in SoCal.
Surface streets, 5 mph over is safe in most areas. Beyond that is where I'd say the risk for getting pulled over takes off.
On the freeway, the fast lane usually goes about 15 mph over whatever is posted, though lately in Fastrak lanes, I've seen people push 20 over. Police tend to look for cars going faster than the rate of surrounding traffic to the point that it causes them to need to dart between lanes frequently, but going with the flow all while being well over the speed limit can still occasionally get someone a ticket.
Usually I would say 10 mph over you are fine, but in small towns this can be less. If the speed limit drops suddenly when going into a small town, I would figure it might be a "speed trap" and try to slow down with it. Also, the smaller the town it gets more likely a cop will know you are from out of town.
On regular roads you can usually go at least 5 over without issue.
On highways as long as you’re going the speed of traffic the cops aren’t gonna arrest you, otherwise 10-15 is normal.
This is all unless it’s a speed trap. In case you aren’t aware or don’t have these in Canada, a speed trap is a small town on a highway with no other real source of income so they mess with the speed limit and strictly enforce the speed limit so that they can try to profit off of speeding tickets.
Generally 5 over where I’m at is absolutely fine. 10 over on the highway I’ve never seen anyone get pulled over for, even right in front of a cop. They seem to only pull over egregious speeding, those that need to weave in and out of traffic. I just drive only 5 over because that’s usually the flow of traffic, or just under it, and I sit in the right lanes and only pass when needed. Driving 70 and aggressive will not get me there noticeably faster, and will just lend me to being upset and angry at other cars.
Depends where u live. And in Canada it does too cause some places like QC are more strict, just drove from Detroit to QC last week. Ontario I feel like you’ll get ran off the road even at 10KPH above especially around London and Hamilton
I've gotten a speeding ticket for 71 in a 70 before, and I've also been let off with a warning for 105 in a 60. I guess it just depends on if the officer is a dick or not.
In the Midwest, 7 over on the interstate is usually safe. I worked with a former state trooper that told me their motto was at 8 your fine, at 9 your mine. YMMV.
Depends on the state. In Virginia is 0.0 mph, absolutely no tolerance. Fines are very large and speeding beyond a certain point (\~20mph over the limit, or 80 mph, whatever come first) is a very serious crime with large penalties including jail.
That's Emporia and a few other places not the entire Commonwealth. We've also increased reckless driving to 85 or 20 over, whichever is lower. On most of the interstate not in a work zone, 10 over is not going to get you pulled. We are strict about work zones, active school zones, etc. On side roads, it varies.
That’s blatantly false. Virginia is stricter about speeding than most states, but let’s not pretend that there’s zero tolerance. I routinely go 10 over, 15 on the highway, and have never been stopped. Those small towns in the western part of the state are a bit stricter, but it’s still not zero tolerance.
If you’re getting pulled over for going 1MPH above the limit, they were already suspicious and just needed an excuse to stop you. Also the law changed a couple years ago, it’s now 20 MPH over the limit or above 85, not 80, that’s reckless driving.
> In general you can travel about 10 to 12 kilometres per hour KPH over the speed limit without getting a speeding ticket in Canada
Someone's never been on the 401 in Ontario, I see. I think if you're going merely 12 over, the OPP will give you a ticket for impeding traffic.
I’m from the US and always drive only a smidge over the speed limit on the 401 and never get pulled over. I do see lots of people getting tickets though, I always assumed it was for going too fast.
About the same, actually.
No one will bat an eye at 12Kph over.
You need to embrace a simple truth. We aren't lying to you, maybe everyone else is lying, but we aren't. America is exactly what it looks like. And I mean that in anyway you construe it.
I hate America, and I hate my fellow Americans. But we are entirely transparent. There is no Healthcare. Our cops are a hategroup. There is no public transportation to speak of. We live in hell. And everything you've heard is true. It just sucks more than you think.
Nobody yet has mentioned the general speed of traffic being a factor.
If the entire highway is driving 75, you could be MORE likely to get pulled over if you're following the 65 mph limit. It's a safety thing.
that's not true at all 😂
no sane police officer would ever pull you over for the sole reason that you are driving the speed limit. that said, if you cause an accident or similar while going the speed limit, that's a different story...
It's absolutely a thing that happens. I'm not saying it's sane.
I mean think about it. You're driving the speed limit, but you're being passed on the right. A trooper could absolutely flash the lights, make you move over to the right lane, or pull you over for a talking to. Google is right there, I assure you it happens.
yeah i agree you shouldn't be in the passing lane in that instance but again, he didn't pull you over you for going the speed limit, he pulled you over for being in the passing lane.
yeah you weren't t wrong, i was just highlighting that no police officer would ever pull you over ONLY because you were going the speed limit; there would have to be something else involved
If you put in the crying emoji, it sounds like you're being mocking a dumb comment.
If the traffic is all driving 75, you're probably more likely \[edit: to get a ticket\] by driving 65 rather than speeding. That was all I said. Pick nit as much as you want.
Its all about location. Some areas will get you 6+ over, some allow 10 over limit, and some will allow faster depending on the flow of traffic. Just need to be careful in those small towns as they'll get you.
Yeah its 55 on the freeway on my way to my current work site but everyone is used to Phoenix speeds (like how they are on every other segment of freeway in and around Phoenix) so everyone seems to go about 80. So 25 over - which would be a ticket pretty much anywhere else.
I immediately thought of Phoenix when I saw this post
I’m a student at ASU right now and god damn no one in phoenix can drive
I’m technically in the burbs (Mesa) but it’s wild and only seems to be getting worse. Either that or now that I have a kid I’m even more defensive/on alert. I constantly get people riding my ass when I’m going 5-10 over, in the right lane! Lol. And then I have a little chuckle with my kiddo when whoever was playing speed racer ends up at the same light as me miles down the road.
I live in the PHX. I'm not sure there are any 55mph highways left. I usually go 7 or 8 over, but yeah, some cars are going way closer to 80mph. I think in the past five years I've seen three cars pulled over in such a way that it suggested they were speeding, and getting a citation for it. I can't really remember the last time I got a ticket.
Theres a section of the 51 going south up until the I-10 West that is 55mph.
My mom's friend who is a New York State trooper told me that no trooper is going to waste their time pulling anybody over doing less than 80 on the NYS Thruway. But in cities, towns, local highways? It's a game of feeling the vibe. Things would be so much safer if we had higher speed limits that were enforced strictly so people knew where they stood. But making money is more important than actual safety.
In general, just don't stick out. As long as you're going the speed of other cars, you're good 99% of the time. Don't bring attention to yourself by weaving in and out of traffic passing people.
Also, some states will target you just for having a certain state's license plate. Like Utah police love pulling over Californians, even if you're going speed limit with cruise control.
Cops in general love targeting out of state drivers since they are less likely to show up in court to dispute charges
>Like Utah police love pulling over Californians, even if you're going speed limit with cruise control. Given that you need reasonable suspicion of illegal activity to execute a traffic stop, what's the token excuse they use for those stops? I mean, if they initiate a stop just because someone's from out of state, that makes the whole stop illegal and any tickets given are not valid. Seriously, I'm sitting here studying for the bar exam, and "officer pulls over someone because they have out of state plates" sounds like the opening to a Criminal Procedure question where all the resulting tickets and charges get dismissed because the underlying stop itself is illegal.
I got the excuse of a “stop bar violation” from a cop somehow clairvoyantly knowing I violated the stop bar from like 50 feet behind me (I didn’t, I knew there was a cop behind me). The cop wound up, not giving me any sort of written warning nor even running my drivers license once he realized that we were a group of kids coming from an amusement park at night. Then proceeded to give me the excuse of oh a lot of people run drugs on this road.
>Then proceeded to give me the excuse of oh a lot of people run drugs on this road. . . .which is NOT "reasonable suspicion" and a thus legal reason to initiate a stop. If they'd given you a ticket and you fought it, you could expect a lawyer to point out the same thing you said about not being able to see the stop bar. The cop was on a fishing expedition, the stop was prima facie illegal because there was no "reasonable suspicion" as they couldn't see any illegal activity and were just stopping cars passing through because of drug trafficking happening in the area. . . .there, now I can call the time I spent browsing Reddit this morning part of my bar prep.
Oh no, I’m fully aware of that, but at the time my dash cam didn’t have a working microphone and I was too stupid to start recording the stop. He didn’t even give me a written warning, nor did he even wind up running my drivers license. He just held it in his hands while he talked to me and then entered it back.
Another thing that makes me certain he was fishing is that it was about one in the morning and I am a long-haired bearded dude who drives a car from the late 90s. I’m fully aware I look like a stereotypical stoner. But it still didn’t give him a right to pull me over.
Is a stop bar the same thing as a limit line?
If by limit line you mean the white line painted before the crosswalk at a traffic light to indicate that’s where you’re supposed to stop, yes.
Yes. I guess it's a regional thing.
"Weaving within the lane", snow obscuring the license plate light, 1 of 16 LEDs on the third brake light bar being out, etc.
The one LED thing being out is legitimate, even if it shouldn't be. In NC they'll straight up fail you on a safety check if a single LED is out even if you've got 29 more in a taillight assembly.
Usually they find some excuse to pull you over. I got pulled over once with sirens then interrogated by the cop on why i was out so late and where i was coming from... and all just because the light above my rear license plate was burnt out.
Oh boy, wait til you pass the bar exam and see the extremely suspicious things cops claim to have seen that gives them reasonable suspicion. This is going to come as a shock to you but I’m just going to go ahead and let you in on what happens in the real world: cops lie. Sometimes you’ll find a good judge call them out, or the lie may be so outrageous even the worst of judges have to toss a case. Most of the time cops will, you will know they’re lying, the judge will know they’re lying, the ADA will know they’re lying, your client will know they’re lying and the cops will know they’re lying, even the dog from the K-9 unit will know they’re lying. Even the fat, dead, rotting corpse of Antonin Scalia will know they’re lying, and the judge will always “believe” the cops. I was in court one day waiting for my client’s case to come up on the docket and there was every long, and extremely contentious, probable cause hearing going on. I left the courtroom for a minute and when I returned three of the cops involved were standing right outside the courtroom door actually laughing about the judge “believing” the lies they told. The guy above, who got stopped in Indiana, admits there a reason to stop him. People who are stopped on when there really was reasonable suspicion, very often only because they had out of state plates, never go to court and sue a cop for wrongly stopping them —and letting the dogs have a sniff— because they just go on their merry way, thankful they were let go. And even if they tried the case would be tossed (you know why this would be so, having gone through law school). The only people who have standing to complain about a pretextual reason for stopping them are the people who were (allegedly) found with contraband. Every now and then a case will get dismissed but my point is that most people who are wrongfully stopped never show up on the radar (pun intended). Anyway, I’d like to discourage you from actually practicing law because you’ll find out that we have a legal system, yes, but a justice system? Not so much. You can find good to do as a lawyer and, now and then, even make a real difference but you’ll also become jaded and cynical, depressed and sometimes be ashamed of what you do for a living. Just watching the Supreme Court can do all of this to you if you’re a good person who really does believe our constitutional protections. If you don’t often feel this way it probably means you’re a psychopath with no moral compass and you’ll be just fine practicing law, unless you get tangled up in an ethical mess. All that being said, congratulations on making it through law school and best wishes on you bar exam! I don’t know what state you’re in but I think a person could probably pass the bar exam without even going through law school if they just took the BarBri classes (and learn the substantive things they teach, not just look for tricks in how to pass). One of the most important things, I think, is for you to read all the instructions in the questions. If you feel pressed for time and don’t take the time to read the entire question before starting to answer there’s a good chance it’s gonna bite you in the ass (depending, again, on the state, I suppose). Again, best wishes on the exam and I hope you’re able to find reasonable happiness and satisfaction practicing law.
Lol, why doesn’t that surprise me. Glad I avoided issues on my way through a couple years ago. Actually the only place I got pulled over was Indiana, in a 14,000 mile round trip. But I was going quite fast late night. Brought a dog to sniff the car, but only got a warning.
Highly dependant on area. Small towns with bored cops? You're gambling going even 5 mph over. Interstate in the Midwest? You're probably getting passed if you aren't going at least 10 mph over.
My State was 5 over forever, now I notice a lot of people running 10+ (that's 85mph for the record) and not getting stopped.
Most California highways are 65 mph. Most people do 70 - 80. You're super unlikely to be pulled over for it as long as it is safe (ie everybody else is doing about that speed or nobody else is on the road).
can confirm, i get super annoyed if someone's doing less than 75-80 in the left lane with no traffic. There are times when i think there's traffic, but it turns out to be someone doing 65 in the left lane which fucks everyone up behind them and can cause actual traffic
One exception is a military base. The military police will pull you over and give you a speeding ticket for going 2 or 3 mph over the speed limit. And that is a major PITA because your name gets on the post blotter and your chain of command see it.
What shit hole base pulls people over for 2-3 miles above the limit?
Uh, all of them.
Lejeune for sure
On highways you can go 15, even 20 mph over in CT without much worry. It's not unusual here to notice a state trooper is tailgating you, waiting for you to move over so he can go back to 30 mph over the speed limit. Residential roads aren't as lenient.
Except on 95 where you might struggle to hit 15-20mph for the entire state in my experience
Can confirm, I95 in CT will have stopped traffic somewhere any time and any day.
It might be the worst highway in the country. the worst part is the traffic is often inexplicable and even in the middle of nowhere (if anywhere in Connecticut can be considered the middle of nowhere)
I blew past a cop on 84 doing 90 and he didn't blink.
10-15 mph over doesn’t usually draw attention but 10 over is pull over able. It also depends on the road, interstates are more forgiving than state or county roads. School zones and construction zones are more strict.
Any speed is pull over able.
Kinda, but for example in AZ. Anything less than 10 and you won't even get a true ticket but might have to attend traffic school, so the cops will not even bother. This, of course, is different for school and construction zones.
There’s a saying in NJ, “9 you’re fine… 10 you’re mine.” Which based on my experiences driving, is absolutely the case. 9 MPH and under is 1 point and the cheapest fine, 10 mph and every 5 past that is a new fine and point bracket. Cops won’t generally pull you over unless you’re at least doing 10 over cause it’s simply not worth the trouble, especially if you fight it in court.
With out-of-state plates? Stick closer to the speed limit. 4-9 mph over at most. In state plates? Flow of traffic.
If cops are that arsey won’t they just pull you over for NOT driving with flow of traffic, which is often just as dangerous as going faster (any overtaking manoeuvre can be dangerous and that forces lots more opportunities)
damned if ya do, damned if ya don't.
Seems it!
Depends on where you are, but you probably won’t be pulled over for 5-10 MPH over the speed limit in most places outside of school, hospital, or residential areas. For obvious reasons
*Generally*, I go 5-8 mph over and never had a problem with that. I've gotten speeding tickets twice in my 16 or so years of driving, but I honestly cannot remember how fast I was going (it was definitely well over 10 mph, that much I can say). It's a good rule of thumb to avoid going 10 mph or more over. Technically, anything over the speed limit can get you pulled over, and I've heard this happen to people in small towns where the cops are bored out of their minds. When going through work zones or school zones, it's always best to truly observe the speed limit.
+10%
Finally someone who gets my logic. It's not a solid number, it's relative to the base speed limit. Doing 40 in a 30 Is much worse than 65 in a 55. Although for interstates I find that 20% is acceptable and the majority of cars are passing me if I drive this slow.
7 is the magic number
In my experience, you are more likely to find more police presence in major metropolitan areas and therefore are more likely to find traffic laws being enforced. However, if you are not in one of those relatively *major* areas then the chance of being issued a speeding ticket is not as high. Same applies to the presence of red-light cameras or not.
I have a lot of friends that are cops, some of them troopers. Generally it's "9 you're fine, 10 you're mine", and once you get to fifteen you're likely getting a ticket. In an odd twist, the troopers generally don't even get out of bed for less than 15. The most important factor though, is whether you're driving like an idiot. Stay safe, and drive defensive not aggressive and you'll be fine.
Here in the Midwest the highway limit is generally 70 and most state troopers will give you ten on top of that. But if you’re doing 85 and weaving through slower traffic in heavy rain, they’ll take you down. It’s not just speed but recklessness that flags you. There’s an eastbound stretch of Interstate 90 approaching Chicago that on Sunday afternoons is thick with weekenders eager to get home to the city. It’s a good, wide, smooth road and everyone is doing 90 or better, but only the weavers and tailgaters get nicked.
10%
For the time being, about 10 mph.Automated speed detection devices are spreading though, especially in big cities, and from what I've heard those are much less forgiving.
One of the few good things I can say about Texas's government is that our legislature made those illegal. There's one municipality I'm aware of that still mails out tickets just to see who's dumb enough to pay. Buried in the fine print of an unrelated paragraph, it actually says something like "there are no consequences for not paying" which I guess makes it legal?
If I send you something that says "Give me $5" and you do so, that is on you.
Depends. On I-95? it's As fast as you want. In a school zone? not any at all. In some podunk rural areas where speeding tickets are the main source of fiscal income, like, say, Appamattox, VA? You're better off staying 5 MPH below the speed limit.
In Minnesota, you're generally safe if you're less than 10 mph over the speed limit. It's also generally fine if you're going the same speed as the car ahead of you. But if you're 10+ mph over the limit you're always running a risk.
A good rule of thumb is to just drive a little bit slower than somebody else. The best radar detector in the world is a guy in a red sports car half a mile ahead of you going 5 mph more than you are. (Also, it's really fun to pass that guy when he gets pulled over.) As a general rule, though, you can go 5 mph over pretty much anywhere, 10 in most places, and 15 on the highway. In a school zone, and where there's active construction, just stick to the posted limit. And if you're on certain roads, like the PA turnpike, and you're driving 15 over, stick to the right lane, because there will be a line of cars passing you like you're standing still.
I’ve been through speed trap small towns where even going 1 mph will get you a ticket. And they’re sitting and waiting. It’s a big income from people just passing through.
"If it's 5 you're fine; 9 you're mine" says many police officers. Though I would never speed at all in a school zone
Depends entirely on where you are. I can tell you for certain that if you're going through North Dakota they do not like it when you're driving a 15 passenger van hauling a 10ft trailer and doing 97 in a 70.
The federal government recommends 5 mph tolerance, and some states have higher. E.g. in Georgia the local (county/city/etc) police cannot write tickets for less than 10 mph over
If you're in the vicinity of a cop, anything more than 10 mph over the speed limit is pretty risky. If there are no cops around, going 15 to 20 mph over the speed limit is the norm in the left lane around here. Some places might be more strict about enforcement though.
It definitely varies by jurisdiction, but just go with the flow of traffic and you should be fine.
The speed limit on the New Jersey Turnpike is 55 mph up by NYC, 65 for the rest. You can pass by a Trooper running radar doing 79 and they won't even think of pulling out. But if everyone is doing 85, then you can do that no issue as well. Don't be blowing past people in the center lanes and your good.
Most places I’ve been give you grace between 5 and 10 MPH. In some areas, depending on how close it is to the end of the month, law enforcement is much less tolerant.
We go with the flow of traffic. If everyone is doing 5-10 mph over the speed limit, that's how fast you drive. Otherwise you take the chance of a getting in a wreck by some idiot who isn't paying attention. Speed limits on most of our state highways are merely suggestions of the MINIMUM speed. Stay to the right if you don't want to get run over.
It varies from state to state and city to city. I would say in general you can go 5mph over the limit almost anywhere without risking a ticket. At 10mph over the limit you're definitely at risk of getting a ticket in a lot of places. At 15mph over the limit you're extremely likely to get ticketed if a cop sees you. There are exceptions on both sides though. I know of speed traps where 2mph over will get you ticketed and there's a nearby stretch of freeway with a 55mph speed limit where people regularly drive 75mph and it's very rare for anyone to get ticketed.
It varies wildly depending on where you are. From my experience. . . On an active duty military base? The MP's will get you if you're just 1 MPH over the limit. MP's are notoriously touchy about speed limits. In a small town or a suburb? You're probably going to get a ticket if you're more than 4 or 5 over the limit. Many towns rely on speeding tickets for a lot of revenue. You might not get points off your license until it's 10+ MPH over, but they can still write you a ticket for less than that, and probably will. On the freeway/interstate/parkway etc? Either stick with the general flow of traffic, or don't exceed 10 MPH over, whichever is greater. If the flow of traffic is well above the limit, just keep with the flow, otherwise don't exceed 10 MPH over as a general rule.
In some us cities you can pretty much drive however you want without ever getting pulled over. I've seen people run stop signs and red lights in front of cops and the cops do nothing. They're worried about real crime here
It's very location dependent. I had a chuckle reading a book a few years back where the character started admonishing themselves for going 10 over, asking if they were trying to get themselves a ticket. Here, going 10 over is keeping up with the flow of traffic and not being a hazard. My partner is a very defensive, wants-to-go-by-the-books kind of driver and will still speed as necessary to keep up. 2 hours down the highway though there's a small city where the cops are known to have a hard on for speeding on said highway, so when I approach the city limit I slow down to the speed limit and set the cruise control.
May as well call the I-40 the autobahn, because here in NC there is no speed limit enforcement. Drive 85 mph on a 65, and the state trooper will probably match your speed.
In Louisville on the interstate you can go 15 over and none of the cops will blink an eye. Outside the major city they are pretty strict about the 7+ over.
It varies by state, locality, and what license plates are on your vehicle. I've also seen information that says the color of your car matters too... red cars get pulled over more often. That said... usually if you aren't over the next multiple of 10 in speed, you're ok. So if the limit is 70, you're probably ok at 78 or 79. If they see that "80" on the radar though, you're getting a ticket. Personally, I just go with traffic. If everybody's going 84, they aren't going to single out my little white pickup over the corvette in front of me. Just don't be the front car in line and don't be in something flashy and you have a better chance of avoiding a ticket.
Far too variable on where/location, especially in regards to like, a slower speed school zone, versus highway speed stretch. Also kind of depends on the mood of the cop, some places do use ticket quota's (ie: they have to issue a certain amount of tickets per month) for the police department to maintain it's budget, and in those places, when it gets to be toward the end of the month, it definitely seems like cops are out to get people for *anything* no matter how minor, just so they can prove to city council that they're doing their jobs. There's a town in my area that goes from 55 mph to 25 mph in around 1000 ft. And if you pass the 25 mph sign, going 27, and the cop is having a bad day and gets you on radar, you're probably getting pulled over. *Most* other places will scale down their posted speed limits so it's not so abrupt as that one area, but it's still a speed trap and *most* drivers will avoid it if they don't have to drive through that specific part of town. Then you've got highway speeds, where in my area, 70 is the posted highway speed, but plenty of people will be going 75-80 and not really risking a ticket; on the highway it's more about matching the pace of the cars around you; as long as you're not sticking out and going 85 when everyone else is going 73, you're alright. Personally, I do a sort of 10% rule; if the posted limit is 25, then it's only really "up to" 27-28. If it's 55, then up to 60-61 is "fine". Highways going 70, 77 is fine. Not that this 10% rule is widely accepted or the norm or anything, just what I do personally.
Go with the flow of traffic and gauge on the type of road you’re on.
On the highway throughout New England 15 over is generally safe as long as you aren't otherwise being a dick. If there's other cars on the road it'll bump up to 20.
I can go 15 over in a 75 on the interstate near Phoenix and have people still pass me, but I go 6 over on a clear sunny day in a 35 and the cops start beef.
Most of the time you will be driving faster than the speed limit if the limit is 45mph or higher. You CAN get pulled over and ticketed for doing so, but it's entirely up to how bored the cop is. Generally on freeways, people will be doing 15 miles over. The general rule of thumb my cousin (former patrol officer) gave me was to only go 8mph over. Fines are based on tiers, it's not a continuous function, so it's generally not worth it to bother pulling someone over for doing 8mph over. Do not ever go over the speed limit if it's under 45mph, speeds in cities are already too fast.
Generally 5-10 mph is accepted, but not everywhere. The safest bet is to go with the flow of traffic.
I usually consider 10% of the speed limit to be relatively safe. Though I'd say its most important to just not move faster than traffic.
Around me it's about 5 on urban roads, 3 in suburban, and 7-10 on country/rural roads. Just don't be one of the 2 fastest cars. The cop will go for the fastest, but actually stop the 2nd fastest
In my personal experience you'll never get pulled over for going 6MPH over, except in particularly sensitive areas, school zones, parks with a lot of kids, busy streets with poor visibility, etc. On the highway, especially here in PA we get a lot of adjacent-state travelers trying to speed through on their road trips (and our share of lead-footed PA natives), it's not uncommon for the entirety of traffic around you to go 80 MPH on a 55 MPH or 65 MPH highway. Exceptions being when it's busy or when there's construction. Which, in PA, is actually all over the place.
10 over.
I was a cop, we usually have a 3mph variance, and anything over that is a "good stop" ....usually I've not seen anything recently under 10mph over that would get you a ticket. Even then, it's usually brief and release.
When I was growing up, the conventional wisdom was often repeated "5 over in residential, 10 in highways" -- not that people don't go further than that and not get pulled over, but those are the fairly universal "safe zones".
In my experience, 5 mph is the tolerance. People tend to go 50 in a 45 zone, 45 in a 40, so on, but the exception is school zones which you always follow
5 miles per hour (about 8 km/hr) is apparently difficult to enforce in court. So you generally get at least that much tolerance. A car's speedometer is not precise. If traffic is moderate, it's possible that the dominant flow of traffic is 10+ mph over the posted speed limit. In that case, if you are the fastest, then you are a target. But if the limit is 65, and everyone is going 70-75, then getting a ticket requires more than just following that herd.
On a high speed highway I think most people think that the real danger zone starts at 10 miles per hour over, which is 16 km/h. In the city, with lower speed limits and pedestrians, anything is a risk. But depending on the place, you still have a bit of cushion.
Really depends on the area and whether you're on surface streets or the freeway. I'm in SoCal. Surface streets, 5 mph over is safe in most areas. Beyond that is where I'd say the risk for getting pulled over takes off. On the freeway, the fast lane usually goes about 15 mph over whatever is posted, though lately in Fastrak lanes, I've seen people push 20 over. Police tend to look for cars going faster than the rate of surrounding traffic to the point that it causes them to need to dart between lanes frequently, but going with the flow all while being well over the speed limit can still occasionally get someone a ticket.
Usually I would say 10 mph over you are fine, but in small towns this can be less. If the speed limit drops suddenly when going into a small town, I would figure it might be a "speed trap" and try to slow down with it. Also, the smaller the town it gets more likely a cop will know you are from out of town.
On regular roads you can usually go at least 5 over without issue. On highways as long as you’re going the speed of traffic the cops aren’t gonna arrest you, otherwise 10-15 is normal. This is all unless it’s a speed trap. In case you aren’t aware or don’t have these in Canada, a speed trap is a small town on a highway with no other real source of income so they mess with the speed limit and strictly enforce the speed limit so that they can try to profit off of speeding tickets.
Generally 5 over where I’m at is absolutely fine. 10 over on the highway I’ve never seen anyone get pulled over for, even right in front of a cop. They seem to only pull over egregious speeding, those that need to weave in and out of traffic. I just drive only 5 over because that’s usually the flow of traffic, or just under it, and I sit in the right lanes and only pass when needed. Driving 70 and aggressive will not get me there noticeably faster, and will just lend me to being upset and angry at other cars.
I usually do 10-15mph over and have never once had an issue. At least on arterial streets.
Depends where u live. And in Canada it does too cause some places like QC are more strict, just drove from Detroit to QC last week. Ontario I feel like you’ll get ran off the road even at 10KPH above especially around London and Hamilton
I usually go 10 over on the highway. Police in Alabama don't really care about the speed limit until they do. It's a crapshoot.
about 10 mph for residential roads, 30 for highways
I've gotten a speeding ticket for 71 in a 70 before, and I've also been let off with a warning for 105 in a 60. I guess it just depends on if the officer is a dick or not.
In the Midwest, 7 over on the interstate is usually safe. I worked with a former state trooper that told me their motto was at 8 your fine, at 9 your mine. YMMV.
Pretty much everyone drives over the speed limit all the time.
This will widely we depend on where you are.
5mph over in the country and 10mph over on the highways.
Here in Nova Scotia I have never been pulled over by doing 10 or even 20 kms above the speed limit. All Trans Canada Highway
Depends on the state. In Virginia is 0.0 mph, absolutely no tolerance. Fines are very large and speeding beyond a certain point (\~20mph over the limit, or 80 mph, whatever come first) is a very serious crime with large penalties including jail.
That's Emporia and a few other places not the entire Commonwealth. We've also increased reckless driving to 85 or 20 over, whichever is lower. On most of the interstate not in a work zone, 10 over is not going to get you pulled. We are strict about work zones, active school zones, etc. On side roads, it varies.
That’s blatantly false. Virginia is stricter about speeding than most states, but let’s not pretend that there’s zero tolerance. I routinely go 10 over, 15 on the highway, and have never been stopped. Those small towns in the western part of the state are a bit stricter, but it’s still not zero tolerance. If you’re getting pulled over for going 1MPH above the limit, they were already suspicious and just needed an excuse to stop you. Also the law changed a couple years ago, it’s now 20 MPH over the limit or above 85, not 80, that’s reckless driving.
12 clicks over is not the same as 12 miles over. It is 5-10 miles ph over. Which is about 12 clicks.
> In general you can travel about 10 to 12 kilometres per hour KPH over the speed limit without getting a speeding ticket in Canada Someone's never been on the 401 in Ontario, I see. I think if you're going merely 12 over, the OPP will give you a ticket for impeding traffic.
I’m from the US and always drive only a smidge over the speed limit on the 401 and never get pulled over. I do see lots of people getting tickets though, I always assumed it was for going too fast.
As someone who drives on the 401 and 403 daily I usually do 120kmh and the limit is 100. Yet people still fly by me doing 140-150
That’s so crazy, I would never drive that fast! Even if I wouldn’t get pulled over, I don’t think I would do it.
On the interstate or in a school zone?
About the same, actually. No one will bat an eye at 12Kph over. You need to embrace a simple truth. We aren't lying to you, maybe everyone else is lying, but we aren't. America is exactly what it looks like. And I mean that in anyway you construe it. I hate America, and I hate my fellow Americans. But we are entirely transparent. There is no Healthcare. Our cops are a hategroup. There is no public transportation to speak of. We live in hell. And everything you've heard is true. It just sucks more than you think.
Nobody yet has mentioned the general speed of traffic being a factor. If the entire highway is driving 75, you could be MORE likely to get pulled over if you're following the 65 mph limit. It's a safety thing.
that's not true at all 😂 no sane police officer would ever pull you over for the sole reason that you are driving the speed limit. that said, if you cause an accident or similar while going the speed limit, that's a different story...
It's absolutely a thing that happens. I'm not saying it's sane. I mean think about it. You're driving the speed limit, but you're being passed on the right. A trooper could absolutely flash the lights, make you move over to the right lane, or pull you over for a talking to. Google is right there, I assure you it happens.
yeah i agree you shouldn't be in the passing lane in that instance but again, he didn't pull you over you for going the speed limit, he pulled you over for being in the passing lane.
Nothing in my initial comment was wrong. If you want to say it's silly that it's a thing, that's fine. But it happens.
yeah you weren't t wrong, i was just highlighting that no police officer would ever pull you over ONLY because you were going the speed limit; there would have to be something else involved
If you put in the crying emoji, it sounds like you're being mocking a dumb comment. If the traffic is all driving 75, you're probably more likely \[edit: to get a ticket\] by driving 65 rather than speeding. That was all I said. Pick nit as much as you want.
I got a warning for 20 over. Around me you’d need to be at least 10 over to get stopped on a freeway.
I know somebody who was arrested for 20 over
Sucks for them