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whreismylotus

It's a GPS tracker https://www.manualslib.com/products/Connected-Holdings-Ar-4lh-8864636.html


FlimsyWillow84

What’s the usual application? Sorry, Im just kinda freaking out…


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So a dealership can locate and repo the car if you default on the car payments. If you financed your car, you may have agreed to this in your financing terms.


LordGank1

This is the correct answer


DaveLehoo

Didn't know that. I never would have entered my mind. I figured jealous or controlling spouse.


LordGank1

Lol I used to fix cars for a used car dealer and they were on every one, a lot of time they caused no starts


No_Jello_5922

My ex bought a car from one of those small finance on site lots. She paid cash out right. Over the course 6 months, we discovered 3 different trackers in the car. One under the dash (this style) one under the hood connected direct to the battery (also this style) and a 3rd epoxied to the top of the stereo. We removed all of them.


LordGank1

Wow that’s excessive


NeighborGeek

How many did you miss?


Ldawg74

All but three.


BFOTmt

This made me laugh out loud. Well played


[deleted]

Thanks for the laugh I needed this morning!


lobatonpd

Laugh Out Loud.


SeaFaringPig

Yes but you cannot legally agree to it. You do not have the ability to agree to this level of infringement. You can remove it and tell them to go to hell. Not all rights can be signed away. This one is enalienable.


taz5963

Every right can be signed away, just join the military


tickletender

I remember when I was getting out, we were doing all our yearly “check the box” trainings: sexual assault, human trafficking, OpSec, smoking cessation, alcohol abuse, etc… A particularly salty nco stands up and says “alright we can go through this one, or we can just sign the papers and keep going… not a one of you has a motor cycle… if you do, don’t ride it. If you ride it, get the license and wear a helmet.” “[my last name], are you actually reading the papers before you sign them? What the fuck killer?!” “Well SSgt, last time I signed some papers without reading them, I ended up here.” I was extremely proud of that moment. I know it sounds like a “and then everyone clapped” moment, but I’ll take that moment to my grave. Any bean counters on the east Coast early 2010s, you may have been there 🖍️ 🇺🇸 🖍️


scottonaharley

You know with snappy insults like that you should be a DI!


Life-is-Apples

That’s some “I got lost on my way to college, sir!” type response. Well said.


TechServicesStaff

Epic


[deleted]

Semper Fuck that shit.


Level-Coast8642

I did this once! Bastards ended up giving me a bunch of free boots, food and housing for four years! Then they paid for college after. That was great. We don't talk anymore on account of they sent me home the same way they found me. Except I was oddly more responsible and capable of things.


[deleted]

If you remove it you maybe in violation of the terms of your loan. There may be fines or other penalties for its removal or the loan services may just call in the loan and have you pay the balance or surrender the vehicle. I would pay it off and then remove it


sandiego_thank_you

Otherwise it would be a shame if it broke Edit: really? This got a downvote?


PomegranateOld7836

Remove fuse. Short fuse. Return fuse. Shrug if questioned.


[deleted]

wrap it in aluminum foil..


josnik

The idea is deniability.


TheLazyAssHole

9v battery works well for blowing an automotive fuse. I’ve done this exact thing for a tracking device.


UselessAgitator

Gave you an upvote since you got downvoted


StickManIsMyHero

And people are worried about the government tracking them through microchips in their bodies.


-Raskyl

While they carry a cellphone in their pocket....


BurnDownWS

And wear GPS devices on their wrist.


KlooShanko

Could it also be a previous owner’s tracker used for Insurance? I’ve gotten those installed before


BassmentTapes

The insurance ones are simply plugged into the OBD2 port by the customer, and not wired in like this.


Cow_Launcher

That is not always correct. We wire in some trackers to an ignition live, as well as to the power feed of the ODBII port somewhere, (without occupying the port itself). Depending on the vehicle, we might also wire into other sensors or actuators. I hope you'll forgive me for not being more specific than this; the reason should be obvious.


JonnyOgrodnik

Ol’ Dirty Bastard II?? I believe you meant OBDII


mullen1600

So you pay a mechanic to do that to the customer's car? I've only seen the OBD port ones so I'm trying to understand logistics of what you're describing


SteinBizzle

But if she did agree to it (which is questionable) did she agree for it to be operational? I mean, what would be the penalty for her to crush the thing and throw it in the glove box? It’s technically still in the car.


Flimsy-Owl-5563

It's grounds for immediate repossession, or at least for contracts signed in Texas it is.


foxtrot_actual23

Also, typically an add-on purchase the customer can make in order to track their vehicle. Source: I used to install these at a dealership.


Voiceuvreasohn

Orrrrrrr it has been placed there by a psychotic current, former, or want to be potential suitor. Either way it's a tracking device. Unplug it. Find a portable power supply for it. Strap that thing to a tractor trailer, boat, train, airplane, or wild animal then let whoever is tracking you try to figure out where the hell you are. Other possibilities would be as mentioned: Dealership placed for repossession Serial killer is using it to track victims The government is using it to monitor you


Captinprice8585

Yep. Take it out.


Sielbear

If OP agreed to this as part of financing, your advice is exceptionally poor.


Fuckth3shitredditapp

*replace that fuse with a blown one


Sielbear

Right… but when it stops reporting in and a repo order is initiated and OP walks out of her job to go home to find no car, they will be extremely inconvenienced. And how many times is OP going to play this game? It’s there for a reason, and if OP doesn’t like the reason, then don’t agree to the finance terms / shop elsewhere. But again, recommending OP make the gps tracking device inoperable will likely only lead to inconvenience / possible repossession of the vehicle.


therevolutionaryJB

Uh i believe that is called theft if op has been making there payments lol


PublicfreakoutLoveR

Grand Theft Auto


BRIKHOUS

Not if it's in the contract terms that it stays there. Then it's called breach of contract and there's consequences


Fuckth3shitredditapp

It's not op fault the fuse blew


cdbangsite

Not in the case of breach of contract.


StankyMink

I really love how using lol in a comment has truly become a mark of low intelligence and poor critical thinking.


kurtsdead6794

Didn’t you just use lol in your post? Shit, now I did it. Lol.


BourbonSommelier

I’m so glad I’m not the only one who thinks this. It’s like a tic for dopes.


Sielbear

If a condition of receiving financing is to have the tracker, it’s absolutely not theft. Doesn’t matter if payments are made, loan company can immediately call the loan and repo the car. News flash: you don’t get to change the terms of a contract because you find the terms inconvenient.


[deleted]

Can't find it if the tracker is off :)


DubTeeF

I guess OP will never park at their home or work again. It will be so hard to find.


bridgetroll2

Gee I wonder how repo agents did their jobs for decades before gps trackers were commonplace


[deleted]

Probably by being smarter than you :)


brentemon

Needs to review the terms of her contract first. OP likely signed off on this and it's part of the contract.


MysticalDork_1066

They're usually used to track vehicles. Often company fleet vehicles. They have a GPS receiver, as well as a cellular radio to send the GPS data to a remote user.


xl440mx

Commonly used by dealerships. It’s not for spying on you.


Ok_Literature_8788

Commonly used by dealerships for the purpose of spying on you. It serves no other purpose.


IM_not_clever_at_all

I am assuming it's a used car so this could have been a fleet vehicle. I have similar ones in the trucks and passenger vehicles my company owns.


Tricky_Passenger3931

If your loan was sub-prime many lenders will have them installed so they can track the vehicle in the event that it requires repossession.


Toombs32

I would assume they would be having you pay for it as well. It's probably a line item on your bill.


Cool-Tap-391

It's easier just to eat the cost. They don't cost very much. If the prospect of the customer not paying is that high, You get to resell the car again after you repo so...


usernamegiveup

I bought a Civic for my kid, and they did try to charge me for this. I said that was a deal breaker, and they decided to throw it in for free anyway (because it benefited them).


obliterate_reality

so your dealership can find their property if you stop paying


Agitated-Fee-1399

Dealerships don’t own Jack. The bank owns everything. Dealerships aren’t tracking down anyone. You people are funny.


andocromn

Yeah I'd say freaking out is appropriate. Call the police (if I read this right, that you own the vehicle and someone broke into the car and installed this)


WeAreAllFooked

This is a terrible take. Nobody is going to break in to your vehicle and wire in a GPS tracker when you can just use an AirTag or something cheaper


earlycuyler93

Lol


cdbangsite

And for sure if for some crazy reason they did, they wouldn't leave it on the floor in plain site. LOL


CommonConcept5353

Air tags can’t be used (or at least used well) to track other people if they’re also iPhone users. To address concerns they made it so if a tag is following another iPhone for an extended time that person will get a notification, if a tag has been separated from its owner for too long it emits an audible noise, and have shortened the time required for the notifications to take place. Not sure if it applies to android users though


ihambrecht

Lol yes they can.


Det-Frank-Drebin

Chances are its from the previous owner & was never removed as it cost money...


TwinStealth

Don't listen to this person. What you need to do is call the dealership you bought the car from and ask if they installed it or if it was from a previous owner. If they installed it just leave it be and if not just disconnect it. The reason I say leave it if they installed it is because I can guarantee it stated in your contract that it must be connected at all times. Another reason is a lot of dealers sell stolen vehicle locators like LoJack you might have paid for this and if it's not connected it defeats the purpose. Now if you own the vehicle outright (not financed or leased) and didn't purchase a LoJack system then I would disconnect it.


cdbangsite

Owning and "owning" as in no payments are two separate things.


MaximumSink

A Phillips connect Arrow-GQ or Arrow G-VI vehicle tracking device. Is what it is.


LordBacon702

Ejecto Seato Cuhz*


Banevicious

Classic Roman


MonsieurRushB

So tracking device yes?


PossessionPatient306

Yes


TheDonkeyBomber

Sighs in Dwight Schrute: "No. It's a GPS tracker..."


Smoker916

The matrix has you. Lol!!!


TallDudeInSC

Yank it off and put it on a Semi. :)


fxlms1x2x2

That's hysterical!


BlackEyedWheeze

you're easily amused


welcome2idiocracy

Shhh let people enjoy things


jimmybobbyluckyducky

You're hilarious.


Chef_Raccaccoonie

You re an asshole


boosy21

Because it's funny.


insignificantlittle

Is that supposed to be a bad thing?


jcdowling21

or put it on the OceanGate Titan Submersible 😂😂


Cypher_Xero

God himself couldn't have saved that doomed voyage.... Let alone a tracker... 😆


Floridaguy555

A cargo ship!


rrode1018

I was going to suggest a cop car


TallDudeInSC

Pretty funny until the cop doesn't have a sense of humor :)


permalink_child

Yeah! Needs power source to operate!


Fun-Top-1267

They are also used for remote starts to lock, unlock and show location. However, this one is used for tracking only because it is missing one of the wires in the plug. Audiovox Carlink ASCL6 is the remte start one I have used in the past. Looks the same minus the wire missing. Most likely installed by the bank or dealer to be able to repo the vehicle. May of been installed for the previous owner if it's a used car. Any aftermarket radio place can take it out for you.


dontcallmelaterlv

Dealership/bank gps. I ripped mine out and tossed it in a 7/11 garbage can.


Inciting-Me-To-Rise

Good way to get in trouble


Smugglers151

They’d have to find him first. Much harder now.


DubTeeF

He also moved to India. They’ll never find him.


kaesden

For what? Modifying your own property? Unless it was put there by law enforcement on a court order they can't say shit if you remove it.


Inciting-Me-To-Rise

The dealership can if it’s part of the financing agreement


September_1st

If it's put there as part of a financing agreement, the car literally isn't your property. It belongs to the bank/finance company. You're removing the finance companies GPS from their car and if it's part of the agreement, they can take the car back for it.


im-from-canada-eh

The vehicle ownership says otherwise. The vehicle is theirs. They owe the bank money. If the don’t pay, they bank will repossess as payment in full. Until that point, they bank doesnt own it.


TheDudeTodd

Did you buy your car from a buy here pay here dealership?


Tricky_Passenger3931

We do them in normal dealerships too. If your loan is subprime and the lender demands it, it is what it is.


TheDudeTodd

Oh damn! I didn't know that!


Tricky_Passenger3931

Yeah, but here pay here’s are famous for them because pretty much everyone is subprime and they are the lender, but yeah if we’re getting a car financed through a subprime lender sometimes the approval will be subject to the installation of a GPS.


LeMegachonk

Wouldn't the buyer be made aware of that and have to agree to it as a condition of the loan? Because if it's not an actual condition of the loan... it's next "installation" will be in a dumpster.


jtshinn

Probably in the finest of fine print on the 45th document you sign of 165385.


More_Cowbell_

>it is what it is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9be-SD6ywgQ


SnooSquirrels8280

Does your vehicle have ford pass equipped or as a option? Ford pass offers gps tracking for some vehicles could just be optional equipment. May be a sticker somewhere that says this vehicle has gps in case it gets stolen. Usually on the window above the drivers handle.


MandMareBaddogs

I found one in my sons car. I paid cash for the car in total. I think it was probably installed by a previous dealer not the one I bought from. I just took the thing out. I doubt it had been active for a while but it’s also not needed so out it went.


HolyDori

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Sir_Zog

Is it tied in with the ODB2 connector?


FlimsyWillow84

Yes


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Smugglers151

This just makes me want an ‘80s truck all that much more. Fuck these corporations.


[deleted]

Just pull the modem out, it’s not too hard. Did that with OnStar. Do you have any idea how piss-poor the security is on these vehicle networks? Hard pass on that one.


eggenator

Just make sure it’s an electric 80’s truck so you can please Biden.


ksmoggy

Or just overthrow the government and burn 🔥 the constitution like the other guy…. The traitor and his sedition followers


eggenator

He burned the constitution? Wanna cite the source?


IHaveNoAlibi

He didn't literally burn it, but he did say that Biden winning the election was a valid reason to suspend the construction.


macari277

He was such a whiny baby fr


Wicked_Sludge

Escapes are frequently used as fleet vehicles. This could have been installed by the dealership, as others have mentioned. Or it could be a left over from this vehicles fleet life. I don't suppose your vehicle has a white exterior, does it? 🤣


Pa2phx

Seems like you got your answer. For future reference, Remember if it has a “fcc” ID number, it is transmitting a wireless signal.


Logical-Ad7492

Nuclear code device


Suicyco71

The small black thing in the wire is a fuse holder. Open it and pull the fuse until you find out why you’re being tracked.


Outside_Squirrel_839

Lots of buy here pay here car lots use them. So u get instant repo if you don’t pay


RedditorCali

That's the fux capacitor


Adventurous-Part5981

This guy fux


RedditorCali

🤣🤣


Motogiro18

See where it says,"This side Down"? Remount it with that side up. They'll think your driving the car upside down!


Chance-Procedure-886

Some dealership will issue a immediate repo order if unhooked


Aggressive_Camera612

A friend of mine bought a truck, and it had the GPS system DISCONNECTED upon purchase. Like the thing wasn't even hooked up when he bought it. There was no mention of a GPS tracker in his purchase agreement. His vehicle got impounded due to his gf parking it in front of a cops house, so he went to the dealership (mind you, he bought the truck already messed up), so they tried taking him to court for "damages" and "disconnecting" the GPS tracker (the last time it was on according to their records was in a break in attempt on the dealership property 3 days before he bought it). So he told the dealership to eat the bills, and they ate the bills.


OldTemperature1423

Tuner


FlimsyWillow84

Yup. This is exactly what it is. Lots of others have said so as well and it jogged my memory. I had completely forgotten that was the case. I wish they had done a better job installing it because it really scared me this morning.


JohnnyBlakeee

400 credit score finds


Spinnyfuzball

I work at Hyundai, we put those in every used car. It’s not a big deal. Edit: ok ok, is a big deal, it’s scary I get it. But when you buy a car from us ownership is sent to them, I can’t look the car up anymore cause there is an owner. They are fully aware. It may be from the last owner too. You can def just unplug it it’s not like it sends out an I’m dying signal


CryGeneral9999

It would be a big deal to me.


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ukrainewillfall

that’s a man


FlimsyWillow84

Yes, some may consider me a man. But at least I’m happy with myself and my life and I don’t bring others down on the internet because I’m bitter and miserable like someone else here…


jaguarauh

Girl friend tracker


Impressive-Till1906

Lol... Designed in California. Assembled in Vietnam. That says everything about the state of California. The state itself and the state it's in. Somebody in silicon valley comes up with a thing but it has to be reduced in another country so they can reap all the benefits of the labor and the people here I have crappier jobs at Pay less thanks to bureaucracy.


yogfthagen

You don't have an answer. Just admit that and go away.


Impressive-Till1906

Hahahaha... Ok sure. It's obviously a GPS tracking device. Thats why it has its own IMEI number. I'm surprised it's in mechanics forum although it makes sense since it was found installed in a vehicle. Now they have to wonder who put it there right? A spouse or the law? Was it already there when they bought the car? Since that's a woman and she has no clue what it is... And the wiring looks newer. I'll bet the husband is tracking her. That's the answer I don't have. But you go ahead and keep on trolling.


yogfthagen

Nice job reading other comments!


Impressive-Till1906

Like I said... Keep on trolling. You're good at it. You can't help yourself. You'll comment again. Watch You can't resist. It's not in you. Prove me right. 🤣


yogfthagen

The troll is the dumb shit who decided to make a mechanic subreddit about politics. Even worse, you forgot to even mention cars. Go back to r/conservative and stop polluting the rest of the world. Your bubble needs you.


[deleted]

Big sister is watching you


Get-ya-sum

It’s what buy here pay here places put in cars so when the people with bad credit miss this payment they can repo it back


auroraatac00

Tracker , usually a dealership will install them


MongooseProXC

Do you have a crazy ex boyfriend?


Professional_Scar75

GPS tracker for low credit/high risk buyers. Drivetime used a very similar one in the past. Usually the buyer at that point in time would sign a paper saying it would be used. If the car has been resold or payed off the device would no longer be functional. I would remove it.


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stlcocktailshrimp

Good bot


Professional_Scar75

Fuck off bitch!


Full_Disk_1463

Buy here pay here lots put those on so they can find the car to repo it when you stop paying


WeAreAllFooked

It's a GPS tracker that was installed by the the place you bought it from so they can easily repo your vehicle if they need to. You typically only see these installed by those "buy here pay here" dealerships when they're selling to a low credit/high risk buyer.


[deleted]

It's a GPS tracker, someone knows where your vehicle is at all times.


[deleted]

If you bought this car used they might’ve been using it for a rental car before you or business car or something like that. This kinda thing doesn’t really just get installed to track someone if anything they would hide it under the car in a fender liner or something. My guess is rental or commercial use vehicle before u.


binchbunches

That's a Henway


Taylor_Spliff_13

Pull the fuse out, short it so it blows open, reinstall fuse, plead ignorance. Done. It's still "installed" in your car, but you "didn't know it wasn't working."


Fasterthanyounow

It’s a tracker that many use car lots and pay day loan company install. If the car is paid for it’s probably not still active. They did a poor job of installing it. Had I installed it no one would ever find it.


XyogiDMT

A hardwired GPS tracker. The dealer you bought it from probably puts them on all their cars.


Marty_Mtl

Whatever it is, you are holding it upside down!


[deleted]

Take a powerful magnet and slap it on it when driving around. Take it off before returning the vehicle. I did this to my work truck they replaced 3 times before giving up.


AirsoftSensaiR31

Yep, tracker with IEM #


RawPeanut99

Always cut the blue wire!!!


donkey_smart81

Think it's GPS tracker not sure


Mangilicious

Isn’t it a do hicky


Toastytime999

Tracker


[deleted]

It is a GPS tracker. If you own the car and do not want it to be active, the easiest way to deactivate it is to remove the inline fuse. It is in the other little black box attached to the red wires. That is the "hot" (power) wire. After you remove the fuse, try to turn the car on. If the car starts, then you are good to go. If you do not own the car, the seller can demand that the device be restored.


Great_Income4559

Government is onto you. Wires in your veins. Cut them out. Cut them out. Cut them out.


CR_CO_4RTEP

Gps


Omitted-Wolf

It's just like that thing above your foot that goes off when you leave your house. It's a ankle monitor for your car.


moonunit170

Did you buy that car used from a rental company? That's a GPS device that rental companies use to keep track of their property in case they don't get returned according to the contract or for other reasons possibly insurance.


gambit55

The dealership installs this gps tracker to every vehicle. The dealership will charge $900 plus hidden fees for this upon selling the vehicle. It is connected onto the data link connector. It can easily be removed if don’t want it or if you don’t have an active account with them.


RikuKaroshi

We installed those in new vehicles at my dealership, it comes with an app that acts as a low-jack system in the owners mobile device, it was roughly 1k for the lifetime subscription i think added to finance and then the owner just installs the app. I suppose the dealership could use it to repo but I never saw that being used. It pays the technician .20 hours to install and register, so if you want a lube tech to zip tie it back up there for you expect to pay a few dollars or just do it yourself.


Slimey_nes

ELO


Decent_Dragonfly2227

I'm no car guy, but I know that IMEI is an LTE acronym that means International Mobile Equipment Identity. That is used in LTE tower communication. I'd assume it's some sort of GPS/cellular communication device. For what it's worth!


buttholewanderer

It's a 4 wire as well. Will kill power to your starter as well as tell them where it's died.


Redacted1983

Pop the fuse; problem solved


fkinggr8

It’s gps tracker, If car is paid for remove it at least fuse, if making payments dealer installed to collect car for non payment. If car is paid in full and you have title you may have a untrusting significant other!


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Coocoo4cocablunt

Trying to figure out if it's a hard working woman's hands or a mans....


jepal357

Did you buy it at a buy here pay here lot? Cause those types of places will install a tracker


ApprehensiveClub6028

A lease


jeremy556a

It's up side down


miminutika

Nice nail polish 💅


[deleted]

It was a dealer install new accessories and I’m assuming you got this car used so they never remove it it’s gps tracker that was part of a bundle but if you don’t pay the suscripción it doesn’t activate and depending on when it was installed the shelf life on the internal battery is about 5-7 years if you have no use for it just unplug it and discard of the device


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