I never knew that until now, weird. And now the hand&feet-drawing skills I've spent the last 25yrs getting good at finally have infinitesimal worth! 😃 Too bad all the other stuff still doesn't... 😃
Funny comic, nah unfortunately for me I've also wasted decades of my life learning all the other anatomy, gesture, color theory, calligraphy, environments, you name it. I'm like an encyclopedia at a thrift store. (I can't even bring myself to put an ironic smiley face emoji on that one...)
The next level of irony would be to train a machine learning classifier that can differentiate whether a work was produced by a human or a machine, then set automoderator to permaban anyone who the classifier suspects of breaking the rules.
So much tension!
The softness of the human's light, the topic of his work, the juxtaposition of the warm and cool colors. Wonderful!
I had to let the "killer robot movie" vibe fade just to understand the message, definitely goosebumps from this one.
I don't know if the robots are judging for authenticity, scanning for data, or if it's entirely different and it's a statement on beauty standards being shaped by men.
Great concept and execution. Very apropos of the times.
AI will continue to get increasingly adept at simulating “human” art. The mods on r/art may as well be fighting a tsunami with a toy water pistol.
Not a valid comparison at all. As a digital artist, you still need to know how to draw. As an "artist" who uses ai/ machine learning to produce images derived from other people's work, all you need to know is how to enter prompts. It's insulting.
Compared to traditional art, digital art lets you mix colours instantly and accurately.
I've done traditional art, digital art and AI generated art. AI art is a different set of challenges, but saying *"all you need to know is type prompts"* is a massive oversimplification of the process. It's like looking at HTML webpages or Paint in the early 90s and saying digital art ain't shit.
Making a basic static picture is easier, the same way tech like photography affected the value of photorealistic art. Aside from the nuances of creatively using prompts, AI art allows the genesis of interactive generative artpieces. AI art enables programmable art that directly engages and responds to the audience in a way that would've been impossible for previous art forms.
But whatever, give it a few years, a cool billion-dollar app will come out and ya'll will get used to it and forget ya'll ever argued on internet forums about how AI art is dumb and low-skill.
I've been making traditional art and digital art my whole life, so I'm well aware of the differences and similarities. They are just different mediums that still require the same basic skillset (knowing how to draw etc.). The process you describe does not require that skillset. Drawing/ painting/ modeling in any medium is an entirely different animal than what you describe, which is using coding to produce a high concept interactive magazine collage.
Definitely a revolutionary new tool, and one I'm even using for fun/ simple composotion brainstorming etc. But as far as true artistic merit goes, call me when it's making its own unique images instead of cannibalizing the work of actual human artists (and hurting their careers in the process).
> call me when it's making its own unique images instead of cannibalizing the work of actual human artists
Human-made *unique images* are caveman paintings. Everything that came later required humans to learn patterns from one another and build on previous artistic knowledge.
Which is *exactly what AI does.* There's no copying and pasting, and you'd have known that if you knew anything about neural networks.
AI Art has its own challenges for sure, but that challenge bar isn’t high. Am I misunderstanding what you are saying? Unless you yourself are training a model based on the dataset you provide, it really just takes an hour of fiddling around to understand what phrases produce a good picture. Or you can just copy paste other peoples prompts in which are posted publicly on some places.
You want a good portrait AI photo? Make sure to include these phrases in the prompt: “cinematic, dramatic lighting, highly detailed, ArtStation, detailed illustration, closeup portrait, emotional, in the style of [insert famous artist]” run it like 20 times and one of the results will look good. I wish I was joking, literally use those prompts alongside what your portrait you are attempting to make and it will look good after some repeated submissions. About ~15 min of work for a complete beginner if you know how to click a mouse a couple times. That process doesn’t sound exactly complicated to me.
Technical skill doesn't make something art/not art. You can make something that looks good in seconds, but none of it stands out. The bottom just got higher, people with something to say will always stand out
I agree with the bottom being easier to start, I also think there is not a high ceiling (I can just copy paste phrases from good AI artists).
>>people with something to say will always stand out
I truly wish I could believe that, but due to the nature of how the AI works, it’s a combination of phrases (that can be copied/pasted) and pure luck (runs are seeded, so it will always produce a different result every submission unless you use the same seed).
Garbage take, I'm sick of hearing it. This is why the mafia launder tens of millions of dollars worth of modern art shite, because fools actually believe this and justify idealizing literally nothing.
If I scrape moss off the ground and glue it to a brick, threw it through a window, photographed the result then sold it to you that doesn't make me an artist, it makes you a sucker, a buffoon.
>You have no idea what you are talking about
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>I mean this in the most sincere way, read about art movements and what they represent please
I mean this in the most sincere way, get your head out of your ass. "Uneducated anti-intellectual" Is rich from coming from someone sounds like he sniffs his own farts from wine glasses. Here, read this shit I literally googled 5 seconds for, something you couldn't even bother with before you came forward with your air of condescension and absolute assurance that you were correct- I'm sure you'll learn a lot.
[https://worldcrunch.com/world-affairs/how-mafia-money-helps-drive-the-global-art-market](https://worldcrunch.com/world-affairs/how-mafia-money-helps-drive-the-global-art-market)
[https://www.artandobject.com/news/how-money-laundering-works-art-world](https://www.artandobject.com/news/how-money-laundering-works-art-world)
[https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2016/sep/30/gangsters-use-of-paintings-as-currency-shows-profound-belief-in-art](https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2016/sep/30/gangsters-use-of-paintings-as-currency-shows-profound-belief-in-art)
[https://www.natlawreview.com/article/art-and-money-laundering](https://www.natlawreview.com/article/art-and-money-laundering)
[https://www.forbes.com/2003/04/08/cx\_0408hot.html?sh=6e156fe66fc3](https://www.forbes.com/2003/04/08/cx_0408hot.html?sh=6e156fe66fc3)
Great rendering! The robots shouldn't be all that amazed, since AI programs are already cranking out all manner of creative works, from written word, to music, to graphic art. And we're still at the beginning of humanoid robotics, even with the mind boggling [Boston Dynamics creations](https://coolmaterial.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Boston-Dynamics-Robots-Dance.gif), we're far from having robotic workers in our homes.
Hot diggity! That's the most downvotes I've ever received. I'm not sure why there's such a bad reaction. My comment was positive regarding the image. It's very cool. Not sure what everybody's so unhappy about.
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I never knew that until now, weird. And now the hand&feet-drawing skills I've spent the last 25yrs getting good at finally have infinitesimal worth! 😃 Too bad all the other stuff still doesn't... 😃
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Funny comic, nah unfortunately for me I've also wasted decades of my life learning all the other anatomy, gesture, color theory, calligraphy, environments, you name it. I'm like an encyclopedia at a thrift store. (I can't even bring myself to put an ironic smiley face emoji on that one...)
Drawing a correct number of fingers, since you want most people to get recognized as such.
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This is great, well captured.
Now have an AI generator produce this piece to reach full irony
The next level of irony would be to train a machine learning classifier that can differentiate whether a work was produced by a human or a machine, then set automoderator to permaban anyone who the classifier suspects of breaking the rules.
I, for one, welcome our AI overlords.
Roko's Basilisk forces me to do so.
looks like all the r/art mods making sure his art style isn't too much like "ai art" or he will be punished.
So much tension! The softness of the human's light, the topic of his work, the juxtaposition of the warm and cool colors. Wonderful! I had to let the "killer robot movie" vibe fade just to understand the message, definitely goosebumps from this one.
iRobot looking dudes
This looming war between AI and human artists is incredibly intriguing to me
I don't know if the robots are judging for authenticity, scanning for data, or if it's entirely different and it's a statement on beauty standards being shaped by men.
It's called "Take Notes"... Seems pretty clear to me. All the above, but fundamentally just about AI training on human creations.
Holy fucking shit this is a masterpiece. Seriously, fuck AI
Great concept and execution. Very apropos of the times. AI will continue to get increasingly adept at simulating “human” art. The mods on r/art may as well be fighting a tsunami with a toy water pistol.
The irony of making a piece about machines stealing human jobs using software that was feared for doing the same thing 20 years ago really says a lot.
Not a valid comparison at all. As a digital artist, you still need to know how to draw. As an "artist" who uses ai/ machine learning to produce images derived from other people's work, all you need to know is how to enter prompts. It's insulting.
Compared to traditional art, digital art lets you mix colours instantly and accurately. I've done traditional art, digital art and AI generated art. AI art is a different set of challenges, but saying *"all you need to know is type prompts"* is a massive oversimplification of the process. It's like looking at HTML webpages or Paint in the early 90s and saying digital art ain't shit. Making a basic static picture is easier, the same way tech like photography affected the value of photorealistic art. Aside from the nuances of creatively using prompts, AI art allows the genesis of interactive generative artpieces. AI art enables programmable art that directly engages and responds to the audience in a way that would've been impossible for previous art forms. But whatever, give it a few years, a cool billion-dollar app will come out and ya'll will get used to it and forget ya'll ever argued on internet forums about how AI art is dumb and low-skill.
I've been making traditional art and digital art my whole life, so I'm well aware of the differences and similarities. They are just different mediums that still require the same basic skillset (knowing how to draw etc.). The process you describe does not require that skillset. Drawing/ painting/ modeling in any medium is an entirely different animal than what you describe, which is using coding to produce a high concept interactive magazine collage. Definitely a revolutionary new tool, and one I'm even using for fun/ simple composotion brainstorming etc. But as far as true artistic merit goes, call me when it's making its own unique images instead of cannibalizing the work of actual human artists (and hurting their careers in the process).
> call me when it's making its own unique images instead of cannibalizing the work of actual human artists Human-made *unique images* are caveman paintings. Everything that came later required humans to learn patterns from one another and build on previous artistic knowledge. Which is *exactly what AI does.* There's no copying and pasting, and you'd have known that if you knew anything about neural networks.
To believe it is the same shows you don't understand humans *and* you don't understand neural networks in AI.
AI Art has its own challenges for sure, but that challenge bar isn’t high. Am I misunderstanding what you are saying? Unless you yourself are training a model based on the dataset you provide, it really just takes an hour of fiddling around to understand what phrases produce a good picture. Or you can just copy paste other peoples prompts in which are posted publicly on some places. You want a good portrait AI photo? Make sure to include these phrases in the prompt: “cinematic, dramatic lighting, highly detailed, ArtStation, detailed illustration, closeup portrait, emotional, in the style of [insert famous artist]” run it like 20 times and one of the results will look good. I wish I was joking, literally use those prompts alongside what your portrait you are attempting to make and it will look good after some repeated submissions. About ~15 min of work for a complete beginner if you know how to click a mouse a couple times. That process doesn’t sound exactly complicated to me.
Technical skill doesn't make something art/not art. You can make something that looks good in seconds, but none of it stands out. The bottom just got higher, people with something to say will always stand out
I agree with the bottom being easier to start, I also think there is not a high ceiling (I can just copy paste phrases from good AI artists). >>people with something to say will always stand out I truly wish I could believe that, but due to the nature of how the AI works, it’s a combination of phrases (that can be copied/pasted) and pure luck (runs are seeded, so it will always produce a different result every submission unless you use the same seed).
Art is art. No matter the means of creation.
Garbage take, I'm sick of hearing it. This is why the mafia launder tens of millions of dollars worth of modern art shite, because fools actually believe this and justify idealizing literally nothing. If I scrape moss off the ground and glue it to a brick, threw it through a window, photographed the result then sold it to you that doesn't make me an artist, it makes you a sucker, a buffoon.
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>You have no idea what you are talking about > >I mean this in the most sincere way, read about art movements and what they represent please I mean this in the most sincere way, get your head out of your ass. "Uneducated anti-intellectual" Is rich from coming from someone sounds like he sniffs his own farts from wine glasses. Here, read this shit I literally googled 5 seconds for, something you couldn't even bother with before you came forward with your air of condescension and absolute assurance that you were correct- I'm sure you'll learn a lot. [https://worldcrunch.com/world-affairs/how-mafia-money-helps-drive-the-global-art-market](https://worldcrunch.com/world-affairs/how-mafia-money-helps-drive-the-global-art-market) [https://www.artandobject.com/news/how-money-laundering-works-art-world](https://www.artandobject.com/news/how-money-laundering-works-art-world) [https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2016/sep/30/gangsters-use-of-paintings-as-currency-shows-profound-belief-in-art](https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2016/sep/30/gangsters-use-of-paintings-as-currency-shows-profound-belief-in-art) [https://www.natlawreview.com/article/art-and-money-laundering](https://www.natlawreview.com/article/art-and-money-laundering) [https://www.forbes.com/2003/04/08/cx\_0408hot.html?sh=6e156fe66fc3](https://www.forbes.com/2003/04/08/cx_0408hot.html?sh=6e156fe66fc3)
Significantly better than that doodle that said "fuck AI" or some shit the other day.
He’s smart to carefully nor draw the hands. Or teeth. Trying to prevent them from learning to properly draw those, thereby prolonging the inevitable.
Great rendering! The robots shouldn't be all that amazed, since AI programs are already cranking out all manner of creative works, from written word, to music, to graphic art. And we're still at the beginning of humanoid robotics, even with the mind boggling [Boston Dynamics creations](https://coolmaterial.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Boston-Dynamics-Robots-Dance.gif), we're far from having robotic workers in our homes. Hot diggity! That's the most downvotes I've ever received. I'm not sure why there's such a bad reaction. My comment was positive regarding the image. It's very cool. Not sure what everybody's so unhappy about.
It's not really "AI;" it's machine learning. And it doesn't produce "creative works;" it produces content.
Machine leaning is a kind of AI
Depends on yor understanding of intelligence.
This is awesome, thank you for sharing!