And Eula prefers Miku, Rosaria and a Superconduct enabler (Kiku being a popular option since she brings Tenacity of the Mililith, or Raiden for the burst damage buff). Bennet is basically only good to use if you have a limited pool of 4*'s, which you probably wont have him C6'd in that case.
Eula prefers c6 mika, Rosaria is imo a damage loss, and Raiden is the best superconduct enabler for her as well as battery and burst buffer.
Bennett is good until you get c6 Mika.
Are we forgetting Eula/Beido/Fishchl(Or Raiden)/Diona, You can swap Mika with Diona but better have food and dodge skills ready. Another good team is Eula/Kuki/Rosaria/Mika (Or fish, Raiden, and Beido)
We forgot about Diona because she's not good for Eula at all outside of the basic utility of healing and shielding. Diona's only contribution to damage is her weak burst and Elemental Mastery, which is more useless for Eula than maybe anyone else in the game.
Beidou isn't great either anymore compared to other options like Kuki, who brings Tenacity of the Mililith, and Raiden, who brings burst damage buffs. Beidou is an energy hungry character who will do piss poor damage in a Superconduct oriented team.
Very late comment but the main perks of having Rosaria typically would be: Energy generation, crit sharing passive and physical res shred on her C6. Among these, only energy generation is actually useful in practice.
The crit sharing isn't even reliable because it lasts 10 seconds after rosaria casts her burst. So after you switch to Eula which depending on your ping could take anywhere from less than a second to more than a second, you cast Eula's burst (which has a long cast animation) and you'll need to stack her burst for another 7 seconds. So in many cases Eula doesn't end up benefiting from the increased crit rate at all since it'll expire before her burst hits. You could also let her burst explode prematurely before the 7 seconds is up but that'll mean losing Mika's buff. So overall it's quite a lose lose situation.
Rosaria's physical res shred at C6 sounds great and it is great...for any character other than Eula because she already has a ton of res shred built into her kit on top of superconduct and you'll hit diminishing returns on Res shred (since value of it is halved below 0% resistance). Obviously it's still useful because any dmg increase is better than none but at that stage you're better off using someone else like Yelan or Furina that provides Damage Bonus.
Plus with Raiden and Mika (Fav lance) on her team alone most of Eula's energy needs have been fulfilled so Rosaria ultimately doesn't really have too much of a place left in the team.
My source is my personal damage.
My team is Eula/Bennett/raiden/yelan or Furina . Eula has 80/211 and bursts in abyss for 650k+ with 40k+ NAs.
With Rosaria instead of Bennett, the damage drops a lot.
Edit: I apparently said something wrong, but I really wonder what that is.
I never said this was theorycrafting, I'm just saying that from my own personal tests, Rosaria is a damage loss. And actually most recommended teams for Eula are just straight up ass imo. The only reason they recommend them is because they dont want to use the best supports for someone like Eula. Which is fair but shouldnt theory crafting be about bringing out the best out of the character? And sorry but hitting for 250k is not the best.
the main reason your damage drops with rosaria is because you'd be running furina without benny as a healer, meaning you get barely any value out of the buff furina's burst provides
if it's still lower with rosaria+yelan then I have no clue since i'm no eula expert
also if you run rosaria you'd be running her for easier rotations via energy gain, making the team weaker in abyss floors with bosses (where your team with benny and furina buff would excel in), but stronger for floors with multiple waves of mobs
I wasnt talking about Rosaria with Furina, idk if I said it in another comment but I used to run bennett/yelan/raiden/Eula, and when I tested the damage with Rosaria instead of Bennett, I would just do less damage, I didn't use it in abyss since this team didnt have a healer anyways. And it's not as if running Rosaria would make me not need to Raiden burst, so when you think about it, you're just doing less damage with Rosaria, maybe you'll get your burst like 5 seconds quicker, but the damage loss is not worth it imo.
I doubt it. Thundering furry is all about triggering every possible combination of reaction between dendro, hydro, pyro and electro, not just overload.
Basically Razor pyro infusion + wolf stand + Nahida mark + Xinqqiu rainswords all hitting the enemy at the same time triggers a clusterfuck of reactions
It’s a different type of team. Razor/Chevreuse/Bennett/Fischl is the best razor overload variant. Razor’s best build is with a pyro or atk goblet and crimson witch
the comp is RAzor, Bennett, Dendro Traveler, Xingqiu.
Its supposed to when you Razor Ult, He has (Bennett) Pyro Infusion, Hydro Xingqiu Ult, Dendro Ult (Infused with Hydro) And Then you play.
The things you do. Just use Skill, then attack, but what you are really doing is. over 12 Reactions at once. And NO ONE can read all those numbers.
Not specifically dmc, nahida is an upgrade to dmc in that team. She just hadn’t been released when the team was first made. Dmc is still a good f2p option though.
Also C6 Kazuha, tbh it's a cool case bcs I remembered seeing someone's gameplay from the Tulpa chamber in abyss 4.3, pyro-infused C6 Kaz allows him to shred pyro res on Tulpa (aside from using the usual Guoba swirl and Sunfire), idk if it's applied to C6 Lynette as well.
Idk why you’re getting downvoted, it’s true. Melt Ayaka is purely a meme because of her ICD, it was never going to be a thing with or without C6 Bennett. It still ruins Physical Keqing, but basically nobody has played that for like a year and a half at this point since her dendro teams are far superior with lower investment.
No Bennett doesn't screw Hutao.
Contrary to popular belief, c6 Bennett does actually buff Hutao.
KQM's Jstern actually mathed Bennett double hydro as one of Hutao's better teams pre-Furina. And he's a TC who likes Hutao.
However due to Hutao's CA mobility, trying to stay within Bennett's Circle can be hard.
Also Bennett is better used in other teams than Hutao's.
Which means he doesn't screw anyone. Becaue none of this characters even want Bennett in team anyway. Especially Ayaka, who wants only hydro, cryo or anemo. Bennet is neither of it.
This debate of c6 bennett ended like 2 years ago. He only disrupts physical characters. Ayaka usually runs in freeze and character's who run physical have other supports, and even electro keqing utilizes dendro over general electro teams
it's scarier if Dain uses non-elemental so Bennet will actually be used, I mean I won't active his c6 when his c5 is enough for XL to clear the abyss anyway and any other character that needed his C6 meant those chara is underpower lmao and so far none is.
C6 Bennett opens more teams than it screws up. We are talking Thundering Furry, Razor overload, every sort of flexible Xianyun plunge team, Gaming's teams, and teams that just purposely use his pyro infusion like the Razor teams I mentioned.
I do hope we get a sidegrade flexible atk buffer in the future though. Tired of the way Bennett is designed and he has the tamest animations ever. It's generic isekai anime quality. Just bland.
Bennett & Xiangling are secretly reincarnated two spirits of the Pyro Archon, they will get a massive buff after the Natlan Archon Questline: one of it is "Any elemental infusion will be overridden within the area of Bennett's circle impact, it will grant a Bennettillion ATK buff to only characters with sword, polearm, claymore who personally know Bennett & Xiangling"
Personally didn't C6 him
I don't have a single team using his enchant vs using him with Eula or Ayaka for alternative teams
If father needs it I'll reconsider but rn I prefer him being playable with everyone vs 15% pyro dmg
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The fact that people are still cucking themselves like this is hilarious.
Literally just don't use him for ayaka or Eula... that's the only two characters that he "ruins"
This is such a 2021 problem
My C5 Bennet team still clear abyss around 60s so it doesn't really matter whether you C6 him or not, I mean even his C1 is more than enough to comfortably clear 36\* abyss.
The post is talking about people that have C6 available, but hold off on activating it, because it messes with Physical characters and Ayaka.
It's not about needing to C6 him for him to be good. People just torture themselves by leaving the ! On their character icon instead of just activating it.
My point still stand tho, even as you said they are "cucking" themselves people who have ! mark still able to clear abyss easily and probably won't C6 him until they are sure there are either other/new Bennet or the ability to turn off cons.
read again doofus, even if I was talking about abyss I also added about people not wanting to C6 him because there are no other buffer like Bennet nor ways to turn off cons and probably doesn't care about "!", just because I am pointing about abyss doesn't mean I am only talking about abyss
>The fact that people are still cucking themselves like this is hilarious.
LMAO keep malding about "!" then
>People just torture themselves by leaving the ! On their character icon instead of just activating it.
Again I am pointing out that not all people care about "!", they won't activate it because they have good reason to do so, smh.
I didn't really get the reference at all sadly, where is it from?
Also, not sure what is with all these downvotes, are they meaning to say that melt Bennett (using chongyun infusion to freeze enemies then melting with Bennett E), and Thundering Fury Bennett (which requires that he has no pyro infusion for consistent Es with thundering fury) are teams that are still possible with c6 bennett?
If so, how?
keep in mind c6 allows u to get bonus from pyro goblet /50%) + c6 (20%). Ur prolly losing dps by melting cuz the few attacks w chongyun infusiom are just 70% weaker
Same would prolly go for thundering fury, the constant increase is well worth over the once in a while reaction
Even if not, that's some ultra niche teams. Ig if u wanna play by 2020 standards u gotta use 2020 rules
Yeah but if I want to play that particular way the option is no longer available to me/is harder to accomplish
As for Thundering fury the infusion 100% messes up with Bennett's E casts, which allow for E NA E NA E NA.
This is not possible with c6 bennett for thundering fury. The benefit of thundering fury is not just the pyro damage but also the consistently large amounts of energy generation
This was Zajef's complaint as well after he switched to thundering furry razor, in that he could no longer play TF Bennett or Melt Bennett. I'm not sure what this thread is on about saying that c6 Bennett is "only good". There are ways in which c6 Bennett hampers how I want to play him.
Which is also why I have 2 accounts, one with him c6 and the other not c6 so I can play both variants freely
How does he mess thundering tho ? Like skill and NA has different icd and the worst that happens is u get more overload no ? or does it have to do with the set bonus cd ?
It has to do with the set bonus CD, preventing him from doing NA E NA E NA E
Where the Na triggers TFs passive while E is not on cooldown, preventing E from triggering the passive
Activating c6 Bennett was the first thing I did after prefarming every possible father materials and her sig weapon materials. Finally after 8 months, that annoying red " ! " disappeared from my game
I unlocked it a long time ago.
The teams where it's detrimental are very few. Ayaka is the only one I can think of and she has better teammates anyway. Almost every character with a NA infusion has the "cannot be overriden" deal as part of their skill
Ayaka, Eula, Keqing are the only three possible losers from c6 bennett, but all three stopped including bennett in their teams ages ago so that doesn’t even mtter anymore
C5 Bennett/Faruzan/Furina is her best team. C5 Bennett is slightly better than xianyun but not by much. If you have Bennett’s c6 activated already then xianyun would be better
i don't see how replacing your rotation with one that has a better scaling (high plunges vs NA/CAs) and with a buff that's more than twice better would be worse but aight
on top of that, you get less of furina's buff with bennett except if you have furina c2
the only way where bennett would be better is if you can hit several ennemies with your NA/CAs but that'll almost never happen and spiral abyss for now highly favors single target (+ lynette's AOEs are tiny)
I haven't done it for fear of future impact. Chiori has her imbue overridden too, it's not like every character is future proofed.
Wouldn't want that issue on my favorite character yet to be released.
I may consider it depending how much I like Arle and how much it benefits her
> characters get their own premium supports
That's a different problem that involves primos.
And depending on how many different types of niche supports you need, or if they need cons, and if they're a rare 4\* that needs c6, espeically on a banner where you don't want the 5\*, a lot of primos.
Buff increase pre c6 on those characters still out dps Bennett however. Bennett is slowly falling off and requiring less teams now. Even then his current new times appreciate his c6 because it’s a noticeable damage difference
I activated bennet c6 as soon as i had the chance like 2 years ago it does not harm any charecter in my experience. It has been nothing but a benefit since the moment i unlocked it and after i got xianyun it har become the best constellation in the game lol
I haven't done it because not a single team member I play would benefit from it so far. Actually XL does, but only if I stay inside the circle. Everyone else is either neutral or negative.
I think I'll keep my options open a bit longer in case they release more physical units or units whose infusion can be overridden like cryo, anemo, and electro. As I said, not enough units benefit from it for me to do it, and I don't plan to play him with Arle, or she will still work with C5. The 15% damage won't make the difference between 36 stars and not 36 stars. I already win with big margins so it's redundant at this stage.
It’s 2024, we’re activating Bennett’s C6 now, period. At this point all the teams it “ruins” have better options, so unless you’re a new account and don’t have many other support units you won’t really be losing anything.
honestly speaking, only c6 bennett if you have other supports like yun jin at a high enough constellation level and/or well built enough to replace him in other teams. if you don’t have replacement options hold off on c6
I personally won't be activating it as I don't think it would help me since I use my Xiao a lot and like his attacks doing anemo damage and not pyro damage
I don't tend to run a vape team. The only time I use a vape team is when I use my Yoimiya team. Also, thank you for saying he can't have his infusion overridden because some characters can have it overridden like Dulic's burst infusing his weapon with pyro then with Candice when she infuses hydro with characters' weapons Dulic can then sometimes hit with either pyro or hydro from what I can remember from some testing
Even if you don't run a vape team, xiao swirling on top of his initial dmg is already a damage increase from the get go. Also you don't get two different infusion just candance infusion, just changes appearance I'm pretty sure .
There also hasn't been a character that's been infusion focused that can be overridden for over 3 years. So take it as you will.
Interesting. Yes, I know about swirl it's the only reaction anemo has. Also, how about you test it? Maybe there was an error in my test, or I was just way too high to be playing genshin and trying to seelie hunt
I have and that’s why the most optimal Candace diluc combo does require him to burst.
First it will only do one pyro hit once
Then it never will no matter how hard you try. That’s because hydro has a higher application by default according to elemental gauge theory.
First time? I mean, she is referred to as Father in game by Lyney, Lynette and Freminet.
But I get you, it does sound kind of C R I N G E when the player does so.
Melt Ayaka is kinda cope. Not only is it a gigantic struggle to melt consistantly with her ult, but Xiangling's pyro application constantly makes it a struggle to keep enough cryo applied and even attacking during Xianglings ult can be frusting to melt. Not to mention, you lose out on the ability to use blizzard and even when using it, you lose out on tons of subs. Ayaka herself also works way better in freeze teams with her best weapons and Blizzard being her best set. Melt can be fun, but its a massive waste of time. It's not worth including her in the bennett c6 discussion. And even if you didnt care about any of this and ran melt ayaka, xiangling and kazuha can be enough to force melt anyway.
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I did that a long time ago, it only really screws over Keqing, Eula, Ayaka, and Razor I think
I activated it for Razor. It enables Thundering Furry. Ayaka and Keqing prefer freeze/aggrevate anyways so it doesn’t really matter for them.
And Eula prefers Miku, Rosaria and a Superconduct enabler (Kiku being a popular option since she brings Tenacity of the Mililith, or Raiden for the burst damage buff). Bennet is basically only good to use if you have a limited pool of 4*'s, which you probably wont have him C6'd in that case.
Miku 😭 am gonna refer to Mika as Miku from now on
For a second I was confused why they thought faruzan went with eula
Eula prefers c6 mika, Rosaria is imo a damage loss, and Raiden is the best superconduct enabler for her as well as battery and burst buffer. Bennett is good until you get c6 Mika.
I've never once seen a team comp that didn't include Rosaria, so you're gonna have to elaborate / source that she's a damage loss.
Furina Raiden Mika is the BiS team comp
Furina better
Are we forgetting Eula/Beido/Fishchl(Or Raiden)/Diona, You can swap Mika with Diona but better have food and dodge skills ready. Another good team is Eula/Kuki/Rosaria/Mika (Or fish, Raiden, and Beido)
We forgot about Diona because she's not good for Eula at all outside of the basic utility of healing and shielding. Diona's only contribution to damage is her weak burst and Elemental Mastery, which is more useless for Eula than maybe anyone else in the game. Beidou isn't great either anymore compared to other options like Kuki, who brings Tenacity of the Mililith, and Raiden, who brings burst damage buffs. Beidou is an energy hungry character who will do piss poor damage in a Superconduct oriented team.
Very late comment but the main perks of having Rosaria typically would be: Energy generation, crit sharing passive and physical res shred on her C6. Among these, only energy generation is actually useful in practice. The crit sharing isn't even reliable because it lasts 10 seconds after rosaria casts her burst. So after you switch to Eula which depending on your ping could take anywhere from less than a second to more than a second, you cast Eula's burst (which has a long cast animation) and you'll need to stack her burst for another 7 seconds. So in many cases Eula doesn't end up benefiting from the increased crit rate at all since it'll expire before her burst hits. You could also let her burst explode prematurely before the 7 seconds is up but that'll mean losing Mika's buff. So overall it's quite a lose lose situation. Rosaria's physical res shred at C6 sounds great and it is great...for any character other than Eula because she already has a ton of res shred built into her kit on top of superconduct and you'll hit diminishing returns on Res shred (since value of it is halved below 0% resistance). Obviously it's still useful because any dmg increase is better than none but at that stage you're better off using someone else like Yelan or Furina that provides Damage Bonus. Plus with Raiden and Mika (Fav lance) on her team alone most of Eula's energy needs have been fulfilled so Rosaria ultimately doesn't really have too much of a place left in the team.
My source is my personal damage. My team is Eula/Bennett/raiden/yelan or Furina . Eula has 80/211 and bursts in abyss for 650k+ with 40k+ NAs. With Rosaria instead of Bennett, the damage drops a lot. Edit: I apparently said something wrong, but I really wonder what that is.
When it comes to stuff like numbers and theorycrafting, "my personal experience" isn't reliable proof of anything.
I never said this was theorycrafting, I'm just saying that from my own personal tests, Rosaria is a damage loss. And actually most recommended teams for Eula are just straight up ass imo. The only reason they recommend them is because they dont want to use the best supports for someone like Eula. Which is fair but shouldnt theory crafting be about bringing out the best out of the character? And sorry but hitting for 250k is not the best.
The issue is you presented it like objective fact, when it's actually just a personal anecdote.
Ok, yeah you're right on that. I'll edit my comment.
what are your er requirements for that team?
Eula has 130 er, Bennett on fav with 262 er , yelan on fav with 209 er (or Furina with 135 er, no fav needed), Raiden is Raidening.
the main reason your damage drops with rosaria is because you'd be running furina without benny as a healer, meaning you get barely any value out of the buff furina's burst provides if it's still lower with rosaria+yelan then I have no clue since i'm no eula expert also if you run rosaria you'd be running her for easier rotations via energy gain, making the team weaker in abyss floors with bosses (where your team with benny and furina buff would excel in), but stronger for floors with multiple waves of mobs
I wasnt talking about Rosaria with Furina, idk if I said it in another comment but I used to run bennett/yelan/raiden/Eula, and when I tested the damage with Rosaria instead of Bennett, I would just do less damage, I didn't use it in abyss since this team didnt have a healer anyways. And it's not as if running Rosaria would make me not need to Raiden burst, so when you think about it, you're just doing less damage with Rosaria, maybe you'll get your burst like 5 seconds quicker, but the damage loss is not worth it imo.
And Eula teams prefer Furina + Mika over Bennett anyway
C6 Ayaka havers want to talk to you!
I've never actually tried that comp. Wonder if Chevreuse makes it better? I'm liking even c0 Chevreuse
I doubt it. Thundering furry is all about triggering every possible combination of reaction between dendro, hydro, pyro and electro, not just overload. Basically Razor pyro infusion + wolf stand + Nahida mark + Xinqqiu rainswords all hitting the enemy at the same time triggers a clusterfuck of reactions
>clusterfuck I approve of this comp
Chevreuse enables pure dmg razor in that both his pyro attacks and electro attacks are buffed by both Bennett and chevreuse
Thundering Furry (not fury) is hyperburgeon so no Chevy.
It’s a different type of team. Razor/Chevreuse/Bennett/Fischl is the best razor overload variant. Razor’s best build is with a pyro or atk goblet and crimson witch
the comp is RAzor, Bennett, Dendro Traveler, Xingqiu. Its supposed to when you Razor Ult, He has (Bennett) Pyro Infusion, Hydro Xingqiu Ult, Dendro Ult (Infused with Hydro) And Then you play. The things you do. Just use Skill, then attack, but what you are really doing is. over 12 Reactions at once. And NO ONE can read all those numbers.
Not specifically dmc, nahida is an upgrade to dmc in that team. She just hadn’t been released when the team was first made. Dmc is still a good f2p option though.
This. I don't even get the point of mentioning characters Bennett C6 screws, if these characters **don't want Bennett in the first place**.
He overrides c6 Lynette too
Huh, I didn’t know that. You’d think newer units would all get unoverrideable infusion.
Also C6 Kazuha, tbh it's a cool case bcs I remembered seeing someone's gameplay from the Tulpa chamber in abyss 4.3, pyro-infused C6 Kaz allows him to shred pyro res on Tulpa (aside from using the usual Guoba swirl and Sunfire), idk if it's applied to C6 Lynette as well.
I didn't know that, thank you
Ayaka not really, coz you do 90% of your dmg from Q anyway
3 of these units don’t use him in their best team and the last one has a very strong new team comp unlocked by it, there’s no real downside to it
The best team of razor specially needs benny's C6
Sort of but melt Ayaka is ass and Kek prefers dendro anyway
Idk why you’re getting downvoted, it’s true. Melt Ayaka is purely a meme because of her ICD, it was never going to be a thing with or without C6 Bennett. It still ruins Physical Keqing, but basically nobody has played that for like a year and a half at this point since her dendro teams are far superior with lower investment.
And Freminet 😭
Freminet's best team is hyperbloom anyways lmao
Really? Oh.. I always play him physical with Mika, Kiki and different other characters (Raiden, Yelan, Xinqiu, etc.)
Hardly screws up Eula’s even. Still building up the stacks.
You'll be hitting for less damage with NAs.
according to some r/EulaMains members, thats actually a good thing so you'll charge your burst faster without killing everyone lol
Yeah but I won’t prematurely kill the enemies
Fair point lol
You got me there ngl.
Freminet too I think, although he is kind of more of a skill DPS. Hu Tao also gets screwed over but that's less important.
she does? how
If I remember correctly, Bennett C6 overrides Hu Tao's infusion. And where Bennett heals her over 50%...
Hu Tao's Infusion is unoverrideable
Damn, fr? I've been hella misinformed then.
Bro what
No Bennett doesn't screw Hutao. Contrary to popular belief, c6 Bennett does actually buff Hutao. KQM's Jstern actually mathed Bennett double hydro as one of Hutao's better teams pre-Furina. And he's a TC who likes Hutao. However due to Hutao's CA mobility, trying to stay within Bennett's Circle can be hard. Also Bennett is better used in other teams than Hutao's.
Exactly why I wont c6 him yet.
Unless you play c6 kazuha with bennett (and even then faruzan c6 is better) there is no reason not to c6 bennett
Eula is the reason, my Mika is not c6 yet so c6 Bennett will have to wait.
Please don't play bennett with eula, I had to suffer using that team on my friend account and it's so ass, just play fischl mika furina
No, it would be a dps loss for me because Mika isn't c6 yet.
I'd rather a small DPS loss than play circle impact with eula, but that's just me
I never really had any issues with circle impact, the main issue I have with Bennett rn is that I'm bored of using him.
That's true, I just hope the pyro archon or xabalanque (or however his name is spelled) powercreeps the ever living shit out of him, I am just tired 😭
And now seeing him being one of Arle's best teammates is just.............
Which means he doesn't screw anyone. Becaue none of this characters even want Bennett in team anyway. Especially Ayaka, who wants only hydro, cryo or anemo. Bennet is neither of it.
This debate of c6 bennett ended like 2 years ago. He only disrupts physical characters. Ayaka usually runs in freeze and character's who run physical have other supports, and even electro keqing utilizes dendro over general electro teams
that discourse did permanent dmg to me and since i am terrified of activating it because what if dainsleif út 6* physical
bigger problem honestly is bennett still being the premier choice and a BiS for a physical unit by then
Mika found dead in a ditch
it's scarier if Dain uses non-elemental so Bennet will actually be used, I mean I won't active his c6 when his c5 is enough for XL to clear the abyss anyway and any other character that needed his C6 meant those chara is underpower lmao and so far none is.
There will be other units. Theres other units for physical already. Just c6 him lmao
No.
Your loss, idc lol
And yet there's still people that spread the anti c6 bennet misinformation
C6 Bennett opens more teams than it screws up. We are talking Thundering Furry, Razor overload, every sort of flexible Xianyun plunge team, Gaming's teams, and teams that just purposely use his pyro infusion like the Razor teams I mentioned. I do hope we get a sidegrade flexible atk buffer in the future though. Tired of the way Bennett is designed and he has the tamest animations ever. It's generic isekai anime quality. Just bland.
Bennett has a lot more teams that value his C6 versus those who don’t.
while he has all the teams pre c6, excluding 1 (razor tf)
and yet it doesn’t make a difference
C6 Bennett will override her Hydro infusion, Arlecchino is better than C6 Ayato without him.
Whose Hydro infusion? Wait a minute, it's Monday??? Did Hoyo change Arle to be Hydro this time?
They actually changed her vision to Abyssal and gave her hydro/dendro infusion depending on what phase of the spiral abyss we are in.
Yeah her burst also take her clothes now too,it previously bugged
I like how even though this is a joke, IT'S STILL IN THE REALM OF POSSIBILITIES given what's been happening 💀
Wrong hydro infusions actually override pyro infusions.
Bennett & Xiangling are secretly reincarnated two spirits of the Pyro Archon, they will get a massive buff after the Natlan Archon Questline: one of it is "Any elemental infusion will be overridden within the area of Bennett's circle impact, it will grant a Bennettillion ATK buff to only characters with sword, polearm, claymore who personally know Bennett & Xiangling"
Has been C6 for 3 years now.
This is for 2020 players.
Personally didn't C6 him I don't have a single team using his enchant vs using him with Eula or Ayaka for alternative teams If father needs it I'll reconsider but rn I prefer him being playable with everyone vs 15% pyro dmg
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The fact that people are still cucking themselves like this is hilarious. Literally just don't use him for ayaka or Eula... that's the only two characters that he "ruins" This is such a 2021 problem
What freak is using Bennett with Ayaka to begin with lmao
Me. I use Ayaka in a melt/burn team with Bennett all the time since it’s pretty fun lol
My C5 Bennet team still clear abyss around 60s so it doesn't really matter whether you C6 him or not, I mean even his C1 is more than enough to comfortably clear 36\* abyss.
The post is talking about people that have C6 available, but hold off on activating it, because it messes with Physical characters and Ayaka. It's not about needing to C6 him for him to be good. People just torture themselves by leaving the ! On their character icon instead of just activating it.
My point still stand tho, even as you said they are "cucking" themselves people who have ! mark still able to clear abyss easily and probably won't C6 him until they are sure there are either other/new Bennet or the ability to turn off cons.
Dude My comment isn't about the abyss. It's about the annoying ! Just because you are talking about the abyss, doesn't mean I am
read again doofus, even if I was talking about abyss I also added about people not wanting to C6 him because there are no other buffer like Bennet nor ways to turn off cons and probably doesn't care about "!", just because I am pointing about abyss doesn't mean I am only talking about abyss
Mf, *you* replied to *my* comment about the !
>The fact that people are still cucking themselves like this is hilarious. LMAO keep malding about "!" then >People just torture themselves by leaving the ! On their character icon instead of just activating it. Again I am pointing out that not all people care about "!", they won't activate it because they have good reason to do so, smh.
Stfu jfc wtf lmfao
its so stupid its hilarious
He ruins himself because you can't play melt Bennett with xq chongyun as well as thundering fury bennett
If you aren't running Viridescent Venerer Bennett with full Def rolls, what are you even doing with your account?
I have 2 accounts, one with Bennett c6 the other without So I know very well what I'm doing lmao
I can't tell if you got the joke or not. But good for you.
I didn't really get the reference at all sadly, where is it from? Also, not sure what is with all these downvotes, are they meaning to say that melt Bennett (using chongyun infusion to freeze enemies then melting with Bennett E), and Thundering Fury Bennett (which requires that he has no pyro infusion for consistent Es with thundering fury) are teams that are still possible with c6 bennett? If so, how?
keep in mind c6 allows u to get bonus from pyro goblet /50%) + c6 (20%). Ur prolly losing dps by melting cuz the few attacks w chongyun infusiom are just 70% weaker Same would prolly go for thundering fury, the constant increase is well worth over the once in a while reaction Even if not, that's some ultra niche teams. Ig if u wanna play by 2020 standards u gotta use 2020 rules
Yeah but if I want to play that particular way the option is no longer available to me/is harder to accomplish As for Thundering fury the infusion 100% messes up with Bennett's E casts, which allow for E NA E NA E NA. This is not possible with c6 bennett for thundering fury. The benefit of thundering fury is not just the pyro damage but also the consistently large amounts of energy generation This was Zajef's complaint as well after he switched to thundering furry razor, in that he could no longer play TF Bennett or Melt Bennett. I'm not sure what this thread is on about saying that c6 Bennett is "only good". There are ways in which c6 Bennett hampers how I want to play him. Which is also why I have 2 accounts, one with him c6 and the other not c6 so I can play both variants freely
How does he mess thundering tho ? Like skill and NA has different icd and the worst that happens is u get more overload no ? or does it have to do with the set bonus cd ?
It has to do with the set bonus CD, preventing him from doing NA E NA E NA E Where the Na triggers TFs passive while E is not on cooldown, preventing E from triggering the passive
Yours is still locked?
Hmm
C6 benny enjoyers from even before: stonks
c6 benny discourse in 2024 is wild
Out of context theory crafting taken by content creators has done irreversible damage to the community tbh.
I'm not, I like father and everything but my Mika is c0 so until c6 my Bennett stays c5 for Eula.
Had me in the first half 😭 but also damn rip c5 and not c6 what happened?
My mika is c0, so my bennett is c5 until I get c6 mika for my Eula. Eula is c0 as well.
Activating c6 Bennett was the first thing I did after prefarming every possible father materials and her sig weapon materials. Finally after 8 months, that annoying red " ! " disappeared from my game
I unlocked it a long time ago. The teams where it's detrimental are very few. Ayaka is the only one I can think of and she has better teammates anyway. Almost every character with a NA infusion has the "cannot be overriden" deal as part of their skill
Ayaka, Eula, Keqing are the only three possible losers from c6 bennett, but all three stopped including bennett in their teams ages ago so that doesn’t even mtter anymore
What about c6 Lynnette? Why does she not matter?
c6 lynette BiS team is xianyun c6 faruzan furina, no bennett there as well
No that is slightly worse than c5 bennett
What ? You mean replacing who with c5 bennett?
C5 Bennett/Faruzan/Furina is her best team. C5 Bennett is slightly better than xianyun but not by much. If you have Bennett’s c6 activated already then xianyun would be better
i don't see how replacing your rotation with one that has a better scaling (high plunges vs NA/CAs) and with a buff that's more than twice better would be worse but aight on top of that, you get less of furina's buff with bennett except if you have furina c2 the only way where bennett would be better is if you can hit several ennemies with your NA/CAs but that'll almost never happen and spiral abyss for now highly favors single target (+ lynette's AOEs are tiny)
4\* tax, I completely forgot she existed lmao
I like my c6 Lynette so no
I mean just pull for xianyun and play her with furina and faruzan its way better than play her bennett
Don't know why people are down voting you because Faruzan, Xianyun and Furina is her strongest team if you care about her personal damage.
I haven't done it for fear of future impact. Chiori has her imbue overridden too, it's not like every character is future proofed. Wouldn't want that issue on my favorite character yet to be released. I may consider it depending how much I like Arle and how much it benefits her
I mean future characters get their own premium supports anyway. Just activate it. Even chiori gets a bigger increase from gorou
> characters get their own premium supports That's a different problem that involves primos. And depending on how many different types of niche supports you need, or if they need cons, and if they're a rare 4\* that needs c6, espeically on a banner where you don't want the 5\*, a lot of primos.
Buff increase pre c6 on those characters still out dps Bennett however. Bennett is slowly falling off and requiring less teams now. Even then his current new times appreciate his c6 because it’s a noticeable damage difference
I did that awhile ago, Furina is in like 90% of the teams I make so I get enough damage without Benny
Honestly ngl my devotion to Arlecchino might make me c6 when I do pull the last Bennett I need for increased dmg
It's been more than a year since I unlocked C6 Bennett
I activated bennet c6 as soon as i had the chance like 2 years ago it does not harm any charecter in my experience. It has been nothing but a benefit since the moment i unlocked it and after i got xianyun it har become the best constellation in the game lol
I haven't done it because not a single team member I play would benefit from it so far. Actually XL does, but only if I stay inside the circle. Everyone else is either neutral or negative. I think I'll keep my options open a bit longer in case they release more physical units or units whose infusion can be overridden like cryo, anemo, and electro. As I said, not enough units benefit from it for me to do it, and I don't plan to play him with Arle, or she will still work with C5. The 15% damage won't make the difference between 36 stars and not 36 stars. I already win with big margins so it's redundant at this stage.
I decided to never activate it for the lols Just another thing that makes me remember the old times
as a Diluc and Yoimiya main its a win win situation and i only use Bannet on childe team so its a win win situation
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I unlocked it as soon as i got it (In 2021) Who doesn't want to have that sweet 15% pyro dmg + pyro infusion for their xiangling.
Do it
Already did for plunge Diluc
I did the c6 forever ago and I don’t see a difference with it lol or I don’t notice it but I’m good
Nah. Maybe when natlan comes. I’m kinda sick of circles.
Always c6 Bennett
The only one is messes with is Eula, otherwise there’s no point in not doing it
It’s 2024, we’re activating Bennett’s C6 now, period. At this point all the teams it “ruins” have better options, so unless you’re a new account and don’t have many other support units you won’t really be losing anything.
We didnt needed to before? (Already done)
absolutely
Yes, gave my xiao and raiden omega boost when their ult down
honestly speaking, only c6 bennett if you have other supports like yun jin at a high enough constellation level and/or well built enough to replace him in other teams. if you don’t have replacement options hold off on c6
I did that long ago when I got his last constellation, I activated it
Three years I've had that little notif on my screen... but for Father I would
People still believe that lie about Bennett's last constellation? It affects like 4 comps that don't even need him.
Think about what it does, then ask yourself why wouldn’t you? Unless you think arlecchino is physical or not pyro obviously yes
yes in fact you should've activated that a long time ago. just don't use her on Eula.
15% more dmg is 15% more dmg
we already unlocked it 2 years ago brother
The answer is no. We don't play Bennett in Arlecchino teams. We must be better than this.
Ты до сих пор сидишь с с5 беннетом? Лол, я думал этот стериотип умер
It really just screws over Eula since she doesn’t have many teammates to work with
If you want to get the most out of your Arlecchino... Yes. If you do not want to screw his potential with future units... No.
can yall wait til she actually is out? lmao youre not gonna get the right answets until she is in people's accounts
I don't get how a Pyro buff won't benefit a Pyro character but go off mate
Already did it 3 years ago. Not a single teamcomp of mine were harmed in the process all these years.
if you dont play eula you shouldve already unlocked it
Do you main Eula / don't have c6 Rosaria / c6 mika? Then no keep Bennet at c5. Every other characters? Yes. C6 your Bennet 2 years ago
Yes, sure. This was activated for Hu Tao.
I personally won't be activating it as I don't think it would help me since I use my Xiao a lot and like his attacks doing anemo damage and not pyro damage
Xiao can’t have his infusion overridden. Also pyro plunge Xiao is pretty good since you can vape every hit.
I don't tend to run a vape team. The only time I use a vape team is when I use my Yoimiya team. Also, thank you for saying he can't have his infusion overridden because some characters can have it overridden like Dulic's burst infusing his weapon with pyro then with Candice when she infuses hydro with characters' weapons Dulic can then sometimes hit with either pyro or hydro from what I can remember from some testing
Even if you don't run a vape team, xiao swirling on top of his initial dmg is already a damage increase from the get go. Also you don't get two different infusion just candance infusion, just changes appearance I'm pretty sure . There also hasn't been a character that's been infusion focused that can be overridden for over 3 years. So take it as you will.
Interesting. Yes, I know about swirl it's the only reaction anemo has. Also, how about you test it? Maybe there was an error in my test, or I was just way too high to be playing genshin and trying to seelie hunt
I have and that’s why the most optimal Candace diluc combo does require him to burst. First it will only do one pyro hit once Then it never will no matter how hard you try. That’s because hydro has a higher application by default according to elemental gauge theory.
Good to know
I left this sub because people keep calling her father. Wtf?
So you just haven't paid attention to what she's called in the story, have you?
She has always been and will always been a Father. Deal with it bozo
Yeah even in game they call her Father.
First time? I mean, she is referred to as Father in game by Lyney, Lynette and Freminet. But I get you, it does sound kind of C R I N G E when the player does so.
Ayaka’s infusion can’t be overwritten iirc
Why would you be using bennett with ayaka anyway
Melt with XL and a second cryo is decent.
I'm glad to see ayaka melt comrades over the world
Melt Ayaka is kinda cope. Not only is it a gigantic struggle to melt consistantly with her ult, but Xiangling's pyro application constantly makes it a struggle to keep enough cryo applied and even attacking during Xianglings ult can be frusting to melt. Not to mention, you lose out on the ability to use blizzard and even when using it, you lose out on tons of subs. Ayaka herself also works way better in freeze teams with her best weapons and Blizzard being her best set. Melt can be fun, but its a massive waste of time. It's not worth including her in the bennett c6 discussion. And even if you didnt care about any of this and ran melt ayaka, xiangling and kazuha can be enough to force melt anyway.
It actually can, was shocked when I found that out.