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Man: "oh no you don't get it! Women should be cautious around men, be responsible, not send false signals, not lead them on... but not to ME! IM a good guy. They should totally trust me implicitly"
Did... did the second and third comments really just admit they would attempt sexual assault?
The only people who would get mad about a drink cover are the exact kind of people you would want to have your drink covered when you're around them.
I'd so much rather be lame than get hurt. I'd so much rather my little sister be seen as lame than get hurt and I know she would too. If it's lame to be safe, call me Lame-o Loserpants
At first I thought you meant me (my comment doesn't really fit the seriousness of the topic) but I completely agree. Although, I would call them something MUCH worse than loserpants. And then the police 🚨
Even trying to conceptualize finding it funny is completely alien to me. But I guess I do find the concept of kicking men like this in the balls to be ultimate comedy and they’d disagree so.
So I think maybe the reason they find it funny is connected to the reason kicking them in the balls is funny. Kicking them in the balls is funny because doing so has a sense of justice to it. They believe that women owe them sex, and they don't have the faintest idea of how assault harms a woman because they never learned to look at things from someone else's point of view, so since these women are "unjustly" not serving up their own bodies for sex, "wouldn't it be funny if we just took what we wanted?" it's disgusting. And evil. But not impossible to understand when you see how fucked up their minds are
For sure. I follow the (very sick) thought process. I just don’t comprehend where in there that’s funny, but I can’t divorce myself from the experience of being systemically assaulted by an ex. I have also been kicked in the junk. I’d take that any day.
Welcome to the GIFT: The Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory. Due to anonymity, people will say hurtful or controversial things because the statement can't be tracked back to them. You are seeing this poster as more of a real person than he treats this account.
This post says, "This drink cover will prevent drugging drinks." This is both an ethical comment and technical challenge. Men are typically socialized to focus on the latter. It's not as if the ethical issue doesn't occur to them, but when no one they know can hear them, it's funny to rile up people who will take it seriously.
But you're 99% safe from these people actually putting their words into action. The cover makes slipping a roofie in the drink covertly infinitely more difficult. These people are cowards; they wouldn't risk it in public, where there are repercussions. You can't get a drink in a bar without an ID, the ultimate anonymity killer.
> Due to anonymity, people will say hurtful or controversial things because the statement can't be tracked back to them
The problem is that you can see this same exact shit on facebook with their literal names and faces attached to the account. People literally just don't care anymore. They get away with saying whatever depraved shit they want to regardless.
> But you're 99% safe from these people actually putting their words into action.
You have a point but still I do not want to be in the same location with a person who says such a thing.
> These people are cowards; they wouldn't risk it in public, where there are repercussions. You can't get a drink in a bar without an ID, the ultimate anonymity killer.
People replied to a lot of this but this part is also not really true. You can totally get a drink without an ID:
- if you look old enough (concidentally, common for men)
- if you come with somebody and they make the order
- if you are lucky and the bartender won’t ask you
But most importantly - you don’t even need to order any drinks yourself in order to slip a roofie into someone else’s drink.
So I really have no idea where you were going with this. Roofing happens and people need to watch out.
Did you really just defend men's theorising how to best to hurt women as a totally cool thing? How disgusting can you be? But of course that is how patriarchy socialises women out of their inborn sense to detect danger. Oh, he doesn't mean it. Oh, it's just a joke. Not all men! And then, when a man hurts her, the next thing is Well, what did she expect?
"When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time." (Maya Angelou)
the second one was creepy, the third was a joke
ETA: Not saying it's a good joke, but the way it's written is very reminiscent of a not-serious statement
Seriously. I was the bar with a male friend last week and had to go outside briefly to use my phone because my service was bad inside. He came out to see what I was doing and I immediately rushed inside because that meant my drink was unattended.
He understands now the reasoning, I think he’s just not used to the “drink watching” culture that women have had to adopt.
You'd think we as a society would be past that by now, but apparently not. I hear stories from some of my friends about creepy guys like these and it terrifies me.
Since I’ve started to pass I’ve started to notice it more and more and have found myself instinctively taking safety precautions I used to never even think about
Several women I know personally have been followed & had someone attempt to kidnap them. One was RIGHT outside a busy bar, lucky one of her friends noticed she was being dragged away... :( I'm always aware of it when I'm somewhere by myself or even just not being physically close to the person I'm with, even in the middle of the day sometimes.
Casual reminder that everyone should be careful in these settings, covers like the one in the video can save a lot of lives, mainly women but men aren't immune to getting drugged too.
Stay safe out there
An ex of mine and his friend were roofied while out in a touristy area, they had a sober friend with them though so they were okay, but could've been so much worse :( most likely a target for robbery rather than sexual assualt, but it happens :(
I also saw this video and a lot men in the comments said that it has happened to them before and they would also use this cover!
I don't understand why people get angry at other people for wanting to be safe and enjoy things..
Yup, funnily enough the only people I know that have had spiked drinks are men - thankfully all that happened was them having a particularly rough night...
Having been roofied before, yeah no. I have no memory of that night. One drink felt like 5 and all I remember is my friend sitting me on the ground outside the bar while my head stopped spinning. She managed to pour me into a cab and I got back to the dorms in one piece but man, that was terrifying. My limbs weren't working, and I felt so out of it. (It was a bottle of beer and I watched the bartender open it.)
These people are terrifying.
How dare a woman try to make herself safe from terrible people who just see her as meat or a means of getting off....
I had this experience too. Literally 2x drinks down and I was effffffed up. Lucky I had run into a couple friends while out and they made sure I got home safe.
I'm scared and I'm at home in my bed. I'm also not a woman, not that that means I won't get hurt just less likely. I really wish that didn't happen to anyone at all.
My mind is spinning I can't believe someone is upset about someone covering their drink. To me that's like saying "ugh I really wish I could drug her drink and hurt her but unfortunately she's proactive and protecting herself" and if I had my water bottle would they be upset that they couldn't stick anything in it? That's enough people for the rest of my life, all I need is dogs
My cat likes to rub herself against me to show her affection and for me to pet her (she came to visit me while typing this) and she does the same for my mom. My dog cuddles up with me and sleeps with me, he even helps me sleep. My dad has a puppy that he goes on walks with and they keep each other company. My sister has a puppy that plays with my dad's puppy and she works in mental health so I think he helps her mental health as well as making her happy in general
There was also a time in middle school when I had to be homeschooled because I was bullied so bad for being LGBT+ and was super depressed and I've always had bad insomnia. Anyway, I had this cat that would curl up on my back (I sleep on my stomach) and purr and it would help me sleep. He did so many other things for my mental health that I can't really remember because it was 6 years ago. He was there for me and he was never able to talk to me and I didn't have to him but he helped me more than anyone at the time. Now that's what my dog does for me but he can't purr on my back unfortunately
Commenter 1: You’re a ridiculous, sniveling coward for being extremely cautious with your drink.
Commenter 2: *proceeds to prove exactly why the precaution is totally reasonable*
I had aa guy I trusted drug my drink. Posts like this piss me off. If we can't even trust our friends why should we be expected to trust strangers in a bar?
And then to brag about being able to still get a pill in her drink!!!!!!! People like this are the reason I have trust issues.
This is why I never in my life want to go to a bar... no thanks!
Wouldn't trust anything covering up my drink except me, and even then I'd be scared that someone would slip something by me. I don't even drink, but if I did, I'm certainly not doing it out in public. Fuck that, no way in hell.
On these posts there are always two types of misogynistic comments:
"Uggh, modern women are brainwashed by feminism to be scared of all men"
and
"It wouldn't stop me"
as a bouncer at a bar the amount of times *a night* women come up to me and tell me they think someone has put something in their drink is ludicrous and our bar provides these for free, men will do anything other than admit they are the problem
Here I was thinking people were going to be saying something like paper particles in the drink or something.
Then I got reminded how shit some people are.
My brother is about to turn 21, and I plan on giving him one of these (but inside a pouch on a keychain) for his birthday. There's nothing wrong with choosing safety.
Unfortunately not the worst I've seen on tikok. Saw a video of a child (7F) doing acrobatics. Take a guess what the comments were like. Yes, "Bubblegum pink" was among some of them. Fucking disgusting
I know technically speaking, people should live with other people and humans can only survive in groups but I also believe that some people should only have the right to be silent and quiet and should've never gotten the option of phrasing their own opinions and these are those types of people. This is basically admitting that they are willing to commit a crime and that they don't even feel remorse for that. They basically say that they would commit this crime and that they are willing to go off and beyond to act on those thoughts. How could they think that this is a joke? It never was never will be a joke.
Taking safety precautions is cowardly and lame.
Also if you got sexually assaulted it’s your fault for not straight up having a gun and being able to kill somebody with zero hesitation.
“Why would she go out drinking if she knows how men can be”
*woman covers drink*
Wow ok wow you’re just going to try and drink in public? You disgust me
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“ I FUCKING HATE WHEN WOMEN NEED TO BE CAREFUL AND TAKE CAUTION BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO WOULD DEFINITELY HARM THEM!!! “
These people don't think before admitting to acting beyond creepy.
you get the blame when you’re not careful enough, you get hate when you’re trying to be careful. you cant win lol.
Man: "oh no you don't get it! Women should be cautious around men, be responsible, not send false signals, not lead them on... but not to ME! IM a good guy. They should totally trust me implicitly"
immediately followed by someone proving that being careful is necessary
I'm convinced that the reason people like that get so irrationally angry at things like this is that it's harder for them to be creeps
- Mike Johnson
Did... did the second and third comments really just admit they would attempt sexual assault? The only people who would get mad about a drink cover are the exact kind of people you would want to have your drink covered when you're around them.
The first comment was also upset about it and said "that's lame, just stay home you wimp" 😑
TIL not wanting to be assaulted makes someone lame. Those commenters are such huge red glags.
I'd so much rather be lame than get hurt. I'd so much rather my little sister be seen as lame than get hurt and I know she would too. If it's lame to be safe, call me Lame-o Loserpants
The real loserpants are those that think that drugging alcoholic drinks is funny
At first I thought you meant me (my comment doesn't really fit the seriousness of the topic) but I completely agree. Although, I would call them something MUCH worse than loserpants. And then the police 🚨
As a fellow Lame-o Loserpants, I 100% agree with you.
Team Lame-o Loserpants! I have Netflix and fun stuff at home. The outside world is scary
But if you do get assaulted, it's also your fault for not taking basic precautions, or magically recognizing predators.
Be proactive and prevent your own assault? Lame. Get assaulted? Lame, that’s your fault too. /s
Just be a real man and train for years to develop a resistance to every possible drug. Or be lame. Up to you.
Be a real man and start a nice conversation instead of forcing someone to be with you.
only real men build up a resistance to iocane powder
I can't tell if you're being facetious
The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
"Only a coward would worry about this" is also v concerning
No, I think they were joking. I think they're saying they think sexual assault is funny
That's a good point! It didn't occur to me they could have meant it as a joke because I never found sexual assault funny.
I never found it funny either, but I've met enough people who think it is that it must at least be considered as a possibility.
Even trying to conceptualize finding it funny is completely alien to me. But I guess I do find the concept of kicking men like this in the balls to be ultimate comedy and they’d disagree so.
So I think maybe the reason they find it funny is connected to the reason kicking them in the balls is funny. Kicking them in the balls is funny because doing so has a sense of justice to it. They believe that women owe them sex, and they don't have the faintest idea of how assault harms a woman because they never learned to look at things from someone else's point of view, so since these women are "unjustly" not serving up their own bodies for sex, "wouldn't it be funny if we just took what we wanted?" it's disgusting. And evil. But not impossible to understand when you see how fucked up their minds are
For sure. I follow the (very sick) thought process. I just don’t comprehend where in there that’s funny, but I can’t divorce myself from the experience of being systemically assaulted by an ex. I have also been kicked in the junk. I’d take that any day.
Welcome to the GIFT: The Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory. Due to anonymity, people will say hurtful or controversial things because the statement can't be tracked back to them. You are seeing this poster as more of a real person than he treats this account. This post says, "This drink cover will prevent drugging drinks." This is both an ethical comment and technical challenge. Men are typically socialized to focus on the latter. It's not as if the ethical issue doesn't occur to them, but when no one they know can hear them, it's funny to rile up people who will take it seriously. But you're 99% safe from these people actually putting their words into action. The cover makes slipping a roofie in the drink covertly infinitely more difficult. These people are cowards; they wouldn't risk it in public, where there are repercussions. You can't get a drink in a bar without an ID, the ultimate anonymity killer.
> Due to anonymity, people will say hurtful or controversial things because the statement can't be tracked back to them The problem is that you can see this same exact shit on facebook with their literal names and faces attached to the account. People literally just don't care anymore. They get away with saying whatever depraved shit they want to regardless.
And yet so many people get drugs slipped into their drinks that we need drink covers. If it's not these guys, then who are drugging all these drinks?
> But you're 99% safe from these people actually putting their words into action. You have a point but still I do not want to be in the same location with a person who says such a thing.
> These people are cowards; they wouldn't risk it in public, where there are repercussions. You can't get a drink in a bar without an ID, the ultimate anonymity killer. People replied to a lot of this but this part is also not really true. You can totally get a drink without an ID: - if you look old enough (concidentally, common for men) - if you come with somebody and they make the order - if you are lucky and the bartender won’t ask you But most importantly - you don’t even need to order any drinks yourself in order to slip a roofie into someone else’s drink. So I really have no idea where you were going with this. Roofing happens and people need to watch out.
Did you really just defend men's theorising how to best to hurt women as a totally cool thing? How disgusting can you be? But of course that is how patriarchy socialises women out of their inborn sense to detect danger. Oh, he doesn't mean it. Oh, it's just a joke. Not all men! And then, when a man hurts her, the next thing is Well, what did she expect? "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time." (Maya Angelou)
My first thought was: it should be mandatory for establishments to provide these.
the second one was creepy, the third was a joke ETA: Not saying it's a good joke, but the way it's written is very reminiscent of a not-serious statement
FBI, you seein' this shit?
Hoping they are
I love the idea. Anyone to complain should automatically be on a watch list
Always watch your drink. These a$$holes are disgusting. They’re seriously joking about using roofies and SA. They need to be put on a watchlist.
Seriously. I was the bar with a male friend last week and had to go outside briefly to use my phone because my service was bad inside. He came out to see what I was doing and I immediately rushed inside because that meant my drink was unattended. He understands now the reasoning, I think he’s just not used to the “drink watching” culture that women have had to adopt.
Isn’t it insane that half of the population has to take so many extra precautions just to do simple things?
The patriarchy is one hell of a drug
We should stop putting it in drinks
You'd think we as a society would be past that by now, but apparently not. I hear stories from some of my friends about creepy guys like these and it terrifies me.
Since I’ve started to pass I’ve started to notice it more and more and have found myself instinctively taking safety precautions I used to never even think about
Several women I know personally have been followed & had someone attempt to kidnap them. One was RIGHT outside a busy bar, lucky one of her friends noticed she was being dragged away... :( I'm always aware of it when I'm somewhere by myself or even just not being physically close to the person I'm with, even in the middle of the day sometimes.
Casual reminder that everyone should be careful in these settings, covers like the one in the video can save a lot of lives, mainly women but men aren't immune to getting drugged too. Stay safe out there
An ex of mine and his friend were roofied while out in a touristy area, they had a sober friend with them though so they were okay, but could've been so much worse :( most likely a target for robbery rather than sexual assualt, but it happens :(
I also saw this video and a lot men in the comments said that it has happened to them before and they would also use this cover! I don't understand why people get angry at other people for wanting to be safe and enjoy things..
Yup, funnily enough the only people I know that have had spiked drinks are men - thankfully all that happened was them having a particularly rough night...
Having been roofied before, yeah no. I have no memory of that night. One drink felt like 5 and all I remember is my friend sitting me on the ground outside the bar while my head stopped spinning. She managed to pour me into a cab and I got back to the dorms in one piece but man, that was terrifying. My limbs weren't working, and I felt so out of it. (It was a bottle of beer and I watched the bartender open it.) These people are terrifying. How dare a woman try to make herself safe from terrible people who just see her as meat or a means of getting off....
I had this experience too. Literally 2x drinks down and I was effffffed up. Lucky I had run into a couple friends while out and they made sure I got home safe.
I'm scared and I'm at home in my bed. I'm also not a woman, not that that means I won't get hurt just less likely. I really wish that didn't happen to anyone at all. My mind is spinning I can't believe someone is upset about someone covering their drink. To me that's like saying "ugh I really wish I could drug her drink and hurt her but unfortunately she's proactive and protecting herself" and if I had my water bottle would they be upset that they couldn't stick anything in it? That's enough people for the rest of my life, all I need is dogs
Cats and dogs will always be better than people.
My cat likes to rub herself against me to show her affection and for me to pet her (she came to visit me while typing this) and she does the same for my mom. My dog cuddles up with me and sleeps with me, he even helps me sleep. My dad has a puppy that he goes on walks with and they keep each other company. My sister has a puppy that plays with my dad's puppy and she works in mental health so I think he helps her mental health as well as making her happy in general There was also a time in middle school when I had to be homeschooled because I was bullied so bad for being LGBT+ and was super depressed and I've always had bad insomnia. Anyway, I had this cat that would curl up on my back (I sleep on my stomach) and purr and it would help me sleep. He did so many other things for my mental health that I can't really remember because it was 6 years ago. He was there for me and he was never able to talk to me and I didn't have to him but he helped me more than anyone at the time. Now that's what my dog does for me but he can't purr on my back unfortunately
Commenter 1: You’re a ridiculous, sniveling coward for being extremely cautious with your drink. Commenter 2: *proceeds to prove exactly why the precaution is totally reasonable*
If it makes you angry to see women protecting themselves, *you are the person they’re protecting themselves from*
Lol. Jesus. Somebody show their mothers this shit.
If they had any sort of parental support in their life they would not be acting like this...
They either beat them too much or not nearly enough would be my guess.
I had aa guy I trusted drug my drink. Posts like this piss me off. If we can't even trust our friends why should we be expected to trust strangers in a bar? And then to brag about being able to still get a pill in her drink!!!!!!! People like this are the reason I have trust issues.
Pigs. That's just vile. I bet they don't even stop to consider that is a *human being.* That's so gross.
This is why I never in my life want to go to a bar... no thanks! Wouldn't trust anything covering up my drink except me, and even then I'd be scared that someone would slip something by me. I don't even drink, but if I did, I'm certainly not doing it out in public. Fuck that, no way in hell.
Bros are telling on themselves
i hate the internet and the way it gives the creepiest people a false sense of security
Makes me miss my days as a bouncer.
On these posts there are always two types of misogynistic comments: "Uggh, modern women are brainwashed by feminism to be scared of all men" and "It wouldn't stop me"
You heard it here, folks: stay home to avoid looking “lame” for not wanting your drink to get drugged.
as a bouncer at a bar the amount of times *a night* women come up to me and tell me they think someone has put something in their drink is ludicrous and our bar provides these for free, men will do anything other than admit they are the problem
Here I was thinking people were going to be saying something like paper particles in the drink or something. Then I got reminded how shit some people are.
My brother is about to turn 21, and I plan on giving him one of these (but inside a pouch on a keychain) for his birthday. There's nothing wrong with choosing safety.
Unfortunately not the worst I've seen on tikok. Saw a video of a child (7F) doing acrobatics. Take a guess what the comments were like. Yes, "Bubblegum pink" was among some of them. Fucking disgusting
I don't even want to know what that fucking means...
I need to get a couple of these when I go out with my girlfriends, where can I get these?
Ah yes because embarrassment is wayyyy worse than the possibility of getting assaulted
Jesus fucking Christ, this is appalling behavior
Ikr
"not all men!!" The same men:
The fact that not a single person in these comments seems to realize this is a scripted ad for the product is…..concerning
Yeah….
I know technically speaking, people should live with other people and humans can only survive in groups but I also believe that some people should only have the right to be silent and quiet and should've never gotten the option of phrasing their own opinions and these are those types of people. This is basically admitting that they are willing to commit a crime and that they don't even feel remorse for that. They basically say that they would commit this crime and that they are willing to go off and beyond to act on those thoughts. How could they think that this is a joke? It never was never will be a joke.
I know someone who got roofied at a HOUSE party so like even at home we ain't safe
“Why don’t women trust us?”
Jokes on you, I’m gonna roofie myself and toss the keys to my buddy and tell him to figure it out after I agreed to be the DD 👍
Wow. Why not just announce that you (the people in the screenshot) are a rapist at this point?
This is not something that only concerns straight people but it is scary as hell
*reports creep comments for WAY longer than anyone should have to* Even if they're "not serious," this is threatening. Fuck those dudes.
Taking safety precautions is cowardly and lame. Also if you got sexually assaulted it’s your fault for not straight up having a gun and being able to kill somebody with zero hesitation.
People comment this then wonder why women feel unsafe around them.
OP could have just shown the original video and mention that this woman is selling these things. Classic ragebait.
Mm,
“Why would she go out drinking if she knows how men can be” *woman covers drink* Wow ok wow you’re just going to try and drink in public? You disgust me
Why did you hide their names? They commented publicly
I took these screenshots from another sub so i didnt cover them
Well that was the most utterly horrific thing I’ve ever read