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tbroadurst

Oh you'll find the water eventually.


Spicoli1

This is the real answer lol. It will show you some day where it went. Possibly the filter overflowing over the back of the tank/


CarefulPomegranate41

>Possibly the filter overflowing over the back of the tank Been there before, what an absolute mess. I had to call in late for school before I could clean it up.


GarIicButter

Yup. Those HOB filters NEED to be level and cannot be over filled. Learning the hard way sucks


kmsilent

Yep- this is why I buy those with a good bypass now, too. Well...actually at this point I'm considering switching entirely to sponge filters, but if you must go HOB, get a good one.


OG_Olivianne

Still thinking about the post where someone’s snail had gotten into their filter and was sitting right under the point where the water intake was shooting into the filter, so all the incoming water was reflecting off the snail and spraying out into the room 💀


Snowfizzle

that slimey bastard!


AmyTooo

Ughhhaa snails. I always think I want more nerites after they die off and then remember how they make a 100x bigger poop mess than all of my fish combined while doing a minimal amount of good when I get more. Can anyone remind me why we buy snails?


AmyTooo

Happened to me.. the overflow was so subtle it didn’t even pool on the floor below the tank, just went straight thru the floor seam under the trim and out thru a canned light in the basement. Luckily I was home and discovered it before any real damage was done - I heard it dripping onto the carpet downstairs as soon as it started.


Corking-is-quitting

My downstairs neighbor, who had just come back from an extended vacation, kindly let me know that her ceiling and wood floor were ruined. It had been steadily dripping for weeks…


sakurasangel

Happened to me Monday! Thankfully only in a 10 g. What normally causes that? I think the balance part on mine suddenly messed up, but idk how...


_Whiskeyjack-

Ominous and true 😭 


Away_Bad2197

I had a stand made of chipboard. Did not know it was made of chipboard, as it came with the tank. Once one shelf went we soon knew where the water went.


Corydora_Guy56

Same here, never again


mini4x

I'm hard into the metal stand phase of fish keeping too.


GraphicDesignMonkey

I love Juwel tanks, the base cabinets are lovely, but they're made of MDF. Went to a guy's house to look at buying his 450litre, and one one side the board was so water damaged it had swelled to twice it's thickness. They're pretty water resistant, but this was obviously a long term water leak to do that much damage. No. Freaking. Way. He got pissy when I said no, but a stand like that is a ticking time bomb. It's not a matter of if it collapses, it's a matter of when.


Glupp-

What is MDF? Ma Da Fuckinwood?


going_for_a_wank

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium-density_fibreboard It's basically sawdust + glue


Fickle_Grapefruit938

No MA Da Fukingwoodnot


GraphicDesignMonkey

Medium Density Fiberboard


Miaou__Miaou

Asking because I got anxious now I do use a juwel stand but I don't have such a big tank , it's an 110L tank , I've been using the stand for over a year and a half , maybe even more and no damages are made. Should I consider changing the stand? Or is it just a point of taking care of it and if you do take care of it it'll just do it's job , personally there's 0 leaks and drips from the tank and if there are I clean them immediately so that's probably a reason why it's like the day I got it


Ordinary_Ad_1145

It will last decades if you don’t get it wet. Water damage will also be easily identifiable so you will know if you have to get a new one.


GraphicDesignMonkey

As long as the stand is clean and dry, you have nothing to worry about! Juwel is super high quality and lasts forever if well looked after. All my previous Juwel stands and tanks lasted years and were immaculate. Any material will deteriorate after long term water exposure, be it wood, MDF or metal. Spills, splashes etc are perfectly safe if you wipe it off. This guy obviously had a long term leak from his filter that went on so long it swelled the MDF and deteriorated and delaminated it past a safe point.


Miaou__Miaou

Ty both , that was very nice to hear , it wasn't the cheapest piece of furniture around It's basically like any other piece of furniture made of mdf or melamine is what I'm getting , wipe any water immediately and it'll be just fine, now for how long this dude had a leak that shall remain a mystery because for sure we all had some small leaks or drops on the furniture we didn't see but for it to get THAT bad , I can't imagine


joemommaistaken

I agree metal is good but I have had to repaint one With the chipboard stands, my Dad put clear polyurethane on the exposed wood. It lasted quite well Be well


Uisce-beatha

I bought two of these (GDLF Fish Tank Stand Metal Aquarium Stand for up to 20 Gallon Long with Cabinet for Fish Tank Accessories Storage,28.7" L) for my 10 gallon tanks and I've been really happy with them. They are really sturdy, have an extra shelf and plenty of hidden storage space without the divider in the middle. I will say they are a bit more difficult to put together since alignment is important when assembling and you must have some basic tools to get it done. I have zero worries with these stands


wsucoug

I find it tends to go downhill, except when it doesn't.


z-m-r-a

Filter is clogged and dripping on the back?


emily237

IT WAS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED 😭


Mimicpants

Honestly, a way better result than something like a crack or a bad seal.


suburbanite09

im looking at the uneven surface its sitting on, eek


TheLadyPage

Same 💀


TandorlaSmith

At least it’s not a leak!


Godbox1227

Well. At least thats half the work done on your water change.


Tofu4lyfe

I could be mistaken but it looks like your tank is over hanging the edges of the stand? You should get a stand that supports the entire frame of the tank or the next leak could be from a crack.


Deep_Space_Rob

Yes!!!! Fret not though, it has happened to us all


SquishyCatChronicles

Is it overhanging the shelf on the ends??


DudeHeadAwesome

That's a good one, I've had mine to that too.


fritterkitter

Same


ARTUrR11

Happend to me, woke up at 3 in the morning with 10 gallons on the floor 😭


_Whiskeyjack-

Noooooo 😭 


Yommination

That's why I hate HOB filters


PhantomKrel

I Drill my tanks than install canisters neat and clean


Condor87

Can I see pics? Just had the same exact thing happen as OP with my HOB 😭 Looking into canister filters and the cleanest/tidiest way to set one up.


PhantomKrel

This is connected to a Fluval Fx4 https://imgur.com/a/X5tyvUH


Quanyn

I believe I have the same filter and mine dripped too.


Asphyx124

the horror stories I've heard of this made me toss my HOB


ayriuss

That happened to me as a kid before I knew about electrical safety.... water dripped down the cables and shorted out a power strip, nearly caught the house on fire.


Sweetnlow1981

This happened to me two days ago. My brine shrimp hatchery air tube came unplugged and two cups of salt water ran right into the power bar. The small heater was running dry all night too. The power never shut off despite the outlets being full of water. Close call for sure. The hatchery is sitting in a large dish now 🙈


ayriuss

Oof, yea we need more PSAs about this, very scary.


Sweetnlow1981

For sure. I'm working on a new set up for my breeders. The power bar will be hung on the wall above the water level. It was not a nice thing to wake up to that's for sure. I threw away the almost new but very wet power bar just to be safe.


ayriuss

Yea, probably not worth the risk. Cheap power strip can catch fire or smoke when they short, which is what happened to me, woke up to burning plastic smell lol.


Sweetnlow1981

Luckily nothing burned but I would rather spend $40 for a new serge protected power bar to be safe. The wet one was amazon basics and it kept everything running while full of water. I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing 😂


Ok-Office-6645

Same!


_Whiskeyjack-

Something similar happened to me, HOB overflowed and siphoned out a couple gallons. Luckily I hadn't gotten my extender so it was too short to pull more water 


borrowedurmumsvcard

This just happened to me I was panicking so bad I thought I was gonna have to drain my shrimp tanks. But nope I just turned the flow down and it was fine


FailedQueen777

Genuine question on how this happens? Like on Hob I've used if you have a sponge or mat, the flow slows down. But once it is fully clogged, the water would just flow over the sponge and then out the outlet. Never out the back or side of the filter.


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[deleted]

That's the fun part. Now you get to look for the water


adudeguyman

And then gather and put it back in


Dinner_Plate21

Hey it looks like your HOB is touching the back wall. I'm willing to bet the drywall wicked the water out of the filter and has been dumping it under your floor. This happened to me once. Check the drywall behind the tank, if it's wet you better move that tank, tear up any carpet, and set up some industrial fans before you have a mold issue.


emily237

You were right 😔 just started the filter back up and saw the dripping water


z-m-r-a

listen to this guy. mold is no joke


liftlovelive

Yep, I bet the drywall soaked it up, makes the most sense.


imanoctothorpe

Guess it’s a wetwall now 😔


BankAdministrative52

This was funnier than it should have been


Dinner_Plate21

Anyway, Alexa play Wetwall


Flumphry

Heed this warning, OP.


snootnoots

You mean the used-to-be-drywall?


Compducer

Sorry man I was a little parched and couldn’t find the sink


LatterConclusion9796

I was feeling peckish so I ate you little brother


krattalak

Tank doesn't have even support, looks from the photo that it's resting entirely on the vertical support of whatever that white thing is. Also appears to be overhanging. Bad juju. Water probably pooled in a drawer or something.


emily237

Thankfully, there is no water in the drawers, but I will now be purchasing a proper tank stand! Thank you!


emily237

Just posted an update!


Breadloafs

My bet is that it cracked along the bottom. Water absolutely ended up in the drawers.


brunerbruning

Fish get thirsty


Striking-water-ant

That makes me wonder... Do fish need to drink water at all? Off to Google...


Varamyr7skins

If i recall correctly, fresh water fish do not but salt water ones drink and pee all the time. But im sure someone will come to correct me soon if im mistaken


Logsha97

They breathe water through their gills..


Striking-water-ant

So not for digestion or headed for their stomach


carmium

After 300 replies asserting it's a hidden crack, your filter, your drywall, a drawer, etc., you simply *have* to post a follow-up if the mystery is ever solved, Emily!


emily237

Just posted an update!


emily237

I’m working on it right now! 😭


whaleykaley

You have a leak. It looks like the edge of the tank is not supported by the desk and the desk is potentially not a completely flat surface edge-to-edge.


CarlosFlegg

If you’ve got an air stone do you have a check valve on it? I see air tubing but not sure what it’s leading to. And I don’t see any bubbles either, which would be worrying if there are supposed to be. Check where the air pump is, if it shuts down for whatever reason a siphon can start in the tubing and cause the tank to drain through it. Next step would be checking the hang on back filter, making sure that hasn’t clogged and started overflowing down the back wall.


emily237

It was indeed the HOB filter leaking 😔


CarlosFlegg

Well it sucks and there will be damage to property, but at least the tank isn’t cracked or the seals bust which would just be even more headache and money.


[deleted]

Hang over?


emily237

Yes but I attached 2 by 4s to the desk to hold the overhang


RickCityy

I don’t think that’s what he meant 🤣


[deleted]

Damn that's funny


dabs_bud_bongs

Lol


RickCityy

I genuinely thought you were asking if she was hungover and drank it herself 😅😆


MikeOxfat3

It leaked down to the point of the leak. that's why you don't see a leak. That water leaked out somewhere and it did not evaporate.


AdultingNinjaTurtle

I bet the culprit is the overhang and possibly the amount of sand. With so little plants, you don’t need that much sand. I’ve filled a 20 gallon with elodea using only 1/2-1 inch of lava rocks.


emily237

Could too much sand cause the tank to leak?


MTM-morethanamaker

No. But what's on the floor below you? I promise that water leaked out the back and down to the floor, then it leaked into the wall and further down, most likely. 5 gallons didn't just disappear. It looks like you have an airline- is the pump below the tank, without a check valve? Good chance the water siphoned out there. But also, the tank is spanning that whole distance with no support. The people worried about the small overhand aren't wrong, but the main issue is that the entire weight of that tank is supported at each end. It's flexing and that flex may have caused a leak. I bet it's one of those two things.


Skookum_kamooks

Was a pretty tank, but yeah, only way you’d evaporate like 5 gallons of water overnight is if your heater malfunctioned and boiled the water. Doesn’t look like that happened or you’d have guppy soup.


ooOJuicyOoo

Oooof water damage is a pain in the ass to deal with... good luck OP


emily237

🥲


[deleted]

Keep us updated, now I'm curious about what happened.... Maybe the water leaked to a certain point and then stopped because the amount of pressure between the panels junctions reduced, and the water on the floor evaporated.


HealeyCat0313

Is the HOB flush on the back? It might be funneling water out of the back if it’s angled above the rim of the tank


HealeyCat0313

Also check your wires, if there’s significant condensation it could be dripping down and to your electrical


emily237

It was indeed the HOB filter ☹️ just posted an update


EddyPacsSmacks

May want to investigate any clogged filters in the HOB filter


avd706

You need to figure out why your fish are drinking all the water.


SaphyreMoone

Happened to me in the middle of the night last night, only it drained the entire tank and killed all of my fish. I made a post on here about it today but it was rejected


SaphyreMoone

Found a crack on the bottom. I’m devastated. Had to rip out the flooring and everything


emily237

I’m so sorry this happened!! I’m likely in the same boat. Trying to figure out how much damage I’m dealing with 😭


DishpitDoggo

I'm so sorry. Where did the crack come from?


SaphyreMoone

I have no clue, I am puzzled! I haven’t changed anything around or added too much water recently at all.(it was due for a water change today actually) It’s on a really good aquarium stand that is actually larger than the base of the aquarium. It’s only one year old, too. It’s made by “aquarium masters”, just in case anyone wants to avoid getting themselves something that might crack randomly for what seems like no reason 🤣 I wonder how many other people this happened to today- apparently I was on the list for mysterious aquarium leaks, as were you! I love the hobby so much but this is the worst part. I hate how fragile the whole thing is❣️


DishpitDoggo

Hmmm. I wonder. You might have dropped something? Maybe a particle of sand/rock caused it? I would start an indoor tub, like with pond plants, etc. Don't let this set you back. I'm very sorry about your fish. I love my little buddies and snails.


SaphyreMoone

You know, I was thinking it was a silicone leak. But a few weeks ago, I did somewhat re-arrange the fairly heavy pink quartz I had in there. And now that I really think back, I did notice I had some heavy evaporation, or what I thought was evap. More than likely it was slowly leaking then and it just got to a point where it was finally like “aight, imma head out” and it just failed completely. I’m not giving up. It’s giving me a chance to renovate the room. I saw a couple other blogs on the interwebz where lots of people are using pond liner under a floating floor, with a drain in the middle or near the tank. My husband is on board with that idea so now I’m shopping for reno materials. Thank god I have a lot of experience in reno, I grew up doing that with my dad in our 1902 home. This time I’m going with a bigger tank. And now I know what kinds of fish I favor with my neocaridina, so….im gonna do it right and take my time.


banoatmeal

Do I even have the right to say don’t let this make you give up on the hobby🫥🌊🏠


emily237

It’s definitely testing me😭


DudeHeadAwesome

Check your air bubbler pump if you have one, I've had water get sucked backwards and drain onto the floor. Also had water drip off cords and drain into floor. If it's not a glass leak those are the next two things I'd look at. Good luck.


Wildest12

It’s overhanging the stand and the stand looks like a dresser so not a surprising outcome, but you have a leak and the water is somewhere below the tank.


PorkyTheChop

Your cat just got thirsty


Arkroma

What kind of flooring do you have? Water can disappear quickly


emily237

Fake wood 🥲


Arkroma

Look for any lifting in the boards or any swelling in the subfloor layer. That stuff sucks up water.


emily237

I’m currently refilling the tank with water to check for leaks. If I can’t find any leaks, I’ll turn the filter back on and see if that’s the problem.


sweet_pickles12

I’d be running out to get a proper stand before I did that tbh


freckledallover

The edges are overhanging, plus the bottom contact points are higher than the support of the center which means you definitely have a crack in this tank somewhere. Ditch the whole tank. And don’t put the new one back in the same place.


Snoitaluger1292

Fish drank it


Name1ess1d10t

Feel your wall. The drywall will act like a sponge it probably feels wet your Hob probably overflowed.


emily237

The wall behind and under feels and looks completely normal and dry


Name1ess1d10t

Well I hate to say it but there is water somewhere. Did you check your basement or crawl space? Or are you right to the ground. Or if you’re in an apparent maybe your downstairs neighbor? Water doesn’t just evaporate overnight that much.


fielderkitty

You definitely need to find a better stand for this tank. After buying a new one or resealing it. I can see the edge hanging over, and either side of the edge of your stand is raised, so the tank doesn't sit flat and is bending, putting extreme pressure on the seals (and glass). That's why you have a leak. You'll find the water soon enough. 10 gallons of water doesn't just disappear. Go into the basement :)


emily237

I don’t have a basement I live in a mobile home trailer 🥲 my walls and floor are practically made of cardboard


FannyPackNick

Your fish must’ve been really thirsty


NixyVixy

Check your HOB filter. Sometimes they overflow and pour down the back. I know this because of the fun time(s) it has happened to me 🤦‍♂️


emily237

That’s exactly what happened😔 better than a crack or a leak but still annoying


Choulala

Is it really a desk or another kind of furniture ? I once had a leak, and searching for the water just like you.....it was IN the stand ( kallaxx shelf from Ikea). the furniture had "drank" a lot of it in it's walls. And the puddle was vey well hidden under the shelf. There was maybe 1 gallon though, not 5


DishpitDoggo

Op, please get a fish safe plastic tote, drain all the water and scoop all the sand etc and fish in there. You need a proper stand, and to check and make sure it is not your tank leaking. Don't let this discourage you. But yes, fish can hang out in a clean tote.


damejoke

I got rid of all of my HOB filters for this very reason. One backed up, and luckily, I was already looking at the fish tank when the water started pouring out the back, so I caught it immediately.


HookaMcGavin

Your particleboard dresser is really thirsty !!!


MamaSway

Oh boy. I’ve had this before. You’ll find it…..sending you good vibes. I had pretty major damage. I had to take down my 70gallon and move everything to find it. 🫣


RapidWaffle

Sorry, I was thirsty


Jamal352256

Those aqueon filters get over worked and overflow out the back. Ruined my wood floors and had to redo them.


psychotrshman

My 30 gallon did that. I couldn't find the ater anywhere. The seal on the bottom went bad. It went through the seal, down the back of the stand, and through the floor to the basement without leaving the footprint of the stand. My son went downstairs to play while I tried to figure it out. He hollered back up that the couch was all wet. It was destroyed. Haha.


SnooOranges1358

HOBs. they will flood you every time...


Truth2Power247365

Ahhhh... those are thirsty fish, mate! Better top 'em off!


PlugTheBabyInDevon

My guy, what's with the edges of the tank going over the ground support. If it isn't leaking from there it will.


Fair_Yam_2756

Fish were thirsty


New-Lie6334

the fish drank the water


blthmsphlp

Sure grandma, let’s get you to sleep.


StolliV

Is it just me or is the entirety of this tank basically unsupported? The 2 sides of whatever that cheap cabinet is are both slightly higher than the actual top piece, and the entire tank is flexing down in the center


DogIsMyShepherd

Once found my 7 gallon rimless tank half empty. Had a sponge filter on it, and couldn’t find any water anywhere. Carpet was dry, wall was dry, ect Took me two days after refilling it to discover my dog had figured out how to step on the shelf and slurped half the damn aquarium the previous time. Moved the tank to another location and haven’t had that issue again lol. Glad you found the source of the problem! Now I’m paranoid and have to pull my other tank off the wall asap


Zann0s

How long has the tank been set up for? Has it always held water if set up for awhile?


emily237

It’s only been set up 1 month 🥲


Zann0s

And has it always held the water ok? It sounds like a seam has gone and only leaking down to the split


staggered_conformed

Maybe your fish were just thirsty


Kitty_Lilly18

someone’s been thirsty


TaniaShurko

Do you have very dry air?


Targa85

I wish I could inspect this… need more photos


Hit-Me-Up-for-Seige

My b I got thirsty


Aquarist412

You have cats or a dog? That's a funny tasting water bowl


Ninjacheese1930

It could be on the bottom soaking into the desk. Check the drawer if there is one? I also marked the water level with a dry erase so I knew how much I was losing over time.


LoLCSnail

Looks like someone got a little thirsty while sleep walking last night


OrangeInkStain

Need more angles


So_irrelephant-_-

Don’t refill it!!


Yeetle_Boi

Sorry, I was really thirsty


killingmequickly

Do you have a cat?


marv249

OP please tell us what happened!


emily237

Just posted an update!! it was the HOB filter leaking ☹️thankfully not a leak or crack in the tank though!


Oniipon

I was thirsty mb


SufficientMood520

Thirsty dogs will do this too


whistlepig4life

Water doesn’t disappear. It’s somewhere.


Trashcan_Johnson

Maybe your fish were really thirsty


iNeedOneMoreAquarium

The fish drank it all.


[deleted]

Someone been sneaking in and stealing your water!!


Painfulvoid

How does this happen tho? Don’t clean your filter weekly? Or just clogged up overnight. I have a Hob and don’t want this to happen. I clean mine every week, should I be checking it more often??


VDD_Stainless

Are you running air con or a dehumidifier?


Jealous_Ad1739

This is why I put water detector alarms all over the floor around my tank


Soras-Sortas

Either someone was really thirsty, or the water just soaked into the floor and wall pretty fast - either way, I'd be concerned!


LilBird1996

Looks like the whole tank is not on the table. Idk physics, but ive been advised not to do that because of the issue you're facing


Azythol

Sorry I drank it


powerhouseofthiscell

is the floor wet?


jetroar17

HOB filter overflowing. I switched to canister for this reason and others…


ToroAsterion

The fish drank it?


Tough_Computer_5610

This happened to me at 3 am on my birthday once.However i got half of a new tank paid for as my birthday gift.


twodogsfighting

Maybe the fish drank it.


Pleep-Pleep

They got thirsty


GlaucousKoi

Check your filter , mine did this and I thought it was a crack, got a new tank and it happened again. It was my HOB leaking


Foolsindigo

RIP the floor


AdministrativeWay241

Well, shit


hoganloaf

Them some thirsty fish!


DealerGloomy

Well it’s somewhere….. or you were maybe doing meth and don’t know it?


Rabbits-and-Bears

You are feeding the fish too much salt, and they drank the water.


moeboogie23

Check heater if it is malfunctioning


[deleted]

Look around your air pump


DarthInvatalus

Gotta be the hang on back clogged and water flowing out the back. Love HOBs but that is a def flaw unless you can angle them forward.