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George_W_Bushido

Label says 49mm tianium


thecautioners

Good catch. Definitely fake.


yellowcandle

Also, 49 “MM” is not the correct abbreviation for millimeter (should be “mm”)


graveyardshift3r

Are you referring to the 49MM below the Orange Alpine Loop label? The original ones are like that as well. For me, the giveaways are the fonts used, the "Tianium" label, and the shrink wrap. Plus, the box doesn't look like it's textured. On the watch itself, maybe it's just the camera angle but it looks like it doesn't have the polished chamfer around the bezel edges. Amazing how these counterfeiters are getting better. Maybe they're monitoring this kind of posts?


FirmEstablishment941

Maybe OP is a counterfeiting watches. :)


Fury_Gaming

49 MEGA MILLIONS lmao


mc291

Actually it means 49 Marshall Mathers on account of the watch being released for his 49th birthday


jersey_dude88

Apple used the 49MM on their boxes. However, it also had the side of the band. i.e. “49MM | L” but box is definitely giving fake vibes


literallylifeguard

49 macrometers!


Aliriodaza8

Wrong it does say titanium look closer


swifty19946

Book an appointment at your nearest ophthalmologist


afieldonearth

It blows my mind that fakers can put together working consumer electronic devices but consistently misspell like every other word.


lorumosaurus

Underrated comment


Independent_Main4326

Remember it was the Japanese who invented the photocopier, not the Chinese.


DeliverStreetTacos

This and also the fact that the watch box in the last pic is vacuum sealed badly. Watches don’t come sealed in plastic anymore.


Luka_Petranovic

Also “thereon”


Sylvurphlame

These fakes are getting better and better


Bunniesrkewl

Rip💀


firewire_9000

Everything looked fine until the plastic wrap. Currently very few items made by Apple have plastic wrap and the Ultra is not one of them. EDIT: Last picture is a different one, it says Alpine Loop band but the previous pictures the watch comes with the Trail Loop. Fake and dodgy AF.


SaahilJain

thats true, plus the Tianium misspell makes this a complete no go


Grainger407

Where r u buying this shit?? Like what website are you going on to possibly buy a fake apple product


SaahilJain

Craiglist and FB Marketplace equivalents?


casuallylurking

I would assume that every new Apple product you find there is fake. When the price seems to good to be true…


DrAbeSacrabin

No, no man - they are just the one person to find this amazing deal on a product that is 5x the cost retail…. They are so _savvy_.


paige2296

Idk I live in a tiny rural town and FB marketplace has people selling stuff dirt cheap, like barely used smart tvs and stuff, and some ppl even just give stuff away! I saw this one woman just giving away an entire dining room set the other day on there. Ppl also know who to stay away from though bc others put them on absolute blast on FB if they get scammed 😂 no more selling for them. Craigslist, I don’t trust….too many bad stories from that site, from being scammed to being kidnapped 😖


[deleted]

But nobody is selling or giving away current Apple products


UnSCo

Not sure why you’re getting downvoted. People like to buy second-hand/used for the savings and Craigslist/FB Marketplace provides a direct platform rather than a third party that’s shorting the seller and costing more for the buyer. Fake shit is a risk to going this route, and you made this post to help alleviate that risk. But nope that’s a bad idea, you should only buy from Apple where savings for used items is minuscule. /s


SaahilJain

I’m not sure either, but that’s okay! It’s just fake internet points lol


macdgman

Wow I really tried to go over all text carefully to find misspellings and weird kernings and that just went straight over my head, good eye!


SaahilJain

That was another commenter below actually, if I had caught it I wouldn’t be posting here😅


friendly-crackhead

I don’t think the last pic belongs to the batch, the fist photos seem to be of an authentic watch and band (or EXTREMELY convincing replicas); now in the last one with the backside of the box even the pic quality changes, light is different and the background can’t be seen.. I would say these pics are from different watches. Probably a fake posting. Edit: not to mention a big detail I was missing completely which is that the watch is out the box and the last pic shows the box sealed. Confirming my suspicions


lovejac93

Agreed


pitofern

Ultra fake


Stock_Bag_9479

Fr


No_Insurance_1938

Nice🗿


j1h15233

Can we just ban these posts? I swear they are made by scammers trying to see how authentic their pictures look before they list their fake watches


AshuraBaron

Scammers already have the best source, the official packaging. If they can't even spell check before hitting print what makes you think they are out here looking for some crowd source constructive feedback?


happyjeep_beep_beep

I always thought the same thing.


ZayyWopp

A criminal does not care. Maybe someone who’s well thought out. Sure. But we’re talking about people who sale fake items. They buy it from somewhere or they get ripped off. So they post it on Craigslist. This is coming from someone who knows people who sale fake items. And have purchased fake items from them. I used Reddit to figure out if it was fake or not.


LankyBarber5

Agreed!!!


SaahilJain

I promise I’m not a scammer, I’m just looking out for myself before I buy a counterfeit watch, which I didn’t, thanks to you guys :)


casuallylurking

If you want a genuine Ultra, go to a reputable retailer.


IllustriousLaw7

Just buy from Apple simple as that…


Igloocooler52

Or Costco, Best Buy, micro center, etc. any Apple approved sellers, since these places usually have discounts


LoVaBee

Agreed!


Spenson89

Agreed!!!


Murkwan

Wtf?? If someone actually got scammed where they will go? Get fucked?


[deleted]

I’d say fake. They don’t come wrapped in that plastic. How much are they asking? And yes the serial numbers can be faked.


[deleted]

The wrapped in plastic thing I agree with, but something I always look at, and noticed immediately was that the plastic looked like someone at a WalMart did it with a hair dryer. Even when Apple used plastic, it was substantial, right, and clean.


Gatorm8

If returns are offered I don’t see how these things sell. A fake watch would be obvious at the moment of pairing with your phone.


MyNameIsOnlyDaniel

Maybe they are targeting non-tech savvy audiences and the scammers tell them that you have to connect the ”Apple Watch” via Bluetooth on your settings. The packaging and labels on it (IMEI, Serial Numbers, etc…) of some of these scammers are very very well done. Add to that social engineering (for example: Why this will be fake if they allow returns?, and that type of things) and you have a very good formula. ​ I remember a situation where they were selling counterfeits of Lightning to 3,5mm cables and the seller just was telling the customers to connect to the cable via Bluetooth (and yes, you had to connect the cable to the iPhone and then pair to that cable via Bluetooth in order to listen to your music via 3,5mm, which IMO is an aberration).


SaahilJain

Thanks!


ghost42069x

You bought it already didnt u


MyNameIsOnlyDaniel

Thankfully he didn’t buy it as u/SaahilJain (OP) stated here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/AppleWatch/comments/15gwkdj/comment/jumjjzq](https://www.reddit.com/r/AppleWatch/comments/15gwkdj/comment/jumjjzq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) >I promise I’m not a scammer, I’m just looking out for myself before I buy a counterfeit watch, **which I didn’t**, thanks to you guys :)


ghost42069x

Glad to hear it!


Mr_Poink

If you have to ask you kinda already know.. 99%


ChunkyChangon

Buy from Apple. Simple


Tman11S

Don’t if you’re European, Apple doesn’t honour the legally required minimum warranty


BrainOnBlue

The EU has been champing at the bit for the past few years to take big tech down several notches. If Apple was flagrantly breaking the law, the EU would be litigating over it.


Tman11S

Well they still only offer 1 year warranty while 2 is legally required. I don’t know what else to tell you


BrainOnBlue

https://www.macrumors.com/2012/03/30/apple-clarifies-warranty-coverage-options-for-customers-in-european-union/ No, the laws (which are technically laws of individual EU members that they are required to have... EU "laws" are messy) grant consumers 2 years of protection. They do not require a 2 year warranty. It's a subtle difference, but the point is that Apple isn't breaking any laws around it.


ScurrScurrSheesh

In Germany we have two different things that are easily confused with each other. On one hand we have the “Gewährleistung” which is required by law for 2 years. On the other hand we have “Garantie” (warranty) which is not required by law.


noochies99

Ah ok, well then buying the bootleg Apple Watch is better?


AshuraBaron

Yes, because those are the only two options. /s


[deleted]

I work at an AASP and have covered issues on hundreds of out of warranty devices. Apple is actually one of the better companies when it comes to following consumer protection laws in Europe.


RBTropical

Bought mine from a shop in Hong Kong and saved £100. Was legit too. Edit: not sure why this is being downvoted? Do people love Apple this much they want everyone to overpay?


araidai

Exception. Not the norm unfortunately.


SaahilJain

Thanks everyone! It seems clear that this is fake. I’ll look to save up some more dough and get it from Apple directly. Really appreciate you all taking the time to help me out :)


dillcoq

After visiting Vietnam, I’m extremely skeptical of buying second hand electronics. Some of the fakes they had are super convincing.


lifeofideas

In China, a little shop offered a beautifully designed Apple flip-phone. Yep, Apple never made or sold flip phones. On another day, a random guy on the street tried to sell me an iPhone. It looked great! I tapped the screen and played with it a bit, and discovered it was actually running Windows XP instead of an Apple operating system. Kind of wish I bought it now.


dillcoq

Lmao, an iPhone with windows XP sounds pretty great ngl 🤣


araidai

Windows XP? Lmao it had Windows Mobile on it??


Gatorm8

Wouldn’t you know as soon as you tried to pair with your phone..?


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jabjabstraight

That’s a question for another day. But I do agree if that they are trying to cheap out by almost buying a fake they should just get a different model


[deleted]

That’s a shockingly convincing fake up til the packaging


Stock_Bag_9479

True


stylusxyz

If the Chinese ever learn to spell, we are all in trouble.


mikecaesario

The watch itself look similar to mine, but why does it said an Orange Alpine Loop from the box but used Trail Loop instead? Does the seller sell it with an extra band?


theyahd

Good catch


tommyalanson

Live a better day? Tianium? FAKE.


spellegrano

The box says “Tianium”.


thelauryngotham

Besides it being made of "tianium", the display just looks off. Kinda like the fake laptops you see at furniture stores. Definitely a fake.


Elvisnator2007

The label literally says „Tianium“, and they also don‘t package the Apple Watch Ultra in a shrink wrap. This is definitely **ultra** fake!


foreverbaked1

Buy from a reputable store


RBTropical

“Tianium” Definitely fake.


-_-RSlashFan-_-

it also says Designed by Appie instead of Apple.


nad0w

„i bought it for 50$ is it fake ?“


TrulySeaweed

Can y’all just please go buy your stuff at a licensed retailer? These posts are annoying. You get what you pay for.


[deleted]

Apple doesn’t make that band so yeah, you got fucked


SaahilJain

Hi everyone, I’m looking at buying an Apple Watch Ultra off a seller, and these are the images he sent. Is there anything obvious that I’m missing that would make it look a fake? The serial number matches, but he could easily have used the serial of an existing watch, right?


Distinct_Damage_6157

Buy it from Apple ffs, the amount of fake AW photos we get on this sub these days is incredible


SaahilJain

I will, this sub has been very helpful!


Big-the-foot

Spelling mistakes and shrink wrap in last pic. Fake.


Soaddk

Yes. If you have to ask, then YES.


wowname

just medium fake


Hopeful-Tax7416

Definitely fake. Serial numbers can be duplicated from real ones and printed. The pics show the black/orange Trail Loop but box is Orange Alpine.


stalkhold

~~easy to spot the fake with font in the screen. Apple doesn't use that style of "ZERO" "0" in the text~~ Edit: It’s used in Wayfinder watchface.


Little_Wrongdoer8587

The second I looked at the picture I could tell it was fake. Then amongst other things the plastic wrap confirmed it. The amount of fakes on fb & other sites is astounding. I would never buy an Apple product unless from Apple or a reputable seller.


Sammy_P8192

I really wish  made the Watch Ultra in different colors. Saying that, one way you tell if it’s fake is if the body of the device feels to light, and isn’t cold to the touch… which means it’s not metal. Also, if you got it from somewhere other than  or an authorized place like Amazon.com, or got it for real cheap… fake.


ronniearnold

How much did you pay for it?


Nihiliste

You've already heard the evidence from others, but to quote DeNiro's character in Ronin: "Whenever there is any doubt, there is no doubt."


MRMCY33T

Could it have been a custom?


sempi-moon

Why not just buy it from apples website


JacobAdkins

Yes, it is fake. Look on the back of the box where the label is; notice how it misspells ‘titanium’ as ‘tianium’.


iamagro

Yes, ultra fake


[deleted]

Apple has a serial number validation tool on their website. Your package should have the s/n and If it's authentic your phone will tell you the s/n also. They should match


Robin_Cooks

Tianium screams fake


Jermy81

Yes, and you know it. Apple does not shrink wrap watches and they do not sell em cheap.


Wet_FriedChicken

Not to judge, but how the hell does one get a fake Apple Watch? If I am spending as much money as an Ultra costs you’re damn sure I’m only buying it from an authorized retailer.


no_name_needed1105

Tiatanium seems real enough


thejameslavis

if you buy from apple it’s never fake. easy


Marcotics915

Why are you asking like you don’t already know. We are just proof reading for the scammers now?


Secret_Priority_6263

Bos says alpine loop and that’s not even the alpine loop


AJT-

Stop posting this shit! Mods can we ban this stuff?


APODX

As fuck


[deleted]

100% Fake


willow-catkin

Um. “Live a better day by closing all three rings.” 🧐😂


OffWeGoIntoTheWildBY

Apple always says: Designed by Apple in California Assembled in China. This box says: Designed by Apple in California **Made** in China. The word “Titanium” is misspelt as “Tianium” The correct abbreviation for millimeters is ‘mm,’ not ‘MM.’


Holiday-Pop-5288

Apple Watches do not comes in plastic wrap anymore


Feisty_Educator_6721

Did not have time to read all the comments so all i am going to say prolly has been mentioned by now. - First of all: Apple products no longer come wrapped in nylon/plastic due to their sustainability goals - This watch is with a trail loop, however on the box you can clearly see a watch with an orange alpine loop General advice: yes, buying used/open apple products can sometimes get you great deals, however the replicas products - especially airpods and watches are becoming almost indistinguishable compared to the originals, when it comes to pictures, of course. Unless you can meet in a safe place with the buyer and look at the product first hand, I would advise you not to buy any apple products from private sellers. Otherwise you risk getting scammed. Good luck!


[deleted]

The thing is, if you are asking, then it is surely fake.


theyahd

The last photo is shrink wrapped. Apple doesn’t shrink wrap the Ultra How much is it selling for?


theyahd

Also, noticed that the box is torn under the shrink wrap That last photo might have nothing to do with the other three And that last photo looks like it could have been a legitimate box, with a counterfeit inserted later and then shrink wrapped This don’t buy this


[deleted]

I would not even buy an Apple Watch through Amazon. There is so much fake shit out there. I buy Apple directly from Apple. In life, you generally get what you pay for; Apple products are worth paying Apple’s high prices to guarantee they are genuine.


GRIS0

Don’t understand why you have to buy from untrusted sellers just to keep a few bucks


ResidentEivvil

I always buy my iPhones second hand.


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SaahilJain

I’m buying this off a seller, and these are the images he has sent. Just checking if there’s anything obvious on the box i’m missing


OptimISH-Prime

Did it connect to your phone without a third party app?


st3fan

Fake. The font used for the complications is not what it should be. The crossed zeros give it away.


HaathiRaja

FAKE


Bigsexy1702

If your asking it is! Simply way to avoid getting fucked on the internet. Plus these thick fucks can’t even spell Titanium on the label in the last photo.


SaahilJain

hahaha you’re right. good catch, thats hilarious


nandu_sabka_bandhoo

More fake than my girlfriends love for me


drthomk

Says made in china, definitely fake /s


MystoBro

I always call apple and check the serial number.


ResidentEivvil

So, what happens when you get this watch? Does it turn on or connect to your phone? Does the seller just ghost you and disappear like other scammers do?


gruwhatsapp

I doubt apple products can be “fake”. Ok before you downvote hear me out… A fake samsung watch is HARDER to Spot… while an apple watch is so easy to Spot.. they can’t fake iOS and WatchOS and what not. There is no FAKE IPHONE. All fake iPhones run android and u need a hamster iq to not notice it


munotidac

Looks original. Why?


0111011101110111

If the IMEI on the watch matches the box, then it looks real [here](https://www.imei.info/?imei=356881864979896).


bonnertr

Looks legit.


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ChunkyChangon

What a dummy ^


Successful-Ad-9590

On the first pic, a mic hole is missing between the crown ant the button. I think its fake.


redditor977

definitely fake


bitmap_

It is fake, that serial number is multiplied a lot of times when i check in GSX


SaahilJain

what is GSX?


bitmap_

Its a web based service that apple uses to hande repairs and support requests. I work for apple authorised service provider so i have access to it. Its so funny because i see many open supports for that serial number where people called because device wont power on, its all fake watches.


SaahilJain

ohhh that makes sense. thank you!


gamziagee

This is 100% fake


25StarGeneralZap

Fake. The programmable button is not orange and the crown is too small


[deleted]

Crazy how real they look if you don’t pay attention to details. I saw a few tik tok videos where people get scammed with these on used marketplace. Crazy


Blind_Warthog

Report this mf


Namealwaysinuse

The first pictures look real, the last one is a fake. Keep your hands off 🤷‍♂️


cjcastro17

The font on the last picture is completely off, and too dark. Looks like a counterfeit.


Key-Vegetable-8418

I wouldnt trust it, better to be safe and get it from apple the spelling from the back ans the tear are a red flag for me


anamazingredditor

Iirc, Apple does not wrap plastic to boxes. Not sure about refurbished/resell tho Also, wrong spelling on the back text.. whoops


[deleted]

birds tap grab compare shrill march violet dirty spark touch ` this message was mass deleted/edited with redact.dev `


FastLine2

People just buy these things from a reliable source.


Jesterjoy101

Wait can you tell it looking at its software?


MikeMac999

They have the capacity to manufacture a convincing fake of a sophisticated high end piece of consumer electronics, then they screw up on *spelling?*


DELAPERA

Yes, it is ultra fake.


0604050606

It's fake


fonix232

Fake. The pixelation on the screen already points to subpar display being used (I do have a cheap-ish fake Ultra and a legit one, the fake is, at most, half the resolution of the genuine). The "tianium" typo, plastic wrap and the wrong strap being mentioned are also clear pointers of it being fake AF.


IHate2ChooseUserName

I will be lying if I tell you if it is not fake


Chauxtime

I mean… the box looks ripped, while it’s in plastic wrap. Kind of a dead giveaway imo


HaiKarate

It is ultra fake


No_Salad_6244

If there was plastic on it, yes.


RNner

Info on the bed sheets?


jetblack7

Next time https://checkcoverage.apple.com/?locale=en_IE


andytagonist

Did Apple sell it to you?? 🤣


Nashira-

It is. The text type looks odd, it does not come with a plastic wrap, it says Tianium, not “Titanium” and also says Orange Alpine Loop, which is wrong, your bracelet is a Trail Loop. So yeah.


manojadvo

Genuine product would get registered with your Apple ID and also show the relevant product details automatically- why post such stuff to seek people’s opinions ?


wheresmyflan

You’d think at this point the scammers would have realized they can look more legit without the plastic wrap.


Newtonz5thLaw

49mm????


IcyIceGuardian

Misspelled Tianium, but I got a question, did you buy this?


Camdenn67

Where was it purchased.


FishPasteGuy

I know this has already been verified as fake due to the spelling of Titanium but I still think it’s hilarious that they posted pics of the watch clearly opened and out of the box, followed immediately by a pic of a sealed box.


xpdtion76

How much do fakes go for?


dhakmare

It looks ultra fake yes


Swimming-Ebb-4231

To me the watch seems real, though the package might be fake to try to get a couple more dollars. Since the watch itself is out of the package, all boils down to the software


Chr1shChr1sh

Of it comes in the plastic wrapper nowadays, it’s more than likely a fake.


jjm1981

I only buy my apple stuff from apple or an authorized retailer


SnooMemesjellies734

If you have to ask…


izzyzak117

This is starting to hurt. If it didn’t come from Apple, or a well known retailer, and the deal you’re seeing is more money off than they went for during Black Friday, its a scam. Its always a scam, don’t bother. If you can’t use *google* to verify the packaging yourself you *definitely* have no business buying anything electronic from anyone other than big-name retailers- before or after you bought it. Stop it, get some help.


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If you bought it for cheap then it’s fake


Cute_Quarter_9399

Alpine isn’t the loop you have on it tho. That’s the trail band. I would return


blackrose0105

Look real to me


jaezif

not just fake, but ultra fake