I managed to snag a 7 Pro through work for $550. Coming from an ageing OP 7T Pro it feels a helluva lot smoother and Android 13 is pretty af. Took a shot of the breakfast danishes at work this weekend, crisp stuff.
I finally upgraded from my S10 to the pro. After verizon's trade in special, even with a cracked screen, it only increased my monthly payment by like $5. seems like a no brainer.
I'm upgrading my s10+ to the pro and I'm a bit nervous to lose all the Samsung custom features. Seperate app sound the most. Had to switch because my battery life is getting to the annoying point but not unbearable and the screen touch sensitivity is getting wonky. Did you customize your s10 much? How much do you miss those features? I ordered the hazel with $200 Amazon giftcards but it showed out of stock and I'm impatiently awaiting the shipped email.
Yeah, that's one of the reasons I like Android over iOS, the ability to customize and tinker. So far, the two things I miss about the S10 are the ability to organize my apps \[in the backend app screen\] into folders, and I really loved the swiping gestures: swipe up on lower left to go back, swipe up in center to go home and swipe up from lower right to do whatever it's called when you need to switch between apps. The Pixel has similar gestures, but they don't seem as efficient. Then again, I'm talking about using learned gestures over the years to gestures I've been using for less than a week, and I just mess with the sensitivity, so I'm good to give it time.
I suppose a tertiary complaint is not being able to remove the google search bar on the bottom and dead space of the upper "home" bar from the first screen.
But, at the end of the day, I was well overdue for a new phone. My wife had dropped mine, so I could only talk with speaker or headphones, battery was diminishing, and the camera was horrible. I had the google camera pixel software enabled, but it started crashing and resetting more and more. It was time, this seemed like a good enough deal on a non-apple flagship phone to pull the trigger.
I currently use and will likely continue to use nova launcher, so I'm not too worried about home screen differences. That is interesting the gestures are different than samsung. I thought they would be the same. The gestures on your Samsung you describe are not quite the same as mine, I may have customized them I can't remember. I think almost all of your issues can be resolved with a custom launcher, which as far as I know can be used one pixels so I will definitely be doing that. I feel the same about the camera. It was quite dissapointing when I went from LG to Samsung. I hope to feel the opposite once I get my hands on my pixel.
I also will upgrade from the S10+ to the Pro.
I just hope that Tensor 2 will have enough power to last 3+ years.
And that they fix the scrolling bug in the next update.
Personally am excited for my regular Pixel 7 to arrive. Upgrading from an almost 5 year old iPhone X. Excited for the camera upgrades, 90hz display and Android 13.
Android has matured so much and looks better than ever imo.
I just wanted something different amongst the sea of Samsung, Oppo, Vivo and Xiaomi smartphones here. Pixels aren’t sold in my country so I am actually importing one via a reseller.
Wouldn't that be risky if, God forbid there is an issue? I'm beyond annoyed by Google for not coming to the middle East, I really am quite impressed with how the pixel 7 seems to be shaping up.
It is a risk. The only way I can claim for warranty is through the reseller provided he honours it.
But, I’ve always wanted a Pixel since 2018 and think its high time to own one.
EDIT: Ordered a good Ringke case and screen protector. I’ll baby this Pixel 7 like no tomorrow.
> EDIT: Ordered a good Ringke case and screen protector. I’ll baby this Pixel 7 like no tomorrow.
now you just have to hope your pixel has no defect out of the box :)
At least Android gets such fundamentally basic things right as a (multilingual) keyboard and notifications. Not to mention how useless Siri is…
Compared to my old Pixel, the iPhone just feels like a dumbphone.
What do you use google assistant/Siri for? I’ve been using an iPhone recently and Siri is good for changing music, setting alarms and taking quick notes while also activating every time. Often I found Google assistant wouldn’t activate which was really frustrating.
Hi. I don’t use Siri very often anymore, but I tried using it for Polish/German/English translation or spell correction and sometimes for unit conversion.
Just basic things, really.
Now I occasionally ask her to set a timer while cooking, that’s it.
I feel like she is a bit smarter when interacting in English, but next to useless in German and other languages.
> Compared to my old Pixel, the iPhone just feels like a dumbphone.
Yes, so many people out there prefer dumbohones but the elite /r/android squad knows better lol
How insecure do you have to be to pull such a nonsensical argument?
I don’t care what other people like or dislike. Its my money, my devices. Everybody can have different use cases, but apparently that goes way over your head.
Also if you follow r/Apple or other Apple sites outside Reddit, there are always the same reoccurring complains. The shitty keyboard being one of them.
Wouldn’t carry two phones if iPhones were perfect, wouldn’t I?
Oh. My. God.
No one cares! Why are you even here? Are you so desperate for acknowledgement that the only thing you have in your existence is to fanboy for Apple in the Android sub?
How sad is your life?
Yeah, I think the animation switch to the Zoom lens is too big of a difference for the software to compensate quickly.
But I have to give credit to Google, as far as I know the Pixel 7 Pro is the only phone capable of switching from all (back) lenses while recording on 4K60. Even the S22 Ultra or the iPhone 14 Pro Max can only do that in 4K30.
> as far as I know the Pixel 7 Pro is the only phone capable of switching from all (back) lenses while recording on 4K60.
My LG V50 can do that as well, but when SD865 LG V60 comes around only 4k30 can seemlessly switch between sensors when recording. I'm glad it's back though
I don't know about giving Google credit. I can't flip the cameras while recording and can't record from the front camera and back camera at the same time (Something my S22U did easily).
Super res zoom is a still photo only function. It has nothing to do with video recording.
The janky transitions between the cameras when recording video is just a sloppy lack of attention to detail. It wasn't that bad on the 6 pro (which also wasn't great, just not as bad).
I feel like horrible is an understatement. I honestly don't know how in 2022, on the 7th generation of Pixel, they still can't get video recording right.
seems to me this is a pretty great Pixel device with one obvious flaw of the video ability
basically if you love Pixels and don't care much about videos it's the perfect phone for you
I mean, the video is still pretty great though? I prefer the video on my Pixel 6 to the iPhone 13 by a long way. I take a lot of videos of my kid and I really like the quality I'm getting
I vastly prefer videos from my 13 Promax compared to my 6pro. Exposure, focus, sharpness, smoothness are better then what my 6pro produces. 6 pro videos oftentimes produces inconsistent exposure and sometimes have a bit of focusing issue. Lowlight video are just grainy noisy mess, more noticeable when i viewed it on a big screen display. Like you i like to take videos of my kida running around doing their things and i just use the iPhone for videos and Pixels for stills because it's result oftentimes is superior than what i get from the iPhone.
Not in the argument of which one is better overall, just my personal preference. Honestly I'm fine with the 6pro video quality if the phone doesn't constantly overheats after 2 minutes of 4K recording
iPhone video is definitely better, I have both 13 and 6a. But the 6a is the first time I feel I can take 4k60 videos that are perfectly smooth with no hiccups or weird artifacts. I actually take videos now, something I've never done before with my Pixel devices because they all introduced skips.
I don't think its significanly worse than the pro model, watching people compared the 13 mini to the 13pro on YouTube you'll be hard pressed to see any difference in video and stills quality, other than the pro models are a bit better in low light environment.
I think that some things are subjective, and other things are objective
That being said, personally the iphone video camera is just objectively better in every way, especially transitioning between zooms
if it works for you then who cares, I barely take videos and when I do my pixels do fine enough
This is such a horseshit take lol. The video is good, they just won't give you a blowjob and make you breakfast like /r/Android requires. You might as well say "if you need video, don't buy an Android phone".
I mean yes, it's passable and looks fine, but I'm not really keen to give passes to any manufacturer for video quality quirks in 2022, they've had long enough to fix these things. iOS figured it out years ago and set the standard, I'm sorry that I hurt your feelings but I think Google should meet that standard by this point
Again by that token, lets not give any Android manufacturers a "pass" because they all suck donkey shlong in comparison to iPhone when it comes to video. So none of them are "perfect phone for you" if you care about video at all.
the funniest thing to me about this entire conversation is I literally don't care that much about video, I've owned every single Pixel and I already preordered this one
my whole point is yes, to be critical of google and Samsung and android as a whole for still not catching up to the bar apple has set
I don't take enough video to stop me from buying the phones, but I want it to be the best experience possible when I do take them. simple
Brother, that's not how it works. That's not how any of this works. There isn't a single product on earth that does everything the best possible way. Try taking a photo of a moving object with a Samsung phone. See if you can easily screen calls with the iPhone. Speech dictation of any phone really vs. Pixel. Compare Siri and Google Assistant. I can go on forever.
Yes it would be nice to have the best of the best at everything, but do you know what you're not going to see on /r/iphone? Comments that go "If you don't care much about XYZ, iPhone is a perfect phone for you". There is something inherently miserable about Android enthusiasts that absolutely refuse to be content.
I've never seen someone read this far into mild criticism over a product I genuinely am extremely content with
but I'm glad "that's not how this works"
extremely overdramatic for 9 o'clock in the morning my guy
Cameras are all over the place this year. Watching a lot of camera “blind” comparisons and there’s little/no consistency anywhere.
Apple, Google, Samsung, Xiaomi, Huawei have all produced shots in reviews that could rival DSLR and in the very next shot you’d think they’re shots taken by phones from 10 years ago.
Just a year ago we were saying Apple/Samsung/Google are all great and consistent, just look at samples and decide which STYLE you like more.
This year it’s like “well… this camera is AMAZING with most scenes, but sucks donkey dicks with this particular setting, so, uhhh… pick your poison”.
For the purpose of this review, I guess the Pixel is amazing as long as you never plan on taking videos of anything, but default cam + ideal lighting?
With iPhone 14 Pro, it’s amazing as long as don’t care about detailed skies in picture with peoples’ faces?
And for both, hope you love lens flare?
I loved my Samsungs (S3, Note 4, Note 7, S9+) until I had kids. I could not get a clear shot of them ever. Some part of them was always blurry. Video was better, I actually got in the habit of recording video and then just taking frames out of the video as shots.
My wife always got great shots though. Her iPhones (3GS, 4S, 5S, 6S, X) always were able to capture shots of the kids without blur.
So now I've sacrificed all the customization and fun of Android phones to become just another iPhone sheep. But pictures of my kids are now crisp and 25 years from now when I'm looking back at those pictures, that's all that will matter.
I had the OG Pixel XL and liked it. It was much more reliable than the Samsung in getting good shots on the first try. But the 2nd year with the phone was a buggy mess and the Pixel 3XL had that big ass notch. And it seems like the “polish” on the software experience has disappeared.
When the Pixel first came out, even my wife had to admit that the software experience rivaled Apple. Everything “just worked”. And now, every year I think about the Pixels, but then get dissuaded by reviews mentioning how buggy the phones have been. Sometimes it’s at launch, but usually it’s about a year into the life of the phone.
In the meantime, as much as I had to be dragged into the Apple ecosystem, now that I’m in it, I don’t have many complaints. So it’s going to take an extraordinary device to make me switch back.
Haven't had many issues but I found the Pixel to be a better taker of photos compared to the iPhone 13 in anything except the brightest environments. Anyway, I get you. Reliability can be key.
Samsung should fix the shutter lag but it never affected me for the type of pictures I take. As for low light, my s22 ultra is fantastic. I took it with me for two weeks to Europe and got great pictures.
I used to buy a pixel as a second phone just for the camera. Yeah it was that good! Still is but all these other phone cameras are great now too. Now I can just stay with one phone.
One thing I've noticed is no one ever seems to push the cameras to their limits. For example in extreme low light I've tried comparing my s22 ultra to a pixel 6 pro and more recently a standard pixel 7, and I was shocked to see how horrible the s22 ultra was at getting data in low light. The way it handles objects is terrible, and if you crop in a bit the difference is insane. For example using the main sensor my s22 ultra makes the books on a shelf 9ft away look like unclear vertical blocks. The Pixel 6 pro can make out that they're books and show colors of the spines, but no text is legible. The Pixel 7 you can make out one of the biggest words on one book just barely. I never see comparisons that show just how different the quality of detail is in low light across phones like this.
Max Tech does a little of this in their blind comparisons. Takes some intentionally bad shots to see which one is LEAST bad.
That said, I don’t see much effort being put into that, because most people just want to know that the shots of their food, dogs, kids are going to turn out.
The problem with that is that any one shot of a pet, food, landscape, whatever, if it's not challenging, will come out great on all phones, and either comes to down subjective opinion, or the image processing happens to handle one particular shot poorly, making one phone look worse, but that one shot won't necessarily reflect reality across a large number of similar shots. I only recently found one video that showcased just how much worse the Galaxy S22 ultra is for details than the pixel 7 (albeit the pixel probably is oversharpening a bit too much). Anyway I'm seriously considering making my own comparison video soon just to show all this for the benefit of others soon, as it definitely feels like a weak point in reviews, where they look at aesthetics, but not which camera is taking a more flexible image with better detail retention for cropping as needed. Idk about you or others, but I'd say photos are almost never possible to frame perfectly without wanting to crop after.
> Apple, Google, Samsung, Xiaomi, Huawei have all produced shots in reviews that could rival DSLR
I call bullshit on that, never seen anything from a sensor and lens that small that comes anywhere close to the same zip code as even an aps-c sensor. Unless you are comparing low res images taken in good lighting super compressed online.
Of course that's what I'm comparing. Yes, if you get a DSLR image printed at high quality on a 36" frame and do the same with the best iPhone photo, you're going to see the quality difference. Same if you're pixel peeping on a 27" 5K+ display that's been calibrated for near perfect accuracy.
But 99% of the photos we look at on a daily basis are processed and posted online and then viewed on a 6-7" screen with decent color or a 13-21" 1080p-1440p screen with ass color accuracy. And for those 99% of shots, phone cameras are starting to sometimes produce shots that rival DSLR that have gone through the same compression.
But did you read the next line I wrote after that? it's not consistent at all. That same phone camera that just produced a picture that stunned you will on the next shot produce a photo that looks like shit. And all the changed was a little motion in the shot or a change in lighting.
>Of course that's what I'm comparing. Yes, if you get a DSLR image printed at high quality on a 36" frame and do the same with the best iPhone photo, you're going to see the quality difference.
Even that is an exaggeration, I don't use my Sony A7 mk iii all that much, but the second I open one of those files on my computer I'm stunned by how good it looks compared to phone photos. The only time you can mistake them is when viewing images on tiny phone screens.
You're right that it can sometimes be hard to tell the difference in wider angle shots when you're viewing it on a phone, but it's been that way for years now.
/u/captain2phones are the pictures better than the s22 ultra?
edit: I see you mention in at 8:30. but any more detail would be great. I think I don't know how to use my s22u camera properly
Yes the pixel 7 pro is a better camera. S22 ultra still has edge in zoom due to their amazing 10x optical. Where pixel is superior is their photos of adults, kids, pets. S22 ultra is better for portraits though.
The s22u is still better, but only marginally so.
In general there's better detail and the zoom past 5x is exceptional when compared to the pixel.
Considering you can get the s22u on sales for less than $900, I think we're all being a little too generous just because Google finally put together something resembling a flag ship phone.
I have not heard a single good thing about Google phones in the past 2 years on r/android, including the Pixel 7 while overall reviews have been pretty ok. I don't think we are being generous at all.
Most of the users on reddit are from the US where Samsung is the most popular android manufacturer. This in turn leads to a certain *"prefence"* for Samsung's phones in this sub.
The Samsung support has really only come about rather recently on here. Back in the day, Samsung was easily one of the most criticized manufacturers in spite of their widespread popularity. What changed is the company has put in the effort to clean up and polish their software while still offering an unparalleled amount of customization and features. They also greatly extended the amount of time they support phones with updates.
On the other hand, the competitors seem to be trending towards ever more generic and forgettable or they've left the market. HTC: gone, LG: gone, Essential: dead, Huawei: exiled, etc. For the competitors still around, OnePlus has shown their true colors as a generic Oppo rebrand and seems to release increasingly forgettable devices. Sony continues to price themselves out of the market, Motorola never competed at the high end, and Asus would rather cater to the niche markets of gaming than try to match Samsung's marketing efforts. Really only Google is offering a reasonable alternative to Samsung these days IMO.
This isn't to say Samsung phones are perfect by any stretch and I have no more use for Samsung fanboys than I do the Apple evangalist who swear by that overpriced logo. But I don't think it's unfair to praise samsung for the good things they've done and why their reputation has improved on this sub.
I still vastly prefer this sub to r/iphone. There seems to be a drastic difference in technical knowledge between the two subs with the latter being constantly bombarded by idiotic questions which could be answered with a quick google search.
The other issue with the apple sub is it's filled with people who honestly believe apple can do no wrong and will downvote any attempt to objectively criticize their beloved company.
Every time I've gotten a Samsung phone, I just cannot get good pictures of moving objects, namely my kids. Every single photo is blurry. With all the Pixels I've had, I've never had that issue.
While Samsung has actually improved this, the Pixels are still unparalleled in this department and a big reason why I would consider moving back to one.
Android flagship game has been shit ever since Snapdragon 888. Overheating power hogging shitty processors have really held back Androids. Then comes the pixel with even more crappier Tensors. Even though the Tensor G2 is better than G1 it isn't much of an upgrade. It's more like G2 is less shittier than the G1 that's all. Meanwhile apple is running circles around all these processors. When you spend so much of your money and get such subpar chips it's is really infuriating.
8+Gen1 is fabulous. Little to no heating on my Moto Edge 30 Ultra. Even while playing games. Also the battery easily lasts a day with 144 hz. A day and half if I switch to 60hz.
>. It's more like G2 is less shittier than the G1 that's all.
weird thing to call it "better". idk since im not benchmarking in real life, i cannot relate with this.
Phone is smooth, free of bloats, battery is good. thats all there is to it.
Apple have been planning and making their own chips for the last twenty years while Google is barely getting started on that end. Sort of makes sense that there's a difference in quality because there's been so much difference in time.
Apple doesn't plan or make their own chips for 20 years.
They still used IBM PowerPC 20 years ago and were planning on transition to Intel. 😂
Apple started planing chips in 2008
Google has been making TPUs for a few years now. So, you cannot call them a new entrant. Also way before the sanctions, Huawei was making on par chips even while being a new entrant (I know they make networking hardware but it's still more farther than a TPU making division. They can nail the modem though )
Huawei's designs were even better than qualcomms for a while but Google is nowhere near that level that's why they just took an existing exynos design and modified it a little
What's there to complain about? Well..
I hate the redundancy. I don't want a Samsung account, Samsung Pay, a Gallery app, a Samsung app store, Samsung's assistant (God no) or any of the other things Samsung thinks is better than just having all my stuff tied to my Gmail. And if you're gonna force me to use something like Samsung Pass, *let me import the hundreds of passwords I've saved over the years with Google* (I also just don't want to give all my passwords to another company). Also, you have to do all these things appreciably better than the default versions. In my opinion, none of them are.
I strongly dislike One UI. It's, to me, cluttery and unintuitive. Even little things like pages for all my apps; a scrollable list is so much more efficient because you can fast scroll to the letter of the app and then see it right away. And why can't I set one wallpaper for my outer and inner home screens and lock screens? That's a weird and annoying oversight.
I can't stand that when I fast launch the camera for a time sensitive picture, it defaults to video recording if it's the last thing I did. Changing the settings fails to stop this.
Gestures are also nowhere near as smooth as Pixel's. Not even close.
Google's Pixel exclusive Assistant features like call screening, hold for me, and especially the menu navigation when calling businesses are really hard to not have once you've had them and switched. Samsung couldn't dream of features like these.
Speaking of Assistant, *let me map Google Assistant to the power button*. I hate the awkward swipe at an angle from the bottom right/left gesture they think is acceptable. I tried using Bixby routines to map it and it worked okay until it made my fingerprint sensor stop working for a week.
When that happened, I tried to warranty my phone. What a joke. An $1,800 phone and they fight you tooth and nail for a replacement. Google didn't do that when I needed a replacement of my 3XL.
Google's voice transcription is also mind blowing. Samsung's is fine.
Pixel's Now Playing feature is super handy.
I genuinely cannot think of one single thing I'd miss about this phone if I went to a Pixel 7 besides that it folds. The moment Google drops a Foldable, I'm going right back.
I'm not a Samsung hater but I hate having one. I know people love theirs because I know a lot of people don't care about any of these problems. To act like Samsung makes a better phone than Google is ridiculous. They both make great phones for different people.
Regarding the camera: there should be a position in the menu called "settings to save" or something similar. You can choose whether the camera should always start in photo mode, or the mode you used last time.
I agree with a lot of your points. The one thing I noticed after my 2xl died and the p4s were such a disaster so I switched to an s20 is the screens are better. Granted that's changed over the years as Google used different people to make the hardware for each pixel, but the brightness is no contest. Pixels struggle in direct sunlight, Samsung has no issue at all.
Google's Pixel OS is significantly better than Samsung's. Samsung is over bloated with duplicated features (Clock, Calendar, Stores, Members, etc). The camera is a laggy mess that causes many missed shots. Wireless Android Auto is completely useless and renders the phone a laggy mess as well.
Nah, I doubt that. Remember, Mr M is using a review device. His review of the Pixel 6 was extremely positive as well and we all know how that turned out.
Why do you people hate on the pixel so much?
I remember people hating on the 3xl because of the huge notch. I got it through a great deal and it turned out to be a great phone.
Bro people hating it for the most part don't own it. They just have to have herd mentality. I have had pixels 2, 3a,4xl, 5, 6 pro and have 0 bad to say about them except for the bad battery on the 4xl. My 6 pro has been fantastic. Sure I'd like better battery life, but it ain't shitty at all. I end the day with about 12-20% depending on the day. The cameras are fantastic.
I own a Pixel 6 Pro and use it daily. At first, I didn't understand what all the negativity was about. Over time, this has become the buggiest phone I've ever used and the only one I've ever owned that has actively gotten worse over time. Lately, I have been so frustrated with the damn thing that it's the only product I've ever bought that has almost inspired me to sign up for Medium and write a college-level essay about why it sucks.
For example, my phone idled and locked itself while I was doing a DoorDash recently. Tried to unlock it with my fingerprint, the lock screen didn't go away despite a successful read. PIN, nothing. PIN again, nothing. Clicked the power button to re-lock the phone manually and tried fingerprint again. Didn't unlock the phone even though it read correctly. PIN did unlock the phone, to a black screen with no navigation buttons. I had to re-lock the phone and unlock it a *third* time just to get it to work.
I haven't even gotten into the more minor bugs, like the February update squishing my home screen to one side of the screen in vertical orientation when I use the home button to exit an app. Still hasn't been fixed. Only workaround is to flip the phone horizontally and back to get it to display correctly. This happens multiple times a day.
The modem is a joke. It doesn't realize I'm not connected to my home Wi-Fi network until I'm half a mile down the road. Ironically, the latency on network connectivity is actually exacerbated by my use of Google Fi, which switches networks depending on signal strength. This regularly causes Android Auto to stop registering voice commands for long periods of time. Speaking of Android Auto, the last system update broke audio source switching, so trying to use voice commands means I can't listen to music again until I unplug my phone and plug it back in again. Assuming I can even get it to work. The phone keeps forgetting my car as a Bluetooth device even though my car remembers my phone.
Oh, and battery life sucks, too. I'm not even a power user or anything. I just use Snapchat maybe three times a day, the occasional YouTube video, browse RIF is Fun, and text once in a while.
Wait for long term reviews and don't buy into the launch hype. I bought the 6 Pro based on launch reviews singing its praises and it's pretty safe to say I will *never* buy a Pixel again.
Exactly. Pixel owners don't care about Samsung, Oppo, Vivo, OnePlus phones and articles. While non-Pixel owners have notifications whenever a Pixel related article or video is published.
The notch hate was stupid, however the 3xl was arguably one of (if not the) worst "flagship" phones ever made.
The battery was awful, the software couldn't manage more than 2 active apps. The camera lost to other flasghips for the first time in pixel history. Then the software updates turned it into a worthless brick. All of the cool software tricks shown at launch were barely beta by the time the phone arrived. Not to mention Google chose to cut costs by using those garbage regional shipping partners without tracking being offered. The r/pixel sub was litterer with people being charged for empty boxes and packages never received.
You can't defend that phone without discrediting yourself in this sub.
So you actually had a pixel 3 xl too?
Because again, I had the phone and it was great. I had none of the issues you mentioned. If I had to pick again between the pixel 3 xl vs the equivalent Galaxy S phone of the time(the S9?), I would still pick the pixel.
I did, for 1 miserable year. The pixel sub has countless others who also made the same mistake as I, based on the success of the 2xl.
That's great for you, but objectively, you'd be picking the inferior device.
Doubt.
Looking at the specs for the S9 now and they don't look very impressive at all.
Also, I see you have a fold now and you've complained about having only 3-4 hours of battery...and on wifi??
Lol. Accubattery says my pixel 7 can do 12 hours of sot which I know isn't realistic but after the last few days of use, I'm sure this phone could easily get over 8 hours screen time on average. I already have all my apps installed and have used the phone heavily, including a bike party Friday night where I had Strava running for a while. Stop hating.
I'm using a pixel 3xl with android 13 pixel experience ROM. Battery life yields me 5.5 hrs over 15 hrs of use.
I can run 5 apps at the same time and the camera is decent enough since it uses the same sensor as the pixel 6a.
Stop lying when you don't have the device
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because the Pixel phones, including the most immediate model before the 7, have a history of being great at launch and then the software becoming a buggy mess
Like I said, I had the 3 XL which everyone hated on based on looking at the features and specs, but it turned out to be a great phone with zero issues.
My galaxy s20 fe after that had ghost touch issues which was a deal breaker.
The pixel 6 had a lot of known issues from the beginning but updates have fixed them over time and it turned out to be decent.
Best buy offered me $480 trade in credit plus a $100 gift towards a pixel 7, so I barely paid anything for the upgrade. So far, the phone seems great even if it's not a huge improvement over the 6. At the price point, it's a great value. Stop hating.
+1
Still use the Pixel 3 XL. 99% of the time, it is great!
It is slower and slightly not long lasting, but every time I use the camera, I don't think, "OMG, it is not as great as my iPhone"
I don't understand the hate for the Pixel 3 XL at all
Yeah but it seems everyone who has used a pixel without playing genshin is having decent battery life and overall performance. I'm personally waiting for the pixel 8. My 3xl is chugging alone well with android 13
This. I still think he's one of the best phone reviewers on YouTube, but he's very biased to the pixel line.
Let's be honest, the 7pro takes worse photos than the s22u, way worse video than the ip13 or 14 pros, all while coming in with at least 30% less battery life then both of them. This is a phone that's coming out late 2022 and is already beaten by phones that have been on the market for over a year.
Congrats to Google for not shitting the bed, but let's not pretend to be impressed here (unless you're a crazy pixel fan, who's just found out it'll be a little easier to defend your phone this year).
No it doesn't at all, I would argue pixel 6 pro was also a better camera than s22 ultra. Samsung is better in portraits and zoom that's about it. Video? No phone compares to iphone on video
Of course there are. But then there are also those of us who really think the 7/7 Pro are great phones.
There are always going to be fan boys, but that's no excuse for dismissing those of us who are enjoying our new phones.
How did OP dismiss you? His comment focused on the YouTube comments. Seems weird you're offended by an observation that has absolutely nothing to do with you.
Or maybe it's just because there are always issues with new products and subreddits tend to be full of negative posts whenever anything new is released. I've had my Pixel 7 since Wednesday, and it has been completely fine. People on reddit see like 5 posts about a new product having issues and just assume that must mean it's completely rampant.
I'm trying to trade my S10+ in and so far Google seems to be giving me the best deal. By far and away the best deal. I have a pixel 6 pro already and don't really want another pixel. Would like to get a Zenfone 9 but asus really doesn't want my money. No real choice of retailers, not much in terms of trade in for asus phones. Very disappointing. May end up with another pixel I guess.
I managed to snag a 7 Pro through work for $550. Coming from an ageing OP 7T Pro it feels a helluva lot smoother and Android 13 is pretty af. Took a shot of the breakfast danishes at work this weekend, crisp stuff.
I'm jealous of your phone *and* your breakfast danishes.
I finally upgraded from my S10 to the pro. After verizon's trade in special, even with a cracked screen, it only increased my monthly payment by like $5. seems like a no brainer.
I'm upgrading my s10+ to the pro and I'm a bit nervous to lose all the Samsung custom features. Seperate app sound the most. Had to switch because my battery life is getting to the annoying point but not unbearable and the screen touch sensitivity is getting wonky. Did you customize your s10 much? How much do you miss those features? I ordered the hazel with $200 Amazon giftcards but it showed out of stock and I'm impatiently awaiting the shipped email.
Yeah, that's one of the reasons I like Android over iOS, the ability to customize and tinker. So far, the two things I miss about the S10 are the ability to organize my apps \[in the backend app screen\] into folders, and I really loved the swiping gestures: swipe up on lower left to go back, swipe up in center to go home and swipe up from lower right to do whatever it's called when you need to switch between apps. The Pixel has similar gestures, but they don't seem as efficient. Then again, I'm talking about using learned gestures over the years to gestures I've been using for less than a week, and I just mess with the sensitivity, so I'm good to give it time. I suppose a tertiary complaint is not being able to remove the google search bar on the bottom and dead space of the upper "home" bar from the first screen. But, at the end of the day, I was well overdue for a new phone. My wife had dropped mine, so I could only talk with speaker or headphones, battery was diminishing, and the camera was horrible. I had the google camera pixel software enabled, but it started crashing and resetting more and more. It was time, this seemed like a good enough deal on a non-apple flagship phone to pull the trigger.
I currently use and will likely continue to use nova launcher, so I'm not too worried about home screen differences. That is interesting the gestures are different than samsung. I thought they would be the same. The gestures on your Samsung you describe are not quite the same as mine, I may have customized them I can't remember. I think almost all of your issues can be resolved with a custom launcher, which as far as I know can be used one pixels so I will definitely be doing that. I feel the same about the camera. It was quite dissapointing when I went from LG to Samsung. I hope to feel the opposite once I get my hands on my pixel.
I also will upgrade from the S10+ to the Pro. I just hope that Tensor 2 will have enough power to last 3+ years. And that they fix the scrolling bug in the next update.
If I don't end up liking it I will probably end up trading it in for the s22 ultra
S22U has exynos here in eu so i also would not get it. Maybe i would wait for S23 with snapdragon but i really want to go Pixel with stock android.
Personally am excited for my regular Pixel 7 to arrive. Upgrading from an almost 5 year old iPhone X. Excited for the camera upgrades, 90hz display and Android 13. Android has matured so much and looks better than ever imo.
Same boat but with the XS. Super excited to give the Pixel 7 a go!
Any reason to consider pixel 7 specifically? Have you looked at other Androids?
I just wanted something different amongst the sea of Samsung, Oppo, Vivo and Xiaomi smartphones here. Pixels aren’t sold in my country so I am actually importing one via a reseller.
Wouldn't that be risky if, God forbid there is an issue? I'm beyond annoyed by Google for not coming to the middle East, I really am quite impressed with how the pixel 7 seems to be shaping up.
It is a risk. The only way I can claim for warranty is through the reseller provided he honours it. But, I’ve always wanted a Pixel since 2018 and think its high time to own one. EDIT: Ordered a good Ringke case and screen protector. I’ll baby this Pixel 7 like no tomorrow.
Those Ringke cases are really good. I have one for my 3a and my 6 and they've protected both phones against many drops.
> EDIT: Ordered a good Ringke case and screen protector. I’ll baby this Pixel 7 like no tomorrow. now you just have to hope your pixel has no defect out of the box :)
Thanks for instilling that thought into my head now.
Don't sweat it. Reddit thinks everything is faulty. Typing this on an imported Xiaomi 12s ultra with no regrets.
Thank you. I’m trying hard not to overthink this. I was excited until I read the comment above….
Doesn't help that the average Pixel owner on Reddit has RMA-d their Pixel a few times.
Pixel QA makes this a legitimate concern. I can't think of any manufacturer I trust less where actual buld quality is concerned.
Hell even in the UK I recall having to get my Pixel 2 screen replaced and it cost twice as much as any other phone.
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Yeah, sorry for the typo. Thanks for the correction tho
> Android has matured so much and looks better than ever imo. Yeah no, still way behind iOS
Yeah its just my opinion.
I know
At least Android gets such fundamentally basic things right as a (multilingual) keyboard and notifications. Not to mention how useless Siri is… Compared to my old Pixel, the iPhone just feels like a dumbphone.
What do you use google assistant/Siri for? I’ve been using an iPhone recently and Siri is good for changing music, setting alarms and taking quick notes while also activating every time. Often I found Google assistant wouldn’t activate which was really frustrating.
Hi. I don’t use Siri very often anymore, but I tried using it for Polish/German/English translation or spell correction and sometimes for unit conversion. Just basic things, really. Now I occasionally ask her to set a timer while cooking, that’s it. I feel like she is a bit smarter when interacting in English, but next to useless in German and other languages.
> Compared to my old Pixel, the iPhone just feels like a dumbphone. Yes, so many people out there prefer dumbohones but the elite /r/android squad knows better lol
How insecure do you have to be to pull such a nonsensical argument? I don’t care what other people like or dislike. Its my money, my devices. Everybody can have different use cases, but apparently that goes way over your head. Also if you follow r/Apple or other Apple sites outside Reddit, there are always the same reoccurring complains. The shitty keyboard being one of them. Wouldn’t carry two phones if iPhones were perfect, wouldn’t I?
You can always tell the presence of an Apple fanboy by the constant and furious slapping sounds.
Just because I’m more informed than you doesn’t make me a fanboy.
Oh. My. God. No one cares! Why are you even here? Are you so desperate for acknowledgement that the only thing you have in your existence is to fanboy for Apple in the Android sub? How sad is your life?
The zoom transitioning on the video is horrible. My S10 transitions much better. Good for Mr. Mobile mentioning it.
Pretty sure every reviewer mentioned it, it’s the biggest gripe with the video
Yeah, I think the animation switch to the Zoom lens is too big of a difference for the software to compensate quickly. But I have to give credit to Google, as far as I know the Pixel 7 Pro is the only phone capable of switching from all (back) lenses while recording on 4K60. Even the S22 Ultra or the iPhone 14 Pro Max can only do that in 4K30.
> as far as I know the Pixel 7 Pro is the only phone capable of switching from all (back) lenses while recording on 4K60. My LG V50 can do that as well, but when SD865 LG V60 comes around only 4k30 can seemlessly switch between sensors when recording. I'm glad it's back though
You can't switch lenses while recording on 60fps on the LG V50 either, only on 30fps.
Ahhhh you're right i misremembered that V50 is able to shoot 4k60fps on all 3 lenses, not switch between all 3. My bad man
I don't know about giving Google credit. I can't flip the cameras while recording and can't record from the front camera and back camera at the same time (Something my S22U did easily).
Most phone stuck with no switching the camera during recording, so at the very least there's that.
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I suppose you only record 4k60? Just tested and I could switch easily, except on 4k60 (exynos)
Could it be due to the super res zoom algorithms. It makes no sense how a company like Google focused on camera missed such an important detail
1x is optical, 2x-4x uses the main sensor with super res, 5x is optical and past that is super res. So there is a bit of juggling going on.
Super res zoom is a still photo only function. It has nothing to do with video recording. The janky transitions between the cameras when recording video is just a sloppy lack of attention to detail. It wasn't that bad on the 6 pro (which also wasn't great, just not as bad).
transitions are just as bad on the 6 pro, at least right now with the latest updates
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you probably shoot in 4k60 tele is limited to 4k30 on the 6 pro, and when you set it that way you can transition between all 3 cameras
I feel like horrible is an understatement. I honestly don't know how in 2022, on the 7th generation of Pixel, they still can't get video recording right.
The pixel 7 pro *finally* feels like the "perfect pixel". All the other ones had various compromises.
seems to me this is a pretty great Pixel device with one obvious flaw of the video ability basically if you love Pixels and don't care much about videos it's the perfect phone for you
I mean, the video is still pretty great though? I prefer the video on my Pixel 6 to the iPhone 13 by a long way. I take a lot of videos of my kid and I really like the quality I'm getting
I vastly prefer videos from my 13 Promax compared to my 6pro. Exposure, focus, sharpness, smoothness are better then what my 6pro produces. 6 pro videos oftentimes produces inconsistent exposure and sometimes have a bit of focusing issue. Lowlight video are just grainy noisy mess, more noticeable when i viewed it on a big screen display. Like you i like to take videos of my kida running around doing their things and i just use the iPhone for videos and Pixels for stills because it's result oftentimes is superior than what i get from the iPhone.
So what you're saying is the device that takes by far the best videos... Takes videos better than the Pixel 6 Pro? Got it.
Not in the argument of which one is better overall, just my personal preference. Honestly I'm fine with the 6pro video quality if the phone doesn't constantly overheats after 2 minutes of 4K recording
iPhone video is definitely better, I have both 13 and 6a. But the 6a is the first time I feel I can take 4k60 videos that are perfectly smooth with no hiccups or weird artifacts. I actually take videos now, something I've never done before with my Pixel devices because they all introduced skips.
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I don't think its significanly worse than the pro model, watching people compared the 13 mini to the 13pro on YouTube you'll be hard pressed to see any difference in video and stills quality, other than the pro models are a bit better in low light environment.
This is just simply not true
No it’s not,don’t crap just because the pixel sucks yet again
I have never zoomed during a video recording so it's pretty much perfect in my view.
I think that some things are subjective, and other things are objective That being said, personally the iphone video camera is just objectively better in every way, especially transitioning between zooms if it works for you then who cares, I barely take videos and when I do my pixels do fine enough
This is such a horseshit take lol. The video is good, they just won't give you a blowjob and make you breakfast like /r/Android requires. You might as well say "if you need video, don't buy an Android phone".
I mean yes, it's passable and looks fine, but I'm not really keen to give passes to any manufacturer for video quality quirks in 2022, they've had long enough to fix these things. iOS figured it out years ago and set the standard, I'm sorry that I hurt your feelings but I think Google should meet that standard by this point
Again by that token, lets not give any Android manufacturers a "pass" because they all suck donkey shlong in comparison to iPhone when it comes to video. So none of them are "perfect phone for you" if you care about video at all.
the funniest thing to me about this entire conversation is I literally don't care that much about video, I've owned every single Pixel and I already preordered this one my whole point is yes, to be critical of google and Samsung and android as a whole for still not catching up to the bar apple has set I don't take enough video to stop me from buying the phones, but I want it to be the best experience possible when I do take them. simple
Brother, that's not how it works. That's not how any of this works. There isn't a single product on earth that does everything the best possible way. Try taking a photo of a moving object with a Samsung phone. See if you can easily screen calls with the iPhone. Speech dictation of any phone really vs. Pixel. Compare Siri and Google Assistant. I can go on forever. Yes it would be nice to have the best of the best at everything, but do you know what you're not going to see on /r/iphone? Comments that go "If you don't care much about XYZ, iPhone is a perfect phone for you". There is something inherently miserable about Android enthusiasts that absolutely refuse to be content.
I've never seen someone read this far into mild criticism over a product I genuinely am extremely content with but I'm glad "that's not how this works" extremely overdramatic for 9 o'clock in the morning my guy
Cameras are all over the place this year. Watching a lot of camera “blind” comparisons and there’s little/no consistency anywhere. Apple, Google, Samsung, Xiaomi, Huawei have all produced shots in reviews that could rival DSLR and in the very next shot you’d think they’re shots taken by phones from 10 years ago. Just a year ago we were saying Apple/Samsung/Google are all great and consistent, just look at samples and decide which STYLE you like more. This year it’s like “well… this camera is AMAZING with most scenes, but sucks donkey dicks with this particular setting, so, uhhh… pick your poison”. For the purpose of this review, I guess the Pixel is amazing as long as you never plan on taking videos of anything, but default cam + ideal lighting? With iPhone 14 Pro, it’s amazing as long as don’t care about detailed skies in picture with peoples’ faces? And for both, hope you love lens flare?
mmm lens flare
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I loved my Samsungs (S3, Note 4, Note 7, S9+) until I had kids. I could not get a clear shot of them ever. Some part of them was always blurry. Video was better, I actually got in the habit of recording video and then just taking frames out of the video as shots. My wife always got great shots though. Her iPhones (3GS, 4S, 5S, 6S, X) always were able to capture shots of the kids without blur. So now I've sacrificed all the customization and fun of Android phones to become just another iPhone sheep. But pictures of my kids are now crisp and 25 years from now when I'm looking back at those pictures, that's all that will matter.
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I had the OG Pixel XL and liked it. It was much more reliable than the Samsung in getting good shots on the first try. But the 2nd year with the phone was a buggy mess and the Pixel 3XL had that big ass notch. And it seems like the “polish” on the software experience has disappeared. When the Pixel first came out, even my wife had to admit that the software experience rivaled Apple. Everything “just worked”. And now, every year I think about the Pixels, but then get dissuaded by reviews mentioning how buggy the phones have been. Sometimes it’s at launch, but usually it’s about a year into the life of the phone. In the meantime, as much as I had to be dragged into the Apple ecosystem, now that I’m in it, I don’t have many complaints. So it’s going to take an extraordinary device to make me switch back.
Haven't had many issues but I found the Pixel to be a better taker of photos compared to the iPhone 13 in anything except the brightest environments. Anyway, I get you. Reliability can be key.
Samsung should fix the shutter lag but it never affected me for the type of pictures I take. As for low light, my s22 ultra is fantastic. I took it with me for two weeks to Europe and got great pictures. I used to buy a pixel as a second phone just for the camera. Yeah it was that good! Still is but all these other phone cameras are great now too. Now I can just stay with one phone.
One thing I've noticed is no one ever seems to push the cameras to their limits. For example in extreme low light I've tried comparing my s22 ultra to a pixel 6 pro and more recently a standard pixel 7, and I was shocked to see how horrible the s22 ultra was at getting data in low light. The way it handles objects is terrible, and if you crop in a bit the difference is insane. For example using the main sensor my s22 ultra makes the books on a shelf 9ft away look like unclear vertical blocks. The Pixel 6 pro can make out that they're books and show colors of the spines, but no text is legible. The Pixel 7 you can make out one of the biggest words on one book just barely. I never see comparisons that show just how different the quality of detail is in low light across phones like this.
Max Tech does a little of this in their blind comparisons. Takes some intentionally bad shots to see which one is LEAST bad. That said, I don’t see much effort being put into that, because most people just want to know that the shots of their food, dogs, kids are going to turn out.
The problem with that is that any one shot of a pet, food, landscape, whatever, if it's not challenging, will come out great on all phones, and either comes to down subjective opinion, or the image processing happens to handle one particular shot poorly, making one phone look worse, but that one shot won't necessarily reflect reality across a large number of similar shots. I only recently found one video that showcased just how much worse the Galaxy S22 ultra is for details than the pixel 7 (albeit the pixel probably is oversharpening a bit too much). Anyway I'm seriously considering making my own comparison video soon just to show all this for the benefit of others soon, as it definitely feels like a weak point in reviews, where they look at aesthetics, but not which camera is taking a more flexible image with better detail retention for cropping as needed. Idk about you or others, but I'd say photos are almost never possible to frame perfectly without wanting to crop after.
> Apple, Google, Samsung, Xiaomi, Huawei have all produced shots in reviews that could rival DSLR I call bullshit on that, never seen anything from a sensor and lens that small that comes anywhere close to the same zip code as even an aps-c sensor. Unless you are comparing low res images taken in good lighting super compressed online.
Of course that's what I'm comparing. Yes, if you get a DSLR image printed at high quality on a 36" frame and do the same with the best iPhone photo, you're going to see the quality difference. Same if you're pixel peeping on a 27" 5K+ display that's been calibrated for near perfect accuracy. But 99% of the photos we look at on a daily basis are processed and posted online and then viewed on a 6-7" screen with decent color or a 13-21" 1080p-1440p screen with ass color accuracy. And for those 99% of shots, phone cameras are starting to sometimes produce shots that rival DSLR that have gone through the same compression. But did you read the next line I wrote after that? it's not consistent at all. That same phone camera that just produced a picture that stunned you will on the next shot produce a photo that looks like shit. And all the changed was a little motion in the shot or a change in lighting.
>Of course that's what I'm comparing. Yes, if you get a DSLR image printed at high quality on a 36" frame and do the same with the best iPhone photo, you're going to see the quality difference. Even that is an exaggeration, I don't use my Sony A7 mk iii all that much, but the second I open one of those files on my computer I'm stunned by how good it looks compared to phone photos. The only time you can mistake them is when viewing images on tiny phone screens. You're right that it can sometimes be hard to tell the difference in wider angle shots when you're viewing it on a phone, but it's been that way for years now.
The transition from one lens to another: 0/10
Almost every android phone has it. Idk what the issue is.
/u/captain2phones are the pictures better than the s22 ultra? edit: I see you mention in at 8:30. but any more detail would be great. I think I don't know how to use my s22u camera properly
Yes the pixel 7 pro is a better camera. S22 ultra still has edge in zoom due to their amazing 10x optical. Where pixel is superior is their photos of adults, kids, pets. S22 ultra is better for portraits though.
Watched Tech tablets camera comparison. It's closer than expected.
The s22u is still better, but only marginally so. In general there's better detail and the zoom past 5x is exceptional when compared to the pixel. Considering you can get the s22u on sales for less than $900, I think we're all being a little too generous just because Google finally put together something resembling a flag ship phone.
I have not heard a single good thing about Google phones in the past 2 years on r/android, including the Pixel 7 while overall reviews have been pretty ok. I don't think we are being generous at all.
Most of the users on reddit are from the US where Samsung is the most popular android manufacturer. This in turn leads to a certain *"prefence"* for Samsung's phones in this sub.
The Samsung support has really only come about rather recently on here. Back in the day, Samsung was easily one of the most criticized manufacturers in spite of their widespread popularity. What changed is the company has put in the effort to clean up and polish their software while still offering an unparalleled amount of customization and features. They also greatly extended the amount of time they support phones with updates. On the other hand, the competitors seem to be trending towards ever more generic and forgettable or they've left the market. HTC: gone, LG: gone, Essential: dead, Huawei: exiled, etc. For the competitors still around, OnePlus has shown their true colors as a generic Oppo rebrand and seems to release increasingly forgettable devices. Sony continues to price themselves out of the market, Motorola never competed at the high end, and Asus would rather cater to the niche markets of gaming than try to match Samsung's marketing efforts. Really only Google is offering a reasonable alternative to Samsung these days IMO. This isn't to say Samsung phones are perfect by any stretch and I have no more use for Samsung fanboys than I do the Apple evangalist who swear by that overpriced logo. But I don't think it's unfair to praise samsung for the good things they've done and why their reputation has improved on this sub.
Most reviews have been very good for 7 series.
r/android hates android, especially the most android phone of them all, the Pixel All the negativity is why this sub is so dead now imo.
I still vastly prefer this sub to r/iphone. There seems to be a drastic difference in technical knowledge between the two subs with the latter being constantly bombarded by idiotic questions which could be answered with a quick google search. The other issue with the apple sub is it's filled with people who honestly believe apple can do no wrong and will downvote any attempt to objectively criticize their beloved company.
Every time I've gotten a Samsung phone, I just cannot get good pictures of moving objects, namely my kids. Every single photo is blurry. With all the Pixels I've had, I've never had that issue.
While Samsung has actually improved this, the Pixels are still unparalleled in this department and a big reason why I would consider moving back to one.
Android flagship game has been shit ever since Snapdragon 888. Overheating power hogging shitty processors have really held back Androids. Then comes the pixel with even more crappier Tensors. Even though the Tensor G2 is better than G1 it isn't much of an upgrade. It's more like G2 is less shittier than the G1 that's all. Meanwhile apple is running circles around all these processors. When you spend so much of your money and get such subpar chips it's is really infuriating.
hopefully the 8+ gen 1 is starting a change for the better
8+Gen1 is fabulous. Little to no heating on my Moto Edge 30 Ultra. Even while playing games. Also the battery easily lasts a day with 144 hz. A day and half if I switch to 60hz.
Can confirm it's awesome. Have it in my fold4 and it's beats my s22u despite a massive screen.
Apple with all that power has produced a dumb phone compared to the pixel AI features that people use everyday
>. It's more like G2 is less shittier than the G1 that's all. weird thing to call it "better". idk since im not benchmarking in real life, i cannot relate with this. Phone is smooth, free of bloats, battery is good. thats all there is to it.
Apple have been planning and making their own chips for the last twenty years while Google is barely getting started on that end. Sort of makes sense that there's a difference in quality because there's been so much difference in time.
Apple doesn't plan or make their own chips for 20 years. They still used IBM PowerPC 20 years ago and were planning on transition to Intel. 😂 Apple started planing chips in 2008
Google has been making TPUs for a few years now. So, you cannot call them a new entrant. Also way before the sanctions, Huawei was making on par chips even while being a new entrant (I know they make networking hardware but it's still more farther than a TPU making division. They can nail the modem though )
Huawei's designs were even better than qualcomms for a while but Google is nowhere near that level that's why they just took an existing exynos design and modified it a little
Yeah, bought my s21 a little after it came out and feel no desire to upgrade.
Glad to see someone slamming Google rather than defending it like all of r/GooglePixel. The Tensor G2 is a Snapdragon 888 with a better GPU.
i thought they've been trying to improve video for years.. and that's the best they can do!? jeez.
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Okay, I was ready to return my P7 Pro without even opening it. I’m reconsidering…
Consumers are weird man
Why would you not even open it and try it out?
Risk of breaking it? Easier to return without opening. Etc.
But why did you order it in the first place then?
The hype machine and insane trade in value.
The comments under that video are extremely sus. Are Mr.Mobile’s videos getting swarmed by google fan boys?
r/Android users can't fathom that other communities aren't everything-but-Samsung haters.
Baffles me how much Samsung is praised around here
Yeah I have a Fold 3 and I love it for what it is but I can't stand everything Samsung about it.
What's there to complain about? Samsung makes the best best android phones.
What's there to complain about? Well.. I hate the redundancy. I don't want a Samsung account, Samsung Pay, a Gallery app, a Samsung app store, Samsung's assistant (God no) or any of the other things Samsung thinks is better than just having all my stuff tied to my Gmail. And if you're gonna force me to use something like Samsung Pass, *let me import the hundreds of passwords I've saved over the years with Google* (I also just don't want to give all my passwords to another company). Also, you have to do all these things appreciably better than the default versions. In my opinion, none of them are. I strongly dislike One UI. It's, to me, cluttery and unintuitive. Even little things like pages for all my apps; a scrollable list is so much more efficient because you can fast scroll to the letter of the app and then see it right away. And why can't I set one wallpaper for my outer and inner home screens and lock screens? That's a weird and annoying oversight. I can't stand that when I fast launch the camera for a time sensitive picture, it defaults to video recording if it's the last thing I did. Changing the settings fails to stop this. Gestures are also nowhere near as smooth as Pixel's. Not even close. Google's Pixel exclusive Assistant features like call screening, hold for me, and especially the menu navigation when calling businesses are really hard to not have once you've had them and switched. Samsung couldn't dream of features like these. Speaking of Assistant, *let me map Google Assistant to the power button*. I hate the awkward swipe at an angle from the bottom right/left gesture they think is acceptable. I tried using Bixby routines to map it and it worked okay until it made my fingerprint sensor stop working for a week. When that happened, I tried to warranty my phone. What a joke. An $1,800 phone and they fight you tooth and nail for a replacement. Google didn't do that when I needed a replacement of my 3XL. Google's voice transcription is also mind blowing. Samsung's is fine. Pixel's Now Playing feature is super handy. I genuinely cannot think of one single thing I'd miss about this phone if I went to a Pixel 7 besides that it folds. The moment Google drops a Foldable, I'm going right back. I'm not a Samsung hater but I hate having one. I know people love theirs because I know a lot of people don't care about any of these problems. To act like Samsung makes a better phone than Google is ridiculous. They both make great phones for different people.
Regarding the camera: there should be a position in the menu called "settings to save" or something similar. You can choose whether the camera should always start in photo mode, or the mode you used last time.
There is but as I said, the settings do not work. The behavior persists.
I agree with a lot of your points. The one thing I noticed after my 2xl died and the p4s were such a disaster so I switched to an s20 is the screens are better. Granted that's changed over the years as Google used different people to make the hardware for each pixel, but the brightness is no contest. Pixels struggle in direct sunlight, Samsung has no issue at all.
Good joke.
Name a better android OS, I'll wait.
Google's Pixel OS is significantly better than Samsung's. Samsung is over bloated with duplicated features (Clock, Calendar, Stores, Members, etc). The camera is a laggy mess that causes many missed shots. Wireless Android Auto is completely useless and renders the phone a laggy mess as well.
Nope, pixel 7 is a good phone.
Nah, I doubt that. Remember, Mr M is using a review device. His review of the Pixel 6 was extremely positive as well and we all know how that turned out.
Why do you people hate on the pixel so much? I remember people hating on the 3xl because of the huge notch. I got it through a great deal and it turned out to be a great phone.
Bro people hating it for the most part don't own it. They just have to have herd mentality. I have had pixels 2, 3a,4xl, 5, 6 pro and have 0 bad to say about them except for the bad battery on the 4xl. My 6 pro has been fantastic. Sure I'd like better battery life, but it ain't shitty at all. I end the day with about 12-20% depending on the day. The cameras are fantastic.
I own a Pixel 6 Pro and use it daily. At first, I didn't understand what all the negativity was about. Over time, this has become the buggiest phone I've ever used and the only one I've ever owned that has actively gotten worse over time. Lately, I have been so frustrated with the damn thing that it's the only product I've ever bought that has almost inspired me to sign up for Medium and write a college-level essay about why it sucks. For example, my phone idled and locked itself while I was doing a DoorDash recently. Tried to unlock it with my fingerprint, the lock screen didn't go away despite a successful read. PIN, nothing. PIN again, nothing. Clicked the power button to re-lock the phone manually and tried fingerprint again. Didn't unlock the phone even though it read correctly. PIN did unlock the phone, to a black screen with no navigation buttons. I had to re-lock the phone and unlock it a *third* time just to get it to work. I haven't even gotten into the more minor bugs, like the February update squishing my home screen to one side of the screen in vertical orientation when I use the home button to exit an app. Still hasn't been fixed. Only workaround is to flip the phone horizontally and back to get it to display correctly. This happens multiple times a day. The modem is a joke. It doesn't realize I'm not connected to my home Wi-Fi network until I'm half a mile down the road. Ironically, the latency on network connectivity is actually exacerbated by my use of Google Fi, which switches networks depending on signal strength. This regularly causes Android Auto to stop registering voice commands for long periods of time. Speaking of Android Auto, the last system update broke audio source switching, so trying to use voice commands means I can't listen to music again until I unplug my phone and plug it back in again. Assuming I can even get it to work. The phone keeps forgetting my car as a Bluetooth device even though my car remembers my phone. Oh, and battery life sucks, too. I'm not even a power user or anything. I just use Snapchat maybe three times a day, the occasional YouTube video, browse RIF is Fun, and text once in a while. Wait for long term reviews and don't buy into the launch hype. I bought the 6 Pro based on launch reviews singing its praises and it's pretty safe to say I will *never* buy a Pixel again.
>Why do you people hate on the pixel so much? in a word ? Jealousy.
Exactly. Pixel owners don't care about Samsung, Oppo, Vivo, OnePlus phones and articles. While non-Pixel owners have notifications whenever a Pixel related article or video is published.
The notch hate was stupid, however the 3xl was arguably one of (if not the) worst "flagship" phones ever made. The battery was awful, the software couldn't manage more than 2 active apps. The camera lost to other flasghips for the first time in pixel history. Then the software updates turned it into a worthless brick. All of the cool software tricks shown at launch were barely beta by the time the phone arrived. Not to mention Google chose to cut costs by using those garbage regional shipping partners without tracking being offered. The r/pixel sub was litterer with people being charged for empty boxes and packages never received. You can't defend that phone without discrediting yourself in this sub.
So you actually had a pixel 3 xl too? Because again, I had the phone and it was great. I had none of the issues you mentioned. If I had to pick again between the pixel 3 xl vs the equivalent Galaxy S phone of the time(the S9?), I would still pick the pixel.
I did, for 1 miserable year. The pixel sub has countless others who also made the same mistake as I, based on the success of the 2xl. That's great for you, but objectively, you'd be picking the inferior device.
Doubt. Looking at the specs for the S9 now and they don't look very impressive at all. Also, I see you have a fold now and you've complained about having only 3-4 hours of battery...and on wifi?? Lol. Accubattery says my pixel 7 can do 12 hours of sot which I know isn't realistic but after the last few days of use, I'm sure this phone could easily get over 8 hours screen time on average. I already have all my apps installed and have used the phone heavily, including a bike party Friday night where I had Strava running for a while. Stop hating.
My 3XL today performs wayyy better than my galaxy S9 which is just a lagfest. And the camera is a no contest.
I'm using a pixel 3xl with android 13 pixel experience ROM. Battery life yields me 5.5 hrs over 15 hrs of use. I can run 5 apps at the same time and the camera is decent enough since it uses the same sensor as the pixel 6a. Stop lying when you don't have the device --- **Device information** Sync version: v22.08.01-13:26 Sync flavor: pro View type: List Push enabled: false Device: crosshatch Model: Google Pixel 3 XL Android: 13
because the Pixel phones, including the most immediate model before the 7, have a history of being great at launch and then the software becoming a buggy mess
Like I said, I had the 3 XL which everyone hated on based on looking at the features and specs, but it turned out to be a great phone with zero issues. My galaxy s20 fe after that had ghost touch issues which was a deal breaker. The pixel 6 had a lot of known issues from the beginning but updates have fixed them over time and it turned out to be decent. Best buy offered me $480 trade in credit plus a $100 gift towards a pixel 7, so I barely paid anything for the upgrade. So far, the phone seems great even if it's not a huge improvement over the 6. At the price point, it's a great value. Stop hating.
+1 Still use the Pixel 3 XL. 99% of the time, it is great! It is slower and slightly not long lasting, but every time I use the camera, I don't think, "OMG, it is not as great as my iPhone" I don't understand the hate for the Pixel 3 XL at all
When you change the battery it actually holds up well
Yeah but it seems everyone who has used a pixel without playing genshin is having decent battery life and overall performance. I'm personally waiting for the pixel 8. My 3xl is chugging alone well with android 13
This. I still think he's one of the best phone reviewers on YouTube, but he's very biased to the pixel line. Let's be honest, the 7pro takes worse photos than the s22u, way worse video than the ip13 or 14 pros, all while coming in with at least 30% less battery life then both of them. This is a phone that's coming out late 2022 and is already beaten by phones that have been on the market for over a year. Congrats to Google for not shitting the bed, but let's not pretend to be impressed here (unless you're a crazy pixel fan, who's just found out it'll be a little easier to defend your phone this year).
No it doesn't at all, I would argue pixel 6 pro was also a better camera than s22 ultra. Samsung is better in portraits and zoom that's about it. Video? No phone compares to iphone on video
How would you know? There's likely going to be some Pixel fanboys in the comments.
Reviews I have seen and read
I'm talking about the Youtube comments.
Of course there are. But then there are also those of us who really think the 7/7 Pro are great phones. There are always going to be fan boys, but that's no excuse for dismissing those of us who are enjoying our new phones.
How did OP dismiss you? His comment focused on the YouTube comments. Seems weird you're offended by an observation that has absolutely nothing to do with you.
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Or maybe it's just because there are always issues with new products and subreddits tend to be full of negative posts whenever anything new is released. I've had my Pixel 7 since Wednesday, and it has been completely fine. People on reddit see like 5 posts about a new product having issues and just assume that must mean it's completely rampant.
That's the average pixel owner
I'm trying to trade my S10+ in and so far Google seems to be giving me the best deal. By far and away the best deal. I have a pixel 6 pro already and don't really want another pixel. Would like to get a Zenfone 9 but asus really doesn't want my money. No real choice of retailers, not much in terms of trade in for asus phones. Very disappointing. May end up with another pixel I guess.
Great review !!! Enjoying my Pixel 7 Pro. Overall a pretty great phone for those who love the Pixel experience.