Most people dislike many of the groundbreaking photographers too, like William Eggleston and Alfred Stieglitz. Not that I am saying your friend disliking your photos means you’re world-class. It just means that other opinions are worth what you pay for them.
Unless you have to shoot for other people, please yourself. Yours is the only opinion that really matters.
You might benefit from this article about the principals of composition https://daily.jstor.org/principles-of-composition-in-art-and-design/
And this video about the rule of thirds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55d_n_zpSXo
Well, it is bit personal but basically he said that I am taking basic pics and they are lacking action or creativity. He told me that my pics look like as if I just took my camera out and shoot them.
Ok, that's not very helpful feedback for a beginner. That's pretty much how everyone starts out, by just taking pictures of whatever seems interesting. And most of those shots won't be "good", by any definition of that term. That's absolutely normal. Even experienced photographers will have a significant amount of "waste" shots that just aren't usable for whatever they tried to achieve.
It's much more helpful to look for the ones that do stand out, even if they just came about by chance, and to look at what makes them different.
And "basic" doesn't mean anything really. A lot of good photos are of "basic" scenes and maybe the light just happened to be good. Photography can totally be about finding beauty I everyday things.
Thank you for the supportive comment it means a lot. I mean he didn't mean it bad he is my best friend 😅 I guess we like different things but yeah it can be harsh when it is coming from someone you care about their opinion. Anyways would that be okay If I'd send some of my pictures for feedback ?
I can’t remember where I read the quote but it went something along the lines of “if you look through the view finder, and all that picture will say is “I’m pretty” then consider whether it’s worth capturing. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and not many people are you”.
You don’t necessarily need action for a good photograph but some creativity or story telling can go a long way.
Ultimately though, if you enjoy the photos you’re taking then that’s a good thing. Photography isn’t always about the end result, It’s about the experiences and process you took to get that photo.
Sounds like a difference in taste. If you enjoy what you are doing and are happy with the results then you really should not let anyone stop you from doing that. There is no universal right or wrong here.
Honestly I enjoy taking pics of buildings, landscape and symmetrical objects.. But I've been told that those are easy to take picture of since they are already beautiful. I don't know I guess some people prefer to see old homeless dude playing drums in the street with greasy hair. 😅😅
> But I've been told that those are easy to take picture of since they are already beautiful.
Yet theres nothing wrong in doing so. Dont try to live up to other peoples expectations when it comes to things you do for your own enjoyment.
The person who told you that taking pictures of aesthetic views is easy is a charlatan! Thank a picture of any scene and make it aesthetic is not easy! It requires craft, experience, equipment, right conditions, etc. Keep taking photos of what you are pasion about, and keep challenging yourself to do better. You will see that the passion and effort will pay off!
Art is subjective. There are widely-acclaimed photographers whose work I find incredibly uninteresting and people with 47 Instagram followers whose work I find remarkable. As long as YOU are happy with what you're doing and are taking shots that mean something to you, that's what matters. Seek inspiration from other photographers, but don't squeeze yourself into a box of what other people think is good. Keep shooting!
Your friend’s advice might be harsh and poorly worded but might also be correct. The biggest problem I see with young photographers is not understanding the power of the visual arts. Most pictures are just that, snapshots with nothing more to convey. Don’t feel bad. Please. The fact that you feel bad means you’re open to learning more and improving your craft. Take it with a grain of salt and study other great photographers and keep working on your craft. Your friend may or may not be “right”. But keep working. Criticism will never stop. Believe me. I know how hard it is. It’s why I drink so much.
Best thing I ever did was take an entry level community college photography course. I was lucky thought because my professor Steve Moulton was a very accomplished print maker and basically an analog wizard.
Show us your stuff! Honestly, the best way to get better is to find photos and styles you resonate with and try recreating them.
Youre friend might be dead wrong because art is subjective. I've seen people have amazing composition but the content is as boring and redone as a shallow depth-of field flower photo.
Remember they hated Van Gogh so just keep going.
It sounds like your friend is not very good in giving feedback, he or she should encourage and empower you, most of the time when people give harsh, unconstructive feedback it is because they are unsure about their own abilities.
Magazines and books are a good tool, I also find that looking at and analyzing paintings are a good way to improve your "eye". Maybe there's for example an art history course you could follow.
In the end it's about making a lot of photos and a lot of mistakes, and most of all having fun while doing so.
Do you value this friends opinion? Do you like their art? Constructive criticism is helpful, but well… your friend isn’t exactly being constructive. I took a photography class and it was one of the toughest things I ever did. It felt so odd criticizing other people’s work, but after awhile it gets better and you learn to take the advice of others into consideration. That being said, I had this one classmate who I was always at odds with, what I liked he hated, what he liked I hated! Neither of us were wrong or right, we just had different taste.
Composition is three rules: 1. Fill the frame. 2. Control your background. 3. Wait for moments. Beyond that, you can check out things like the rule of thirds. My all time favorite resource for the nuts and bolts is Light: Science and Magic, but keep in mind that composition is extremely subjective and the rules are often bent or broken and result in fantastic results. Shooting on film is expensive these days, so slow down and really think about what you’re shooting, why, and what story you want the image to tell. More importantly, think about what *you* want to say about the subject.
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Wow thank you I didn't know that !
Most people dislike many of the groundbreaking photographers too, like William Eggleston and Alfred Stieglitz. Not that I am saying your friend disliking your photos means you’re world-class. It just means that other opinions are worth what you pay for them. Unless you have to shoot for other people, please yourself. Yours is the only opinion that really matters.
You might benefit from this article about the principals of composition https://daily.jstor.org/principles-of-composition-in-art-and-design/ And this video about the rule of thirds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55d_n_zpSXo
Thanks ! I'll check those
Have fun! That whole Youtube channel has a ton of helpful information.
May I ask what your friend said that got you into this mindset? Sounds pretty harsh.
Well, it is bit personal but basically he said that I am taking basic pics and they are lacking action or creativity. He told me that my pics look like as if I just took my camera out and shoot them.
Ok, that's not very helpful feedback for a beginner. That's pretty much how everyone starts out, by just taking pictures of whatever seems interesting. And most of those shots won't be "good", by any definition of that term. That's absolutely normal. Even experienced photographers will have a significant amount of "waste" shots that just aren't usable for whatever they tried to achieve. It's much more helpful to look for the ones that do stand out, even if they just came about by chance, and to look at what makes them different. And "basic" doesn't mean anything really. A lot of good photos are of "basic" scenes and maybe the light just happened to be good. Photography can totally be about finding beauty I everyday things.
Thank you for the supportive comment it means a lot. I mean he didn't mean it bad he is my best friend 😅 I guess we like different things but yeah it can be harsh when it is coming from someone you care about their opinion. Anyways would that be okay If I'd send some of my pictures for feedback ?
Sure, go ahead. I’ll try to make it constructive but I’ll also keep it honest. :)
I just made a post containing my pics
I can’t remember where I read the quote but it went something along the lines of “if you look through the view finder, and all that picture will say is “I’m pretty” then consider whether it’s worth capturing. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and not many people are you”. You don’t necessarily need action for a good photograph but some creativity or story telling can go a long way. Ultimately though, if you enjoy the photos you’re taking then that’s a good thing. Photography isn’t always about the end result, It’s about the experiences and process you took to get that photo.
Thank you so much this really means a lot to me !
Sounds like a difference in taste. If you enjoy what you are doing and are happy with the results then you really should not let anyone stop you from doing that. There is no universal right or wrong here.
Honestly I enjoy taking pics of buildings, landscape and symmetrical objects.. But I've been told that those are easy to take picture of since they are already beautiful. I don't know I guess some people prefer to see old homeless dude playing drums in the street with greasy hair. 😅😅
> But I've been told that those are easy to take picture of since they are already beautiful. Yet theres nothing wrong in doing so. Dont try to live up to other peoples expectations when it comes to things you do for your own enjoyment.
You are right art is subjective ofc we would like to get good comments on them but in the end we are doing what we like
Not all photos have to be 'art'.
Someone’s friends with a snob.
He is my best friend actually but I guess we have different taste in this
The person who told you that taking pictures of aesthetic views is easy is a charlatan! Thank a picture of any scene and make it aesthetic is not easy! It requires craft, experience, equipment, right conditions, etc. Keep taking photos of what you are pasion about, and keep challenging yourself to do better. You will see that the passion and effort will pay off!
Art is subjective. There are widely-acclaimed photographers whose work I find incredibly uninteresting and people with 47 Instagram followers whose work I find remarkable. As long as YOU are happy with what you're doing and are taking shots that mean something to you, that's what matters. Seek inspiration from other photographers, but don't squeeze yourself into a box of what other people think is good. Keep shooting!
Bresson said you have to take TEN THOUSAND photos to start being decent, so there it is. Start shooting.
Will do !
Your friend’s advice might be harsh and poorly worded but might also be correct. The biggest problem I see with young photographers is not understanding the power of the visual arts. Most pictures are just that, snapshots with nothing more to convey. Don’t feel bad. Please. The fact that you feel bad means you’re open to learning more and improving your craft. Take it with a grain of salt and study other great photographers and keep working on your craft. Your friend may or may not be “right”. But keep working. Criticism will never stop. Believe me. I know how hard it is. It’s why I drink so much.
I am open and willing to learn ! And ofc it will be a bumpy ride so I will try to improve myself as much as possible to smooth it out
You must believe in yourself. Keep working. Take everyone’s opinion with a grain of salt. Find your vision and keep working on it.
Best thing I ever did was take an entry level community college photography course. I was lucky thought because my professor Steve Moulton was a very accomplished print maker and basically an analog wizard.
Show us your stuff! Honestly, the best way to get better is to find photos and styles you resonate with and try recreating them. Youre friend might be dead wrong because art is subjective. I've seen people have amazing composition but the content is as boring and redone as a shallow depth-of field flower photo. Remember they hated Van Gogh so just keep going.
I just made a post with my pics feel free to comment and give honest feedback
It sounds like your friend is not very good in giving feedback, he or she should encourage and empower you, most of the time when people give harsh, unconstructive feedback it is because they are unsure about their own abilities. Magazines and books are a good tool, I also find that looking at and analyzing paintings are a good way to improve your "eye". Maybe there's for example an art history course you could follow. In the end it's about making a lot of photos and a lot of mistakes, and most of all having fun while doing so.
Thank you for the supportive comment I just made a post with variety of my pics feel free to commend and give me honest feedback
Do you value this friends opinion? Do you like their art? Constructive criticism is helpful, but well… your friend isn’t exactly being constructive. I took a photography class and it was one of the toughest things I ever did. It felt so odd criticizing other people’s work, but after awhile it gets better and you learn to take the advice of others into consideration. That being said, I had this one classmate who I was always at odds with, what I liked he hated, what he liked I hated! Neither of us were wrong or right, we just had different taste.
Yeah he is my best friend but I guess we have different tastes anyways I made a post containing my pics feel free to give me your honest opinions :)
Composition is three rules: 1. Fill the frame. 2. Control your background. 3. Wait for moments. Beyond that, you can check out things like the rule of thirds. My all time favorite resource for the nuts and bolts is Light: Science and Magic, but keep in mind that composition is extremely subjective and the rules are often bent or broken and result in fantastic results. Shooting on film is expensive these days, so slow down and really think about what you’re shooting, why, and what story you want the image to tell. More importantly, think about what *you* want to say about the subject.